Be like me and think about how it will serve as a bug out vehicle, or urban boon-docking if you cant pay your rent and have to live in your vehicle for a spell, or as a great place to haul your long guns, targets, shooting table, chairs, cooler full-o-beer (not that I'm promoting shooting and drinking mind you. . . "cough-cough"). A great way to carry mountain bikes, gear, and people to the trail head. A way to haul "big stuff" from lumber, to furniture, appliances and do it on a level that competes with a truck (except for hauling 'dirty stuff'). A more comfy alternative to a stripped down utility van.
Mightz Of Glory Jesus tap dancing Christ. Proof positive that any comment section is an internet garbage dump. What we have with your comment is a perfect example of a person of minimal intelligence attempting to sound intelligent by stitching words together in a sentence without applying any ACTUAL critical thinking. Save your horse shit for your conspiracy theory forums. I have three kids, a wife, and two dogs. I like this van because it's a logical and useful tool I could use to get ourselves and our copious amounts of shit from point A to point B. When I was 21, all I had was a hangover and a stack of student loans that could bankrupt a small nation and I thought minivans were for thirty something suburban moms and dads that had mailed it in. Now I am one. Hence, my original comment. And subsequent inability to suffer fools. Goodnight
savagegeese The most important feature to consider while purchasing a 2017 year family vehicle should be safety features such as collission mitigation braking. Adding a bunch of screaming kids to our everyday drives that are already full of distractions can be quite overwhelming. These safety features that are slowly becoming standard these days can save lives and limbs. It is standard in the 2017 Toyota Highlander and a thousand dollar option on all trim of the 2016 Honda Pilot. I agree with you 100% that people who need real passenger space and utility should stick to minivans. However people with just one or two little children can get easily get by in a mid-size SUV, without feeling like a van driving chump. I appreciate the engineering of the disappearing seats, but do people really need a full flat floor cargo van? It's quite neat, but I don't see this as the most in-demand feature. It was also weird to see you recommend this van despite the problem-prone 9 speed ZF. Just because it is a great improvement upon a Chrystler product, doesn't make it a great family buy. Problem-free transmission and safety features are not too much to ask if you look at other choices these days.
Brian Ross all you need to know is that he was driving both a Lambo and a V10 M5 in college while his parents payed for an engineering degree from UM he will never use. Like you said an astonishingly un-relatable douchecanoe.
Every single review gets better and better, not just the quality of editing, but Turbowski loosens up and talks more, you guys are getting into deeper details... Everything gets better with every video. Nicely done guys.
The Pentastar engine in this generation and the 2016+ Grand Cherokee have the 2 stage variable valve lift (not just timing) system. i.e. Chrysler's version of VTEC. This helps provide the strong top-end power. Also has cam phasing for variable timing, which is something the Honda SOHC J-series V6s don't have. Pretty advanced stuff. With an aftermarket intake you would hear the crossover point engage. Amazing engine.
180kmi on my 05 Odyssey. Raised a family with it, used it for dog hauling, stuff hauling, moving, as well as hauling my entire kart racing setup to the track with it. 3.5L engine was bulletproof and plenty of power. Handling was on par with most sedans. I often tell people that minivans are the best all around and most practical vehicles on the road. If you look at the 'big picture' of your car ownership life, you'll get it. Nice to see Chrysler did away with the monstrosity of direct injection which means that this might be a vehicle I'd consider buying used at some point.
This is the best review I’ve seen on the Chrysler Pacifica. He really went into more detail about this awesome van. I’m definitely sold. No crossover for my family!!
Brilliant Review! just got a new Pacifica, Touring L Plus with 18 inch rims and Touring Suspension (the other option was an Odyssey)...it's actually real fun to drive, has some good kick to it, seating is comfortable in every row...never thought I would own a minivan...but with the family growing I am so glad I got one. SavageGeese has by far some of the best automobile reviews ever! keep up the awesome work!
+Ali Syed Thanks and glad you overcame the nonsense people make up that mini vans suck its really a great vehicle for practicality. Hopefully it stays reliable.
savagegeese Mr. geese ... What did you like better ?the kia sedona or the Pacifica? ..trying to convince the wife that this two options will be better than a flex what do you think?
Bravo! Fantastic video! I've been watching dozens of used car TH-cam minivan reviews. I have never seen another review that put the minivan up on a hoist. You are to be commended for this over whelmingly detailed superb video!
I agree with your comment about the crossovers. My wife and I had a look at this today in a showroom, and I sat in the third row and it was so comfortable and I'm 6'2" and 140lbs. All the switch gear felt excellent and the quality was first class. The seats were so comfortable. When the time comes to buy a new minivan, we'll be getting one of these. Fantastic size for taking our two dogs about in. And with the Uconnect system, you can start the car from your phone. Plus my wife liked the 911 button on the mirror and the assist button, just like Onstar. Chrysler have done a fantastic job.
Wow, makes me want a van. Your videos are always worth watching even though I am not in the market, it lets me know what to look for and what options I should expect for a given segment! Great work!
They are sharp looking vans. Gotta remember that this is a vehicle for moms to haul kids in. My wife still loves her ancient grand caravan that we raised our family with. We may get one of these someday when they are used for about $10K and the long term issues become known. It may have good performance and such but in reality they will spend their lives putting around at 35mph to school and soccer games. Does it really need 9 speeds? No. 4 or 5 would be fine and eliminate constant shifting. Constant shifting concerns me for longevity and the 3.6 clattering at startup is worrisome. I wonder if they fixed that. Touchscreen everything is also a concern. It may work for 5 years but how about at 10-12 years? Will this be a money pit?
This is by far the best review of this car. SO glad Chrysler did such a great job on this car. This review made me subscribe to your channel. Great job!
+ssavagegeese I mean I know those in the know would just be winter tires and your fine. However the majority dont like cars and think awd helps them stop faster in snow as well. See every SUV in ditch. Like you I have always championed the mini van but it seems like automakers still do not get the market. Everything on this van is great, except lack of AWD. Sorry just frustrates me as i have recommended this and the Kia Sedona and am always immediately asked if they are awd.
Neezy Ko I hope so. I think this could kill the market with awd. The hybrid is just dumb given how it compromises the van-ness by losing the store and go seating.
Neezy Ko Good to know. The Sienna also now has the most HP in its segment with the bump in output from the revised v6. But its soooo ugly. I know thats subjective but man do I think that is the ugliest car and im the guy that loves the spindle grill on Lexus. Never realized that Chrysler actually changed the integrity of the seats but would make sense that the stationary seats are more comfortable. Good points
It's an amazing car if you have kids. Traded an Acura MDX for it and can't believe I waited so long. And I get to drive a tuned GTI to work, so everybody wins. Right tool for the job, right? Thanks for this review, it convinced me to get one.
What I like about it among many things is the choice to see the oil temp, trans temp etc on the instrument cluster center info area. Some of us like to know those things. It can give you a heads up if things are on their way out like high temp etc. I guess hat sounds stupid maybe but I like to know what’s going on with my engine.
True I think they are working on it. When I purchased my Cherokee in 2001 I was prepared for massive reliability problems. They never came. My jeep now has 300,000 miles on it. Original trans and engine. I would get an extended Chrysler warranty. When it was about to expire if I had no problems keep on motoring. If I had problems sale with 1 year left on the warranty.
10tenman10 Depend on how you treat it. I have a Town and Country (2005) that has over 300k and its only had the hubs and radiator (other small things) replaced...
There are tons of Dodge / Chrysler minivans still on the road with tons of miles on them... he's right about alot of the quality on some of the stuff and certain things failing at 80 to 120k. The parts for them are very inexpensive and easy jobs. The market segment that tends to have purchased these sometimes as the 2d, 3rd or 4th owner tends to be a segment that also does 0 maintnance on anything until its actually broken. even the old ones for the cost were good minivans. The new ones look like they have learned some lessons and made quite a few improvements
6:19 that is why I had no problem with the previous gen Town and Country. The price was so much lower that the Toyota and Honda, I had no problem replacing in my case the radiator, right front break caliber, alternator, power steering reservoir, Brake Master Cylinder, oil and tranny gasket and brakes of course by 100k miles. Yes, you get what you pay for and I was still way ahead on the $$$.
Excellent review. Here in Australia, the Grand Voyager was priced around $75k - big money next to Euro vans. Then I rode in my friends one in 2004. Even as a 9 year old in a brand new car I shuddered at the panel gaps, acres of shiny plastic and poor ride - I'm glad to hear they woke up.
Great review. If my Mazda5 ever takes a crap, I will be picking up one of these. One question: I have never seen your reviews touch on safety features/ratings/crash test results - any reason why? Seems viewers, especially ones interested in family vehicles, would value your feedback on this.
Great review. I've seen at least 12 and this is by far the best I've seen. I just ordered and will pick up tomorrow a 2017 Touring L with 16,000 miles. Really looking forward to getting rid of my 2015 T&C with 195,000 miles. Thank you!
First review I've seen where they put it up on a rack and really go thru the motor. Plus the test drive is real , like I'd be drivivg. Suscribed!! Boogers🤣
I love how his videos are of such high quality and professionalism, and then you see "Girl Farting Compilation" on the radio.... You are sitting there like "Wow, this is actually a nice van", and then it just appears... and you just laugh your ass off. This is why I can't help but wonder how he doesn't have more subscribers.
A big determinant between buying a minivan vs.a three row crossover, is AWD availability of crossovers. 70% of the US receives snow in winter, and the use of wide, low profile tires on modern car's, don't plow through the snow like the old narrower, higher profile tires with softer rubber did, even with front wheel drive. I'm also not convinced of the strength of Aluminum for the front control arms, especially on cars this heavy. I'd rather have solid iron ones, regardless of any handling or weight penalty. Savagegeece: Thanks for testing an average vehicle, us car lovers don't all love sports cars.
Hopefully those quality improvements will lead to reliability improvements. Because Chryslers in my household certainly have not been reliable with fit and finish and electronics. But our 88 did stay in the family for 15 years. But our 94 had transmission problems after only 70k miles. That being said, I would need to lease one of these newer ones and see how they fair before I am comfortable enough to buy one with the thought of keeping it.
drove my 2015 m3 to chrysler dealer, and test drive pacifica, steering wheel really felt the same. And i bought it without thinking of looking at other models
Wow I've been binge watching some car review channels because I have no life however out of all the reviewers I have to say these guys are the best and compare them to saablyke and Alex on autos anyways can u guys make a video on the 2017 Nissan armada I might get this car for my self but I want your guys professional opinion first
honda and Chrysler should've went for zf 8 speed instead but they thought they could fix the issues with the 9 speed through software..that worked well for them lol... honda is working on a regular 10 speed auto and a 11 speed three clutch trans.
I just bought a just bought a 2019 Touring L yesterday to replace my 2010 Town and Country - there is no comparison between the two vehicles. I will say this about three row crossovers (I also have a 2015 Dodge Journey) - they make a great second vehicle. I use my Journey as my daily driver, and it's big enough to haul my family (4 kids) in a pinch. I would never consider it for regular family use just because it doesn't have the size of a van. The Pacifica though? I haven't seen anyone say anything bad about it anywhere. The 3.6L Pentastar has been around since 2011. It's also in a LOT of Mopar vehicles. Other than the 2011 rear cylinder head problems (which were recalled and corrected), I haven't heard of any widespread issues with it. The Advanced SafetyTec Group - I can not say enough good things about it, and I've only got 15 miles behind the wheel with it. You just don't realize how good it is until you drive it, and then drive something else without it.
I have been binge watching all of your videos man. Your review quality is ridiculous for how many subscribers you have. Keep doing what you’re doing, please.
If they made a Jeep version of this with a Dana 44 and 35s I'd buy it. Call it the Jeep Herder or something. It's like an Element on the inside, no obstacles, etc.
I was looking to trade my big sedan for this pacifica. Gets better highway mpg too. You helped me make my decision. Thanks. Still have my GTI for just me time.
Totally agree, coming from a 3 row and a pretty spacious Saturn Outlook (GMC Acadia) We looked at every make and model that would fit our family with 3 rows. We were determined not to own a minivan and now a blue Pacifica Limited takes the place of our SUV.
I rented this vehicle for a week and drove long and short distances, its a very well seated vehicle with superior gadgets. However, i did notice the brake system failure light came on twice (it was rental) it drove very well and buying USED i have no worries on cost:)
I'm a 33 year old man with a family and vans are the best, I like them way better than most SUV's or crossovers. I don't get why so many people are down on vans, especially one's on the market like this one.
Nice! We had a ‘17 Pacifica and loved the way it rode and drove. Wifey didn’t want the stigma of a minivan after awhile so we traded it for a crossover. I wouldn’t mind ridding my wimpy 1.5T Equinox and get one of these used, especially if the price is right on a used one, and so what if it’s a minivan? 🤣🤣
As someone who has looked at the tunes of Pentastar engines in HP Tuners.....there is lots of timing being pulled a lower rpms and lots of torque management. Take those out and adjust them and it really wakes the vehicle up
Love these SG reviews. This almost makes me want to but a Chrysler minivan, except wait! I hate minivans! And Chrysler! My mind is opened a bit and I do agree 100% about the utility and good sense of a minivan versus a 3 row SUV.
The ending track is so intense... for a minivan review. Another great review... if I am looking for a minivan I will be taking this into consideration.
I bought a 2001 caravan with 300k miles to escape from a pot farm in California to the midwest. That thing was great. I drove a 2015 Caravan rental for a work trip and it was the second worst road vehicle I've ever driven behind a neglected University Chevy Suburban from the 90s. The early 2000s Caravans were good if you got the V6.
I would say from the introduction of Sebring things got really bad. Mercedes took full control over Chrysler and ruined it, then left it to die. There was also this idiot Bob Eaton who came after Lee Iacocca. Eaton wanted to get a gratification fast, made a lot of bad decisions in short time, and agreed to DaimlerChrysler merger. He is also the one that made the decision to make neon's 2.0 head gasket from graphite, to save literally less than 10$ on each vehicle, while making cars unreliable.
DUDE !!! You freaked the feces out of me with that comical "GAME OVER" editing during the acceleration test. I thought I was stroking out. I thought my mind snapped. Uggh....don't scare me like that again. =)
Nice review, made me think about a minivan over a crossover. But, Chrysler's reliability record is horrendous. Turbowski around 6:00 - There's a reason Chrysler was cheaper than the competition- everything failed sooner. Around 8:00 - This is a vehicle people will buy for the long haul. No matter how brilliant it is (and the Pacifica's ideas are brilliant), if it's going to be a pile in a few years, there's no point in dropping $40K+ I wonder if this is the same old unreliable, cost cuting pig with a nice coat of lipstick. That's what would stop me from buying it. Maybe consider it after 3yr reliability ratings come out.
LOL.....Great review. I didn't see this until after we got our new Pacifica.....but yes...on everything. You pointed out the things I would, and clearly drive like I do...:D It feels like an alternate reality for me to love a Chrysler Minivan...how is that even possible? I drive a Maxima, and I drive it hard. This was for my wife.....I would rather drive it then my Maxima on any day. Should financial realities change, I would be happy with two Pacificas, perhaps when the possible AWD version comes out we shall go that way....it's that good. If a Jason Statham action movie character drove a Minivan this would be the van for his plan.
It was a good drive. The middle seats were much more comfortable than I thought they'd be, and oddly were probably more comfortable than the driver seat. I'm not sure that's a good thing. It certainly did have some hustle. The middle seat back was broken, the shitty plastic peg was bent. The power folding rear seats couldn't coordinate the lowering of the head rests with the collapsing back and got stuck half way down. There were gaps, the left trap floor didn't sit exactly right, it was as if a B crew did the whole thing. It did not engender confidence in the build, and... The one on the lot was $50fucking,000 which is completely insane. Over all we'd have picked the Sedona if we had decided on a minivan, but went with an AWD GT CX-9 instead. Been really happy so far.
I hate all minivans on Gp. I have to say I was completely impressed when I saw this on the road. In two years I might consider getting a 1 year old used Pacifica.
What attribute I didn't hear covered is the isolation of the cabin from road/tire/engine noise, a big deal for drivers/passengers as they grow older. Some of the newer and upscale trims on the Pacifica seem to emphasize it as a driver car, a performance car, a slick handler, great tire/wheel packages, etc. Does it live up to any of that superficial sizzle or bling on the outside?
I watch a lot of people driving around in a suburban or some other monster SUV. If you are not towing, then there is little need for a full size SUV. These front wheel drive minivans cut through snow very well and if you put on a set of snow tires, they will go through almost anything. A set of snow tires on their own rims will cost $1000 or less. The interior space is fantastic and the gas milage crushes any large SUV. Minivans just make sense. The sliding doors make it very easy to get in and out in a parking space that a large SUV would not even fit in. I get that some people say that minivans are just not stylish or cool, but I guess if they are willing to pay at least $10000 more, pay much more on gas and deal with trying to park a huge SUV that they are not going off road with or tow with, I will resign myself to just not understanding the large SUV phenomenon. Forget 3 row crossovers...why don't people buy wagons? I don't understand anything.
Just discovered your channel today, great stuff! Love hearing about the mechanical side of things, you just don't see that anywhere else in reviews. If you can get your hands on one, I'd really like to hear your opinions on the hybrid model. Thx
Not just level of refinement with Vee sixes over turbo fours in larger vehicles: there's a long-term reliability aspect too. The turbochargers are on boost for a greater proportion of engine run time, and thus will wear out sooner than they might on a lighter car, which demands a lower duty-cycle over, say, five years of typical driving.
I've been looking forward to this review ever since I came across your Chrysler Town & Country review. Since you're reviewing Chryslers, can you please review a Chrysler 300 (preferably any model besides the S) & the V6 Chrysler 200? I've seen so many videos with fully loaded v6 200's on TH-cam, and they actually look like they offer a ton for the price. Likewise, those same videos never have anything bad to say about them, even though the comments sections are full of negativity. It'd be great to watch some pile banter between you & Turbowski on those cars.
I had a 200 as a loaner (the airbag on my 2013 Acura TL was being changed). Actually I liked it a lot. More comfortable than my son's Camry. Very solid feel. I heard they're stopping production next year though.
Love this video but I wish you would review the 2018 limited with S package! I feel like you missed out on a lot of the really cool features that Pacifica has to offer.
Thank you for showing the under belly of the vehicle and having a mechanic look it over. I live in Canada would that under belly covers hold up in the winter months?
Chrysler's history of pathetic reliability is the only concern I'd have with this vehicle. Let's see what people are saying in late 2017 once some miles are on them. FCA really needs a solid offering, maybe this will be it.
Unfortunately the longevity on this 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid sucks. My van engine light came on every few weeks the day after I bought it used. The dealership sold it to me and it was a lemon after I got in and drive it a couple months after I bought it. Now it’s been in the shop for a month and are working with Chrysler on how to fix it. They are replacing the whole computer system and wires and harnesses. Still not completed.
"Girl farting compilation 2" this, sir, is why I love your videos. on top of Easter eggs like mentioned above, you have the ability to review a car that one may have literally zero interest in, and make me care about it within the course of a 20 minute video. kudos to you, you've got a lifetime subscriber here.
I love your presentations BUT the one very important thing that you are leaving out is Customer Service. You do an excellent job and you do it clearly. I'm interested in a Pacifica but Chrysler doesn't have the greatest reputation for quality. I need to know whether they're going to be right there for me when something goes wrong.
If you maintain them very well and don't drive as a jackass on a regular basis, they'll give you many miles of very little problems. Major issues with the powertrain and major electrical, such as the alternator will last a long time. The things i find that are problematic are rear wheel bearings and brakes, tend to wear prematurely. I had 3 generations of these minivans, a 1997, 2003 and 2012. These were the most common issues.
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21 year old me is so pissed at how much 37 year old me wants that minivan.
Be like me and think about how it will serve as a bug out vehicle, or urban boon-docking if you cant pay your rent and have to live in your vehicle for a spell, or as a great place to haul your long guns, targets, shooting table, chairs, cooler full-o-beer (not that I'm promoting shooting and drinking mind you. . . "cough-cough"). A great way to carry mountain bikes, gear, and people to the trail head. A way to haul "big stuff" from lumber, to furniture, appliances and do it on a level that competes with a truck (except for hauling 'dirty stuff'). A more comfy alternative to a stripped down utility van.
Johntyson just don't get it. This video is a novel advertising and an attempt to get guys like you who won't be sold by traditional TV advertising.
Mightz Of Glory Jesus tap dancing Christ. Proof positive that any comment section is an internet garbage dump. What we have with your comment is a perfect example of a person of minimal intelligence attempting to sound intelligent by stitching words together in a sentence without applying any ACTUAL critical thinking. Save your horse shit for your conspiracy theory forums. I have three kids, a wife, and two dogs. I like this van because it's a logical and useful tool I could use to get ourselves and our copious amounts of shit from point A to point B. When I was 21, all I had was a hangover and a stack of student loans that could bankrupt a small nation and I thought minivans were for thirty something suburban moms and dads that had mailed it in. Now I am one. Hence, my original comment. And subsequent inability to suffer fools. Goodnight
You are kidding right? We hate plenty of FCA vehicles to their core. But this is a huge step forward for them gotta give credit on that.
savagegeese
The most important feature to consider while purchasing a 2017 year family vehicle should be safety features such as collission mitigation braking.
Adding a bunch of screaming kids to our everyday drives that are already full of distractions can be quite overwhelming.
These safety features that are slowly becoming standard these days can save lives and limbs.
It is standard in the 2017 Toyota Highlander and a thousand dollar option on all trim of the 2016 Honda Pilot.
I agree with you 100% that people who need real passenger space and utility should stick to minivans. However people with just one or two little children can get easily get by in a mid-size SUV, without feeling like a van driving chump.
I appreciate the engineering of the disappearing seats, but do people really need a full flat floor cargo van? It's quite neat, but I don't see this as the most in-demand feature.
It was also weird to see you recommend this van despite the problem-prone 9 speed ZF. Just because it is a great improvement upon a Chrystler product, doesn't make it a great family buy. Problem-free transmission and safety features are not too much to ask if you look at other choices these days.
I just watched a 20min minivan review. I made it about 6min in to the Vehicle Virgins Dodge Viper ACR review. Great job G.
Brian Ross all you need to know is that he was driving both a Lambo and a V10 M5 in college while his parents payed for an engineering degree from UM he will never use. Like you said an astonishingly un-relatable douchecanoe.
This is what I am talking about. Finally someone agrees that minivans and estates are better than SUV/CUVs
i think most auto enthusiasts agree with you on this notion
You still cant beat them for comfortable road trips and I like to go on road trips
@@halflife352011 agreed, love my minivan for road trips. Most comfy.
Every single review gets better and better, not just the quality of editing, but Turbowski loosens up and talks more, you guys are getting into deeper details... Everything gets better with every video. Nicely done guys.
"I like the butt crack down the middle." -Scott 2016
The Pentastar engine in this generation and the 2016+ Grand Cherokee have the 2 stage variable valve lift (not just timing) system. i.e. Chrysler's version of VTEC. This helps provide the strong top-end power. Also has cam phasing for variable timing, which is something the Honda SOHC J-series V6s don't have. Pretty advanced stuff. With an aftermarket intake you would hear the crossover point engage. Amazing engine.
I like this channel so much that I just watched a Chrysler Pacifica review.
180kmi on my 05 Odyssey. Raised a family with it, used it for dog hauling, stuff hauling, moving, as well as hauling my entire kart racing setup to the track with it. 3.5L engine was bulletproof and plenty of power. Handling was on par with most sedans. I often tell people that minivans are the best all around and most practical vehicles on the road. If you look at the 'big picture' of your car ownership life, you'll get it. Nice to see Chrysler did away with the monstrosity of direct injection which means that this might be a vehicle I'd consider buying used at some point.
I just came here to say that this was the best review of a vehicle I’ve ever seen. I actually enjoyed watching start to finish. Great job!!
This is the best review I’ve seen on the Chrysler Pacifica. He really went into more detail about this awesome van. I’m definitely sold. No crossover for my family!!
A car enthusiast just recommended a minivan...
I'm sold.
I don't care about the van, I just come for the quality of the video lol
Brilliant Review! just got a new Pacifica, Touring L Plus with 18 inch rims and Touring Suspension (the other option was an Odyssey)...it's actually real fun to drive, has some good kick to it, seating is comfortable in every row...never thought I would own a minivan...but with the family growing I am so glad I got one. SavageGeese has by far some of the best automobile reviews ever! keep up the awesome work!
+Ali Syed Thanks and glad you overcame the nonsense people make up that mini vans suck its really a great vehicle for practicality. Hopefully it stays reliable.
Ali Syed what made u decide pacifa over the kia sedona ? Would like your thoughts if you test drove it
savagegeese Mr. geese ... What did you like better ?the kia sedona or the Pacifica? ..trying to convince the wife that this two options will be better than a flex what do you think?
I'm pretty sure the you can't remove the middle row in the Kia
Bravo! Fantastic video! I've been watching dozens of used car TH-cam minivan reviews. I have never seen another review that put the minivan up on a hoist. You are to be commended for this over whelmingly detailed superb video!
9 speeds are obsolete, the next Pacifica will have a 22 speed transmission.
ChrisLonewalker with overdrive
Brad_0 Yes, how could I forget overdrive? Thanks Brad!
ChrisLonewalker Made by Shimano
ToxicHorsePucky or takara.
ChrisLonewalker Single speed reduction gears will replace multi speed transmissions.
BY far and away the best review yet. The detail he adds is amazing. He brings the van to a mechanic.....amazing. Keep up the good work.
I agree with your comment about the crossovers. My wife and I had a look at this today in a showroom, and I sat in the third row and it was so comfortable and I'm 6'2" and 140lbs. All the switch gear felt excellent and the quality was first class. The seats were so comfortable. When the time comes to buy a new minivan, we'll be getting one of these. Fantastic size for taking our two dogs about in. And with the Uconnect system, you can start the car from your phone. Plus my wife liked the 911 button on the mirror and the assist button, just like Onstar. Chrysler have done a fantastic job.
I hope FCA hooked these two up.....this review had me pricing one and I dont like or even need a minivan
Wow, makes me want a van. Your videos are always worth watching even though I am not in the market, it lets me know what to look for and what options I should expect for a given segment! Great work!
They are sharp looking vans. Gotta remember that this is a vehicle for moms to haul kids in. My wife still loves her ancient grand caravan that we raised our family with. We may get one of these someday when they are used for about $10K and the long term issues become known. It may have good performance and such but in reality they will spend their lives putting around at 35mph to school and soccer games. Does it really need 9 speeds? No. 4 or 5 would be fine and eliminate constant shifting. Constant shifting concerns me for longevity and the 3.6 clattering at startup is worrisome. I wonder if they fixed that. Touchscreen everything is also a concern. It may work for 5 years but how about at 10-12 years? Will this be a money pit?
I'm 25 without kids and I want this van after watching your review.
17:12 GIRL FARTING COMPILATION??? WTH MAN? :DDDD
Great review newertheless ;)
best soundtrack when driving...
ROFL This is why I love his channel
I just saw that hahahaha, did you borrow that cd from Turbowski?
It's a Chrysler van review. Too bad he didn't hit the volume button.
😂😂😂😂
This is by far the best review of this car. SO glad Chrysler did such a great job on this car. This review made me subscribe to your channel. Great job!
FCA should have given this van awd to steal suv buyers. Most SUV buyers want awd even if they do not need it.
+Blake Swan You have a good point.
+ssavagegeese I mean I know those in the know would just be winter tires and your fine. However the majority dont like cars and think awd helps them stop faster in snow as well. See every SUV in ditch. Like you I have always championed the mini van but it seems like automakers still do not get the market. Everything on this van is great, except lack of AWD. Sorry just frustrates me as i have recommended this and the Kia Sedona and am always immediately asked if they are awd.
Neezy Ko I hope so. I think this could kill the market with awd. The hybrid is just dumb given how it compromises the van-ness by losing the store and go seating.
Neezy Ko Good to know. The Sienna also now has the most HP in its segment with the bump in output from the revised v6. But its soooo ugly. I know thats subjective but man do I think that is the ugliest car and im the guy that loves the spindle grill on Lexus. Never realized that Chrysler actually changed the integrity of the seats but would make sense that the stationary seats are more comfortable. Good points
Supposedly the seats in the Pacifica are more comfortable.
It's an amazing car if you have kids. Traded an Acura MDX for it and can't believe I waited so long.
And I get to drive a tuned GTI to work, so everybody wins. Right tool for the job, right?
Thanks for this review, it convinced me to get one.
It is so nice to see a review where they actually know what they are talking about.
What I like about it among many things is the choice to see the oil temp, trans temp etc on the instrument cluster center info area. Some of us like to know those things. It can give you a heads up if things are on their way out like high temp etc. I guess hat sounds stupid maybe but I like to know what’s going on with my engine.
I guess you can say the Pacifica is .... Vantastic. . . . Boom
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I like it. The problem is that Chrysler has a terrible reliability record.
True I think they are working on it. When I purchased my Cherokee in 2001 I was prepared for massive reliability problems. They never came. My jeep now has 300,000 miles on it. Original trans and engine.
I would get an extended Chrysler warranty. When it was about to expire if I had no problems keep on motoring. If I had problems sale with 1 year left on the warranty.
10tenman10 Depend on how you treat it. I have a Town and Country (2005) that has over 300k and its only had the hubs and radiator (other small things) replaced...
There are tons of Dodge / Chrysler minivans still on the road with tons of miles on them... he's right about alot of the quality on some of the stuff and certain things failing at 80 to 120k. The parts for them are very inexpensive and easy jobs.
The market segment that tends to have purchased these sometimes as the 2d, 3rd or 4th owner tends to be a segment that also does 0 maintnance on anything until its actually broken. even the old ones for the cost were good minivans.
The new ones look like they have learned some lessons and made quite a few improvements
@@xhizzous My only concern is the ZF transmission that’s been unreliable in every car it’s been inside
6:19 that is why I had no problem with the previous gen Town and Country. The price was so much lower that the Toyota and Honda, I had no problem replacing in my case the radiator, right front break caliber, alternator, power steering reservoir, Brake Master Cylinder, oil and tranny gasket and brakes of course by 100k miles.
Yes, you get what you pay for and I was still way ahead on the $$$.
Once I saw the goose shirt I knew I was in for a treat. Very Well done 👍
So what happened with the cop?
Excellent review. Here in Australia, the Grand Voyager was priced around $75k - big money next to Euro vans. Then I rode in my friends one in 2004. Even as a 9 year old in a brand new car I shuddered at the panel gaps, acres of shiny plastic and poor ride - I'm glad to hear they woke up.
Great review. If my Mazda5 ever takes a crap, I will be picking up one of these. One question: I have never seen your reviews touch on safety features/ratings/crash test results - any reason why? Seems viewers, especially ones interested in family vehicles, would value your feedback on this.
Never thought I'd watch a review on a Minivan, but I love you analysis and commentary.
You definitely deserve way more subscribers and views. The quality in unreal.
Great review. I've seen at least 12 and this is by far the best I've seen. I just ordered and will pick up tomorrow a 2017 Touring L with 16,000 miles. Really looking forward to getting rid of my 2015 T&C with 195,000 miles. Thank you!
Well done, mechanic talk is priceless need more of that in every review.
Just picked up a 2020 this review is spot on it’s an amazing vehicle and with the s package looks very sleek!
First review I've seen where they put it up on a rack and really go thru the motor. Plus the test drive is real , like I'd be drivivg. Suscribed!! Boogers🤣
This fantastic minivan is only missing the AWD option. Thanks.
Oh it's coming in 2021 model real soon
I believe the 2020 launch edition also has AWD
It’s now an option on ‘21 & up Pacificas
I kinda wish I had this back in high school, seems neat for hanging out.
I appreciate the thoroughness of the review; especially since we are about to get one. Thanks!
I love how his videos are of such high quality and professionalism, and then you see "Girl Farting Compilation" on the radio.... You are sitting there like "Wow, this is actually a nice van", and then it just appears... and you just laugh your ass off. This is why I can't help but wonder how he doesn't have more subscribers.
I went from a grand caravan to a new 4Runner. I had it a year and sold it. Minivan is in my future. The Sienna hybrid is top of my list.
A big determinant between buying a minivan vs.a three row crossover, is AWD availability of crossovers. 70% of the US receives snow in winter, and the use of wide, low profile tires on modern car's, don't plow through the snow like the old narrower, higher profile tires with softer rubber did, even with front wheel drive. I'm also not convinced of the strength of Aluminum for the front control arms, especially on cars this heavy. I'd rather have solid iron ones, regardless of any handling or weight penalty. Savagegeece: Thanks for testing an average vehicle, us car lovers don't all love sports cars.
They’ve added the availability of AWD to Pacifica for ‘21 & up
Well damn....It's about time a great van came to the market. Great review man.
Hopefully those quality improvements will lead to reliability improvements. Because Chryslers in my household certainly have not been reliable with fit and finish and electronics. But our 88 did stay in the family for 15 years. But our 94 had transmission problems after only 70k miles. That being said, I would need to lease one of these newer ones and see how they fair before I am comfortable enough to buy one with the thought of keeping it.
drove my 2015 m3 to chrysler dealer, and test drive pacifica, steering wheel really felt the same. And i bought it without thinking of looking at other models
Wow! I really liked this honest review! Great job!
Wow I've been binge watching some car review channels because I have no life however out of all the reviewers I have to say these guys are the best and compare them to saablyke and Alex on autos anyways can u guys make a video on the 2017 Nissan armada I might get this car for my self but I want your guys professional opinion first
+Daniel Siuffe Thanks appreciate that, glad the reviews are good. I will ask for Armada if they have it
honda and Chrysler should've went for zf 8 speed instead but they thought they could fix the issues with the 9 speed through software..that worked well for them lol...
honda is working on a regular 10 speed auto and a 11 speed three clutch trans.
I just bought a just bought a 2019 Touring L yesterday to replace my 2010 Town and Country - there is no comparison between the two vehicles.
I will say this about three row crossovers (I also have a 2015 Dodge Journey) - they make a great second vehicle. I use my Journey as my daily driver, and it's big enough to haul my family (4 kids) in a pinch. I would never consider it for regular family use just because it doesn't have the size of a van.
The Pacifica though? I haven't seen anyone say anything bad about it anywhere. The 3.6L Pentastar has been around since 2011. It's also in a LOT of Mopar vehicles. Other than the 2011 rear cylinder head problems (which were recalled and corrected), I haven't heard of any widespread issues with it. The Advanced SafetyTec Group - I can not say enough good things about it, and I've only got 15 miles behind the wheel with it. You just don't realize how good it is until you drive it, and then drive something else without it.
3.6 had rocker arm issues, but those were solved around 2015
I have been binge watching all of your videos man. Your review quality is ridiculous for how many subscribers you have. Keep doing what you’re doing, please.
If they made a Jeep version of this with a Dana 44 and 35s I'd buy it. Call it the Jeep Herder or something. It's like an Element on the inside, no obstacles, etc.
I was looking to trade my big sedan for this pacifica. Gets better highway mpg too. You helped me make my decision. Thanks. Still have my GTI for just me time.
A GREAT QUALITY Video. I enjoyed watching it.
Totally agree, coming from a 3 row and a pretty spacious Saturn Outlook (GMC Acadia) We looked at every make and model that would fit our family with 3 rows. We were determined not to own a minivan and now a blue Pacifica Limited takes the place of our SUV.
I rented this vehicle for a week and drove long and short distances, its a very well seated vehicle with superior gadgets. However, i did notice the brake system failure light came on twice (it was rental) it drove very well and buying USED i have no worries on cost:)
I like your tone and calmness in these videos. You can curse at me and I will still be listening.
I'm a 33 year old man with a family and vans are the best, I like them way better than most SUV's or crossovers. I don't get why so many people are down on vans, especially one's on the market like this one.
Nice! We had a ‘17 Pacifica and loved the way it rode and drove. Wifey didn’t want the stigma of a minivan after awhile so we traded it for a crossover. I wouldn’t mind ridding my wimpy 1.5T Equinox and get one of these used, especially if the price is right on a used one, and so what if it’s a minivan? 🤣🤣
As someone who has looked at the tunes of Pentastar engines in HP Tuners.....there is lots of timing being pulled a lower rpms and lots of torque management. Take those out and adjust them and it really wakes the vehicle up
Love these SG reviews. This almost makes me want to but a Chrysler minivan, except wait! I hate minivans! And Chrysler! My mind is opened a bit and I do agree 100% about the utility and good sense of a minivan versus a 3 row SUV.
The ending track is so intense... for a minivan review. Another great review... if I am looking for a minivan I will be taking this into consideration.
My biggest question mark is Chryslers reliability and working with the service department.
+Qu4ttro agreed, its an unknown.
There's honestly nothing wrong with these new minivans, it's the early to mid 2000's which gave them a bad reputation lol
I bought a 2001 caravan with 300k miles to escape from a pot farm in California to the midwest. That thing was great. I drove a 2015 Caravan rental for a work trip and it was the second worst road vehicle I've ever driven behind a neglected University Chevy Suburban from the 90s. The early 2000s Caravans were good if you got the V6.
Why do I read the comments on old videos? I have no life.
I agree with Saturnday, I own both 3rd and 4th gen Caravans, they are great.
I would say from the introduction of Sebring things got really bad. Mercedes took full control over Chrysler and ruined it, then left it to die. There was also this idiot Bob Eaton who came after Lee Iacocca. Eaton wanted to get a gratification fast, made a lot of bad decisions in short time, and agreed to DaimlerChrysler merger. He is also the one that made the decision to make neon's 2.0 head gasket from graphite, to save literally less than 10$ on each vehicle, while making cars unreliable.
DUDE !!! You freaked the feces out of me with that comical "GAME OVER" editing during the acceleration test. I thought I was stroking out. I thought my mind snapped. Uggh....don't scare me like that again. =)
6:28 Scott taking shots at 90s Chrysler lol
Nice review, made me think about a minivan over a crossover. But, Chrysler's reliability record is horrendous. Turbowski around 6:00 - There's a reason Chrysler was cheaper than the competition- everything failed sooner. Around 8:00 - This is a vehicle people will buy for the long haul. No matter how brilliant it is (and the Pacifica's ideas are brilliant), if it's going to be a pile in a few years, there's no point in dropping $40K+ I wonder if this is the same old unreliable, cost cuting pig with a nice coat of lipstick. That's what would stop me from buying it. Maybe consider it after 3yr reliability ratings come out.
LOL.....Great review. I didn't see this until after we got our new Pacifica.....but yes...on everything. You pointed out the things I would, and clearly drive like I do...:D It feels like an alternate reality for me to love a Chrysler Minivan...how is that even possible? I drive a Maxima, and I drive it hard. This was for my wife.....I would rather drive it then my Maxima on any day. Should financial realities change, I would be happy with two Pacificas, perhaps when the possible AWD version comes out we shall go that way....it's that good. If a Jason Statham action movie character drove a Minivan this would be the van for his plan.
just as chrysler pull out of the UK, they release this. we can only hope for a trailhawk variant to get that v6 over here. or a fiat badged one.
It was a good drive. The middle seats were much more comfortable than I thought they'd be, and oddly were probably more comfortable than the driver seat. I'm not sure that's a good thing. It certainly did have some hustle.
The middle seat back was broken, the shitty plastic peg was bent. The power folding rear seats couldn't coordinate the lowering of the head rests with the collapsing back and got stuck half way down. There were gaps, the left trap floor didn't sit exactly right, it was as if a B crew did the whole thing. It did not engender confidence in the build, and... The one on the lot was $50fucking,000 which is completely insane.
Over all we'd have picked the Sedona if we had decided on a minivan, but went with an AWD GT CX-9 instead. Been really happy so far.
I hate all minivans on Gp. I have to say I was completely impressed when I saw this on the road. In two years I might consider getting a 1 year old used Pacifica.
That fucking Metal Gear game over part. Fucking lol
What attribute I didn't hear covered is the isolation of the cabin from road/tire/engine noise, a big deal for drivers/passengers as they grow older. Some of the newer and upscale trims on the Pacifica seem to emphasize it as a driver car, a performance car, a slick handler, great tire/wheel packages, etc. Does it live up to any of that superficial sizzle or bling on the outside?
Exactly....
In my case I chose to go with the Kia Sedona 8 pax SXL
Not regretting it at all, and even proud to have it over any sub $50k SUV
Every 30sec, I was laughing and screaming "... but it's a f*** minivan !!!"
I watch a lot of people driving around in a suburban or some other monster SUV. If you are not towing, then there is little need for a full size SUV. These front wheel drive minivans cut through snow very well and if you put on a set of snow tires, they will go through almost anything. A set of snow tires on their own rims will cost $1000 or less.
The interior space is fantastic and the gas milage crushes any large SUV. Minivans just make sense. The sliding doors make it very easy to get in and out in a parking space that a large SUV would not even fit in.
I get that some people say that minivans are just not stylish or cool, but I guess if they are willing to pay at least $10000 more, pay much more on gas and deal with trying to park a huge SUV that they are not going off road with or tow with, I will resign myself to just not understanding the large SUV phenomenon.
Forget 3 row crossovers...why don't people buy wagons? I don't understand anything.
You can actually close/open the sliding doors by pressing the button on the handle - even less effort than pulling the handle!
Just discovered your channel today, great stuff! Love hearing about the mechanical side of things, you just don't see that anywhere else in reviews. If you can get your hands on one, I'd really like to hear your opinions on the hybrid model. Thx
Not just level of refinement with Vee sixes over turbo fours in larger vehicles: there's a long-term reliability aspect too. The turbochargers are on boost for a greater proportion of engine run time, and thus will wear out sooner than they might on a lighter car, which demands a lower duty-cycle over, say, five years of typical driving.
not even close
I really enjoyed the analysis of the engine and the underside of the car. Also I hate turbos just like you. Great review.
Could you do an Outlander or an 2017 highlander? It would be appreciated.
love the song on the screen
UConnect has always been my fave.
Based on my experience and you plan to keep it beyond the monthly payments. Buy the Chrysler Max Care Lifetime warranty (if available)
I've been looking forward to this review ever since I came across your Chrysler Town & Country review. Since you're reviewing Chryslers, can you please review a Chrysler 300 (preferably any model besides the S) & the V6 Chrysler 200? I've seen so many videos with fully loaded v6 200's on TH-cam, and they actually look like they offer a ton for the price. Likewise, those same videos never have anything bad to say about them, even though the comments sections are full of negativity. It'd be great to watch some pile banter between you & Turbowski on those cars.
I had a 200 as a loaner (the airbag on my 2013 Acura TL was being changed). Actually I liked it a lot. More comfortable than my son's Camry. Very solid feel. I heard they're stopping production next year though.
Love this video but I wish you would review the 2018 limited with S package! I feel like you missed out on a lot of the really cool features that Pacifica has to offer.
great video!! subscribed. also i just purchased one for my wife as a Christmas present. she loves it!
+bryman31 Still may favorite van, hope it stays reliable for her.
I like that you wrote iTurboski
As you established before the i makes it intelligent.
+Shane Linetty Glad you read into that.
Great Detailed Review. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for showing the under belly of the vehicle and having a mechanic look it over. I live in Canada would that under belly covers hold up in the winter months?
and now the 2021 Pacifica is going to have all wheel drive (AWD) it can easily replace all other competition.
I came as soon as I saw a Chrysler!
I came
I love minivans but I need four wheel drive and better ground clearance. I'd honestly rather have a minivan.
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!!!!! i just can't wait for a new upload!!!
Chrysler's history of pathetic reliability is the only concern I'd have with this vehicle. Let's see what people are saying in late 2017 once some miles are on them. FCA really needs a solid offering, maybe this will be it.
Unfortunately the longevity on this 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid sucks. My van engine light came on every few weeks the day after I bought it used. The dealership sold it to me and it was a lemon after I got in and drive it a couple months after I bought it. Now it’s been in the shop for a month and are working with Chrysler on how to fix it. They are replacing the whole computer system and wires and harnesses. Still not completed.
"Girl farting compilation 2"
this, sir, is why I love your videos. on top of Easter eggs like mentioned above, you have the ability to review a car that one may have literally zero interest in, and make me care about it within the course of a 20 minute video. kudos to you, you've got a lifetime subscriber here.
I love your presentations BUT the one very important thing that you are leaving out is Customer Service. You do an excellent job and you do it clearly. I'm interested in a Pacifica but Chrysler doesn't have the greatest reputation for quality. I need to know whether they're going to be right there for me when something goes wrong.
If you maintain them very well and don't drive as a jackass on a regular basis, they'll give you many miles of very little problems. Major issues with the powertrain and major electrical, such as the alternator will last a long time.
The things i find that are problematic are rear wheel bearings and brakes, tend to wear prematurely.
I had 3 generations of these minivans, a 1997, 2003 and 2012. These were the most common issues.