I haven't drummed in like, almost 4 years now. I was able to get to 160 and I was pretty proud of that, especially since I was a mallet player during marching band.
@@nayelicarvajal8342 rudiments, because they apply to almost everything you play. if you can play all 40 clean with accents and everything. and if you can learn them alternating the. you can play nearly anything
@@nayelicarvajal8342 You don't need all 40 rudiments. You can skip the X stroke rolls beyond 6. You still need to be able to play rolls of any length, but beyond 5 you are just counting rather than practicing different rudiments. You can skip all the combinations of paradiddles + drags + flams. Just practice paradiddles, flams, and drags. There are an infinite number of combinations of these things beyond what's in the official 40 rudiments. Skip the ratamacues. Basically I'd concentrate on the following: single stroke roll (various lengths) double stroke roll (various lengths) paradiddles + paradiddle-diddles flam taps + maybe flam inverts accent taps (flam accents without the flams) flam accents + any other combination of moving flams, accents, and drags around. swiss triplets Also I think the key to playing some of these "rudiments" well is breaking down each hand individually. For example, play just the right hand of a flam accent or a flam drag and then just the left hand, and see if it sounds consistent on each hand. Chances are when starting out, one hand is going to be weaker, and focusing on your weak hand is going to give you better results. If you get proficient playing those things in different combinations, you will be able to play everything else. You don't actually ever need to know what a pataflafla is or to even know it was one of the 40 rudiments to be able to play it. In fact I just had to look it up right now. It is still important to be able to play it. It's just not more important than the myriad of other things similar to it that don't have names. In drumline we actually had an exercise that started with 6 variations of these, which is the reason I can play them and other things like them.
here's a fun take on this: change the alternate sticking to RLL or LRR. so now instead of a roll, you get a 2-4 rhythm RRLLLL or LLRRRR I've seen this rhythm pop up pretty often in WGI music
I’m new to marching snare from always having played concert snare. Simple things trick me, so I am unsure the sticking for this. Is it just RLR LRL RLR LRL for every measure?
@@sorsorscience0787 the diddle marks are the lines through the notes. so you would play 2 notes in correct time for that partials respective sticking. Sorry if that was confusing
I'm new to snare and teaching myself, how do you roll just one note like that? Do you just let the stick rebound on that note? Also dude what the hell is a diddle lol. I know what a paradiddle is but everyone's talking about chops and diddles and all this crap.
a "diddle" is just another way of saying a "double stroke." you just let the stick rebound for a second hit. so a "paradiddle" is pretty much a mnemonic of saying the strokes. pa-ra-diddle = RLRR or LRLL chops just refers your current skill level, and how easily you can play certain rhythms or rudiments. for example, I max out at about at 180 bpm mark for this exercise, so I don't quite have the "chops" to play this any faster at the moment.
You’re correct, a slash through the note stem means you play two notes in the space of the slashed note. Slashed notes are played using doubles. A slashed 8th note means you play two 16ths, a slashed quarter note would mean two 8ths, and so on
How do you know if it’s triple rolls of diddle rolls or single roll? Plz reply Edit: ignore my stupid comment I didn’t know crap, now I know there is something called double stroke roll
Diddles are just hitting twice in one stroke. You push the stick down and use a controlled bounce to make it hit twice instead of once. If you’re playing at a slow tempo, it might be easier to use your wrist to just push them out, but if you’re playing a little faster, you’re going to want to let the bounce do a lot of the work. They take some practice, but they aren’t as hard as they may seem.
They were meant to be, but a true musician can bend the meaning of exercises and use them to improve almost anything. Ignore the other commenter and use the exercise for what YOU need it for. You can double stroke to practice diddles. You can single stroke to practice faster single speeds. You can add in crescendos and decrescendos every four bars to practice dynamics. The possibilities are endless and it’s up to you to decide how you want to practice. Please ask any questions you have and do not be discouraged by the low percentage of people who have a problem with people being unsure. Feel free to ask any questions you have about drumming.
i have been playing snare for a year and 3 months and none of my teachers taught me rudiments or reading i was just a full on devon from drumline i can copy practically anything thats decent but i have found a teacher thats showing me how to read and the 40 rudiments
Drum Lifestyle I dont want to sound like I know more than anyone else. I simply learned from my instructor and more specifically from scojo himself of the difference in play styles of diddles that existed far back and, for some, still exists today. West coast diddles are replacing a note but are not played on the same partial, instead they evenly replace one note. East coast diddles, now the only diddles that are really played by drum corps, marching bands, etc... Are when the diddle is placed right on a note instead of evenly replacing the spacing of the note.
@@AlanHernandez If you use alternative sticking, it should be like this: Bars 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13: R L R L R L R L R L R L Bar 2: RLR L RLR L RLR L RLR L Bar 4: R LRL R LRL R LRL R LRL Bar 6: RLRLR LRLRL RLRLR LRLRL Bar 8: RLR L RLR L RLR L RLR L Bar 10: R L RLR L RLR L RLR L RL Bar 12: RLR LRLRL RLRLR LRLRL RL Bart 14: RLRLRLRLRLRLRLRLRLRLRLRL I hope it helps. Cheerio
@@AlanHernandez If you use diddles, it should be like this: Bars 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13: R L R L R L R L R L R L Bar 2: RRL R LLR L RRL R LLR L Bar 4: R LLR L RRL R LLR L RRL Bar 6: RRLLR LLRRL RRLLR LLRRL Bar 8: RRL R LLR L RRL R LLR L Bar 10: R L RRL R LLR L RRL R LL Bar 12: RRL RRLLR LLRRL RRLLR LL Bart 14: RRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLL
I haven't drummed in like, almost 4 years now. I was able to get to 160 and I was pretty proud of that, especially since I was a mallet player during marching band.
I made it to 200 I’ve been drumming for almost 15 years practice pays off kids remember that
what do u suggest practicing?
@@nayelicarvajal8342 rudiments, because they apply to almost everything you play. if you can play all 40 clean with accents and everything. and if you can learn them alternating the. you can play nearly anything
On 180 I slowed down a little on measure 6 and I’ve been drumming for 3 years
@@nayelicarvajal8342 rudiments
@@nayelicarvajal8342 You don't need all 40 rudiments. You can skip the X stroke rolls beyond 6. You still need to be able to play rolls of any length, but beyond 5 you are just counting rather than practicing different rudiments. You can skip all the combinations of paradiddles + drags + flams. Just practice paradiddles, flams, and drags. There are an infinite number of combinations of these things beyond what's in the official 40 rudiments. Skip the ratamacues.
Basically I'd concentrate on the following:
single stroke roll (various lengths)
double stroke roll (various lengths)
paradiddles + paradiddle-diddles
flam taps + maybe flam inverts
accent taps (flam accents without the flams)
flam accents + any other combination of moving flams, accents, and drags around.
swiss triplets
Also I think the key to playing some of these "rudiments" well is breaking down each hand individually. For example, play just the right hand of a flam accent or a flam drag and then just the left hand, and see if it sounds consistent on each hand. Chances are when starting out, one hand is going to be weaker, and focusing on your weak hand is going to give you better results.
If you get proficient playing those things in different combinations, you will be able to play everything else.
You don't actually ever need to know what a pataflafla is or to even know it was one of the 40 rudiments to be able to play it. In fact I just had to look it up right now. It is still important to be able to play it. It's just not more important than the myriad of other things similar to it that don't have names. In drumline we actually had an exercise that started with 6 variations of these, which is the reason I can play them and other things like them.
here's a fun take on this:
change the alternate sticking to RLL or LRR. so now instead of a roll, you get a 2-4 rhythm RRLLLL or LLRRRR
I've seen this rhythm pop up pretty often in WGI music
Got to 180 but that damn 4th bar from the end got me...hahhahahaha...Good stuff bro
im a sophomore and went to 180 and sight read this. last year i wasnt able to do this and its crazy how much u improve in highschool
@@ryunicol8761 I'm a senior but only played mallets, picked up snare this year, same story and true
That was some really cool triplet note practice thank you
Needed something to warm up and this definitely worked. Got messy at 180, I didn’t wanna try 200 lol
For everyone who is like “oMg mEaSuRe 12”....
If you can play measure 8, and you can play measure 10, you can play measure 12.
You meant to say 6?
Piñata ! no 12 is 8 and 10 put together
The “hard” part is not accidentally playing the middle of the triplet as a roll
@@TheSethunfajakiu Are the 5 stroke rolls in measure 6 hard for the same reason?
I hope you mind if I borrow this for my students next yr because this is an awesome teaching tool for triplets....I love it
We'd be honored. Thank you! Hopefully you will enjoy all of our other exercises too!
I’m new to marching snare from always having played concert snare. Simple things trick me, so I am unsure the sticking for this. Is it just RLR LRL RLR LRL for every measure?
Usually but the diddles are of course a double stroke
Anime Tiddies When are there diddles?
@@sorsorscience0787 the diddle marks are the lines through the notes. so you would play 2 notes in correct time for that partials respective sticking. Sorry if that was confusing
Sor Sor Science07 general rule of thumb if sticking isn’t written in, it’s usually alternate sticking
Although sticking is not written in I use the RLL pattern and alternate that, it just depends on what you can handle
Made it to 140 not too bad I just started last year
Is it just RLR LRL in this exercise?
@@LimpBizkit999 yes
@@islanxdyxshi4097 thanks
@Islanxd Yxshi what’s your speed now if you kept on playing?
Yeah I’m curious too what is your speed now?
0:13 - 80 bpm
1:49 - 100 bpm
3:06 - 120
4:09 - 140
Me encanta! Gracias!!!
Made it to 180 and then at 200 I was like :0
Me too 😭
I've been drumming for 5 months now and I've gotten up to 160.
Measure 12 gets me
If you need to take it slower then, by all means, do so! Just pause the video and bring out a metronome. Hope you get it soon!
Think of it the same as measure 6 just with to right hand diddles, it's just shiffted. Took me awhile but it good when you get it
Same
Me too
It feels off when i play it , it seems too soon compared to other measures ,otherwise pretty good
I started to play snare for about 2 weeks now and so far I can get up to 120. Wish me luck
Great foot workout for metal
I would’ve written, 1 partials: check 1st partial check 2nd partial check 3rd partial, 2 partials: 5 strokes tap 5s Book ends, 4 count roll, tap 4 count roll
I'm new to snare and teaching myself, how do you roll just one note like that? Do you just let the stick rebound on that note? Also dude what the hell is a diddle lol. I know what a paradiddle is but everyone's talking about chops and diddles and all this crap.
a "diddle" is just another way of saying a "double stroke." you just let the stick rebound for a second hit. so a "paradiddle" is pretty much a mnemonic of saying the strokes. pa-ra-diddle = RLRR or LRLL
chops just refers your current skill level, and how easily you can play certain rhythms or rudiments. for example, I max out at about at 180 bpm mark for this exercise, so I don't quite have the "chops" to play this any faster at the moment.
Made it to 180bpm
Oh my
This is like eating 17 donuts at once
Based off Triplet Diddle?
ye
I’m new and would like to know what the lines through the stems represent. Do I play a double or what do I do? Thanks
You’re correct, a slash through the note stem means you play two notes in the space of the slashed note. Slashed notes are played using doubles. A slashed 8th note means you play two 16ths, a slashed quarter note would mean two 8ths, and so on
koifish528 wouldn’t you just like, bounce the stick a bit when you see the slashes?
@@meghanmedendorp3257 I’m not sure what you mean by that, are you saying to do more than two bounces?
koifish528 I’m not exactly sure how to word it to make it understandable, especially since I don’t play drums in band. I just like reading the music
koifish528 but if I’m going by what I THINK i know, yes that is what I mean
No lie that 180 hit me hard 😂
De mucha ayuda, Gracias!
Damn I tapped out at 160 ...rust is real
How do you know if it’s triple rolls of diddle rolls or single roll? Plz reply
Edit: ignore my stupid comment I didn’t know crap, now I know there is something called double stroke roll
MARK SAMIR Just play them as diddles
Single stroke triplet rolls will usually be written as single stroked sextuplets. If it's a diddle then, it's written like you see on the sheet music
What do those small lines means? Sounds like.. a double stroke, a drag.. a ruff?
I’ve been drumming for 5 years I hit the max bpm pretty clean chops workout 🥶
cool exercise!
How and WHAT are diddles!!? Im confuseeedddddddddd
how u play em i need to knowwwwwwww :(
Diddles are just hitting twice in one stroke. You push the stick down and use a controlled bounce to make it hit twice instead of once. If you’re playing at a slow tempo, it might be easier to use your wrist to just push them out, but if you’re playing a little faster, you’re going to want to let the bounce do a lot of the work. They take some practice, but they aren’t as hard as they may seem.
Are the rolls supposed to be double stroked?
Quadz yeah?
Can you read music, or are you joking?
They were meant to be, but a true musician can bend the meaning of exercises and use them to improve almost anything. Ignore the other commenter and use the exercise for what YOU need it for. You can double stroke to practice diddles. You can single stroke to practice faster single speeds. You can add in crescendos and decrescendos every four bars to practice dynamics. The possibilities are endless and it’s up to you to decide how you want to practice. Please ask any questions you have and do not be discouraged by the low percentage of people who have a problem with people being unsure. Feel free to ask any questions you have about drumming.
Drum Lifestyle what does roll mean?
Do you want to know about single stroke rolls or double stroke rolls?
Lol I’m a freshman and I made it to 160-180 got a little messy at 180. I tried 200 but not there yet
i have been playing snare for a year and 3 months and none of my teachers taught me rudiments or reading i was just a full on devon from drumline i can copy practically anything thats decent but i have found a teacher thats showing me how to read and the 40 rudiments
This exercise is from carolina crown 2018
Joshua Garcia a lot of high schools and dci drumlines play triplet rolls as a warm up
Could you make one for 8 and 25?
What are the black lines though certain notes.are single stroke rolls,double stroke rolls,or buzz rolls
Any note that has the slash is a double. If an 8th note is slashed, you play two 16ths with that same hand.
Made it to 180 🔥🔥🔥
Great
made it to 180 with no problems then transferring into measure 12 hurts
Yup i just about got to 180 and maxed out lmao
I’m also in junior high drumline
200 ngl got me slipping towards the end
no one cares if you made it to 200 BPM everyone..
But I did😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
I made to 160 not bad I have improved my skills
This is I’mpossible
This almost sounds like west coast diddles??? Correct me if I'm wrong
What is/are West Coast Diddles? Got us curious haha.
Drum Lifestyle I dont want to sound like I know more than anyone else. I simply learned from my instructor and more specifically from scojo himself of the difference in play styles of diddles that existed far back and, for some, still exists today. West coast diddles are replacing a note but are not played on the same partial, instead they evenly replace one note. East coast diddles, now the only diddles that are really played by drum corps, marching bands, etc... Are when the diddle is placed right on a note instead of evenly replacing the spacing of the note.
Drum Lifestyle th-cam.com/video/gT8g-Lbsbt8/w-d-xo.html here's the video explaining it
made it to 200
I did it
0:55
3:37
5:52 180
5:04 160
4:11 140
3:06 120
i only got to 180
Made it to 200
0:13
Are these played as flams?
No, there’s no flams here. The notes with a slash through the stem are played as a diddle / double.
@@ThiccEFT any explanation??? im still confused since everyone has their own interpretation of diddles
@@AlanHernandez If you use alternative sticking, it should be like this:
Bars 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13: R L R L R L R L R L R L
Bar 2: RLR L RLR L RLR L RLR L
Bar 4: R LRL R LRL R LRL R LRL
Bar 6: RLRLR LRLRL RLRLR LRLRL
Bar 8: RLR L RLR L RLR L RLR L
Bar 10: R L RLR L RLR L RLR L RL
Bar 12: RLR LRLRL RLRLR LRLRL RL
Bart 14: RLRLRLRLRLRLRLRLRLRLRLRL
I hope it helps. Cheerio
@@AlanHernandez If you use diddles, it should be like this:
Bars 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13: R L R L R L R L R L R L
Bar 2: RRL R LLR L RRL R LLR L
Bar 4: R LLR L RRL R LLR L RRL
Bar 6: RRLLR LLRRL RRLLR LLRRL
Bar 8: RRL R LLR L RRL R LLR L
Bar 10: R L RRL R LLR L RRL R LL
Bar 12: RRL RRLLR LLRRL RRLLR LL
Bart 14: RRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLLRRLL
i can do 180 and then 200 is just like huh
Well ima only 14 and I’ve played at a tempo of 320 or higher