This really shows how slow churchill levels up. I did not expect that he wouldnt hit 20 til like round 111. Also shows how gas he is with buffs and a good map.
Dude, I was wondering yesterday how people get to rounds like 100+ because I was struggling getting past round 62 on the moving castle map, and now this shows up.
dude the amount of mixmaxing you do for these videos is cool asf, I would've never thought of reducing track length just to make the most out of relentless glue stuns 😭
I don't think it is underrated at all, it is one of the more common towers used to beat the 90s, as long as you have a reliable clean up against the ceramic rushes
@@kevin-7091it is underrated. It's not a tower you see on a usual chimps run especially on expert maps because while the extra damage is nice there are usually other preferable options Yes a long time ago this did use to be an insanely good option for CHIMPS but the meta has evolved and it's not the bloon demolisher it used to be.
impressive as hell, im going to be attempting this with double cash and instamonkeys, i really want to test how far u can get in a non map-editor run but with extras and powers, im hoping for wave 200 with the right amount of tier 5s and 4s especially with the collection event otw
This should be the farthest glitchless round, since there was a corvis glitch that let you use the spell that gives you xp for money in deflation, which allowed you to get much father
a few years ago theres a glitch where monkeys that were sold on ice in certain maps gave more money than they costed and you could cheese it that way but its been patched
First thing on my recommended after an ods reduced my lifespan by a couple years doing deflation on covered garden. Wingmonkey is so awful, whenever I leaked it was because the ace was in the other side of the map from the bloons for half the round. I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS POSSIBLE TO LEAK SOME BLOONS ON ROUND 40 AND NOT ROUND 60 BUT THE ACE SOMEHOW MANAGED TO DO THAT! GOTTA LOVE THAT RNG
I absolutely love your videos! Do you think you can try out some other tower defense games? You seem really talented at those, and i think you can break multiple records for the highest waves on TD games!
You can save a little more money by upgrading the discount villages separately (tier 1, tier 1, tier 2, tier 2) rather than (tier 1, tier 2, tier 1, tier 2)
I think you should see how far you can get with only 1 tower from each category on the map at once (farms are allowed) or what paragon (including VTSG with Camo village unless you do bottom path) can get the furthest on degree 1 and 100 (for 100 do max bossted VTSG)
there used to be a glitch where u could earn infinite money in deflation i got to past round 200 (i think it involved selling an artic wind and selling a tower on the water, for some reason this gave u more money than the tower cost)
How far can you get on Ancient Portal while using only the bottom left box when? Thanks for always doing these very hard challenges, many of which I have asked myself whether or not they are doable, I have never been able to do much with them.
Question for you, How do you know for certain that this is the best combo? I'm a reasonably experienced player though I could never do this kind of thing, how do you arrive at the conclusion that this is in fact meta? I'd assume it's just messing around until you find something that's good, but if there is a metheod I'd be interested to know. Keep up the content!
his first video does explain some things. You obviously need a hero as any tower with just 20k is not gonna do much and churchill is the best damage hero. concoction is great for dealing group damage and you need a stalling tower like a glue gunner so that churchill has more time to do damage. the rest is trial and error
I think there’s a process that goes something like this: No.1: figure out the theme of the strat based on limitations eg. Whether to use stall or raw damage, or a mix of the 2. In lategame, a mix is needed due to the bloon variety No.2: if a mix, figure out what proportions are needed. This is split into 2 steps: identifying the cheapest damage option that will work, and finding the most cost-efficient support for it based on needs. Churchill is by far the cheapest damage, the village needs to give camo to other support, Unstable Concoction helps with taking chunks out of RBE-heavy rounds with many FBFBs, ZOMGS and FZOMGS, glue’s stun gives Churchill time to pop DDTs, who’s main threat is their speed, and alch buff is a cost-effective buff on Churchill that greatly boosts DPS No.3: Like you said, trial and error. Maybe identify more DPS or support options, and tinker around with them to see what handles your given issue the best Hope this helps your future runs in this game!
Well basically you start by testing the most difficult rounds in sandbox, usually DDT rounds like 128 and BAD rounds like 119. And try different setups based around different heroes. From that you will find that there is not alot of heroes that can even come close to beating those rounds with only 20k of other towers. So once you find that churchill is best you just need to find the best way to spend the 20k. With a bit of game knowledge your first assumptions will be fairly close to whats optimal, but you still need to test a bunch of different setups and different positions :)
would you do a challenge on how far you can go on Another Brick using only the wall, or would that be too easy for you? You could do it in challenge editor with half cash and 200% moab hp if that makes it more interesting. I’d do it myself but I fricked up my laptop screen and now btd6 won’t display the middle third
I do have a long list of limited space challenges that i would like to try at some point and that is on the list! So at some point i will probably do that! :)
This is actually insane. Though, I have 1 question about the music Why do the lyrics suddenly pop up by 7:20 and then go away a bit later? Genuinely just kinda confused about that. (Absolutely love NEFFEX's songs tho)
Thanks! About the music, all of these songs are supposed to be instrumental versions but one of them actually has a bit of lyrics in it for some reason lol not sure why
No idea, but someone just commented about trying cornfield no harvest deflation which also got me thinking about expert maps. Might try one of these ideas in the future!
My record for deflation mode is round 500, this is when there is a corvus bug that can make you generate money using his abilty when he reaches lvl 20. On that run I can afford VTSG and several paragon, but since his abilty can only generate 800 money per use, this run takes me maybe 40+ hours playing actively since you can't use his abilty using techbot (and also you definitely want to use the abilty when the mana reaches 800 to maximize money generation). On that run I also uses time stop power since even using this bug, money you can generate actually isn't limitless since even using stalling, corvus will keep attacking so the round will eventually ends and his skill definitely doesn't generate a lots of money since it takes really long just to create 800.
Why do I even bother to lie if it totally possible with the bug and strategy I said? Here's the proof, my friend code is LWXFY-TSUMB, you can check it on my player stat what is my highest deflation round
I freaking love this game mode
i don't
thank you for pooping the bloons MackanRules
it would be good if there was a hard mode version or smth
Now do this on Cornfield no harvest
So you don't love cornfield no harvest?
0:36 ISAB would be proud with all the min maxing of the the discount villages going on.
Also unstable coc
@@sinder1230 unstable coc 😭
@@sinder1230unstable k when?
@@WeezerGreenbro what😭
This really shows how slow churchill levels up. I did not expect that he wouldnt hit 20 til like round 111. Also shows how gas he is with buffs and a good map.
keep in mind deflation starts at like round 30
I mean its a beginner map AND deflation starts at round 30 but its still wild how slow he levels
@@nelpskithat doesn’t matter too much, heroes level up faster on harder maps and on later rounds
bro i was literally just wondering what the best deflation round is and then i see you post this. godly timing
🧢
Dude, I was wondering yesterday how people get to rounds like 100+ because I was struggling getting past round 62 on the moving castle map, and now this shows up.
@@sinitiainen_69 fr
@@The_Red_Scaremoving?!
Did you say it out loud
This guy is the most insane bloons TH-camr out there! Doesn’t get better than this!
Thanks man! :)
@@MackanRules no problem man! Keep up the good work! Love the content!
💀
@@CoconutOrNot_ni
Insane Run!!
Thanks!!
Isn't this like you 3rd late game wr? You're just insane bro, i love your vids
Thank you! :)
Wow did not expect that much of a jump! Also didn't expect 135 in particular to be your demise. Great video!
Thank you! Yeah i kinda expected 138. If you somehow manage to beat 135 i think 136 & 137 is free but 138 is impossible for sure
YOU SPOILED IT!!!!!!!!!!
@@tomoruinThen why’re you looking in the comments before finding it out in the video?
@@_pyrothegod_ checking comments first as the vid starts/loads or as the ads run aint uncommon
@_pyrothegod_ the comments show up under the video
next video: how far can you get on Apopalypse
dude the amount of mixmaxing you do for these videos is cool asf, I would've never thought of reducing track length just to make the most out of relentless glue stuns 😭
I love that Churchill is used for this. He's my favourite hero and its nice to see a niche he does so well in
I love how much use the Unstable Concoctions Alchemist gets in this run, underrated tower imo!!
True!
i don't think there's really anything else at such a low price that is still useful into freeplay, honestly
I don't think it is underrated at all, it is one of the more common towers used to beat the 90s, as long as you have a reliable clean up against the ceramic rushes
@@kevin-7091it is underrated. It's not a tower you see on a usual chimps run especially on expert maps because while the extra damage is nice there are usually other preferable options
Yes a long time ago this did use to be an insanely good option for CHIMPS but the meta has evolved and it's not the bloon demolisher it used to be.
impressive as hell, im going to be attempting this with double cash and instamonkeys, i really want to test how far u can get in a non map-editor run but with extras and powers, im hoping for wave 200 with the right amount of tier 5s and 4s especially with the collection event otw
No, because of the insane ramping. Also in this case Ezili is necessary to beat Round 140 Fortified BAD, even though you use double cash.
Well if you’re using insta monkeys that kinda defeats the purpose and you can get an easy round 300 with the right ones
@@PROBTD yea and i wanna see how far i can get using that, hence why ive been saving them for years
Always wondered how a run like that would go, Godspeed and tell me what wave you eventually end on!
The song at 9:00 feels like it belongs in Bloons Super Monkey.
This should be the farthest glitchless round, since there was a corvis glitch that let you use the spell that gives you xp for money in deflation, which allowed you to get much father
a few years ago theres a glitch where monkeys that were sold on ice in certain maps gave more money than they costed and you could cheese it that way but its been patched
@@spof7795i still have a deflation save with that glitch and its at round like 170
First thing on my recommended after an ods reduced my lifespan by a couple years doing deflation on covered garden. Wingmonkey is so awful, whenever I leaked it was because the ace was in the other side of the map from the bloons for half the round. I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS POSSIBLE TO LEAK SOME BLOONS ON ROUND 40 AND NOT ROUND 60 BUT THE ACE SOMEHOW MANAGED TO DO THAT! GOTTA LOVE THAT RNG
in 100% of cases wingmonkey is worse than placing your ace well
I was actually wondering this exact thing earlier this week
Oh the top comment is someone else with the same experience😅
I absolutely love your videos! Do you think you can try out some other tower defense games? You seem really talented at those, and i think you can break multiple records for the highest waves on TD games!
Buffed Churchill goes hard
I love deflation so much. I really really hope they make a higher difficulty variant with more cash at some point.
The water in the bottom right be vibin
Curious how much further you could go with double the starting cash, or 40400. Think that would change the setup completely
R140 with Ezili
u probably the goat of blooontubers
Thanks man!
@@MackanRules keep the content up bro. And u had zombies channel before, like COD?!? Let me see🤫
You can save a little more money by upgrading the discount villages separately (tier 1, tier 1, tier 2, tier 2) rather than (tier 1, tier 2, tier 1, tier 2)
Music lowkey fire on 2x speed🔥🔥
Edit: (For the most part)
I think you should see how far you can get with only 1 tower from each category on the map at once (farms are allowed) or what paragon (including VTSG with Camo village unless you do bottom path) can get the furthest on degree 1 and 100 (for 100 do max bossted VTSG)
there used to be a glitch where u could earn infinite money in deflation i got to past round 200 (i think it involved selling an artic wind and selling a tower on the water, for some reason this gave u more money than the tower cost)
Goated freeplay setup while farming.
Now deflation no harvest cornfield. You know you want to do it.
OMG you are a genius! :O
@@MackanRules With double cash this time please
How far can you get on Ancient Portal while using only the bottom left box when?
Thanks for always doing these very hard challenges, many of which I have asked myself whether or not they are doable, I have never been able to do much with them.
Thanks! And nice suggestion!
yea i can do that (in my dreams only), gg and well done!
INSANE!!! I bet that no one can go more forward that round 135! Try to do how far can you go in apopalypse plss❤
This is so crazy, i can't even do round 60 sometimes.
Congrats!
Bro built an actual village with discount village houses.
I can't believe he's putting off the tier four run
Honestly tier four run wouldn’t be that hard since you could just spam max sacrifice sun temples but it’ll still be interesting to see
@@bobosniff3336yeah like what supporting stuff would be the best, what sacrifices, and most importantly how far would it get?
That music on round 96 is 🔥
All the songs are made by neffex i personally like almost all his songs
Starting at 3:53 it sounds like the music from “How it’s made”
When the tier 4 only run ?
Im not sure if i will do that one, it's not in the making atm atleast :p
Finally a Late Game run without Adora nor Ezili
Question for you,
How do you know for certain that this is the best combo? I'm a reasonably experienced player though I could never do this kind of thing, how do you arrive at the conclusion that this is in fact meta? I'd assume it's just messing around until you find something that's good, but if there is a metheod I'd be interested to know.
Keep up the content!
his first video does explain some things. You obviously need a hero as any tower with just 20k is not gonna do much and churchill is the best damage hero. concoction is great for dealing group damage and you need a stalling tower like a glue gunner so that churchill has more time to do damage. the rest is trial and error
I think there’s a process that goes something like this:
No.1: figure out the theme of the strat based on limitations eg. Whether to use stall or raw damage, or a mix of the 2. In lategame, a mix is needed due to the bloon variety
No.2: if a mix, figure out what proportions are needed. This is split into 2 steps: identifying the cheapest damage option that will work, and finding the most cost-efficient support for it based on needs. Churchill is by far the cheapest damage, the village needs to give camo to other support, Unstable Concoction helps with taking chunks out of RBE-heavy rounds with many FBFBs, ZOMGS and FZOMGS, glue’s stun gives Churchill time to pop DDTs, who’s main threat is their speed, and alch buff is a cost-effective buff on Churchill that greatly boosts DPS
No.3: Like you said, trial and error. Maybe identify more DPS or support options, and tinker around with them to see what handles your given issue the best
Hope this helps your future runs in this game!
Well basically you start by testing the most difficult rounds in sandbox, usually DDT rounds like 128 and BAD rounds like 119. And try different setups based around different heroes. From that you will find that there is not alot of heroes that can even come close to beating those rounds with only 20k of other towers.
So once you find that churchill is best you just need to find the best way to spend the 20k. With a bit of game knowledge your first assumptions will be fairly close to whats optimal, but you still need to test a bunch of different setups and different positions :)
would you do a challenge on how far you can go on Another Brick using only the wall, or would that be too easy for you? You could do it in challenge editor with half cash and 200% moab hp if that makes it more interesting. I’d do it myself but I fricked up my laptop screen and now btd6 won’t display the middle third
I do have a long list of limited space challenges that i would like to try at some point and that is on the list! So at some point i will probably do that! :)
This is actually insane. Though, I have 1 question about the music
Why do the lyrics suddenly pop up by 7:20 and then go away a bit later? Genuinely just kinda confused about that. (Absolutely love NEFFEX's songs tho)
Thanks! About the music, all of these songs are supposed to be instrumental versions but one of them actually has a bit of lyrics in it for some reason lol not sure why
@@MackanRules Ah, gotcha lol
Been confused about that since the first Deflation video, but I only ever brought it up in the Discord once.
Honestly kinda crazy
It would be interesting if you tried doing primary, military, ect. only. You might discover some new strategies this way.
round 100 deflation achievement guide basically
Is there any other setup that you can pivot into for 135, perhaps selling the village for something like an embrittlement?
I didn't try that exact pivot but i tried a bunch of other stuff :p
You should see how far you can get using every tower but only 1 per round
God I love mackan’s body
Make this top comment
Would be fun to see how far u could get with double cash mode
dude I got 200 glitchless, I even have a video (I used most of my T5 instas to get my final 150th achievement by the way). Get Gud Macken Kappa.
God damn 😭
I got to round 162 using insta-monkeys and Psi, pretty easily actually
The fat electrician music 💀💀💀
nostalgic af
Niceeee🎉
🥳
hey guy
Woah
Now how far can you get on deflation on the perfect map
Nicce
Do you think that Brickell and 0-3-2 Sub Spam can go further?
When I saw no views i clicked immediately
Do you think r100 deflation is possible on any expert maps?
With Double Cash in Dark Castle, it's barely possible...
No idea, but someone just commented about trying cornfield no harvest deflation which also got me thinking about expert maps. Might try one of these ideas in the future!
@@MackanRules Someone on reddit did dark path r100 with ultra jugg, village, and ezili. You should definitely try something like this.
And i was happy to make it to r100 with sauda :'o
churchill be like: tonk
Vid idea: How far can u get as a level 1 account (from fresh start)
Wait this is the Fat Electrician music lol
day 1 of telling mackan to finish lucifers sanctum
fun fact when you revive in deflation you get extra money.
oh god why have i said that.
GG
no mention of corvus during that time he could generate cash in deflation? :(
unstable concoction pop count?
In the description! :)
My record for deflation mode is round 500, this is when there is a corvus bug that can make you generate money using his abilty when he reaches lvl 20. On that run I can afford VTSG and several paragon, but since his abilty can only generate 800 money per use, this run takes me maybe 40+ hours playing actively since you can't use his abilty using techbot (and also you definitely want to use the abilty when the mana reaches 800 to maximize money generation). On that run I also uses time stop power since even using this bug, money you can generate actually isn't limitless since even using stalling, corvus will keep attacking so the round will eventually ends and his skill definitely doesn't generate a lots of money since it takes really long just to create 800.
why lie
Why do I even bother to lie if it totally possible with the bug and strategy I said? Here's the proof, my friend code is LWXFY-TSUMB, you can check it on my player stat what is my highest deflation round
double cash run when?
infinity with the pool stacking glitch and insta monkeys
Aren't instas disabled
@@TaylenYoung-x4z no, only on chimps
@@TaylenYoung-x4z you can use them
@josh-gu6zi oh my bad
I’m curious how far you could get in double cash deflation
Round 140
❤
unfortunate timing
beats my record of 99
And people call Churchill bad...
Just don’t gas yourself out
Do this with double cash please
Why put so many villages in the start?
What if it was called inflation and you would gain money instead 😔
I wonder how far you could get with double cash deflation 🤔
R140
200
My highest is actually 165
(I used a vtsg)
2:35 after this moment, my quality changed from 480p to a 144p
pops on each tower ???????????????????????????
In the description!
thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just use 0-2-5 full auto sniper with a near max alc buff 4-2-0, and a 2-0-4 deadly spike at the end, it clears almost every map on deflation
first
hi
2025?
Under 10 minutes
for something a little bit different look up "Mackan Rules inflation"
why don't you place farms to get more money smh
Oh no i forgot!
@@MackanRules bro its only in boss events your not allowed to farm
Pop counts where?
In the description! :)
@@MackanRules thanks. I was just wondering bout the concoction and if its worth it. And yeah it is.
Ngl, at some point I stopped watching and just vibed with the music
and then there is me who has yet to get the r100 deflation achievement
has anyone thought about half cash late game? don’t think it’ll be easy but haven’t seen any content on it