That's bizarre. Sitting in my lounge room in Perth, Australia and TH-cam presents this video to me. I grew up in Edmonton but haven't lived there for over 30 years. When I was a kid, our family camped at Klondike Valley (the location of the video, I think) and we built quite a substantial dam on the Blackmud. The water backed up behind it and swelled the creek to about 3 times it's depth. Fearing we'd get in trouble, we took it apart. Moments later the caretaker happened upon us and told us, "If you kids want to make a dam or a bridge with all that timber, you're welcome to it". Awww man!!!!
Hello Brian, fancy meeting you here. Hope you are well, say hi to Jenny for me. Not sure how this video was recommended to me either but it was interesting.
@@leonardwalsh930 Wow!! That is freaky!! We're all good, Jenny says hi and accused you of using an old photo for your profile because you look too young. She asks if you're on Facebook.
Hello from Edmonton I grew up around mill creek Ritchie area I was always playing in mill creek now there is paths to walk there I’m 51 now and still playing in the creek with my grand kids I call it going for a nature walk my kids still talk about the day when they were small . Take care enjoy your day
Yes that was the Klondike camp ground. You used to enter on the service road that goes toward the Toyota dealer and Benz dealer. Back then that road only went south a few blocks then you had to turn around. The campground closed due to Ellersie Road being widened to two lanes each way. The city had to put a new bridge to due to road widening, the south bridge is the newer of the two over black mud creek. The campground land went up to Ellerise rd when it was a two lane road. This all started 15 years ago maybe a few years before.
This place is right beside my house and me and my son go walk in there almost every day. If you’re really lucky there’s a beaver that lives in Blackmud Creek and we spotted him a few times over the years.
THANKS for Sharing :) and It also use to be a Seven Oaks GOLF Course there till it Closed Down at it was Located at 11310-30 Avenue S.W and Also the Klondike Valley Camp Ground was there too at one time till it Closed down in the Early 2000's !!
Used to be called Klondike Valley campground. We used go down there fishing back when I was kid. The creek had pike and suckers back then. Now you see the odd fish in the spring as the creek is attached to the NSR
I used to know the Lady that ran it. I did a story with videotron which was bought out by SHAW cable for their tv station. Was a beautiful little place minutes from the city but basically in the City. Now there’s tons of houses there.
We just went there last November , did some magnet fishing and metal detected some campsites . We found a 1945 nickel but that was it , I knew about this place because my family tented in the upper part when I was 3 in 1979 . Shame it's gone and dark mansions closing in more and more.
I've lived in the adjacent neighbourhood for over 20 years. I remember when the buildings were still there. They were all boarded up. Entrance was either on the left up the hill prior crossing the bridge, or up the hill after crossing the bridge. On the right hand side prior to crossing the bridge is also a playground a sand base. Crazy to see how it's all grown in over the last 20 years. At the beginning when I first found it you could definitely see all the camping stalls.
That's awesome, I know an old abandoned farm in the west end that leads to the river behind the country club golf coarse, you can find old abandoned cars and farming equipment. Tons of ancient history along the largest greenbelt that runs through a city in canada.
I just stumbled up on this video. You created some suspense thru the video, and then played hissing sounds. I thought you were going to find snakes there! So glad that you didn't! Beautiful place!
This was one of the best campgrounds in Edmonton and was usually packed with large RV’s. They even hosted weddings and family reunions. I was very surprised when it was shutdown. Located on the north side of the bridge was the check in, store and laundry. I stayed there for about a month when I first moved to Edmonton looking for work in 1995.
I grew up living about 10mins from there. Was a beautiful park in it’s day. That was when Edmonton basically ended at 23ave or the old Heritage Mall...lol
I was just a child and I remember that! 23 Ave & Calgary Trail/Gateway Boulevard was a 4 way street. Ellerslie Road was a grovel road & it was also a 4 way stop with QEII. The Blackburn cal-du-sac had a blue fence & it was “outside the city limits” -not so sure why though. And across the cal-du-sac there was a tall grain tower with “Ellerslie” on its side (must have been the name of the area before it’s dissolution & later absorbed into the city)
But I didn’t know the existence of a campground around there-I had relative that originally lived in the West End so we essentially bypassed these places. There was a time where we had drive down Ellerslie road to Terwillgar Drive (something happened to the Whitemud back then, road work, I was a kid so idk)
I saw the Heritage Mall...right before it was being taken down-back then 111 street was the quickest way to the U of A Hospital because someone I once knew was there...
I live here and thanks for the video i now i wanna look for it i never knew tb till now trying to do a mini doc on Edmonton’s fading past now, we only have 160 protected older sites and buildings... losing another building in Oliver Square area the old Standard Oil buildings are on the way out now...
I stayed there in 87 with my brother. I wonder what happened to that campground. Was there only for one weekend. It had the Klondike guy on the sign. Brings back good memories. Was only 21 at the time.
I think so. It was so long ago. Over 34 years ago and only one weekend. I remember driving by it more when I went out to Rabbit Hill to ski then camping there. But he had the big hat and pick axe. Not sure if there was a donkey or not.
@@cindypodritske5007 yep guarantee there was a donkey cuz that's the image that she was portraying for probably oh gosh 40 50 years and that was the donkey that you used to go gold mining and so he would go down the parade down Jasper Avenue
Thank you. I've rode down Ellerslie many times wanting to go down into those trails. I've worked in the area and know there's a Horned Owl around. I love finding these spots in the area, so much minor history grown over and forgotten.
Just a little west of here and a little south is the old Blackmud rv park and golf course. Or what used to be. You can just make out a couple of the holes and sites that haven't been bulldozed yet.
That’s really cool to see. Were you the one that just posted on FB about this place? Would be cool to here why the place was shut down. You’d think it would be a pretty good money maker for the city.
It's surprising that as the RV tourism industry has continued to grow all across North America the last couple of decades Edmonton has gone the opposite direction and closed public campsites permanently. This really discourages tourists from visiting and overnighting around Edmonton if they don't have relatively easy and close access to the attractions and amenities. Not everyone prefers sleeping at Walmart either. There are now only a handful of campgrounds left around greater Edmonton, some of which are mostly occupied by seasonal and long term residents only. Only some small towns and villages in Alberta are still offering local campgrounds for out of town visitors at reasonable rates. The whole concept Alberta is an RV friendly province is greatly skewed in the urban regions.
There is a provincial push to re-zone RV property so people who own land with RVs on them near lakes in Alberta are forced to get rid of their trailers and sell their property to rich people who can then build vacation homes on the land. The reason is municipalities near lakes want to charge higher property taxes on homes at lakes. My family was forced out of our 30 year use of rezoned RV property at Pigeon Lake, Alberta on the Mulhurst (township) side of the lake. We got 95% of our neighbors to sign a petition if favor of rezoning back to RV use but it was already a done deal. There will be less and less places to park trailers unless you book well ahead of time in the remaining provincial or national parks and RV parks. This really stinks but this is gentrification at its finest.
@@heatheroliver4076 well your response and awareness to this problem makes me think of a couple of other situations which have happened in Alberta recently. The first was a long term RV community near Barrhead where the residents were literally expelled not that long ago. The second was the controversial Paradise Shores RV Resort near Buffalo Lake which was preselling RV lots before they even had full approval and permitting from the local authorities leaving the buyers in limbo and not knowing if they would ever be able to use their purchases or receive any compensation for the shady deals. I am inclined to believe the Edmonton area campsites have been reclaimed by developers whom also see the land as too valuable just to park RV's on.
@@Dadcam_Can That is the way of it now. My family will be selling our land and I suspect that local developers want to subdivide 1.5 acres into smaller lots to build condo-style homes for nearby golfing at Pigeon Lake. This is also happening is Saskatchewan.
@@gailjohnston9253 what's Rainbow Valley's vacancy like during peak season? It also only offers 15A service which is not enough juice to run most big rig RV's.
Yes this was a camp RV camp ground and has been used for many years - but I have no idea why they closed it down. I would have thought someone would have purchased the land and developed it for housing or for a new highway - who knows. I live in Edmonton so this is interesting to see.
Im not sure where this is , i know where the whitemud fwy is....where about is this, south east west or north end? I lived in edmonton half my life, its pretty cool anyway
City should turn it into a klondike park with camping tent sections and walking trails and lamp posts and spruce it up a bit. So if anyone want to pitch a tent up in that little area. They can. Or go for a fun walk. Do some outdoor activities. It would be a new way of city camping.
The trees with the red berries are probably ornamental Mountain Ash. The signs are up to keep people from camping out there, because there are no safe, proper facilities to do so. I'm quite sure the land has been purchased and it will be developed as the whole area around it has been. Too bad, because it would make a beautiful park for day picnicking.
@@lukerinderknecht2982 Hete's hoping they keep it as parkland as much as possible. Edmonton is very lucky to have such ready access to such beautiful areas throughout the city.
If this became city or crown land, bill 64 stops your camping fun. Starting June 1, 21, all crown land camping will require a paid yearly pass, or pay the fine. Sadly, when I called to purchase my pass in early May, I was told there is a 90 day waiting list. We can thank the politicians, they saw we wanted freedom from restrictions, they reacted.
I went looking for information on about the closing and found city committee notes and request on the future status of RV parks in the area. Agenda Item No.: F.1.e. Camping and Recreation Vehicle Leisure Travel Recommendation: That the September 29, 2003, Community Services Department report be received for information. Report Summary This report provides a response to an inquiry about the supply of camping opportunities in the Edmonton area. Previous Council/Committee Action • At the October 21, 2003, City Council meeting, the September 29, 2003, Community Services Department report was referred to the October 27, 2003, Community Services Committee meeting. • At the August 26, 2003, City Council meeting, Councillor R. Hayter made the following inquiry: “Camping and recreation vehicle (RV) leisure travel is growing by leaps and bounds in North America and I am concerned about the adequacy of Edmonton facilities to handle this lucrative market. I would like a report indicating the camping and RV facilities available in Edmonton and how this compares to five years ago. I would also appreciate an indication of how our facilities compare to those in Calgary, and what steps are planned to ensure that the City can adequately meet the needs of those requiring campgrounds and RV parking in the future.” Report Camping Facilities in Edmonton There are 1,244 RV campsites within easy driving distance - approximately 40 km - of Edmonton (Attachment 1). Between 1998 and 2003, the supply of RV campsites in the Edmonton area increased by almost 19%. According to a 1998 compilation in the Alberta Campground Guide, about a quarter of the sites offered full service (power only, or power, water and sewer hookups). Camping Facilities in Calgary According to the same source, there are 1,040 RV sites in or near Calgary. Service level statistics are incomplete in the Guide, but 17% and probably more of the sites offered full service hookups in 1998. According to the Guide, the number of RV sites in or near Calgary declined by just over 26% between 1998 and 2003. As discussed in Attachment 1, the results from the Guide, or any campsite listing, may not include all campgrounds that are in operation. The changes over the five years for both Edmonton and Calgary may be due as much to counting procedures as to real increase or decline in the services available. What is Being Done The Community Services Department is currently conducting a detailed review of the City-owned Rainbow Valley Campground. It includes policy, legislative and land use issues relating to the City’s involvement in the provision of camping, including practices followed in other major Canadian cities. The review will also identify future options for the Rainbow Valley facility. A report and recommendations will be brought forward to City Council upon completion of the review, later this year. Background Information Attached 1. Campsites in and near Edmonton and Calgary, 1998 and 2002 2. Alberta Campground Market/Industry Analysis Background Information Available on Request 1.Alberta Recreational Vehicle Campground Development Study
Routing:City Council Delegation:J. Tustian, R. Smyth Written By:R. Keith September 29, 2003Community Services Department File: 2003CSSS97(Page 1 of 2) Attachment 1 Campsites in and near Edmonton and Calgary, 1998 and 2002 The following information is taken from the Alberta Campground Guide, which is compiled by the Alberta Hotel and Lodging Association and is distributed through Travel Alberta. As such, it is probably the definitive source on campgrounds in Alberta. As is discussed further below, there are other compilations which may include different campgrounds. The criteria used to select campgrounds in Edmonton and Calgary are those used in the Guide, which correspond to a radius of approximately 40 km centred on each city. The numbers represent the campgrounds that have been inspected and approved by the Hotel and Lodging Association for the previous years (i.e., 1998 and 2002). The same information is also available on the Internet, at www.explorealberta.com.
Several factors influence which campgrounds appear in any one campground listing. Variables include the organization compiling the list and the criteria they used, boundaries chosen for the study area, the starting point for distance measurements, whether the campground has applied to be included in a particular listing or belongs to the organization doing the compilation, the results of inspections, whether camping is the main focus of the business or only an occasional sideline, etc. There are other lists published on the Internet and elsewhere (such as Trailer Life and Woodall’s Guide) which may include different campgrounds and arrive at different totals. Rainbow Valley Campground is owned by the City of Edmonton and operated under an agreement by Snow Valley Ski Club. Klondike Valley was owned by the City and was operated by a private operator until it was closed at the end of the 2002 season, pursuant to a report presented to Community Services Committee on June 4, 2001.
Attachment 1 - Page 1 of 2 Attachment 2 Alberta Campground Market/Industry Analysis Western Management Consultants undertook a major study in 2001 for Alberta Economic Development and the Alberta camping industry. The report, Alberta Recreational Vehicle Campground Development Study, clearly states that Alberta’s RV campgrounds are more oriented towards resident Alberta campers than to outside visitors. Alberta has fewer near-urban campgrounds and generally offers lower levels of service than the highly competitive RV industry in the U.S. The Alberta campground industry is not attracting the share of the continental RV market that it might. The study suggests that to become fully competitive, Alberta campgrounds will have to be expanded to accommodate larger camping vehicles. Major investment and entrepreneurship will be required to add the types of amenities and services demanded by the serious RV traveller. The implication of the scope and magnitude of the investment required is that private industry is probably better suited to this type of entrepreneurial activity than public agencies. There is a role for provincial and municipal government, however, in terms of facilitating and encouraging these improvements, taxation and regulatory review, as well as assisting private industry associations in development of co-ordinated marketing strategies. The report presents a thorough analysis of the RV camping industry in the province, and makes a number of recommendations for action by private campground operators, industry associations and government to help Alberta attract a larger share of the continental RV camping market. Attachment 2 - Page 1 of 1
Think ABOUT the animals around that live their. Could be the first time seeing a human.. I love watching these kind of videos. Thank you for sharing and be so EVER CAREFUL.
That's bizarre. Sitting in my lounge room in Perth, Australia and TH-cam presents this video to me. I grew up in Edmonton but haven't lived there for over 30 years. When I was a kid, our family camped at Klondike Valley (the location of the video, I think) and we built quite a substantial dam on the Blackmud. The water backed up behind it and swelled the creek to about 3 times it's depth. Fearing we'd get in trouble, we took it apart. Moments later the caretaker happened upon us and told us, "If you kids want to make a dam or a bridge with all that timber, you're welcome to it". Awww man!!!!
Thanks for sharing. A cool story.
Hello Brian, fancy meeting you here. Hope you are well, say hi to Jenny for me. Not sure how this video was recommended to me either but it was interesting.
@@leonardwalsh930 Wow!! That is freaky!! We're all good, Jenny says hi and accused you of using an old photo for your profile because you look too young. She asks if you're on Facebook.
Brian, yes sort of, tell her I sent a Friend request :)
Hello from Edmonton I grew up around mill creek Ritchie area I was always playing in mill creek now there is paths to walk there I’m 51 now and still playing in the creek with my grand kids I call it going for a nature walk my kids still talk about the day when they were small . Take care enjoy your day
It's amazing how quickly nature takes over, once a property is abandoned. Thank you for taking us on this walk with you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for posting - due to COVID-19, I am trying to explore locally. What a lovely area.
Me and my Brothers along with our friends would go camping there as teenagers. So much fun. That was back in 1975.
I spent a lot of time in childhood walking/biking the Whitemud Creek trails. I enjoyed this.
@@JohnCarlsen-xv7sf Thank you very much! Glad it brought some great memories.
we camped there in the early 80's when we went to west ed mall. i remember that name sad to see it gone,
An interesting find a few years back. Did not know it was there until we walked in.
Yes that was the Klondike camp ground. You used to enter on the service road that goes toward the Toyota dealer and Benz dealer. Back then that road only went south a few blocks then you had to turn around. The campground closed due to Ellersie Road being widened to two lanes each way. The city had to put a new bridge to due to road widening, the south bridge is the newer of the two over black mud creek. The campground land went up to Ellerise rd when it was a two lane road. This all started 15 years ago maybe a few years before.
Great background info. Thanks!
This place is right beside my house and me and my son go walk in there almost every day. If you’re really lucky there’s a beaver that lives in Blackmud Creek and we spotted him a few times over the years.
Yup, my family and I camped there years ago. Brings back memories
Sameee lol
Guess that was out of the city not to long ago
THANKS for Sharing :) and It also use to be a Seven Oaks GOLF Course there till it Closed Down at it was Located at 11310-30 Avenue S.W and Also the Klondike Valley Camp Ground was there too at one time till it Closed down in the Early 2000's !!
Very cool!
@@LyndonsAdventures. Yes it is :)
Very interesting scenery to watch 👍
Glad you liked it!
Used to be called Klondike Valley campground. We used go down there fishing back when I was kid. The creek had pike and suckers back then. Now you see the odd fish in the spring as the creek is attached to the NSR
I used to know the Lady that ran it. I did a story with videotron which was bought out by SHAW cable for their tv station. Was a beautiful little place minutes from the city but basically in the City. Now there’s tons of houses there.
I'll be checking this out soon. Thanks for the heads up!
I remember Klondike Vally when I was a kid. Used to camp there
Sounds like some fun times.
We just went there last November , did some magnet fishing and metal detected some campsites . We found a 1945 nickel but that was it , I knew about this place because my family tented in the upper part when I was 3 in 1979 . Shame it's gone and dark mansions closing in more and more.
I've lived in the adjacent neighbourhood for over 20 years. I remember when the buildings were still there. They were all boarded up. Entrance was either on the left up the hill prior crossing the bridge, or up the hill after crossing the bridge. On the right hand side prior to crossing the bridge is also a playground a sand base. Crazy to see how it's all grown in over the last 20 years. At the beginning when I first found it you could definitely see all the camping stalls.
That's awesome, I know an old abandoned farm in the west end that leads to the river behind the country club golf coarse, you can find old abandoned cars and farming equipment. Tons of ancient history along the largest greenbelt that runs through a city in canada.
I'll have to check that out.
Very cool, thanks for sharing! The danger sign is a bit mysterious. How is it dangerous? We may never know.
Thanks for stopping by.
I just stumbled up on this video.
You created some suspense thru the video, and then played hissing sounds.
I thought you were going to find snakes there! So glad that you didn't! Beautiful place!
Only garter snakes in Edmonton 😉
This was one of the best campgrounds in Edmonton and was usually packed with large RV’s. They even hosted weddings and family reunions. I was very surprised when it was shutdown. Located on the north side of the bridge was the check in, store and laundry. I stayed there for about a month when I first moved to Edmonton looking for work in 1995.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the location! I live close to there, definitely going to check it out!
Cool
Yes, It was definitely a camp ground, my parents came to Edmonton to visit in 94 and camped there for a week and it was a very nice spot.
Thanks for sharing!
I grew up living about 10mins from there. Was a beautiful park in it’s day. That was when Edmonton basically ended at 23ave or the old Heritage Mall...lol
I was just a child and I remember that!
23 Ave & Calgary Trail/Gateway Boulevard was a 4 way street. Ellerslie Road was a grovel road & it was also a 4 way stop with QEII. The Blackburn cal-du-sac had a blue fence & it was “outside the city limits” -not so sure why though. And across the cal-du-sac there was a tall grain tower with “Ellerslie” on its side (must have been the name of the area before it’s dissolution & later absorbed into the city)
But I didn’t know the existence of a campground around there-I had relative that originally lived in the West End so we essentially bypassed these places.
There was a time where we had drive down Ellerslie road to Terwillgar Drive (something happened to the Whitemud back then, road work, I was a kid so idk)
I saw the Heritage Mall...right before it was being taken down-back then 111 street was the quickest way to the U of A Hospital because someone I once knew was there...
Awesome video- very interesting
Thank you!
Not what i expected to see today! Thats a neat spot, might have to check it out one day.
noticed this video is doing really well, ill share on facebook to keep the momentum going.
Thank you!
AB Archives should have old air photos that will show how this area looked before...
Wow......I lived on the north side for 20 years and never heard of this. Cool.
Nice for walking! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for visiting
I live here and thanks for the video i now i wanna look for it i never knew tb till now trying to do a mini doc on Edmonton’s fading past now, we only have 160 protected older sites and buildings... losing another building in Oliver Square area the old Standard Oil buildings are on the way out now...
I stayed there in 87 with my brother. I wonder what happened to that campground. Was there only for one weekend. It had the Klondike guy on the sign. Brings back good memories. Was only 21 at the time.
You mean Klondike Mike that used to be the mascot for Klondike days who happens to be my mom's brother which is my uncle here in Edmonton Alberta
I think so. It was so long ago. Over 34 years ago and only one weekend. I remember driving by it more when I went out to Rabbit Hill to ski then camping there. But he had the big hat and pick axe. Not sure if there was a donkey or not.
@@cindypodritske5007 yep guarantee there was a donkey cuz that's the image that she was portraying for probably oh gosh 40 50 years and that was the donkey that you used to go gold mining and so he would go down the parade down Jasper Avenue
Thank you. I've rode down Ellerslie many times wanting to go down into those trails. I've worked in the area and know there's a Horned Owl around. I love finding these spots in the area, so much minor history grown over and forgotten.
Thank you! It's fun discovering these places.
Those trees with the red berries are mountain ash. The birds will strip them bare come winter.
Shame that campground is no longer in use. Looks like a great spot to come and enjoy nature.
It looked like a great place back in the day.
I've been there.
Great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed
Just a little west of here and a little south is the old Blackmud rv park and golf course. Or what used to be. You can just make out a couple of the holes and sites that haven't been bulldozed yet.
Was that the 7 Oaks Golf course you’re talking about?
@@robertmcdonald9738 Not to my knowledge. It was the Blackmud Golf and Rv resort
@@robertmcdonald9738 Actually you are correct! I forgot all about the 7 oaks! Blackmud was further west on 156st. South of Jaegre ridge
@@shauncollard5594 I lived 5mins from there. I’m surprised there’s anything left of the old course! That area has changed so much. Kinda sad in a way.
Thank you. Did not know this.
Some memories get buried so deep you forget they were there
Cool stuff on your channel.
Thank you!
Nice adventure take care
Very nice
Thank you!😄
Somebody please help meeee!! How do I get there though
Currently under the bridge
We will check this out!
Beautiful
Great job interesting update of padt
That’s really cool to see. Were you the one that just posted on FB about this place?
Would be cool to here why the place was shut down. You’d think it would be a pretty good money maker for the city.
Sadly probably not as much as developing the area surrounding it. Though that might not be the reason it closed originally.
What’s the coordinates to the area?
I live around edmonton where is this? I wanna go explore it I’ve only been on the city for a couple years
I've put a link to the location in the description box.
@@LyndonsAdventures. I didn’t even notice, thank you so much
cool
It's surprising that as the RV tourism industry has continued to grow all across North America the last couple of decades Edmonton has gone the opposite direction and closed public campsites permanently. This really discourages tourists from visiting and overnighting around Edmonton if they don't have relatively easy and close access to the attractions and amenities. Not everyone prefers sleeping at Walmart either. There are now only a handful of campgrounds left around greater Edmonton, some of which are mostly occupied by seasonal and long term residents only. Only some small towns and villages in Alberta are still offering local campgrounds for out of town visitors at reasonable rates. The whole concept Alberta is an RV friendly province is greatly skewed in the urban regions.
There is a provincial push to re-zone RV property so people who own land with RVs on them near lakes in Alberta are forced to get rid of their trailers and sell their property to rich people who can then build vacation homes on the land. The reason is municipalities near lakes want to charge higher property taxes on homes at lakes. My family was forced out of our 30 year use of rezoned RV property at Pigeon Lake, Alberta on the Mulhurst (township) side of the lake. We got 95% of our neighbors to sign a petition if favor of rezoning back to RV use but it was already a done deal. There will be less and less places to park trailers unless you book well ahead of time in the remaining provincial or national parks and RV parks. This really stinks but this is gentrification at its finest.
@@heatheroliver4076 well your response and awareness to this problem makes me think of a couple of other situations which have happened in Alberta recently. The first was a long term RV community near Barrhead where the residents were literally expelled not that long ago. The second was the controversial Paradise Shores RV Resort near Buffalo Lake which was preselling RV lots before they even had full approval and permitting from the local authorities leaving the buyers in limbo and not knowing if they would ever be able to use their purchases or receive any compensation for the shady deals. I am inclined to believe the Edmonton area campsites have been reclaimed by developers whom also see the land as too valuable just to park RV's on.
@@Dadcam_Can That is the way of it now. My family will be selling our land and I suspect that local developers want to subdivide 1.5 acres into smaller lots to build condo-style homes for nearby golfing at Pigeon Lake. This is also happening is Saskatchewan.
Not really, we have the Rainbow valley campground now.
@@gailjohnston9253 what's Rainbow Valley's vacancy like during peak season? It also only offers 15A service which is not enough juice to run most big rig RV's.
Yes this was a camp RV camp ground and has been used for many years - but I have no idea why they closed it down. I would have thought someone would have purchased the land and developed it for housing or for a new highway - who knows. I live in Edmonton so this is interesting to see.
Thanks for viewing!
Im not sure where this is , i know where the whitemud fwy is....where about is this, south east west or north end?
I lived in edmonton half my life, its pretty cool anyway
Thanks for coming over. Location can be found in the description.
It looks really pretty for a camping spot. Even if they say it is not for rec use.
City should turn it into a klondike park with camping tent sections and walking trails and lamp posts and spruce it up a bit. So if anyone want to pitch a tent up in that little area. They can. Or go for a fun walk. Do some outdoor activities. It would be a new way of city camping.
2:06 what you call touch-me-not are jewel weed and the seeds are edible and nutty flavored.
Satellite view on Google maps makes it all come to life
Reasonably sure it was Klondike Valley campground?
Happy Valley
Had a weekend family reunion there years ago.
Look how fast nature reclaimed it
(other than the path)
It seems to be coming back.
Good spot for stealth camping with Steve Wallis
Interesting
Why on earth would anyone down vote this?
The trees with the red berries are probably ornamental Mountain Ash. The signs are up to keep people from camping out there, because there are no safe, proper facilities to do so. I'm quite sure the land has been purchased and it will be developed as the whole area around it has been. Too bad, because it would make a beautiful park for day picnicking.
That is too bad.
@@LyndonsAdventures. I'm hoping they keep it as part of the existing wildlife ssnctuary/trail system in the city.
Sure hope not, it's mostly zoned metropolitan recreation, agriculture and public park according to maps.edmonton.ca
@@lukerinderknecht2982 Hete's hoping they keep it as parkland as much as possible. Edmonton is very lucky to have such ready access to such beautiful areas throughout the city.
If this became city or crown land, bill 64 stops your camping fun. Starting June 1, 21, all crown land camping will require a paid yearly pass, or pay the fine. Sadly, when I called to purchase my pass in early May, I was told there is a 90 day waiting list. We can thank the politicians, they saw we wanted freedom from restrictions, they reacted.
That appears to be a red elderberry-berries tree
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That was a old hornets hive. Not wasps
How do you know? What’s the visual difference between the nests?
I would give up my 9-5 life, abandons society and live a life of a hobbit here.
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Get rid of the family of beavers before they ruin this area
I went looking for information on about the closing and found city committee notes and request on the future status of RV parks in the area.
Agenda Item No.: F.1.e.
Camping and Recreation Vehicle Leisure Travel
Recommendation:
That the September 29, 2003, Community Services Department report be received for information.
Report Summary
This report provides a response to an inquiry about the supply of camping opportunities in the Edmonton area.
Previous Council/Committee Action
• At the October 21, 2003, City Council meeting, the September 29, 2003, Community Services Department report was referred to the October 27, 2003, Community Services Committee meeting.
• At the August 26, 2003, City Council meeting, Councillor R. Hayter made the following inquiry:
“Camping and recreation vehicle (RV) leisure travel is growing by leaps and bounds in North America and I am concerned about the adequacy of Edmonton facilities to handle this lucrative market.
I would like a report indicating the camping and RV facilities available in Edmonton and how this compares to five years ago. I would also appreciate an indication of how our facilities compare to those in Calgary, and what steps are planned to ensure that the City can adequately meet the needs of those requiring campgrounds and RV parking in the future.”
Report
Camping Facilities in Edmonton
There are 1,244 RV campsites within easy driving distance - approximately 40 km - of Edmonton (Attachment 1). Between 1998 and 2003, the supply of RV campsites in the Edmonton area increased by almost 19%. According to a 1998 compilation in the Alberta Campground Guide, about a quarter of the sites offered full service (power only, or power, water and sewer hookups).
Camping Facilities in Calgary
According to the same source, there are 1,040 RV sites in or near Calgary. Service level statistics are incomplete in the Guide, but 17% and probably more of the sites offered full service hookups in 1998. According to the Guide, the number of RV sites in or near Calgary declined by just over 26% between 1998 and 2003.
As discussed in Attachment 1, the results from the Guide, or any campsite listing, may not include all campgrounds that are in operation. The changes over the five years for both Edmonton and Calgary may be due as much to counting procedures as to real increase or decline in the services available.
What is Being Done
The Community Services Department is currently conducting a detailed review of the City-owned Rainbow Valley Campground. It includes policy, legislative and land use issues relating to the City’s involvement in the provision of camping, including practices followed in other major Canadian cities. The review will also identify future options for the Rainbow Valley facility. A report and recommendations will be brought forward to City Council upon completion of the review, later this year.
Background Information Attached
1. Campsites in and near Edmonton and Calgary, 1998 and 2002
2. Alberta Campground Market/Industry Analysis
Background Information Available on Request
1.Alberta Recreational Vehicle Campground Development Study
Routing:City Council
Delegation:J. Tustian, R. Smyth
Written By:R. Keith
September 29, 2003Community Services Department
File: 2003CSSS97(Page 1 of 2)
Attachment 1
Campsites in and near Edmonton and Calgary, 1998 and 2002
The following information is taken from the Alberta Campground Guide, which is compiled by the Alberta Hotel and Lodging Association and is distributed through Travel Alberta. As such, it is probably the definitive source on campgrounds in Alberta. As is discussed further below, there are other compilations which may include different campgrounds. The criteria used to select campgrounds in Edmonton and Calgary are those used in the Guide, which correspond to a radius of approximately 40 km centred on each city. The numbers represent the campgrounds that have been inspected and approved by the Hotel and Lodging Association for the previous years (i.e., 1998 and 2002). The same information is also available on the Internet, at www.explorealberta.com.
Several factors influence which campgrounds appear in any one campground listing. Variables include the organization compiling the list and the criteria they used, boundaries chosen for the study area, the starting point for distance measurements, whether the campground has applied to be included in a particular listing or belongs to the organization doing the compilation, the results of inspections, whether camping is the main focus of the business or only an occasional sideline, etc. There are other lists published on the Internet and elsewhere (such as Trailer Life and Woodall’s Guide) which may include different campgrounds and arrive at different totals.
Rainbow Valley Campground is owned by the City of Edmonton and operated under an agreement by Snow Valley Ski Club. Klondike Valley was owned by the City and was operated by a private operator until it was closed at the end of the 2002 season, pursuant to a report presented to Community Services Committee on June 4, 2001.
Attachment 1 - Page 1 of 2
Attachment 2
Alberta Campground Market/Industry Analysis
Western Management Consultants undertook a major study in 2001 for Alberta Economic Development and the Alberta camping industry.
The report, Alberta Recreational Vehicle Campground Development Study, clearly states that Alberta’s RV campgrounds are more oriented towards resident Alberta campers than to outside visitors. Alberta has fewer near-urban campgrounds and generally offers lower levels of service than the highly competitive RV industry in the U.S. The Alberta campground industry is not attracting the share of the continental RV market that it might.
The study suggests that to become fully competitive, Alberta campgrounds will have to be expanded to accommodate larger camping vehicles. Major investment and entrepreneurship will be required to add the types of amenities and services demanded by the serious RV traveller.
The implication of the scope and magnitude of the investment required is that private industry is probably better suited to this type of entrepreneurial activity than public agencies. There is a role for provincial and municipal government, however, in terms of facilitating and encouraging these improvements, taxation and regulatory review, as well as assisting private industry associations in development of co-ordinated marketing strategies.
The report presents a thorough analysis of the RV camping industry in the province, and makes a number of recommendations for action by private campground operators, industry associations and government to help Alberta attract a larger share of the continental RV camping market.
Attachment 2 - Page 1 of 1
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Me and my Brothers along with our friends would go camping there as teenagers. So much fun. That was back in 1975.
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