OLD STEAM POWERED MACHINE SHOP 18 Progress on the steam engine
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- Video 18 in a series showing how things were done in a 1925 machine shop under steam power. This installment continues with remachining parts to rebuild the 1910 Morris Machine Works vertical steam engine. Questions and discussion about steam power, line shaft power and old machine work are always welcome.
This is really a calm slow down channel, where is boring not boaring! Happy new Chips to the shop from Germany
This series is fast becoming one of my favorites on youtube, its so interesting to see someone keeping old technology and techniques alive, but not in a stuffy museum way. I especially enjoy the parts where you show doing repair jobs on equipment how it used to be done, I've watched every episode this far and look forward to many more in the future.
I have seen all these machines working but never on a line shaft with steam. Very kool
Just wanted to say hello from Long Island. I just wish you did more videos. Why? because they're great.
That's the beauty of having a steam powered machine shop, David. It will always give you the side benefit of keeping you warm on those cold winter days!
As always It is such a pleasure to sit watch you ,Happy holidays
Thanks Ralf....Dave
That work shop is my dream! I'm so jealous!
That old boring bar! Grandad said he had bored cyls with a hand crank setup, I believe he said it was a Rottler. If I remember correctly, he said it was a horrible experience.... Took him to the shop I was working in, back in the late '70's. He'd been retired many years by then. Soon as I opened the door, he said "well the smell hasn't changed any in all these years" I showed him the Rottler we had there, it was a table type, and the head floated on the table over the block to be bored, centered, and then clamped with an air clamp via a T slot. Then we went over to the Sunnen ck-10 hone. After we left, he said that If he'd had this modern equipment, he'd have made good money instead of just getting by. Thanks for posting these videos, enjoy the warmer weather in Florida, and hurry back to You Tube!
Fascinating as ever. Enjoy your winter break. Much appreciated.
The coldest winter I've ever had was in southern Oregon where it rained all day and was below freezing at night. Being from Los Angeles I just couldn't get used to it. Understand why people head south for the winter. Really enjoyed the video Dave. We had a war surplus Brown and Sharpe shaper in metal shop. I thought it neat that it only needed a tool bit and you could take the tool post and put it on a lathe. Thanks for posting.
Sure can, but you don't need the rocker on the shaper.
Thanks for all the awesome videos Dave. It feels like I'm back in time seeing true American craftsmen turning out parts for service on equipment. I hope you continue to make more informative videos and still make a decent profit to keep your shop running. All the best for 2017.
Thanks Alberto, it's been fun so far...Dave
Thank you for preserving and keeping this equipment operating. This is so much better than just seeing equipment like this in a museum. Thank you for sharing this video.
Thanks for the video. I'd really like to see that old boring bar in action. Looks like the grandaddy of my 1935 Van Norman.
Funny I was just wondering if a vertical mill and fly cutter would be allot faster than the shaper. But I was also already wondering if that wasn’t newer tech than 1925. But then ya answered me before I needed to ask. Read my mind a couple years in advance.
Great work and thank you MUCH for showing us these gems!!
Great videos Dave. Gives me flashbacks when I was a kid (early 50s). Hurry down here it's 76.
It's snowin again here.....Dave
Thanks very much for taking the time to make this video and the others. It is great to watch your work and narration, which I greatly enjoy.
I am very impatiently waiting for the next video.
Thank you for all the great video's!!!!!
David, this channel makes me happy every day. I love what you have done here and the preservation of these machines is critical.
I would happily donate to keep these going.
Again, awesome job, just plain amazing.
Laurence, I'll keep them running, you keep watching and asking questions...deal?....Dave
Winter is quickly approaching MN and after seeing your cold shop, I am more appreciative of having the luxury to just flip a switch to bring the heat up and another switch to energize the lathe. Always love the music made by your engine and flat belts. Thanks much for the engine update and have a safe trip south.
Really great video, enjoyed it very much, I still enjoy listening to the clock ticking, I'm thinking of putting one up in my shop😊
Gotta have a clock ....Dave
Your shop represents a great step back in time in a country that seems to want to throw everything away when it gets old. Beyond the obvious wonders of your shop is that you keep the shop so well organized and clean, a rare thing to find on most of the TH-cam shop videos. Congrats on your housekeeping.
I had a shop teacher way back when that always said not to blame a machine for poor quality of work, the quality comes first from the machinist who knows how to use his tools. But I could never figure out how we came from machines in the 1800s that measured in tenths of an inch to machines today that measure in microns. How does a low accuracy machine produce a machine with higher accuracy, any ideas? Thanks for all our efforts, I am sure that all of us watching appreciate your work.
Thanks Dave, It's the only way I can find anything.......Dave
very cool shop i love it . i never knew those shops were still in use thanks for the great video !
That's awesome. I have a bunch of tools that were my dads and I think of him everytime I use them. Thanks for sharing
Same here....DSave
Hi Dave,thanks for showing the boring tool, hopefully you will be able to demo it in the near future. Have the best possible Christmas. Pat
This is amazing. Wish we had shops like this around.
I enjoyed that an awful lot--Dave you keep making them and I will keep watching them...
Thumbs up from me.....
Excellent as always Dave. I found that boring bar very interesting. Reminded me of the Van Norman boring bar I used in the 70s while reconditioning car engines for 4 years....excellent machine.
Enjoy your time down south :)
Hi Malc, I have a 777S Van norman, about 60 years old. I bet I've bored 1,000 cylinders with it. Great machine, still made practically the same....Dave
Very interesting Dave - so you know exactly what I'm talking about...and every one spot on. As you say, definitely a great machine, one of the best I've ever used.
Your machining community is a tight group, giving you the gifts that they do.
Have ever seen or heard of the Ford Museum? It in Dearborn Michigan, it has steam driven pumps used for draining the coal mines in England. I'm confident James Watt had his hand in on it. Thanks for another great video.
Great vid! Can't say why but watching a planer working is a joy to behold, fascinating!!!
I would love to see you teaching !!you have a wealth of knowledge Dave!
hey Dave thanks for the grate videos I I have a passion for old Machine Tools and tools in general I believe I live real close to u I'm in Johnson city NY I couldn't believe all the time I have been watching your videos I never looked at your about to see where in NY u were located thanks for the grate videos again I look forward to the next one
Probably 5 years ago now, there was a guy who would setup a belt a pulley shop at the Murry County Antique Tractor show. He would have drill presses, grinders, and other things all powered by a little stationary engine. It was a really nice display and fun to watch and imagine.
Watching the shaper do its thing is mesmerizing... Thanks!
Nice Christmas present! you deserve it for all the hard work you've done bringing these fine educational programs for us to enjoy and learn from.Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!Be safe.
david what great videos nice work going back in time .
I really enjoy these videos! Thanks for the hard work and commitment to sharing this.
Thank you for the great vidios; looking forward to the next - merry christmas !
Great stuff - thanks for going to the effort to put these videos out! It's really interesting to see a small scale steam power system for a shop like that. I had to go re-read some history to get some context. Rural electrification in the US didn't have a big push until the mid-1930s and that wasn't just individual farms - lots of smaller towns didn't have electricity. We weren't "fully electrified" nationally until some time in the 1950s.
True Tom, This little town had 3 saw mills, feed mill, International Harvester plant, monument shop, and Borden's Dairy processing plant in the 20's all steam and water powered....Dave
It would be a nice dream Shop to have! Nice, way to keep the tools working!
The whole thing is a work of art, Dave. When I saw the snow outside I was wondering when you were hitting the trail to Bluehairville. So don't get sunburned down there and send us folks here in the freeze zone a video once in a while!
Man, that shaper is a monster.
You say the weather stinks but it looks beautiful to me. Where I live it doesn't snow and the humidity is so high when it gets cold occasionally it feels like you're going to freeze to death due to the moisture in the air stealing your bodies heat like a thief in the night.
Moving parts are fascinating to me
I don't know the process or implications involved, but your shop should certainly be on US Registry of Historic Places!
Just love everything about your shop and how you are sharing it with your many worldwide viewers.
Best wishes to you and your family for a Merry Christmas and Health and Happy New Year!
Roy
Buffalo, NY
Hello Roy, Thanks for the comment, stay warm, it;s coming, but in Buffalo you know it well.......Dave
David Richards - Enjoy the warm weather for a few months! R
Sir I would like to say I find what you are and have done in your shops very commendable. To keep a way of life that was before and a way to achieve a outcome of work in the simplistic ways is very cool. You are a very good of an example of, how you can achieve and do work that is accurate and simple,with out the must have tech knowledge of today. To make repairs or build. Thank you, if I could I would give you more support to keep your channel and way going.
Thankyou Kyle I apreciate that, I am trying to create interest and pass on some knowlege. Your viewing and comments are the support. Thanks......Dave
Thanks, Dave. Also appreciate seeing shaper work. Have fun down south.
I really enjoyed the mockup of the engine. Happy hollidays from Palmyra Missouri!
Enjoyed it David, it's good to see the engine coming together with some nice new and reconditioned parts. It's looking pretty good, looking fwd to the day we see it run. Keith
David,I worked as a maintenance mechanic 45+yrs . repaired piston and rotatry pumps those always called packing followers not nuts.
Thanks again Dave, all the way from New Zealand - where it is summer but not v warm atm. Your editing is getting pretty slick, wish mine was as good. Keep up the great work for us all.
I felt like a kid on Christmas Day in anticipation of what's in the box. I felt I was really there wanting to reach out to keep that box from sliding which it actually did.
Fascinating,thanks from N.Ireland.Enjoy your Christmas.
Glad to hear from you over there....Dave
I always enjoy your videos Dave. Merry Christmas, and enjoy your winter in Florida.
Very nice, thanks for sharing.
Always enjoy your videos would love to see your shop some day and funny that your coming to warm up in my neck of the woods I'm in Bradenton fl. Merry Christmas to you and yours look forward to the next video
Just a great video throughout, fabulous pictures, great audio and narration. I just love it!
What great gifts!!
Merry Chrostmas and a Happy New Year, enjoy the warmer weather in Florida.
Merry Christmas to you Dave, your family and your "apprentice" Tom and thank you for sharing.
Enjoyed every minute ...The cylinder boring bar is interesting ,It would be neat to see it in use on an old Model A block...Have a Merry Christmas !!!
Sounds like the plan, Merry Christmas to you too......Dave
Excellent as usual.
It's exciting to see the progress on that engine
Good to watch -as ever ,Thanks
Merry Christmas dave, looking forward to the next one!! Happy new year to all
BTW- love that old (red)steam driven water pump. You don't see too many of those any more.
Thanks for the awesome work and making the video.. I like the sounds made by the steam engine, belts, pulleys, etc. in your shop. Have a great holiday..
Enjoy the sunshine, from my family to yours a very merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Have fun where it is warm! I always appreciate some good shaper action. I would love to have one for cutting internal splines.
Are you sure you don't have one around there that you've forgot about?....Dave
David Richards
I will have to check around the barns. lol
Brian, do you think about a shaper ?
I hope there is enough space left in your "small" barn when your "little" boaring mill sit in the new shop. ;- )
One machine more, is one more you must repair, think about it.
Actually my 15" shaper needs a repair, a pin is broken. I need more time, more time , more time.........
Every project i start opens 3 more.
Schwellenzaehler
Projects breed projects!
Baily burried it.
Thanks for the shaper demo. Glad to see you spend the winter in a warmer climate. Opening the boring tool was just like Christmas I bet it renued many model T fords. Hope to see some footage from Florida it would be a distraction from the great white north.
Maybe Ts, As, Chevys, REOs, Stars, Nashes, Overlands, Saxtons and anything else that got dragged in the shop in 1925.....Dave
Merry Christmas Dave! Cannot tell you how much I enjoy these. Great great stuff!
Looks great. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
Bonjour David,
Happy New Year ! Your work starts looking like a steam machine !
I will be happy to go on following your videos, I like seeing real life machining.
Amicalement, Raphaël
Best wishes for Christmas from the UK thanks for the video looking forward to the recond steam engine up and running
Merry Christmas and happy new year Dave ,and thank's for all your hard work educating all your students
Thanks for watching Norm...Dave
I love those old lighting fixtures you've got, fluorescent lighting wouldn't look right in your shop, you've got good taste.
Yeah, but Tom thinks we need more light. Maybe hotter bulbs....Dave
I would try with those glass-bulb warm white LEDs atleast on top of stuff, and it helps if you just put more ligth at the roof so it won't ruin the "feel"
Hello David, good job as always. Merry Christmas in Florida and take care of you. Thank you for making these videos for us with good explanations. Me, I stay with the snow!
Hi David, I've enjoyed watching your videos. I have a series on my channel about building a small scale live steam loco. With regards to the squared off ends to the piston and valve glands it's to prevent the soft packing material extruding along the rods with the backwards and forwards. I've found a 45 degree chamfer could increase that likelihood and shorten the life of the packing. Jonathan
Hey Dave, you have a great Christmas also!! Enjoy sunny Florida and no fender benders in 2017!! HD
Hi Dave, Come on, a little lake affect snow and you run south. Were having a few inches tonight in the lower Hudson Valley tonight, but after the 1st I'm going farther south than FL. Liked that cylinder borer, let's see it do it's thing. The shop in Gasoline Alley had a Kwik-Way.
your shaper is really cool! i love your shop and your great videos!
what a generous gift of a boring rig! unbelieveable!
Fascinating as usual. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Merry Christmas, Dave! I was wondering when you were going to escape the snow in NY. Now I know. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Herb, com'on down for awhile....Dave
It's
looking good David!
that shaper is one neat machine.
Thank you David.
You made my day.
Greetings Henk van der Wal
Same here Henk...Dave
Thanks for another great video Dave. Hope you have a happy and safe holiday season in Fla and really hope to run into you at next years Canandaigua Pageant of Steam. Fred Ontario, NY
Thanks Fred, plan to be there...Dave
Thanks for the nice videos David. I hope you have a Very Merry Christmas and a Wonderful New Year. I'll be looking for the next one!
We stayed at the Unterallgaeu (Bavaria
Germany) still have no snow.
With us the sun is shining at + 2 ° C.
I hope that this remains so. I hate snow and cold.
Greetings Franz
Love the videos , I seen in the background when you were running the Bridgeport there was cylinder hone machine, I think we getting cheated on full shop tour ..... love the videos thank you
Sir, Love your shop. On you rebuilt engined you might try using a "zerts" fitting to be used with a grease gun. This would keep the dust out.
Dear David
Another great video. It's very enjoyable watching you work on that steam engine and start fitting it up, while I do the same with the specimen I have..
I don't know if you have ever heard of this website, but might I suggest looking up "Preston Services ". This is a place in England that is essentially a "store" that sells steam engines and related parts! They sell everything from full sized railway locomotives, through stationary steam engines (lovely!), road steam (traction engines, portable engines, steam cars and steam rollers), marine engines (including whole steam ships!), steam-electric generator sets, steam turbines and all sorts of engines in the "Model Engineering" sizes, as well as all the spares you can think of. I would love to walk around their facility. If I was a millionaire, I'd give my credit card a damn good workout (although the shipping would be a killer given the typical weights of steam stuff!!).
Best Wishes
Paul
My real name is Michael McCluskey. I love seeing old machinery.
Great shaper action!
You have a good Christmas also.
Keep that snow there.
Mike
Fastenal Third Party Logistics. Love them, and they're cheap. Had a lathe shipped to me as well as my 1/3 scale Case castings. You just have to pick your box up at a Fastenal location, but they seem to be everywhere. I think your TH-cam channel is great. Please keep the videos coming.
Jeremy
Are you building a 1/3 scale 150 HP Case from Emanual Bieler's patterns?....Dave
No, the usual 65 HP version. Been working on all the gears when I find time here and there. Still trying to work a deal for a set of 1/2 scale 110 HP Case castings a fella has. A 150 HP version would be great.
Jeremy
Hi, Jer!
I like your 1930's battery powered drill. LOL
Hi David,
Always look forward to your videos. Thanks for all the shaper footage, interesting to see how it was done and to see it used on this restoration.
Sorry about all the snow. Any time for videos from your winter headquarters?
Have a safe trip.
Joe
The Morris is starting to look good. Looking forward to seeing it steamed for the first time in ?? years.
I was wondering if you were going to be bugging out for winter. I find myself dreaming of doing the same, every time the arthritis wakes me up at night.
I wish I had a big ole boiler to keep me warm in my shop...
Merry Christmas to you and your family David. . .
Something tells me you were expecting, in your surprise package, something like an Underwood portable cylinder boring bar and not what you actually received. When I first watched this video that is what I was expecting.
Day 37 of me looking at that shaper and thinking, man. I can make that thing it's so brilliantly simple. It's just chunky goodness.
used one a lot like that in my high school automotive shop. I always keep my eye open but I have not seen one at a swap meet.
Merry Christmas, Dave!