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2017 Chrysler Pacifica vs Toyota Sienna Minivan Drag Race & Mashup Review
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I had a Chrysler mini van years ago and I have a Sienna now. While the Chrysler was comfortable with excellent interior design, I started to have electrical and mechanical problems after the second year. But the very last thing that made me never touch a Chrysler again was a total breakdown of the transmission right before 40K miles and out of warranty. I bought a Sienna since. The only repair I had on Sienna was a hairline crack of radiator after 10 years of use. I don't care if Chrysler is faster, bigger, or cheaper. All these can't compensate the hassle and expenses of lack of reliability.
Jason Chen most of RAM, Dodge, Chrysler n jeep r basically cheap n trash
Jason Chen I own a 2010 volkswagen routan which is basically a rebadged town and country/dodge caravan. It even says mopar in the corner of the window and on many of the parts. It shared the same anemic chrysler 3.8L v6 as well (making a whopping 197hp) and although it is considered to be more upscale and the interior is far better, than its chrysler counterparts, its Chrysler cheapness still shines through every creaky and I'll fitting panel. It has always burned a quart of oil every 1,500 miles and has gone through its first transmission at only 100k miles. I later purchased a 2015 Honda odyssey EX and I find it to be a major upgrade. It has way more power, at 45,000 miles it doesn't burn or leak a drop of oil, and the engine feels as smooth as silk. It is superior to the old "chrysler" in every way and i will never buy another chrysler product ever again.
So what your trying to say is you can save thousands of dollars if you spend only 200 dollars more in the first place buying a sienna.
USSVoyager5 I don’t agree, I think the new one really has a nice grill.
The transmission should have a 5 year 60k mile warranty.
Chrysler always let you excited at the begin and disappointed at the end!
no
Yeah My familys chrysler transmission failed two weeks after getting it. Very poor quality.
honda and toyota is much more reliable.
Should use 2017 Sienna with new engine for this test
Could you make a series where you would showcase a car manufacturer every episode, telling things like patterns in styling, driving feel, the variety of cars they make,etc. I think it would be a really cool series! Love your videos and keep up the good work!
Thanks for the great idea. We'll run it by the team.
id watch that...BIG TIME!
Some people might be really surprised to know which car companies make which brands.
That is seriously a great idea, never would've thought of that.
nice idea
Not sure this Andre guy realizes that one car has huge moon roofs and the other doesn't. Cuts into headroom. Same day this video came out Toyota announced its 2017 Sienna will have more hp and torque than the Pacifica.
But it doesn’t
@@thebiggestfish2 the Pacifica has 287hp, and the Sienna has 296hp
@@caleblastname6969 you can get the Pacifica in awd so even with it having less hp the get up and overall ride is a lot better also to is a lot higher and as far as a base model you can get a v6 in th Chrysler the Toyota you get a 2.5 cylinder...
@@caleblastname6969 Toyota does win in gpm but Chrysler snatching that title back up with more space with the Chrysler being 204.3” and the Toyota 203”
@@caleblastname6969 and you should be sad to know that no matter what trim and how much money you pay if you get a Toyota minivan your getting a 2.5L😂sucks
You compared a 2016 Sienna to a 2017 Pacifica. You said the Pacifica has more horsepower. The 2017 Sienna has more horsepower that the 2017 Pacifica.
You guys are not qualified to evaluate vehicles if you can't understand the many other flaws in your comparison.
Google user these are the press vehicles they were given. They don’t have control if it’ll be a current or past year vehicle. You aren’t qualified to comment if you can’t understand that.
I believe that the 2016 Sienna is a personal vehicle owned by him.
This is one of my favorite head-to-head competitions. Great job!
I love watching these reviews! Great job guys!
is the chrysler reliable my dad has two toyota sienna s his old one from the 1998 is still working perfectly
Nothing will ever compare to the Toyota Sienna, its AWD and the only van with it, here in Canada its highly needed, if you don't have AWD in Canada your bloody crazy. This is the ultimate family haller not just because its AWD but its very functional and family friendly. This summer i was looking at trading in my family SUV (2013 Ford Explorer) for something bigger because there was another baby on the way, with having two car seats and constantly needing the 3rd row the explorer became to small. We looked into vehicles like the GMC yukon, Buick Enclave, and a few more. Not wanting to spend money on another small SUV or a gas eater, i looked into the Sienna, that week we went and put and order on one, waited for it to come in, test drove it and instantly fell in love, We purchased our 2016 Sienna Limited AWD, in July and couldn't be happier. Now i know the thought of driving a minivan can be dreadful, but once your behind the wheel of the Sienna you forget that its a van. This is truly the ultimate family vehicle.
Any reason why the 2017 Sienna wasn't used? 296hp/263lb-ft and an 8AT.
This is what I hate about these guys when they review cars. Absolutely zero people that are buying a minivan care how the steering feels - it's not a sports car. 95% of the people buying these vans are soccer moms who simply expect the car to turn when they spin the magical wheel one way or the other. Also, complaining about the body lean is silly. They're 6,000 pound highway cruisers, not a race car. If you're buying a minivan for handling, you need to just not buy a minivan. They're pigs, they will drive like pigs. If handling is an issue for you in these cars, you're not driving them how they're supposed to be driven. And in an emergency situation, you're not going to miss the hazard anyway. Again, it's a 6,000 pound car. And to finish my rant - you'd be insane to pick the Pacifica over the Sienna. Those nine speed transmissions are a ticking time bomb, especially since Fiat/Chrysler has consistently been one of the WORST companies for reliability every single year. The Sienna will far outlast the Chrysler.
last toyota i owned ended up having to have the whole engine reconstructed because it was badly designed it was the camry. Terrible car also cost too much for bad quality interior
so your saying a minivan shouldnt have good handling or good steering for the driver to enjoy not to mention it can be a safety issue if the car doesn't have good handling.
also these are auto reviewers there clearly not pigs you tard. They enjoy what they do and i respect what they do because i enjoy it. Also.
LOL I wasn't calling the reviewers pigs - the cars are. Also, if you buy a minivan to enjoy driving, you don't understand what the minivan is for. No minivan has good handling anyway (hint: they're not designed to be driver's cars). Also, the Camry is one of the most reliable cars on the market. Either you had a lemon, or you fucked something up driving it hard. There are millions of Camrys on the road with incredibly high mileage - I know because I own one myself.
SYM Films don't listen to anyone who tells you to buy a chrysler. My caravan was an oil burner from the factory, and had wiring issues up the wazoo. also those 9 speeds ARE absolute trash. Give me the Toyota anyday!
@6:28 that particular pasifica model doesnt equipped with panoramic roof + sunroof at the 3rd row like the range-topping pasifica model hence you get much more headroom across 3 rows compared to the sienna that being tested here that equipped with dual sunroofs
only if the Pacifica is as reliable. 😥
We dont know yet.
+CrazyFastRapper I hope it is more reliable than the others, but what are the chances with such history!?
+abdulaziz alsager True true. This is their last chance to get a better name. Fuck this up their done. BUT it is the 1st gen. Remember how bad the 2007 GMC Acadia was?
My 1999 T&C is more reliable then the 2004 sienna i had lol
+jmanyes Nice to hear that...90's minivan was good...You are right.
Thanks guys! Great video! I have the choice between these exact vehicles as a company car and this really helped. I do like the sunroofs of the Sienna though
Awesome review guys.. Love watching it. Tell the boss that you two are to do more of these. 2018 Pacifica Limited vs Honda Odyssey Elite. Please, Please.. We just added a Touring L plus Pacifica to the Driveway. My wife loves it and my girls even more.
Sat inside the, I assume base model, Pacifica at the state fair in Sacramento, ca a few weeks ago and that shit felt hella cheap
The seats were hard as cement and quality interior felt uber cheap
The Toyota though in the long run will no doubt be the more reliable vehicle.
Maybe in 1999
Duh
I totally agree but I'm surprise how actually good chrysler pentastar motor is
@@lekikelekona9809 yeah their v4 engines are crap
You guys are the best...I'm definitely gonna use you guys to help me in my next purchase
I saw one in person and was surprised by how big it was, it looks really small in all the car magazines for some reason.
where has the minivan shootouts been my whole life?!?!?
I grew up in the 90s where Minivans were all the rage and Grand Caravan ES was king among them.
We had a white 1993 grand caravan, My parents bought it the same year I was born. 17 years later, me and my friends used to drive it around and smoke pot in it. Great van!
Wonder why the value of the Toyota holds up much better than the Pacifica? Check the quality of the cheap materials in the Pacifica. Check service and breakdown records on both vehicles. Then make an educated decision. :)
Watch the passenger partial overlap crash testing though, it's horrible in the Toyota.
Out of a sample size of one, my dad's Chrysler Town & Country from 14 years ago with 150k mile, lots of miles filled with kids, and the only thing that has ever broken is the rear hatch motor switch. That doesn't seem all that bad for a car that everyone seems to think is the lowest quality you can possibly get.
Did all the commenters trashing Pacifica reliability ever take a logic course. It is ludicrous to make a judgement on reliability on a new from the ground up vehicle based on comparison to a vehicle with mostly different parts. I checked the safety logs and the poster who stated his neighbors burned was flat lying. Unless they insurance companies and every one else has stopped reporting possible safety defects. It may have lousy reliability or it may not, just to soon to tell. Same with resale value. Why not try to objecfully evaluate the vehicle as is and wait for the data for the rest. Oh that's right your egos require you declare failure now to show what great gurus you are.
That comic of Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown would be appropriate here.
what if the posters neighbors car really did burn ? I mean one could also say you're lying lol
I actually don't know either way, I only know it wasn't safety reported as required, at least as of the date of the post.
It has that terrible transmission that went bad and failed in other Chrysler products. the Chrysler van will not last.
You mean the same transmission that Honda uses? Oh yes it is. So Honda a company that prides itself on reliability uses the same transmission? That can't be. Well it is. Oh and its not the same exact transmission. Its been refined, retooled etc...
I suggest a rematch: actual 2017 model year (296hp/8sp) sienna fwd vs pacifica. Apples to apples.
Hey guys! Greeetings from Moscow, Russia. You do a great job and I've been your huge fan for years. When you make reviews of such family vans as Sienna or Pacifica, please don't forget to mention its compatibility with child's car seats: number and positionning of Isofix anchors (including 3rd rows) and seats recline angles. Thanks!
We had a 2002 Dodge Caravan... drove it everywhere, road trips and all, and basically drove it into the ground... sold it in 2013 for $3000 and the lady who has it now apparently drives it all over the place, takes it on a lot of road trips. It served us well and was extremely reliable! We stayed on top of oil changes and such and it was great. We now have a 2013 Dodge Caravan, and it's been pretty great so far besides a couple recalls, but my mom is an aggressive driver, takes corners super quickly and breaks at the last second, and accelerates very quickly all the time. So far the van has put up with it perfectly, haha.
I would go with the Pacifica. My folks bought a Caravan SE 2.4L back in 2001 and that van is still running like a champ with over 130k miles on the odometer. The only major thing my dad replaced was the ECU and the original radiator, which I replaced for him.
Toyota's reliability is legendary. On one of mine, a 12 years old vehicle, all I've done is oil changes, one brake job and one radiator hose replacement. Not because it was busted but as a prevention!
monzx3 smart....
Good video but have a few things I would like to know? Do these vans use timing belts like Honda? also, will the back seats recline all the way the sleep in for long trips? Thanks
what cameras you are using to take a video?
Can u do Honda Odyssey vs Pacifica???
why not compared a fully loaded Pacifica to a fully loaded Sienna.
Yea, I was thinking the same thing.
they were both pretty loaded when it comes to available options
That pacifica was no where near loaded... it was basically a LX with options judging by the lack of Chrome trim in the front lower air damn
Only the losers will pick the chrome.
That looked like a touring model. Touring L and up comes with projector headlights.
great video you guys and the truck speed to open and close is funny to see.
soon i am going to buy minivan. which you guys suggest. Sienna? pacifica? sedona? caravan ? quest?Odyssey?
Pacifica is made in my home town, but I'd go with the Sienna because of Toyota reliability and Chrysler's lack thereof. You'll have the car working ten years from now, don't count on it with the Chrysler (and if you go to sell, you'll get a good price for it if you to Toyota). BTW, hope Chrysler didn't use at Zeppelin nine speed, they're crapping out in the Cherokee.
So you bash a vehicle without seeing any reliability report. 50% Canadian Minivan market is Dodge Minivan that is made in same factory with Pacifica. Get a clue ...
I owned a Doge Minivan, was an awful POS. The roads around here a lined with them with "$500 obo, AS IS". You want to point me to those great "reliability reports"?
...and to the guy who pmed me "And when the Chrysler plant in your home town shuts down, watch your home toen go down the tubes. Enjoy!" - I rent. When such happens, I'll be elsewhere. And lets hope this time the idiot Federal and provincial govts don't bail them out. If they want to change things they'd better start getting things right because they've alienated way too many people with shoddy products.
Robert Drake So you owned Doge Minivan, not Dodge ? Get some respect for hard working people
I guess I have a 'freakish' 2003 Grand Caravan with a 3.3L - Nearly 300K (in that time replaced - Transmission, Master Cylinder, Water pump and the air con bit the dust years ago.). The body is very decayed, but it still runs down the road. It has been the cheapest cost per mile vehicle to run that I have ever owned.
Sienna AWD with snow tires.... perfect family ski vehicle
Regarding the Toyota - does the AWD version offer a spare tire? I know the front wheel version does. Can the second row seats be removed or do they fold into the floor? Can you open and close the rear hatch by swiping your foot under the bumper like on other vehicles?
that was the most fun car review ive watched
Well the Sienna is 6 years old, I'm not surprised it lost.
7 actually. Came out as a 2010.
1guyin10 The current Sienna came out as a 2011 model, and went on sale in 2010.
It's actually a New sienna not 6 years old.
Tropic Smoke This is the refreshed Sienna, which is the same generation as the 2011-2014.
Joshua R New skin on the old bones. They are still good bones, just not quite as good in comparison as they used to be. Toyota will not get in any hurry to redesign it because it will still sell well for a few more years. They are very well known for squeezing every last penny out of an investment - not that doing so is a bad thing.
Most powerful until the 2017 Sienna drops. The 2017 Sienna will have 296hp and 263 ft-lbs tq.
got 08 new sienna 80k present and the only thing i can remember so far is to changed my tires brakes oils bulbs and battery.
Good mashup guys!
I have 1999 Sienna and it's still going and going like a champ.
So a base Pacifica compare to a loaded up sienna?
And yet the Pacifica still wins. Weird...
+AGreedyTree right??
If you cant tell by the intro, they wanted the asian car to win.
Base comes with leather and GPS... wow the times have changed. Also, the sienne is old.. how long has this model been arround?
the Alphard line should be brought to the states , itll kick the sienna to the curb as well as other minivans
will you guys do all the minivans together in a comparison test
Shout out to Boulder, boys! I live in DC now, but lived in Boulder for years, pretty awesome to see you drive around roads I know, haha. I think I'm gunna pick up a Pasifica, and funny enough we are moving back to Boulder in a few months. Maybe you will see my family and I riding around in it! Thanks for the video!
The Sienna will probably win for reliability.
By far
quality goes over to the chrysler, as expected from a luxury car manufacturer
for sure.
You do realize that Toyota makes Lexus. Chrysler isn't really known as a luxury brand. . .
Sienna is safer and more reliable. Way better resale value vs a Chrysler... Sienna has been around for YEARS and has dominated the minivan market along with Honda. But still til this day I see more Sienna's on the road 10 years old or more on the road all the time . Runs forever
how can you judge about safety, resale and reliability when the Pacifica havent been tested yet? show me a used 3 mth old 2017 Pacifica please.
+Tomaz Hilton one word. " Chrysler " 200c is a shitty car... 300c is shitty. They all depreciate . Not the safest cars in the world
Awesome comparison video, thank you so much for helping me to make a decision.
John Play What was your decision?
I just got your message, not used to using TH-cam message like this. But yes, because of your video, I bought the Chrysler Pacifica 2017 - Touring, $30k + TTL. Awesome! Love it, love it, cannot say enough about how well it handles, fun to drive, quality dashboard, love the dial shifter. I asked my friend to check out my new car and he said "How much is this, $40k?" Hahahhahaa... $30k hello! Quality craftmanship... Cannot say enough about the quality of this car. Thank you very much, guy!!
I like how Andre review the car. he sounded very convincing to me
well when your broken down Chrysler will send there sienna service vehicle to pick u up lol
This video is just another Chrysler Pacifica's Advertisment.
Hope to see you guys compare the Pacifica vs Odyssey
Do you think the Pacifica is a worthy replacement for the outgoing Caravan/Grand Caravan?
I work on Mopars and I have yet to see a Pacifica up close because nobody has bought any yet. They have big shoes to fill.
I hate working on the Fiat based stuff which the Pacifica is.
So do another mashup of the same vehicles in 2017 the sienna will win the drag race
It wont
Toyota is always gonna kick chrysler's ass at reliability
I love how Toyota people who claim this and take their expensive yotas to the dealer every 3k miles for expensive service vs typical Chrysler owners who never go to the dealer for service and beat the tar out of their vehicles.
was the 2017 Sienna not available when you tested this? Also the weight of the Oval Drive hurts to see Anna's acceleration especially because I'm all above sea level the engine is already weak and doesn't need the extra traction 4 take off and the Sienna is a fully loaded version so it was even more compared to a base model
I've driven several Chrysler models with the 9 speed transmission. They've improved the programming recently so it's not so jerky, but you won't get anywhere near the EPA numbers. A recent 4-cyl 200 rental only managed 19.1 MPG in suburban driving, and it's rated for 23 in pure city driving.
I still hate that they discontinued the Caravan and T&C. Was the only minivan where people actually had a choice for a sportier or luxurious drive. Dumb move for killing off successful name plates.
They didnt cancel the town and country
+Joeg863 / / Joe G they are
+Joeg863 / / Joe G
yeah 2017 will be the last year for the Caravan and T&C
They are discontinuing Town and Country, but Caravan is going to continue for a while.
It's not a dumb move! They didn't sell any. They have already proven it was a good decision
The Toyota is still better anyways
You mad
any idea when the 2017 fusion sport will get it's review?
Chrysler and Dodge starting the minivan era in America is one of the few things that makes me happy about owning a '96 Voyager.
Yes, the new Pacifica is very nice. But, the Sienna and Odyssey current generations came out in 2010 and 2011 so they are getting a little old. Let's see how the Pacifica compares to the new redesigns of the Sienna and Odyssey in the coming years.
Apples to Oranges. By then, there would probably be a refresh Pacifica.
In 10 years there will be no comparison at all when your Sienna worth $14k and still works like new while your Chrysler worth $5k and needs $5k for repairs to keep it barely running.
Plz do a review on the 2021 Chrysler Pacifica and the Dodge grand Caravan review thank you
What about the Dodge Caravan? Does it use the same engine? Get the same MPGs?
I'm sticking with Toyota because my neighbors 300 caught fire just running in his driveway.....(it was a 2015) I wouldn't want to put my children in a big FCA fire hazard.
lies
+Tomaz Hilton right i work for them never herd of this happening
Any car could catch on fire randomly if there is something wrong with nit.
Fucking bull bro! The 300 has been made for years and I never heard of this happening once!
Sienna wins. Reliability!!!
Resale will also be about double when the van is 10 years old on the Sienna.
how's the Pacific handles weather conditions rain and snow crash inf & recalls please help me
very fun and informative!
how much chrysler pay you guys to advertize this show lol.... toyota is alway better, see 78% of mini van on the road is japan make
000 0000 Considering GM and Ford don't make Mini vans anymore, no European manufacturers make them, and that the others available are Korean junk is it any surprise? Also I bet most of that remaining 20% is Chrysler
Sienna wins. Stylish, quality all around.
The trunk race at the end was my favorite part.
Tfl, is the trunk battle going to be a different video?
Sienna for 2017 has 296 hp new engine
Lmao minivan people are going at it. Its a shame that almost all minivans are crap. The only semi-good van is the honda odyssey
Hate the 4th gen odessey's design, i perfer the 3rd gen odessey lol.
you mean sienn
The sienna is one of the biggest pieces of crap on earth. There is so much plastic in it, from the first gen to the current gen sienna. My aunt worked for toyota and everybody ended up with siennas in family except for us. Its a truly dreadful car and now theyre looking for ways to get rid of them. And almost all minivans are this bad with the exception of the honda odyssey. The mercedes minivan is also bad and thats a mercedes for crying out loud
The Good ones are the Toyota Sienna, Honda Oddesey
+Frank Magana stfu Sienna Is good, The Transmission On the Oddesey Is Crap, Look at the 2017 Model, Its So I
Ugly
the toyota head room is different only bcuz the moonroofs. they take up to 2 inches of head clearance
Good video but you should have included reliability predictions for these two mini vans based on past performance.
the 2nd and 3rd row seats are not that comfortable compare to Sienna or Odyssey.
they are not padded enough because they are stow and go.
this is also the reason why other manufacturers did not follow.
but it is very versatile especially if you need to load a large object
Get the Chrysler, but lease it because the resale will T A N K .
Also it may break soon after the lease.
Is sooooo true.Check KBB in 5 years after you paid that much for the pacifica,you will freak out.The Toyota wont loose much of any resale value in 5 years.
True
If you plan on keeping it till the wheels fall off then resell value means nothing. Cars are not investments and they all lose there value. If you buy a new car every 4-5 years then yes get the Toyota if not then whatever.
+boondox max well Toyotas still keep their values better
Pretty awesome interiors of both minivans.
really helpful video, before i was 90% for sienna and after watching this video its doen to 50% ..... thinking about buying pasifica
Really the pacifica? That thing will blow up in a little over a 100k and the sienna will go forever. Other than the Chrysler being hopelessly unreliable and the sienna being bulletproof the cars are very similar. How the hell is the Chrysler any better? It isn't even any more American.
Truth. Sienna is 78% American Made as of 2017 report
2003 Town and Country here, almost 137000 miles on it (some of which was towing a small travel trailer) and it's still going.
The Toyota was more equipped over that Chrysler. In those features it made the Chrysler seem cheaper. Still would rather take the Chrysler. There have been issues with the Toyotas from what I hear. All automakers have their issues don't get me wrong but the Chrysler is hands down the favorite.
lol
There is a lot of 3row mini vans and SUVs now, and we're buying them because of our family size ... I'd really like to see you put a popular brand of car seat in the 2nd row to see if the 3rd remains actually usable. I see the MFG website boosts it will hold 8 people, but if there is 2 car seats in the second row I don't see how people even get into the 3rd row without removing them. Knowing this would be a HUGE help to making a choice for my growing family.
I'm going to guess that none of the people that are commenting currently have any interest in minivans at all... if they did then they would realize the Chrysler is the most versatile with great fuel economy, and at a competitive price. it drives nicely it's quiet, and it is quick, which is important, regardless of whether or not it's a minivan. yes, the Sienna and odyssey are long in the tooth but it's a comparison of what's available now. Chrysler clearly deserves the first place here.
Chrysler invented the minivan in 1989 and I think they still make the best minivans.
Please stop knocking Chrysler, once they start selling rebadged Fiats they'll be fine. Just show a little patience‼️😜😜😜
Quique D. Au contraire, it is my sober and considered opinion. Chrysler is on its way up‼️🤗🤗🤗
Ever hear of the fable of the boy who cried wolf? You guys were saying that in 1979, in the 90s with the terrible engines, transmissions, and recalls, when MB took over, and after the latests bankruptcy. Chrysler is JUNK!!
Bartonovich52 I'm discussing the future, not dwelling in the past‼️😃😃😃
@Pascal Dilday There isn't any effort involved, it just comes naturally.
With the Sienna's new direct injection engine and 8 speed transmission could it now take out the Pacifica in the drag race?
Only thing is, that rotary gear selector - it's a solenoid based system. And solenoids do occasionally give out.
sienna is better but i already know the pacifica is gonna win because they're sponsored
*end of video* wow how did i ever predict that?
+reddog we were paid the exact same amount to produce this video by Chrysler that you were paid to make this comment.
The Fast Lane Car upon further thought, sponsored was not the correct word, biased would be more correct.
+reddog or....it could just be that the Pacifica is a very good new Van and the Sienna is starting to show its age.
The Fast Lane Car then if you know its going to be an unfair comparison why make a video over it? you cannot compare a brand new mini to one that was designed in 2011.
Chryslers are garbage the Toyota wins by default.
That's all nice and stuff, but the real question is reliability, after all it is a dodge product over the long run, which will cost me more..?,
I got to look at a Pacifica this weekend. The dealer said the Limited trim is selling as fast as they can unload them off the truck. He had only gotten one with the lower Touring trim in so far and it was the only one he had on the lot. Seems like a very well thought out van. Toyota and Honda will have their hands full competing with that one.
If you want quality and reliability. GO with the Toyota. The Chrysler has lower quality leather and overall has a cheap feel/look and real world usability. The Chrysler are good for car rental agencies. Toyota has dual sunroof, quality parts and attention to detail given to every aspect.
wft is "real world usability". like Sto-n-Go is useless in the "real world"
+Tomaz Hilton
Yup, Chrysler is the only minivan with a nice stow n go feature that makes it more practical than the honda or toyota.
jmanyes right and if they Opted for the Limited, it has oth Powered Sto-n-Go and 3rd Row Seats... this Rarely Optioned AWD Sienna (AWD is only available on its Top Trim) doesnt have even powered 3rd row seats..... or a Vac lol
+Tomaz Hilton
One thing i liked about chrysler was that they gave you choises. Get the Caravan for a "sportier" drive or the T&C for a smoother drive but after 2017 don't think they will do that anymore.
Last rental car I had was a Toyota. And it sucked!
will not pay for unreliable $28K Pacifica. no no no
i have an odyssey and my neighbor have the Pacifica. Pacifica looks cool but it feel small..I'm not sure if that's the case
The Trunk race Sold me !! 😂