Love the tanks & love the experiment. Its good to do as much research as you can but its no substitution for first hand experience. Regardless of the outcome, by doing experiments like this you learn so many different things along the way. Enjoyed the honesty about the pond snail. You can quarantine, you can sterilize, you can hang reminder signs but eventually you'll break out into a cold sweat realizing you didn't wash your hands or didn't sterilize your net or you impulsively moved a small plant..... and now you have another tank of snails 😊 Thanks Again for Posting Your Video.
you have to account for both the daphnia & the snails eating. if they get really hungry, the daphnia will bounce around on snail poop, but it's better to toss some greenwater in there occasionally. i avoid yeast. i have large populations of both in a 30 gallon tank for about 3 years.
Hey Druid, I just posted a comment on Carbon Dragon's video about daphnia,... would you kindly read it please and give me your opinion on what I should/could do for my 10 day absence? Thank you in advance :-)
You also has a lots more plants in the snail tank. The plants absorbed the nutrients which leave less algae (green water) for Daphnia. The snail also occupy some bio load by producing waste. This will leave less room of bio load for Daphnia.
Interesting... I'm currently running a similar experiment, but my takeaway is the opposite. I started with more daphnia in a no-snail (daphnia only) tank & there are a lot of them, but they don't seem to reach big size. They've reached a stalemate in size & numbers now. The snails & plants tank started later (7-14 days) with fewer daphnia from the same stock, but produces larger specimens & has eventually caught up in numbers. I definitely prefer my mixed tank. My goal is to see if one crashes sooner than the other. My daphnia only tanks have all crashed in the past. I don't want quick commercial harvests, but a long running & stably producing, sustainable food tank for a few pet fish.
Hey Carbon Dragon, recently I saw this video on my research for daphnia culturing as my second daphnia was crashing and my third culture was on its way... After watching this video I decided to re-start the tank completely. I half filled with water from my other aquariums, I put a few shrimp in there and an Indian almond leaf for the biofilm to feed the shrimp, a little bit of sand - because I like to see it, a java fern - also because I like to see it, a very gentle bubble as I don't have spare sponges and finally a partially cooked lettuce leaf. That very same day my daphnia arrived and against the seller's advice I poured 1 whole bag into the tank - its only a 10ltr tank, I repeated this once an hour until all the bags were in there as I didn't want to shock the shrimp with too much foreign water at once. And filled the tank up with more water from my other tanks. After everything settled I saw a few dead daphnia at the bottom and used a piece of air line to syphoned them out, inevitably some live ones came with it and all of it when into the cory tanks... I've been feeding the daphnia with spirulina as well and I have noticed that the lettuce leaf is seriously decaying now... I don't feed yeast as this method didn't seem to work for me when I tried it several months ago. So far all is going well, and it's due to me watching this video. So, thank you for that. 4 days on now, and I can see tiny babies swimming around already, I have fished some daphnia out and laughed my head off when I saw that the chilli rasbora can't eat them, but they will reproduce and then... the chilli rasbora will eat the babies Now, this is the intro to my question: I'm going on a 10 day holiday, can the daphnia survive in a set up like that without the supplementary spirulina? I'd like your opinion please, or anyone else reading this comment/story. If it al goes wrong, I'll just start again, but its the joy of knowing that I'm doing something right :-) Looking forwards to hearing from you... Thank you very much.
Sorry for the delay. I have ignored my cultures for months at a time. I would never recommend premade food products as they are usually full of chemicals.
I wondered if daphana had a defensive strategy were that if they detect many of their kind are being eaten they all send a chemical reaction to each other and they lay their eggs to hatch at a later date then they all die afterward. This drives me up the wall when I like to keep it going to breed fish Tadpoles do the same but don’t die but do the chemical reaction to each other and all disappear in the mud etc and are not seen, they do this if with fish unless there are a big lot that overwhelms the predators Daphana also stay fine if they is anough to over whelm them but if they sense they are being wiped out they suddenly are all gone before they could all be eaten
Interesting observation! IMHO though, the tank with snails is much cleaner, healthier and more balanced. If you want to culture daphnia in that tank you can just start feeding spirulina powder.
No. I prefer not having filtration of any sort- allowing organic matter to decompose fully. Daphnia consume the organisms that consumes that organic matter.
i only want daphnia to feed one betta fish, so ig i'll get snails on the daphnia culture so they dont go crazy with growth bc my betta fish an only eat so much hahah
I don't know where you are, but here in UK its quite affordable through ebay. And many youtubers are explaining how to get it from river beds if you don't mind getting a bit more involved.
uh, no. You are absolutely wrong. The one with the snails has very little algae growth since the snails eat it. The one that doesn't has much more algae and therefore much more food floating around for them to eat.
Love the tanks & love the experiment. Its good to do as much research as you can but its no substitution for first hand experience. Regardless of the outcome, by doing experiments like this you learn so many different things along the way.
Enjoyed the honesty about the pond snail. You can quarantine, you can sterilize, you can hang reminder signs but eventually you'll break out into a cold sweat realizing you didn't wash your hands or didn't sterilize your net or you impulsively moved a small plant..... and now you have another tank of snails 😊
Thanks Again for Posting Your Video.
you have to account for both the daphnia & the snails eating. if they get really hungry, the daphnia will bounce around on snail poop, but it's better to toss some greenwater in there occasionally. i avoid yeast. i have large populations of both in a 30 gallon tank for about 3 years.
Hey Druid, I just posted a comment on Carbon Dragon's video about daphnia,... would you kindly read it please and give me your opinion on what I should/could do for my 10 day absence?
Thank you in advance :-)
You also has a lots more plants in the snail tank. The plants absorbed the nutrients which leave less algae (green water) for Daphnia. The snail also occupy some bio load by producing waste. This will leave less room of bio load for Daphnia.
Interesting... I'm currently running a similar experiment, but my takeaway is the opposite. I started with more daphnia in a no-snail (daphnia only) tank & there are a lot of them, but they don't seem to reach big size. They've reached a stalemate in size & numbers now. The snails & plants tank started later (7-14 days) with fewer daphnia from the same stock, but produces larger specimens & has eventually caught up in numbers. I definitely prefer my mixed tank. My goal is to see if one crashes sooner than the other. My daphnia only tanks have all crashed in the past. I don't want quick commercial harvests, but a long running & stably producing, sustainable food tank for a few pet fish.
Hey Carbon Dragon, recently I saw this video on my research for daphnia culturing as my second daphnia was crashing and my third culture was on its way...
After watching this video I decided to re-start the tank completely. I half filled with water from my other aquariums, I put a few shrimp in there and an Indian almond leaf for the biofilm to feed the shrimp, a little bit of sand - because I like to see it, a java fern - also because I like to see it, a very gentle bubble as I don't have spare sponges and finally a partially cooked lettuce leaf. That very same day my daphnia arrived and against the seller's advice I poured 1 whole bag into the tank - its only a 10ltr tank, I repeated this once an hour until all the bags were in there as I didn't want to shock the shrimp with too much foreign water at once. And filled the tank up with more water from my other tanks. After everything settled I saw a few dead daphnia at the bottom and used a piece of air line to syphoned them out, inevitably some live ones came with it and all of it when into the cory tanks... I've been feeding the daphnia with spirulina as well and I have noticed that the lettuce leaf is seriously decaying now... I don't feed yeast as this method didn't seem to work for me when I tried it several months ago.
So far all is going well, and it's due to me watching this video. So, thank you for that.
4 days on now, and I can see tiny babies swimming around already, I have fished some daphnia out and laughed my head off when I saw that the chilli rasbora can't eat them, but they will reproduce and then... the chilli rasbora will eat the babies
Now, this is the intro to my question:
I'm going on a 10 day holiday, can the daphnia survive in a set up like that without the supplementary spirulina? I'd like your opinion please, or anyone else reading this comment/story.
If it al goes wrong, I'll just start again, but its the joy of knowing that I'm doing something right :-)
Looking forwards to hearing from you...
Thank you very much.
Sorry for the delay. I have ignored my cultures for months at a time. I would never recommend premade food products as they are usually full of chemicals.
anybody else gets a weird sound from 1:28 to 1:32
i thought i was about to bluescreen
I subbed , I keep mystery snails and scuds together , somehow this combination also gives me tons of infusoria.
What they eat ?
Nice Ludwigia in the snail tank.
I wondered if daphana had a defensive strategy were that if they detect many of their kind are being eaten they all send a chemical reaction to each other and they lay their eggs to hatch at a later date then they all die afterward.
This drives me up the wall when I like to keep it going to breed fish
Tadpoles do the same but don’t die but do the chemical reaction to each other and all disappear in the mud etc and are not seen, they do this if with fish unless there are a big lot that overwhelms the predators
Daphana also stay fine if they is anough to over whelm them but if they sense they are being wiped out they suddenly are all gone before they could all be eaten
Interesting observation! IMHO though, the tank with snails is much cleaner, healthier and more balanced. If you want to culture daphnia in that tank you can just start feeding spirulina powder.
No bad option. But we all know eventually the no snail option becomes snailed!
I think it’s the lack of plants you have. That snailess tank probably grows more food for the daphnia
I had the same idea , the tank with fewer dapnhia is way more planted
Interesting
sir, what do you feed in that tank wit shrimp, snails, and daphnia inside?
Do daphnia need filtration?
No. I prefer not having filtration of any sort- allowing organic matter to decompose fully. Daphnia consume the organisms that consumes that organic matter.
i only want daphnia to feed one betta fish, so ig i'll get snails on the daphnia culture so they dont go crazy with growth bc my betta fish an only eat so much hahah
thanks for the info
i want some daphnia so bad but they are so expensive.
Daphnia are free, there is some outside all over the world.
@@SuperDaveno I have tried to find some in the wild with no luck.
I don't know where you are, but here in UK its quite affordable through ebay. And many youtubers are explaining how to get it from river beds if you don't mind getting a bit more involved.
found some now that it has cooled down here in the states. thanks.@@charliebrown9188
Can you run a sponge filter with daphnia, or will they get sucked into it?
Sponge filter is great, especially when dirty. However, clean it thoroughly and it may crash the culture.
What about a HOB?
What does it eat?
Biome...the stuff that is consuming decaying organic matter and using the lights energy. Microscopic flora & fauna.
Looks like Pokémon
Daphnia do better with green water.
I love my snail. bet my snails would love to meet your snails, maybe take the for... cough cough take the too lunch :-)
Too much snails, try lessen the snails
The snails might eat the eggs of daphnia thats why its few. Iwant to keep my daphnia producing to feed my fish. Thats why I will not put snails. 😊
Daphnia will eat newborn cherry shrimp
What ?! Really ?!
@@emanon888 No, they're harmless filterfeeders and smaller than newborn shrimp
uh, no. You are absolutely wrong. The one with the snails has very little algae growth since the snails eat it. The one that doesn't has much more algae and therefore much more food floating around for them to eat.