For those not on the know: "Top wo Nerae" is the original name of Gunbuster, a sci-fi mecha anime that took things way too far since it actually started as a parody of another anime called "Ace wo Nerae", which was about tennis.
@@naiknaik8812 At least that's what I call it when they go into black-hole-powered starships and relativistic effects like time dilation and whatnot. All of that, while considering that the very first scene in the anime shows a bunch of mechas doing FREAKING PUSHUPS! I call that going too far.
Its really amazing how far Subaru has come as a streamer. From being a normie with almost no knowledge of streaming/internet culture, to having 1.2M subscribers and a very loyal following, her willpower and energy really is something to behold. She said it's got to be hard for Gen6 since they have so much expectations and pressure to deal with, but being one of the trailblazers in the vtuber scene, an unsure and unfamiliar environment, then succeeding; is an equally noteworthy achievement.
When Subaru celebrated having 20k subs, it was a big achievement. During those times, when vtubers are not that popular and Hololive is not that well-known and was still just starting, it was similar to having 1M subs in today's Hololive standards. During those times, 50k subs was such a huge achievement that they originally used it a goal to reach so that the company would give them their own 3d models which was also a huge thing because Tokino Sora, the one and only, was the only Hololive member who had debuted with a 3d avatar so it's like having a 3d model is a rite of passage for the talents in some way and would also give more meaning to the upcoming 3d models other than being able to see them move. These moments of happiness that the early generation of hololive experience with their subs count seems pale in comparison to what we see now, but it's actually kind of amazing to see how their channels grew over time and you can see how much more significant each milestone for them knowing how they celebrated a milestone that is not even 1% of what they have now. Also, imagine how it feels to have been one of those 200 people to have regularly watched subaru and sees this clip. It would be like having a nostalgic walk down the memory lane with a childhood friend. Similiar to being one of the 13 knights of Sora-chan, along with the other OG Soratomos who have supported Sora-chan in carrying the whole of Hololive for half a year, before Roboco-san's debut that was followed by the talents we know today.
When you said it like that, it brings memory that I remember when ID girls at that point too (I got to the rabbit hole because of Iofi at that time) and it really an achievement when they finally reach 40K subs and it really something, and after several month later that every girl that debut always reach 100K milestone around 1-2 weeks, probably that is why I rarely feel the same hype (for new gen but still happy about it) at least until they reach milestone around 500K to 1M sub
One of the best traits to have in life is a good perspective, like Subaru. Without it, aka, most people, nagative things really bog down like a truck, but if you have a realistic-optimistic perspetive like Subaru, even the tiniest thing can make your day. I strive to build this appreciation everyday, I'd doubt it would reach Subaru level which I presume is caused by her tough life experiences. Ya know what they say, if you're at rock bottom, the only way left to go is up.
That last part got me thinking how different the experiences are for the girls. Subaru, along with the other girls from her generations and the ones before her, managed to build the reputation of Hololive from the ground up. Subaru started with 200 viewers (and the girls before her started with even less), but she grew that following to the massive 20k+ she has now and that was a really wild ride. That's an experience the new girls won't ever have as members of Hololive and even if something happens and they graduate, they'll still have a huge following. Even though the girls now are required to have experience, so they probably know what it's like to start small, as kouhai they can't experience growing the brand name and they have to ride on the success of the massive effort the previous generations put in. I imagine the respect they have for their senpai must be massive and that really brings home to me the enormous respect everyone has for Sora. I think this is what a certain "Dawg" was trying to get at a while back, but like the dubmass he is, he focused on the "how lucky of them" side of the analysis
@@javierchamorro8988 how is it dumb when its true? nobody who has joined recently had to earn their 100k subscribers, they just got that and more in only days just for being in hololive lmao
There’s also the consideration that later members requirements are higher. Bigger organisation asks for more experience, higher qualification and there would be tons of other candidates fighting for a spot. As one of them, perhaps Subaru herself, has commented, that they probably wouldn’t get through the selection process if they apply now. While I admire Subaru hard work and improvement, I think that statement is correct. Subaru started with pretty small channel, not much experience, not much skill to speak of. The last average singer in Holo JP was K…Coco, and she brings other values to the table. All of the 5th and 6th gen members are decent to exceptional at singing. EN wise, Fauna and Ame are the only ones who aren’t very good at singing. The bar had been raised, there’s no “lucky to join”, they have to out qualify other candidates for their slot. Even an accepting and easy going organisation like Niji shifts through their candidates list. Early gen went through a lot, but it wasn’t just them who were rolling the dice, it was the organisation as well. They took a chance on a few wild cards, and it worked out. Miko was supposed to be closer to an idol, but she evolved out of that. So were Suisei, Okayu Korone Mio Fubuki gang, Matsuri, Aki and especially a young Haato. Those “diamonds in the rough” would also need to be found and polished.
@@sweetjesus4061 Its a really dumb take cause even if the newcomers have like 100k+ subs on debut, if they fucked up or are not interesting enough those numbers will surely goes down. Hence the amount of pressure is very high for them to keep on the same level of high performance expected by the viewers.
Someone say Subaru is fairly normal, this assure me that Subaru is weird from the beginning 😂. But damn seeing her since that ASMR to now feels really surreal.
Aside from her having no tech experience when she started, there was also a lot less fanart to use for thumbnails. Nowadays HoloX had a flood of options even before debut. I think you did good, Shuba.
I just love her. She and Watame both, I can't quite put my finger on what it is about their personas that I find so ... hm, attractive? That's not really the right word for it. Maybe charismatic? But neither of them are particularly charismatic imo. I guess attractive works, just platonically in this context. Anyway, they're both so earnest, and I think that's what appeals most to me about them. Kiara has a good amount of this dynamic too. I fell into the rabbit hole with zero knowledge of (or really any understanding of) anime or really any stereotypical weeb-y stuff. I think that it was a clip of one of Korone's english-only mario streams that the algorithm fed to me and then suddenly every video on yt seemed to be hololive-related. Regardless, I enjoy many of their fellow holomems, but Subaru and Watame are probably the two I find most appealing, even if I don't necessarily watch their streams given the language barrier and time differences, etc. They're both funny enough, fun enough, blah blah blah, but what I think is best about them are they are so earnest and diligent. I'm not one for over-psychoanalysis, but I know they've both been through some turmoil and, shall we say, adversity in their personal lives, and I wonder if that factors into their very diligent personalities. They mean what they say, they try to say what they mean, they try hard for their fans, and they go the extra mile, not because it's necessarily expected, or because it will net them greater gains etc., but because it seems to be hardwired into them as the "right" thing to do. At least, that's how they come off anyway. They both feel like they're ride or die type of people. I don't know how this turned into an essay. Shouldn't have written while high. Anyway, shuba shuba
hmm.. for me, in case of subaru. i think if in a class she is one of the most approachable and easygoing person in said classroom. so, instinctively you just attracted to her. she is the only one I watch the archive even though I don't really know Japanese that well. she is a fun girl to be with
"Gen 6 have it rough too for having to perform in front of so many people". That's true, maybe that's why the selection process is getting more and more tougher. I think now Hololive only accept at least a seasoned content creator. Maybe that's why it took one and a half year from gen 5 to gen 6.
This is incredibly fascinating to me since I sorta gained a passing interest in Hololive at around when 3rd Gen was the latest batch of members and Hololive's momentum was already on the up and up
i still remember that time where she uses the same face for thumbnails on many occasions and managed to slip by unnoticed until Towa pointed it out, it exactly went unnoticed for a week or so if anyone's wondering.
For Subaru's standards, surviving half a year is already a success. PS: I've seen some Vtubers that can barely have more than 20 people during their streams, sometimes is just matter of luck, but Subaru has truly worked hard for the subscribers she has, and I'm happy she kept streaming during her first half despite having low numbers, now she has more than 1M subscribers and around 4K people watching her streams.
Subaru: "It's too painful for me to unprivate these old streams" Ahh... I thought the privated streams from that incident are still sealed because of copyright concerns. So there's a possibility that they were just too cringe for them to be released? xD Idk why Subaru tends to call her streams hell, if I had better internet I'd watch her streams all the time. (SEA internet, rural af at that, is pain shuba) If this is what hell looks like I'm gonna commit atrocites just to get there.
whoa back then, they were kinda desperate and making lots of cringy and questionable contents. Now, they could do whatever content they wanted and still attract at least 1k viewers. They all have come from long way
Ah I think this is the psychology of "nothing to lose" streamer. Since her subscribers and viewers are still small, she can just do anything without worrying too much about consequences. Brand image? What brand image lol. Also, seems like desperare attempt to get viewers by doing crazy things. She cant do that anymore. And new gen also cant do that. They now carry large burden and brand name.
She's just being super humble. Its definitely true that they could do crazier stuff back then but you could very easily lose what little audience you do have. As a small creator the hardest thing by far is getting eyes on you. Everyone after Gen 4 has had an insane foundation to work off of. Myth debuted to 80K people watching and Gen 6 had 180K. Newer Gens also have a tried and tested blueprint to work off of. They can just copy the things that brought success to the earlier Gens. The fanbase will latch onto old memes and apply it to the newer Gens. Subaru and Fubuki for example set the standard of being a duck or a cat and the gag of denying it. You now see every new member benefitting from the meme, Kiara is a "chicken", Reine is a turkey etc. I also notice newer gens taking a lot of mannerisms from Miko, Pekora and Aqua. Newer Gens have seen what get the fanbase excited and they're building off of it. Gura, La+ and Chloe are extremely good at it, they take some of the most popular tropes and put their spin on it.
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For those not on the know: "Top wo Nerae" is the original name of Gunbuster, a sci-fi mecha anime that took things way too far since it actually started as a parody of another anime called "Ace wo Nerae", which was about tennis.
The title borrows from Top Gun also
Great now I imagine Subaru as Noriko, just before facing off against tons of aliens…. Thinking how half a year have passed instead lol
I didn't know that it was a parody. So that is why it felt like a shoujo anime.
Did gunbuster really take things too far???
@@naiknaik8812 At least that's what I call it when they go into black-hole-powered starships and relativistic effects like time dilation and whatnot. All of that, while considering that the very first scene in the anime shows a bunch of mechas doing FREAKING PUSHUPS!
I call that going too far.
Its really amazing how far Subaru has come as a streamer. From being a normie with almost no knowledge of streaming/internet culture, to having 1.2M subscribers and a very loyal following, her willpower and energy really is something to behold. She said it's got to be hard for Gen6 since they have so much expectations and pressure to deal with, but being one of the trailblazers in the vtuber scene, an unsure and unfamiliar environment, then succeeding; is an equally noteworthy achievement.
“Maybe I should do remakes of Crazy streams I did back then!”
If she actually did it, it has the potential to be a trend
I want a Donald Duck ASMR remake.
i think the old gens are the one that have it rough, and holostarts too i wish all of them become succesful
Btw did you see MV song from Holostar official channel? , it nice
@@zbigbozbboy5245 theres an official holostars channel?-
@@Crobat7269 th-cam.com/video/D5_ktqaiaPw/w-d-xo.html
Subaru: By the way, you're not allowed to clip this!
Clippers: You have no power here.
To be fair the part she said not to clip not yet clipped by anyone(that i see), but gundam censor it with link so people gonna see it 😂
The true Chad Clippers would respect the vtuber's wishes. They're the news media of vtubers after all.
Subaru: Don't clip this! We can't let this dark past spread to outside this channel!
Gundamfinal: Let me introduce you a pro clipper move
Humanity is good at finding loopholes lol
Some strong "graphic design is my passion" vibes in there. 😁 But it's inspiring to see how she developed over time.
When Subaru celebrated having 20k subs, it was a big achievement. During those times, when vtubers are not that popular and Hololive is not that well-known and was still just starting, it was similar to having 1M subs in today's Hololive standards. During those times, 50k subs was such a huge achievement that they originally used it a goal to reach so that the company would give them their own 3d models which was also a huge thing because Tokino Sora, the one and only, was the only Hololive member who had debuted with a 3d avatar so it's like having a 3d model is a rite of passage for the talents in some way and would also give more meaning to the upcoming 3d models other than being able to see them move.
These moments of happiness that the early generation of hololive experience with their subs count seems pale in comparison to what we see now, but it's actually kind of amazing to see how their channels grew over time and you can see how much more significant each milestone for them knowing how they celebrated a milestone that is not even 1% of what they have now.
Also, imagine how it feels to have been one of those 200 people to have regularly watched subaru and sees this clip. It would be like having a nostalgic walk down the memory lane with a childhood friend. Similiar to being one of the 13 knights of Sora-chan, along with the other OG Soratomos who have supported Sora-chan in carrying the whole of Hololive for half a year, before Roboco-san's debut that was followed by the talents we know today.
Roboco, Miko and AzKi are 3D from the start though...
When you said it like that, it brings memory that I remember when ID girls at that point too (I got to the rabbit hole because of Iofi at that time) and it really an achievement when they finally reach 40K subs and it really something, and after several month later that every girl that debut always reach 100K milestone around 1-2 weeks, probably that is why I rarely feel the same hype (for new gen but still happy about it) at least until they reach milestone around 500K to 1M sub
Subaru is so bright it burns my cold cold heart. Please protect this girl.
So bright, so resilient, that doesnt need protection🌱✨
@@nestoreon3353 instead Subaru is the one protecting us from sadness
One of the best traits to have in life is a good perspective, like Subaru. Without it, aka, most people, nagative things really bog down like a truck, but if you have a realistic-optimistic perspetive like Subaru, even the tiniest thing can make your day. I strive to build this appreciation everyday, I'd doubt it would reach Subaru level which I presume is caused by her tough life experiences. Ya know what they say, if you're at rock bottom, the only way left to go is up.
Her eccentric family might've contributed in shaping her this way too lol.
But yes, I really love & respect Subaduck for it 👏👏 My oshi
That last part got me thinking how different the experiences are for the girls. Subaru, along with the other girls from her generations and the ones before her, managed to build the reputation of Hololive from the ground up. Subaru started with 200 viewers (and the girls before her started with even less), but she grew that following to the massive 20k+ she has now and that was a really wild ride. That's an experience the new girls won't ever have as members of Hololive and even if something happens and they graduate, they'll still have a huge following. Even though the girls now are required to have experience, so they probably know what it's like to start small, as kouhai they can't experience growing the brand name and they have to ride on the success of the massive effort the previous generations put in. I imagine the respect they have for their senpai must be massive and that really brings home to me the enormous respect everyone has for Sora.
I think this is what a certain "Dawg" was trying to get at a while back, but like the dubmass he is, he focused on the "how lucky of them" side of the analysis
I thought he said that the lucky one are the newcomers...
@@AmD-kf5ob Yeah, he said something like "how lucky of them to get into Hololive and start with 100k+ subs". Trully among the dumbest of takes.
@@javierchamorro8988 how is it dumb when its true? nobody who has joined recently had to earn their 100k subscribers, they just got that and more in only days just for being in hololive lmao
There’s also the consideration that later members requirements are higher. Bigger organisation asks for more experience, higher qualification and there would be tons of other candidates fighting for a spot.
As one of them, perhaps Subaru herself, has commented, that they probably wouldn’t get through the selection process if they apply now. While I admire Subaru hard work and improvement, I think that statement is correct. Subaru started with pretty small channel, not much experience, not much skill to speak of. The last average singer in Holo JP was K…Coco, and she brings other values to the table. All of the 5th and 6th gen members are decent to exceptional at singing. EN wise, Fauna and Ame are the only ones who aren’t very good at singing. The bar had been raised, there’s no “lucky to join”, they have to out qualify other candidates for their slot. Even an accepting and easy going organisation like Niji shifts through their candidates list.
Early gen went through a lot, but it wasn’t just them who were rolling the dice, it was the organisation as well. They took a chance on a few wild cards, and it worked out. Miko was supposed to be closer to an idol, but she evolved out of that. So were Suisei, Okayu Korone Mio Fubuki gang, Matsuri, Aki and especially a young Haato. Those “diamonds in the rough” would also need to be found and polished.
@@sweetjesus4061 Its a really dumb take cause even if the newcomers have like 100k+ subs on debut, if they fucked up or are not interesting enough those numbers will surely goes down. Hence the amount of pressure is very high for them to keep on the same level of high performance expected by the viewers.
Lady Subaru is really a dedicated hard worker. From school tomboy sports manager/captain to Regal Swan Idol.
Someone say Subaru is fairly normal, this assure me that Subaru is weird from the beginning 😂. But damn seeing her since that ASMR to now feels really surreal.
Aside from her having no tech experience when she started, there was also a lot less fanart to use for thumbnails. Nowadays HoloX had a flood of options even before debut. I think you did good, Shuba.
I just love her. She and Watame both, I can't quite put my finger on what it is about their personas that I find so ... hm, attractive? That's not really the right word for it. Maybe charismatic? But neither of them are particularly charismatic imo. I guess attractive works, just platonically in this context. Anyway, they're both so earnest, and I think that's what appeals most to me about them. Kiara has a good amount of this dynamic too. I fell into the rabbit hole with zero knowledge of (or really any understanding of) anime or really any stereotypical weeb-y stuff. I think that it was a clip of one of Korone's english-only mario streams that the algorithm fed to me and then suddenly every video on yt seemed to be hololive-related.
Regardless, I enjoy many of their fellow holomems, but Subaru and Watame are probably the two I find most appealing, even if I don't necessarily watch their streams given the language barrier and time differences, etc. They're both funny enough, fun enough, blah blah blah, but what I think is best about them are they are so earnest and diligent. I'm not one for over-psychoanalysis, but I know they've both been through some turmoil and, shall we say, adversity in their personal lives, and I wonder if that factors into their very diligent personalities. They mean what they say, they try to say what they mean, they try hard for their fans, and they go the extra mile, not because it's necessarily expected, or because it will net them greater gains etc., but because it seems to be hardwired into them as the "right" thing to do. At least, that's how they come off anyway. They both feel like they're ride or die type of people.
I don't know how this turned into an essay. Shouldn't have written while high. Anyway, shuba shuba
hmm.. for me, in case of subaru. i think if in a class she is one of the most approachable and easygoing person in said classroom. so, instinctively you just attracted to her. she is the only one I watch the archive even though I don't really know Japanese that well. she is a fun girl to be with
"Gen 6 have it rough too for having to perform in front of so many people". That's true, maybe that's why the selection process is getting more and more tougher. I think now Hololive only accept at least a seasoned content creator. Maybe that's why it took one and a half year from gen 5 to gen 6.
If we see those kind of thumbnail these days, we can immediately know it's Subaru's.
Btw, for anyone checking the og stream, go to minute 45.
You can see that from the beginning she always has interesting idea for theme to stream.
Hope we get oneyagoo soon.
This is incredibly fascinating to me since I sorta gained a passing interest in Hololive at around when 3rd Gen was the latest batch of members and Hololive's momentum was already on the up and up
OMG a Gunbuster reference! HELL YEAH!
Since timestamp is not indicated for the source of the blacked out moment, 45:19
th-cam.com/video/f10sZc90cpI/w-d-xo.html
Thank you, King
Gunbuster Subaru is epic! SUUUUPER SHUUUUUBA KIIIIIIIIICK!
I can believe Subaru as Noriko but only rest-of-the-show Noriko, not early show Noriko.
She's the kind of person who would be fun to be on the same place with
Hololive and Vtuber as a whole has gotten so far now
Back in those days, subaru's thumbnail use the same facial expression. Good times
i still remember that time where she uses the same face for thumbnails on many occasions and managed to slip by unnoticed until Towa pointed it out, it exactly went unnoticed for a week or so if anyone's wondering.
Ah yes, can't wait for the Donald ASMR Kiwami 2 remake
Subaru did the hard part; learning how to be a vtuber through trial and error.
Now everyone follows by her example.
Genius Shuba-sensai.
Thanks for the clip!
I'm feeling nostalgic now
I dont know why this old clip show up but here i am, watching a someone vtuber who only got like 20 - 50 viewer for more than a years
For Subaru's standards, surviving half a year is already a success.
PS: I've seen some Vtubers that can barely have more than 20 people during their streams, sometimes is just matter of luck, but Subaru has truly worked hard for the subscribers she has, and I'm happy she kept streaming during her first half despite having low numbers, now she has more than 1M subscribers and around 4K people watching her streams.
Subaru: "It's too painful for me to unprivate these old streams"
Ahh... I thought the privated streams from that incident are still sealed because of copyright concerns. So there's a possibility that they were just too cringe for them to be released? xD
Idk why Subaru tends to call her streams hell, if I had better internet I'd watch her streams all the time. (SEA internet, rural af at that, is pain shuba) If this is what hell looks like I'm gonna commit atrocites just to get there.
probably too painful because they need to make sure all the content is 100% safe ? so subaru just remake the part that is safe
Who doesn't cringe at their past self?
Her first hell stream is her collab with Maimoto eating Peyangu in hell literally
Subaru is whole duck in the end. But yeah Subaru shows you can consistently grow despite the VTuber saturation.
I'm a proud 2% Subatomo gang if you know what i mean
You have to learn to walk first before you can run.
whoa back then, they were kinda desperate and making lots of cringy and questionable contents. Now, they could do whatever content they wanted and still attract at least 1k viewers.
They all have come from long way
"...because I admired grandmother's Vtuber."
umm......what?
There's a vtuber Virtual Obaa-chan, literally a grandma vtubing
@@karayura10 could it be senchou before joining hololive?
She's talking about Virtual Grandma, the first vtuber that Subaru was ever a fan of.
Remaking old cringe streams is actually kinda brilliant
Ah I think this is the psychology of "nothing to lose" streamer. Since her subscribers and viewers are still small, she can just do anything without worrying too much about consequences. Brand image? What brand image lol. Also, seems like desperare attempt to get viewers by doing crazy things.
She cant do that anymore. And new gen also cant do that. They now carry large burden and brand name.
She's just being super humble. Its definitely true that they could do crazier stuff back then but you could very easily lose what little audience you do have. As a small creator the hardest thing by far is getting eyes on you. Everyone after Gen 4 has had an insane foundation to work off of. Myth debuted to 80K people watching and Gen 6 had 180K. Newer Gens also have a tried and tested blueprint to work off of. They can just copy the things that brought success to the earlier Gens. The fanbase will latch onto old memes and apply it to the newer Gens. Subaru and Fubuki for example set the standard of being a duck or a cat and the gag of denying it. You now see every new member benefitting from the meme, Kiara is a "chicken", Reine is a turkey etc. I also notice newer gens taking a lot of mannerisms from Miko, Pekora and Aqua. Newer Gens have seen what get the fanbase excited and they're building off of it. Gura, La+ and Chloe are extremely good at it, they take some of the most popular tropes and put their spin on it.