The way both brothers carries themselves and speak with such eloquence is exactly what we need in the dawah scene here in the west. May Allah reward you both.
I just realized something.... Cliffe is a really good preacher. If I have no knowledge about Islam nor Christianity, I would actually be doctrine into following Christianity. Alhamdulillah I come across this man when my faith towards Islam is strong. I can easily identify his lies and not to follow blindly on what he says
@@duccc5273 it's scary because whoever haven't know something... They would accidentally go inside the abyss. Whoever knows, can easily debunk him. But for those who don't know, they would accept something like "oh, is that so...." Then the prejudice towards islam just grows.
@@user-zo4iz2nv5u yeah. Whoever actually did research tbh. If you do research you would find his lies. And his arguments are wide, but if it's Islam by no less for no reason the book is wrong or the prophet is wrong.
The preacher decided to end the conversation when he realized both brothers knew what they were about. He didn't want them to make their points because he knew the consequences of that.
@@Apologetic231 The Matter of Gabriel of Muhammed Coming to Mohammed is exactly the same matter of Gabriel coming to Mary or Jesus being born through the Virgin Birth. You are currently applying the "Consistency Principle" fallacy thinking you are smart.
11:30 I believe Rayan did exactly what he should’ve done at the time not strong arm the conversation and just let it flow so people could make their own rational decision. I believe when someone is as calm as Rayan was at the debate and not jumping mid sentence almost begging for attention and still giving a fallible answer it shows who really believes and trusts in his point. Allahumma barik Rayan I hope to see you debate more in the future who knows in shaa Allah
The more they lie about islam and prophet muhammad SAW, the more islam will grow, more people realise islam is the truth and those missionarys just liars. At this point there is no way to stop Islam Alhamdulillah for islam
What is the lies? It is better to point out what you think is untrue, and what you base this upon. And then explain what you find as the truth based on a solid verifiable argument.
@@amaartr-a8666 imagine liking your own comment the lies are simply overexaggrating or making straight up false interpretations and arguments against Islam while taking the wrong sources like daeef hadiths etc
What is it that is overexaggerating and where is the false interpretation made? And what is the reliable sources people can go to check out for themselves?
Dear Brother Rayan: There is a sincerity in your voice that I really admire. I pray Allah keeps you steadfast, and continue to be in the frontline in defending these attacks on Islam. May Allah guide and protect us all, ameen.
We have to give credit to Cliff for being honest enough to post this as well, even if we might think some of his points are disingenuous. May Allah guide him.
@@user-zo4iz2nv5ucliff kept going off topic and saying stuff like ‘ohh you believe what you believe i believe what i believe’. I know its hard to accept other views, but if you look at it from a outsiders view with no bias its quite clear the muslim was way more logical. This is a common thing cliff does, he speaks with confidence to make it seem as if hes knowledgable but in reality he knows nothing about Islam. Like he brings up the trade centre for no reason??
@@bleachinmyeyespls I think it’s obvious if you’re looking at it from a non bias pov you’d see that the guy doesn’t even make any good argument. Starting with Jesus only knowing one language that it’s “impossible” for Jesus to know/speak any other language.
34:10 brother Rayan clearly got emotional even at the thought of it!…. Literally sent chills down the spine! I wish I can attain even an ounce of this emotional connection of brother Rayan!
7 ways to earn deeds after death: 1) Give a copy of the Qur'an to someone. Each time one reads from it you gain. 2) Donate a wheelchair to a hospital. Each time a sick person uses it you gain. 3) Participate in building a masjid. 4) Place a watercooler in a public space. 5) Plant a tree. You gain whenever a person or an animal sits in it's shade or eats from it. 6)Teach friends and family about Islam. Everytime they learn something from you and they implement it you gain. 7)And the easiest of all, share this message with people.
@ImmzyP Wonder WHY no one asked the Brainwashed Pastor 'WHY the all Knowing God Almighty, the Creator Supreme, wanted to become a Human, and What prompted 'HIM' to pop out off the womb of a woman that HE had created earlier....WHO did HE tell on earth about HIS would-be dramatic appearance ? Is there any 'educated' Christian who is Privy to this INFO.....please speak up ?
@@DavidLopez-gf6fy Muslims only worship one God. Not 3 in 1. Just one. Kabah is the direction we face to pray. Even Jesus pbuh prayed with his face on the floor.
Amazing job by my fellow Muslim brother. Cliffe knew he ran into some Muslims who were educated and they weren’t gonna just allow him to speak falsehood about Islam, it was a loose - loose situation for cliffe so he decided to reject them rudely.
I have a lot of respect for these two brothers masha Allah tabarak Allah. This level of calm demeanour whilst discussing religion is what we should emulate.
His main problem is talking information from somebody who was 600 years after Jesus. The way the conversation could be ended is by simply saying that we, as Muslims, take information from God and Muhammed PBUH is the messager of God. Hence, the information about Jesus being a prophet and not God is taken from God himself. Now the question is... What is more reliable a word of God or a word of men that could get corrupted after 1400 years? Then the conversation would be on a totally different level which is what are the proves of Muhammad PBUH being a prophet.
Yeah. I think that's why the preacher brought the point that we can't prove any book is word from God, whether it's Qur'an, Bible, Torakh, etc. because ultimately, we get the word from a person (Prophet, Etc.). not directly from God, unfortunately the guy misunderstood the preacher's point and instead thinking about the purity of the books thus he brought mass transmission. That's why in the end, the preacher close the discussion, because he brought red herring and afterall the Christians claimed that the Bible is the word of God, and Muslim claimed that Qur'an is the word of God, there is no ending to it if we based the argument by assuming one is true.
@@bluee5991 A very good analysis and insightful observations, brother. I still think our brother did a very good job defending Islam. To add to your point, we can prove that the Quran is from God. This is why we, as Muslims, are so strong in our faith, because we have endless proof that the Quran is from God.
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564can you explain why Mohammed has Sex with a 9 year old and is also your Role Model? Please answer first before you ask me a Question
@TomislavAntic-bt1cz all the prophets had beards. We follow in their footsteps. If a muslim man does not have a beard it is sinful. Will I go as far as saying he is a unbeliever no. But many churches if not all promote being clean shaven.
As a Christian watching this I am very glad that the exchange is done in honesty (except that young man who said the Aisha comment), even though at that point Cliff seemed a bit out of it i do see that he had every intention of having intellectual discourse. While I do see issue with that lot of bad things islam has done, I also acknowledge that the Bible records really horrendous sounding things (though I know the reason why it is justified. Things like God pronouncing judgement on a sinful nation etc). It is good that you two are articulating these out for all of us to ponder, and it is now up to us to look deeper into it. Each religion will view these with their own coloured lenses, and it is up to us to cross examine each side with honesty, something I hope to do myself and encourage you all to do. I myself bought a Quran recently, and I now have more Islamic text than Christian text (I don't have a physical bible) my process of cross examining it however has revealed to me that Christianity is still true. But that is me, I hope others also do the same.
Masha Allah. So proud of you Rayan. You made that Preacher quit and peace out. You kind of embarrassed him and he knew you had him so he quit and wanted no more of it.
He did great man!! You presented your knowledge of understanding comparative religion through logic and reasoning; whereas the preacher ran away and dismissed every one of your points without logic and roasting. Rather using his blind belief in the religion
I find it funny that these people are so adamant to worship the creation instead of the CREATOR. They are literally arguing with people to worship a MAN.
How this guy believes in Paul? I can’t understand someone so knowledgeable of the bible can’t be sincere and recognize the contradictions and errors in it. And the biggest contradiction in Christianity which is believing that God can be a man at the same time of being God.
@@eyram6424 with all do respect not to call you ignorant but you are. Mohammed PBUH, he doesn’t talks about his opinion there is many proofs to back up all his claims. We certainly don’t have blind faith!
@@eyram6424 if perhaps you consider yourself a honest and sincere person look for it with and open mind and heart, is only one truth of you look for it this way you’ll find it
Cliff He's just making claims about the Quran and he's making empty claims about the bible. If he encounters the Muslim Lantern My guy will crumble his claims in seconds... cuz I've seen him crumble all these claims in his videos... But I don't think we'd see him encountering Cliff cuz, he doesn't ever engage with the missionaries that only seek to propagate their agenda and those who are not capable of having a rational conversation
Cliffe reminds me of the characters from the series The Boys where the supes try to convince you to beileve their truth even though its not factual correct just as long as you make them beileve its true.
Even atheist historians confirmed the crucifixion of Jesus. If we’re putting belief aside and going off fact Jesus was crucified and that is something your book denies. Meaning your book is false
It doesn't matter if the revelation of God comes 500 years or even one billion years after Jesus's death [Pbuh] if it's from God then time doesn't matter cause God doesn't forget, so it's a stupid argument
@@hilmyakatsuki1665Lol yes it did. You don’t even know your own book so don’t speak on the Bible. Better yet just don’t speak on things you don’t know 😂
@@user-zo4iz2nv5u you missed your own point of claiming coming later would mean it's not real yet laughing at others! If you really know about your book then you would not even say that. Yet claiming others don't know about their book?
@@user-zo4iz2nv5u Quran tells you to be christian? Like prays to a human and compares with God? Nope the Quran never tells anything like that and even it clearly mentioned how a human can't be a God, why people shouldn't pray to a human. Clearly you don't even know about the Quran and even your own bible.
@@eyram6424 Believe it or not, Mohammed(PBUH) met not only Jesus but also Other prophets in Miraj. But you don't answer my question instead making another one you think you can trigger Lol.
Lmao yep. Muhammad went to Al-Masjid (a mosque that didn't exist during his time) and ascended to the heavens (while he has sleeping with another man's wife). Great cover. I gotta learn how to lie like Muhammad. He fooled so many people.
@@ProphetLoss Did you know that this night the prophet was afraid to tell this story because some people leave Islam for that. So are you saying that he will lie for something that will cause people to leave the faith ?
Why would they die for jesus then? They stood on what they believed to be true (Jesus rose from the dead) and they got killed for that belief. If they were lying, why would they die for what they know to be a lie? Really? Would you die for a belief you know to be a lie?
As was pointed out in this video, the Bible is not a trustworthy source of information due to us not having original manuscripts in Jesus’ language and we can see clear mistakes(If you are interested I can show you some examples) So the question isn’t if Muhammad PBUH was right why would they lie? The question is how do we know what the disciples and Jesus really said, did and believed? If the answer is the Bible, well I am sorry that is not a trustworthy source. And furthermore, if your answer is the Bible, I would ask you which bible you are referring to?
@@celindsouza1950 Allah CAN preserve anything and the evidence for that is the preservation of the Quran. Allah DIDN’T preserve the previous scriptures as they were only meant for the people of that time. You can disagree with that belief all you want but what you can’t do is claim the bible is preserved and the Quran is not. And tbh you can’t even claim they are both preserved.
@@ian5iron he can preseve nothing ,the goat ate a chapter in allans book lol . The goat ate the chapter when pedof warlord was dead and the book was under his pillow .
You always forget something important. Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, does not know what happened that day. God Almighty is the one who told him what happened that day. It seemed to them that he was crucified.
@@الحقيقةالمغيبة-خ9خ so why is your god still hiding whoever died in jesus' place for over 2000 years? you do realise him not naming the culprit is the exact reason why people don't think he is a transparent/trustworthy god?
He met Jesus in the heavens when he ascent from earth to the 7th heavens. Jesus pray behind the prophet this night. + Gospel is not 50 but the most recent full one is 4 century after in Ancient Greek. We do not know who wrote them and we do not have any chain of transmission between us and Jesus. Now Mohamed peace be upon him which is a prophet and a messenger of the creator of this universe we have information about the revelation his life and so many things with accurate transmission and precision.
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When he talked with Cliffe, he didnt adress the answers that Cliffe gave him, he just kept talking. The reason why Cliffe stoped the conversation is because the way they were not listening or adressing his answers, the conversation wasnt going anywhere. Cliffe didnt run, he just stopped a conversation that would never get anywhere, just like he said.
He made his point. He listened to cliffe. He knows what he was doing. He asked questions, Pastor answer. No need to argue. Its up to you to see the truth. If you keep on believing on christianity, then you know you dont make sense. God can never die. Thats blasphemy. The pastor just made ZERO SENSE.
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اخي المسلم ،السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته ، انا عربي واتكلم لغتين بطلاقة واريد ان اتعلم اسلوب الدعوة للاسلام ، وانا اخاطبك بالعربية لاني اعلم انك ستقوم بضغط الترجمة على يوتيوب ، الان دعني أخبرك عني انا عمري ٢٢ واعطي دروس للغة العربية ايضا ونناقش مواضيع مختلفة على تليجرام ، ولدي أصدقاء نصارى والحمدلله أحدهم اسلم بعد دعوة ودراسة للاسلام اربع أشهر ودرس حياة النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم، واسلم ولله الحمد ، ولكن اريد ان اسافر الى الدول الغربية وادعوا الناس إلى الإسلام 😊فإن كنت تعرف اين ادرس كيف ادعوا الى الله ❤😊
Hate preaching is what that guy does . May Allah bless you and everyone who fights for Islam and guide the people to the truth and for speaking the truth when others don't and just sit there and let this man talk about Islam
The issue is most/ the majority of Christians have never opened and read the Quran but Muslims have read and understand both the Quran and Bible in its correct context.
And they always settle on the Quran SubhanAllah. Bc the Quran was brought down to Muhammad and to this day no mistakes in it, while as the Bible with many mistakes and things that don’t even make sense. It’s the eyes that are blind but the hearts
11:02 YES HE DID CLAIM TK BE GOD: Jesus accepting worship: Matthew 2:11, Matthew 12:9, John 12:13, Matthew 14:33, John 4:24, (God being worshipped: Rev 4:8-11), Rev 19:10(angel denying worship), Luke 19:37-40 Jesus claiming to be god: John 10:30, John 8:58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”, Revelation 1:8, Mark 14:62 “Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”(see Nabeel Qureshi clip), John 1:1, 1-2john both say that ppl who deny Christ’s divinity are “anti-Christ’s,” John 8:23-24, John 8:19-20, Rev 1:8, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord(Lord not LORD showing both are equal), which is, and which was, and which is to come(“is to come” Jesus is coming back), the Almighty. Please stop spreading blatant misinformation, you guys are just making claims about what you think we base our faith off of, but you end up just severely misrepresenting us. If you’re a Muslim reading this comment, please just don’t accept everything, but these people say, they represent our beliefs. And about that verse that they are talking about there, could Jesus be saying: “do you realize what you are saying?” Bc if nobody is good but God, then this guy is claiming Jesus is god. And bc Jesus consistently claims to be good in his teachings (he is the “good shepherd”), then he is obviously not denying his divinity
Cliffe's argument that the man only acknowledged Isa (AS) as a teacher and that's why he said "I am not good". But if Isa was God (Astaghfirullahal atheem) then God would be the best of teachers too! God is a good teacher! What better teacher is there than God! Alhamdulillah, Isa (AS) was distinguishing between him (a prophet) and the Lord of the Worlds.
Great job Rayah & friend, & Rami. I hope people notice how Cliff acted like groups w/ different beliefs invalidates mass transmission that _goes back_ to actual _witness testimony_ . He shut it down _very_ quickly once he realised they actually might be able to prove the Qur'an is the word of God, after he already admitted to the crowd he couldn't do the same for the Bible. Funny he was telling people that to be fair, you should listen to what Islam says about itself, but he wanted to publicly speak against Islam without allowing the Muslims to come back on the spot. I think it was quite obvious that the reason he stopped things so suddenly was because he realised things were about to go very wrong for him. He allowed that slanderous speech afterwards, I'm sure he was very happy to get back to the easy, emotional shots against Islam without a Muslim to respond. That part was extremely dirty of him. I have to be fair and give him credit for being honest enough to upload the video. May Allah guide him for that sincere act.
OFC in islam we believe God in omnipresent. He is omnitemporal in the way that he is omnipresent, as per his words: "And He is with you, wherever you may be." He is everywhere by his knowledge and power, and nowhere, without being in a place, direction or location, because He existed eternally before all the creations (including time and space)
Doesn't matter how much you decorate falsehood it always will be falsehood And truth always will be truth. Quran 17-81 : "The truth has now come [to light], and falsehood has withered away: for, behold, all falsehood is bound to wither away!" And declare, “The truth has come and falsehood has vanished.
Cliffe understood if he allow grow the conversation he would be in trouble, And people understand the logic and true.. So he try to him them out.... As almighty say they can't stop the truth
26:39 . As soon was the two muslims actually say something that was hard to counteract, Cliffe just tells them that they're not being open minded and they're not listening to him. What a fucking hypocrite. That's the thing about cliffe, Whenever something is pure evidence that the bible is corrupted and wrong, he just tells them to leave and that they're not listening.
Islam is the truth and the only way to paradise, all Prophets from adam(as) to Muhammed(saw) were muslims(submitting their will to god) To allah we belong and to him we will return
ALLAH only uses the word WOMEN, neither young girls nor girls, ''women'' who can be married with conscious consent. You're going to tell me about Aicha, but this was an exception and first of all, I remind you that the marriage was only ''consummated''once she had reached puberty: Explanation: in those days, the consent of the parent was sufficient, and it was often arranged. Aisha was already promised to someone back then, and marriage was the only way to cancel the engagement. Why did he marry her? ALLAH showed her to him in a dream, making him understand that she would be his wife in paradise and that he should therefore marry her. He denied it (the dream, yes, he dared in the face of divine revelation - I've come to the explanation) and the dream was repeated several times until the angel Gabriel called him to ask him why he was denying the message, The Prophet (peace be upon him) explains that it's the age of this one that bothers him, she's too young, so he ends up marrying her but doesn't tou ch her, he even bought her dolls and so on. Now you're going to say yes, ''but what if she was pre-pubescent? the age is still too young ..." What you are ignoring or not taking into account is the time ATTENTION not the standards of the time, the prophet follows only the standards of Allah and it is formally forbidden p€ dophilia and any kind of se+ual drift, no I'm talking about the time at the time it did not flow in the same way, indeed : According to Anas Ibn Malik (may Allah be pleased with him), the Prophet (may the prayers of Allah and His salvation be upon him) said: "The hour will not take place until time shrinks, a year will be like a month, a month will be like a week, a week will be like a day, a day will be like an hour and the hour will be like the time that lasts what is used to light the fire when it is put into the flames." (Reported by Tirmidhi in his Sunan n°2332 and authenticated by Sheikh Albani in his correction of Sunan Tirmidhi) This is what will cause btw the sun to rise in the west at the end of time: "The Hour will not come until the sun rises in the west; and when it rises in the west and people see it, they will all believe." This phenomenon has recently been discovered, which corresponds to Schuman's resonance .Basically, this means that 12 years in our time is absolutely not equivalent to 12 years back then, so it comes as a shock to us in our time because it doesn't correspond to the same time in reality, and believe me, just between 1980 and the 21st century, Schuman's resonance, which causes time to accelerate, went from 7.8 to 12 hertz. I'll let you imagine the time difference between 1400 years ago and NOWADAYS which must be enormous, especially since we've only been able to measure this resonance since 1980. YES WE WERE BASICALLY TOLD ABOUT SCHUMAN'S RESONANCE 1400 YEARS AGO WICH WAS ONLY DISCOVERED IN THE 80S!.
3.30 Says 5 pillars but only gives 2 (less than 50%) then deviates from it. *Quick quiz* Are you a Christian that follows Jesus (peace be upon him)? If yes do you: • Drink alcohol? (Bible forbids it) • Do you eat pig meat? (Bible forbids it) • Do you take usury? (bank interest) *Bible forbids it* (This for the men) • Are you circumcised? As per the Bible Jesus (peace be upon him) was on the 8th day after birth. We (majority) Muslims do follow the above teachings of Jesus (peace be upon him) more than the congregations of all Christians in the world as a whole.
Cliffe follows what Paul said. And if you go back to what was written before Paul you go down the rabbit hole of contradictions. They have to make it seem that what you read in the Bible is some sort of code that only the true followers of Jesus can understand. Instead of reading it in plain English they read it like its some sort code that needs to be cracked.
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The way both brothers carries themselves and speak with such eloquence is exactly what we need in the dawah scene here in the west. May Allah reward you both.
Ameen!
Ameen
Eloquence?? It’s pure BS!
@@d2westruth go cry to your mama
@@d2westruth theres a reason cliffe only speaks to college students.
Please accept this small token of support inshaAllah. May Allah bless you both with the best of blessings amin.
May Allah reward you
$15? thats 150 crowns in sweden.
Have you read the new testament?
@@cruspackyt8425 who? Me or dailymuslims?
I have written my anonymous authors and Paul. The lying murderer of followers of Christ
I just realized something.... Cliffe is a really good preacher. If I have no knowledge about Islam nor Christianity, I would actually be doctrine into following Christianity. Alhamdulillah I come across this man when my faith towards Islam is strong. I can easily identify his lies and not to follow blindly on what he says
No you can’t lol. If you read the Quran and UNDERSTOOD it you wouldn’t be Muslim.
he is just really good at being confident in what he says
@@duccc5273 it's scary because whoever haven't know something... They would accidentally go inside the abyss. Whoever knows, can easily debunk him. But for those who don't know, they would accept something like "oh, is that so...." Then the prejudice towards islam just grows.
@@KindOfTiredofLiyfe Whoever has actually knowledge of Islam shouldn’t follow it lol
@@user-zo4iz2nv5u yeah. Whoever actually did research tbh. If you do research you would find his lies. And his arguments are wide, but if it's Islam by no less for no reason the book is wrong or the prophet is wrong.
The preacher decided to end the conversation when he realized both brothers knew what they were about. He didn't want them to make their points because he knew the consequences of that.
So can your proof Gabriel came to Mohammed?
@@Apologetic231 The Matter of Gabriel of Muhammed Coming to Mohammed is exactly the same matter of Gabriel coming to Mary or Jesus being born through the Virgin Birth.
You are currently applying the "Consistency Principle" fallacy thinking you are smart.
@@amjedbelgacem8218 so no proof?
@@Apologetic231 The proof is that Muhammad made a book when he was illeterate with historical and scientifical miracles
@@Apologetic231 guess u dumb since you didn’t get what i commented.
11:30 I believe Rayan did exactly what he should’ve done at the time not strong arm the conversation and just let it flow so people could make their own rational decision. I believe when someone is as calm as Rayan was at the debate and not jumping mid sentence almost begging for attention and still giving a fallible answer it shows who really believes and trusts in his point. Allahumma barik Rayan I hope to see you debate more in the future who knows in shaa Allah
Rayan had horrible arguments and would just jump to another one when Cliffe answered him lol
@@user-zo4iz2nv5u Lol you're funny
The more they lie about islam and prophet muhammad SAW, the more islam will grow, more people realise islam is the truth and those missionarys just liars. At this point there is no way to stop Islam
Alhamdulillah for islam
What is the lies? It is better to point out what you think is untrue, and what you base this upon. And then explain what you find as the truth based on a solid verifiable argument.
@@amaartr-a8666 imagine liking your own comment
the lies are simply overexaggrating or making straight up false interpretations and arguments against Islam while taking the wrong sources like daeef hadiths etc
What is it that is overexaggerating and where is the false interpretation made? And what is the reliable sources people can go to check out for themselves?
Beautifully said!
@@amaartr-a8666 It's the same amount of lies.
Dear Brother Rayan: There is a sincerity in your voice that I really admire. I pray Allah keeps you steadfast, and continue to be in the frontline in defending these attacks on Islam. May Allah guide and protect us all, ameen.
Looks like Cliff posting this backfired thus making it go viral. Well spoken young man !
We have to give credit to Cliff for being honest enough to post this as well, even if we might think some of his points are disingenuous. May Allah guide him.
How did it backfire? The Muslim guy arguments were horrible
@@ha.alaminHe’s stating fact. The Muslim couldn’t even stay on topic
@@user-zo4iz2nv5ucliff kept going off topic and saying stuff like ‘ohh you believe what you believe i believe what i believe’.
I know its hard to accept other views, but if you look at it from a outsiders view with no bias its quite clear the muslim was way more logical.
This is a common thing cliff does, he speaks with confidence to make it seem as if hes knowledgable but in reality he knows nothing about Islam. Like he brings up the trade centre for no reason??
@@bleachinmyeyespls I think it’s obvious if you’re looking at it from a non bias pov you’d see that the guy doesn’t even make any good argument. Starting with Jesus only knowing one language that it’s “impossible” for Jesus to know/speak any other language.
Thank you for having a great conversation with that man.
What an amazing, eloquent and intelligent man with the most beautiful and gentle manner allahumma barik feeh! He is in our duas
He is a revert, mashaallah 🤎
Who is a revert? Rayan is?
@@bishokhan8926yes. He said he used to be a Christian.
Didn't he said he's born muslim but his mom remarried a devout Christian, that led him into Christianity? @KhanAquatics
@@eszeezee6967 More like born into a muslim family and then due to his upbringing he became Christian
Both brothers were an outstanding respectful example of the ummah. May allah bless them both and may allah have mercy on us all 🤲🏽☝🏽
Amin.
34:10 brother Rayan clearly got emotional even at the thought of it!…. Literally sent chills down the spine! I wish I can attain even an ounce of this emotional connection of brother Rayan!
Well done brother defending the deen!
So to muslims is all about defending doctrines???
@@preciousneddi2564Wydm
Defending the deen that has a God that deceived his followers by "making it look like Jesus was being crucified"?
Muslims are beyond repair.
my G always good to see you in another vid Rami
7 ways to earn deeds after death:
1) Give a copy of the Qur'an to someone. Each time one reads from it you gain.
2) Donate a wheelchair to a hospital. Each time a sick person uses it you gain.
3) Participate in building a masjid.
4) Place a watercooler in a public space.
5) Plant a tree. You gain whenever a person or an animal sits in it's shade or eats from it.
6)Teach friends and family about Islam. Everytime they learn something from you and they implement it you gain.
7)And the easiest of all, share this message with people.
The Pastor said Mark met Jesus. Wow just wow.
😂😂 He was angry
Thought I was the only one to think that😂😂😂😂
@ImmzyP Wonder WHY no one asked the Brainwashed Pastor 'WHY the all Knowing God Almighty, the Creator Supreme, wanted to become a Human, and What prompted 'HIM' to pop out off the womb of a woman that HE had created earlier....WHO did HE tell on earth about HIS would-be dramatic appearance ?
Is there any 'educated' Christian who is Privy to this INFO.....please speak up ?
"God humbled himself" wth.
Idol worshippers doing idol worship things.
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564you guys worship Muhammad and a stone
@@DavidLopez-gf6fythey dont, islam and the quran only worship God and God alone
@@DavidLopez-gf6fy Muslims only worship one God. Not 3 in 1. Just one. Kabah is the direction we face to pray. Even Jesus pbuh prayed with his face on the floor.
May Allah guide these Pagans
I really enjoyed that video and I’m proud of you guys I hope you go on that way ❤
Brother Rayan, you did a great job. Thank you for your efforts. May Allah keep you steadfast on the deen, ameen.
Amazing job by my fellow Muslim brother. Cliffe knew he ran into some Muslims who were educated and they weren’t gonna just allow him to speak falsehood about Islam, it was a loose - loose situation for cliffe so he decided to reject them rudely.
I have a lot of respect for these two brothers masha Allah tabarak Allah. This level of calm demeanour whilst discussing religion is what we should emulate.
His main problem is talking information from somebody who was 600 years after Jesus.
The way the conversation could be ended is by simply saying that we, as Muslims, take information from God and Muhammed PBUH is the messager of God. Hence, the information about Jesus being a prophet and not God is taken from God himself.
Now the question is... What is more reliable a word of God or a word of men that could get corrupted after 1400 years?
Then the conversation would be on a totally different level which is what are the proves of Muhammad PBUH being a prophet.
Yeah. I think that's why the preacher brought the point that we can't prove any book is word from God, whether it's Qur'an, Bible, Torakh, etc. because ultimately, we get the word from a person (Prophet, Etc.). not directly from God, unfortunately the guy misunderstood the preacher's point and instead thinking about the purity of the books thus he brought mass transmission. That's why in the end, the preacher close the discussion, because he brought red herring and afterall the Christians claimed that the Bible is the word of God, and Muslim claimed that Qur'an is the word of God, there is no ending to it if we based the argument by assuming one is true.
@@bluee5991 A very good analysis and insightful observations, brother. I still think our brother did a very good job defending Islam.
To add to your point, we can prove that the Quran is from God. This is why we, as Muslims, are so strong in our faith, because we have endless proof that the Quran is from God.
Alhamdullilah
Beardless guy saying he follows Jesus عَلَيْهِ ٱلسَّلَامُ 🙂
They follow shaytan.
@@Haqqseeker40Some of them are him.
@@Haqqseeker40since when has Beard anything to do with Belief? If a Muslim has no Beard he is Not a Believer by your Logic
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564can you explain why Mohammed has Sex with a 9 year old and is also your Role Model? Please answer first before you ask me a Question
@TomislavAntic-bt1cz all the prophets had beards. We follow in their footsteps. If a muslim man does not have a beard it is sinful. Will I go as far as saying he is a unbeliever no. But many churches if not all promote being clean shaven.
Jazakallah brothers .
May Allah keep us firm on our deen.
may ALLAH protect and bless this convert
As a Christian watching this I am very glad that the exchange is done in honesty (except that young man who said the Aisha comment), even though at that point Cliff seemed a bit out of it i do see that he had every intention of having intellectual discourse. While I do see issue with that lot of bad things islam has done, I also acknowledge that the Bible records really horrendous sounding things (though I know the reason why it is justified. Things like God pronouncing judgement on a sinful nation etc). It is good that you two are articulating these out for all of us to ponder, and it is now up to us to look deeper into it.
Each religion will view these with their own coloured lenses, and it is up to us to cross examine each side with honesty, something I hope to do myself and encourage you all to do.
I myself bought a Quran recently, and I now have more Islamic text than Christian text (I don't have a physical bible) my process of cross examining it however has revealed to me that Christianity is still true. But that is me, I hope others also do the same.
This was at UT Austin subhanallah.
Masha Allah. So proud of you Rayan. You made that Preacher quit and peace out. You kind of embarrassed him and he knew you had him so he quit and wanted no more of it.
Amazing video fr!
Hey Rayan you did an AMAZING job the delivery was impeccable
I saw this on an arabic channel. 😂 amazing job by the brother! Allah awee
He did great man!! You presented your knowledge of understanding comparative religion through logic and reasoning; whereas the preacher ran away and dismissed every one of your points without logic and roasting. Rather using his blind belief in the religion
he did great..
This needs to go viral
39:00 "What did the donkey do" got me icl🤣
Two very intelligent brothers 👏🏾
I find it funny that these people are so adamant to worship the creation instead of the CREATOR. They are literally arguing with people to worship a MAN.
You guys worship a stone and Muhammad
Catholics worship bread too
May allah protect Rayan!
Most of the Cristian didn't know the value of the God the almighty! Alhamdulilah for ISLAM ❤
Mashallah my wise brothers
The pastor is a deceiver!! Exactly, in the Bible verse Jesus did not say call me good god, not a good teacher!
Nothing this brother bought up, is something I am unfamiliar with, but his confidence and ability to speak clearly on the spot, mash'Allah is amazing.
Cliff just gave up.
Don’t blame him. The guy literally was not listening to him
@@user-zo4iz2nv5uno lmao he lost and quit while he was ahead cliff got absolutely cooked
This young brother is amazing MashaAllah.
How this guy believes in Paul?
I can’t understand someone so knowledgeable of the bible can’t be sincere and recognize the contradictions and errors in it. And the biggest contradiction in Christianity which is believing that God can be a man at the same time of being God.
How is Mohammed different to Paul?
@@eyram6424 with all do respect not to call you ignorant but you are. Mohammed PBUH, he doesn’t talks about his opinion there is many proofs to back up all his claims. We certainly don’t have blind faith!
@@fladimirfcastelly8128 Which proof?
Claiming he saw Angel Gabriel is the proof to you?
@@eyram6424 if perhaps you consider yourself a honest and sincere person look for it with and open mind and heart, is only one truth of you look for it this way you’ll find it
@@eyram6424does Paul claiming he saw Jesus proof for you?
the brother is a hit piece ❤
Cliff He's just making claims about the Quran and he's making empty claims about the bible. If he encounters the Muslim Lantern My guy will crumble his claims in seconds... cuz I've seen him crumble all these claims in his videos...
But I don't think we'd see him encountering Cliff cuz, he doesn't ever engage with the missionaries that only seek to propagate their agenda and those who are not capable of having a rational conversation
AsSalaamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh may Allah reward You both
Brother did amazing against that christian. Great work
Well spoken guy may Allah bless you all brother
Cliffe reminds me of the characters from the series The Boys where the supes try to convince you to beileve their truth even though its not factual correct just as long as you make them beileve its true.
Even atheist historians confirmed the crucifixion of Jesus. If we’re putting belief aside and going off fact Jesus was crucified and that is something your book denies. Meaning your book is false
It doesn't matter if the revelation of God comes 500 years or even one billion years after Jesus's death [Pbuh] if it's from God then time doesn't matter cause God doesn't forget, so it's a stupid argument
also that would mean the Bible was not true because it came after other revelations and those didn't mention the son of God or human sacrifice
@@hilmyakatsuki1665Lol yes it did. You don’t even know your own book so don’t speak on the Bible. Better yet just don’t speak on things you don’t know 😂
@@user-zo4iz2nv5u you missed your own point of claiming coming later would mean it's not real yet laughing at others!
If you really know about your book then you would not even say that. Yet claiming others don't know about their book?
@@hilmyakatsuki1665 I do! The Quran tells me to be a Christian. The Bible tells me to follow Christ (which is to be a Christian)
@@user-zo4iz2nv5u Quran tells you to be christian? Like prays to a human and compares with God?
Nope the Quran never tells anything like that and even it clearly mentioned how a human can't be a God, why people shouldn't pray to a human.
Clearly you don't even know about the Quran and even your own bible.
Proud of you Guys MashAllah
How did he claimed that Luke, Matthew, John, etc. those man met Jesus? 💀
Did Mohammed meet Jesus?
@@eyram6424 Believe it or not, Mohammed(PBUH) met not only Jesus but also Other prophets in Miraj. But you don't answer my question instead making another one you think you can trigger Lol.
Lmao yep. Muhammad went to Al-Masjid (a mosque that didn't exist during his time) and ascended to the heavens (while he has sleeping with another man's wife). Great cover. I gotta learn how to lie like Muhammad. He fooled so many people.
@@ProphetLoss Did you know that this night the prophet was afraid to tell this story because some people leave Islam for that. So are you saying that he will lie for something that will cause people to leave the faith ?
@@anxoidenamikaze1551 Haha! I believe he was sleeping with his cousin Umm Hani the night this revelation came to be.
i enjoy your vids so much keep doing :D
❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🤲🤲🤲
More proof, though not needed, that Allah is the one true God and is the only one worthy of worship. Bismillah, Ameen
Why would they die for jesus then? They stood on what they believed to be true (Jesus rose from the dead) and they got killed for that belief. If they were lying, why would they die for what they know to be a lie? Really? Would you die for a belief you know to be a lie?
As was pointed out in this video, the Bible is not a trustworthy source of information due to us not having original manuscripts in Jesus’ language and we can see clear mistakes(If you are interested I can show you some examples) So the question isn’t if Muhammad PBUH was right why would they lie? The question is how do we know what the disciples and Jesus really said, did and believed? If the answer is the Bible, well I am sorry that is not a trustworthy source. And furthermore, if your answer is the Bible, I would ask you which bible you are referring to?
@@ian5ironso allah sent the gospel and torah but its untrustworthy now . Allah cannot preserve it 😢 . You just spnked allan now
@@celindsouza1950 Allah CAN preserve anything and the evidence for that is the preservation of the Quran. Allah DIDN’T preserve the previous scriptures as they were only meant for the people of that time.
You can disagree with that belief all you want but what you can’t do is claim the bible is preserved and the Quran is not. And tbh you can’t even claim they are both preserved.
@ian5iron where is your proof that Bible was meant only for people of previous generations ? Whoand when was Allah s Bible corrupted
@@ian5iron he can preseve nothing ,the goat ate a chapter in allans book lol . The goat ate the chapter when pedof warlord was dead and the book was under his pillow .
29:34 if you would like to know how he defended the initial statement without falling for the clickbate intro, you're somewhat welcome.
So a Gospel is not reliable because it is 50 years later but Muhammad who never met Jesus is more reliable got it
You always forget something important. Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, does not know what happened that day. God Almighty is the one who told him what happened that day. It seemed to them that he was crucified.
@@الحقيقةالمغيبة-خ9خ so why is your god still hiding whoever died in jesus' place for over 2000 years? you do realise him not naming the culprit is the exact reason why people don't think he is a transparent/trustworthy god?
No, we believe God, who is timeless, and is the one who sent the message to Muhammad to be shared with mankind.
You guys always miss the point.
First of all Muhammed peace be upon him met Jesus in the first place but to add unto that he also met the Holy spirit who give to him the quran.
He met Jesus in the heavens when he ascent from earth to the 7th heavens. Jesus pray behind the prophet this night.
+ Gospel is not 50 but the most recent full one is 4 century after in Ancient Greek. We do not know who wrote them and we do not have any chain of transmission between us and Jesus. Now Mohamed peace be upon him which is a prophet and a messenger of the creator of this universe we have information about the revelation his life and so many things with accurate transmission and precision.
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When he talked with Cliffe, he didnt adress the answers that Cliffe gave him, he just kept talking. The reason why Cliffe stoped the conversation is because the way they were not listening or adressing his answers, the conversation wasnt going anywhere. Cliffe didnt run, he just stopped a conversation that would never get anywhere, just like he said.
Correct !
He made his point. He listened to cliffe. He knows what he was doing. He asked questions, Pastor answer. No need to argue. Its up to you to see the truth. If you keep on believing on christianity, then you know you dont make sense. God can never die. Thats blasphemy. The pastor just made ZERO SENSE.
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Much Love Brothers❤.
May Allah Bless u both🤲
Awsome show guys.
Outclassed
اخي المسلم ،السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته ، انا عربي واتكلم لغتين بطلاقة واريد ان اتعلم اسلوب الدعوة للاسلام ، وانا اخاطبك بالعربية لاني اعلم انك ستقوم بضغط الترجمة على يوتيوب ، الان دعني أخبرك عني انا عمري ٢٢ واعطي دروس للغة العربية ايضا ونناقش مواضيع مختلفة على تليجرام ، ولدي أصدقاء نصارى والحمدلله أحدهم اسلم بعد دعوة ودراسة للاسلام اربع أشهر ودرس حياة النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم، واسلم ولله الحمد ، ولكن اريد ان اسافر الى الدول الغربية وادعوا الناس إلى الإسلام 😊فإن كنت تعرف اين ادرس كيف ادعوا الى الله ❤😊
آخر المقطع في موقع أشار له لتدريب الدعاة
وفقك الله
Hate preaching is what that guy does . May Allah bless you and everyone who fights for Islam and guide the people to the truth and for speaking the truth when others don't and just sit there and let this man talk about Islam
Hate preaching is always from "your" side
33:05- was beautiful said by the brother.
The issue is most/ the majority of Christians have never opened and read the Quran but Muslims have read and understand both the Quran and Bible in its correct context.
And they always settle on the Quran SubhanAllah. Bc the Quran was brought down to Muhammad and to this day no mistakes in it, while as the Bible with many mistakes and things that don’t even make sense. It’s the eyes that are blind but the hearts
awesome!!! does Rayan have yt channel??? awesome guy 😍
send Cliff to Hashim, he will never preach again out of embarrassment
I want to see these guys talk wit Mar Mari Emmanuel, Cliffe knechtle, David Hammond, Kevin Perry, Johnny Chang in person... that be interesting
Confusion ❌️
Trinity ✅️
More knowledgeable muslims should debate him
11:02 YES HE DID CLAIM TK BE GOD:
Jesus accepting worship: Matthew 2:11, Matthew 12:9, John 12:13, Matthew 14:33, John 4:24, (God being worshipped: Rev 4:8-11), Rev 19:10(angel denying worship), Luke 19:37-40
Jesus claiming to be god: John 10:30, John 8:58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”, Revelation 1:8, Mark 14:62 “Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”(see Nabeel Qureshi clip), John 1:1, 1-2john both say that ppl who deny Christ’s divinity are “anti-Christ’s,” John 8:23-24, John 8:19-20,
Rev 1:8, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord(Lord not LORD showing both are equal), which is, and which was, and which is to come(“is to come” Jesus is coming back), the Almighty.
Please stop spreading blatant misinformation, you guys are just making claims about what you think we base our faith off of, but you end up just severely misrepresenting us. If you’re a Muslim reading this comment, please just don’t accept everything, but these people say, they represent our beliefs.
And about that verse that they are talking about there, could Jesus be saying: “do you realize what you are saying?” Bc if nobody is good but God, then this guy is claiming Jesus is god. And bc Jesus consistently claims to be good in his teachings (he is the “good shepherd”), then he is obviously not denying his divinity
Mark was 60 years after Jesus. And it wasn't a full manuscript, it was credit card size in greek and no one knows who these people were
Cliffe's argument that the man only acknowledged Isa (AS) as a teacher and that's why he said "I am not good". But if Isa was God (Astaghfirullahal atheem) then God would be the best of teachers too! God is a good teacher! What better teacher is there than God! Alhamdulillah, Isa (AS) was distinguishing between him (a prophet) and the Lord of the Worlds.
I respect this brother so much 😂 je really put that oldan to shame
I Hope Cliffe reacts to this 😂
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله تعالى وبركاته
I like to know more about Rayan please
Great job Rayah & friend, & Rami. I hope people notice how Cliff acted like groups w/ different beliefs invalidates mass transmission that _goes back_ to actual _witness testimony_ .
He shut it down _very_ quickly once he realised they actually might be able to prove the Qur'an is the word of God, after he already admitted to the crowd he couldn't do the same for the Bible.
Funny he was telling people that to be fair, you should listen to what Islam says about itself, but he wanted to publicly speak against Islam without allowing the Muslims to come back on the spot. I think it was quite obvious that the reason he stopped things so suddenly was because he realised things were about to go very wrong for him.
He allowed that slanderous speech afterwards, I'm sure he was very happy to get back to the easy, emotional shots against Islam without a Muslim to respond. That part was extremely dirty of him.
I have to be fair and give him credit for being honest enough to upload the video. May Allah guide him for that sincere act.
"there would have been an explosion..." Islamophobia at its finest
OFC in islam we believe God in omnipresent. He is omnitemporal in the way that he is omnipresent, as per his words: "And He is with you, wherever you may be." He is everywhere by his knowledge and power, and nowhere, without being in a place, direction or location, because He existed eternally before all the creations (including time and space)
Doesn't matter how much you decorate falsehood it always will be falsehood
And truth always will be truth.
Quran 17-81
: "The truth has now come [to light], and falsehood has withered away: for, behold, all falsehood is bound to wither away!" And declare, “The truth has come and falsehood has vanished.
Cliffe understood if he allow grow the conversation he would be in trouble, And people understand the logic and true.. So he try to him them out.... As almighty say they can't stop the truth
26:39 . As soon was the two muslims actually say something that was hard to counteract, Cliffe just tells them that they're not being open minded and they're not listening to him. What a fucking hypocrite. That's the thing about cliffe, Whenever something is pure evidence that the bible is corrupted and wrong, he just tells them to leave and that they're not listening.
do a debate with sam shamoun
When the muslim speaks the students look curious when the guy speaks they look bored and confused.
Yeah, because the Muslim kid spewing bs lol
@@ProphetLossthe bs of your book not being reliable
Yeah, you right. The Quran is unreliable.
And somehow yet Cliffe was stating fact and had better points 😂
@@ProphetLoss How ? Provide logical argument
Islam is the truth and the only way to paradise, all Prophets from adam(as) to Muhammed(saw) were muslims(submitting their will to god)
To allah we belong and to him we will return
I watched this. When brother's hafiz friend came by, that preacher run wkwkwk.
I'm pretty sure they are the ones that left😅
Praise lord Jesus !!!!!!!
Alpha and omega ,the last and the first !
can you have a chat with sam Shamoun
ALLAH only uses the word WOMEN, neither young girls nor girls, ''women'' who can be married with conscious consent. You're going to tell me about Aicha, but this was an exception and first of all, I remind you that the marriage was only ''consummated''once she had reached puberty:
Explanation: in those days, the consent of the parent was sufficient, and it was often arranged. Aisha was already promised to someone back then, and marriage was the only way to cancel the engagement.
Why did he marry her? ALLAH showed her to him in a dream, making him understand that she would be his wife in paradise and that he should therefore marry her. He denied it (the dream, yes, he dared in the face of divine revelation - I've come to the explanation) and the dream was repeated several times until the angel Gabriel called him to ask him why he was denying the message, The Prophet (peace be upon him) explains that it's the age of this one that bothers him, she's too young, so he ends up marrying her but doesn't tou ch her, he even bought her dolls and so on. Now you're going to say yes, ''but what if she was pre-pubescent? the age is still too young ..." What you are ignoring or not taking into account is the time ATTENTION not the standards of the time, the prophet follows only the standards of Allah and it is formally forbidden p€ dophilia and any kind of se+ual drift, no I'm talking about the time at the time it did not flow in the same way, indeed :
According to Anas Ibn Malik (may Allah be pleased with him), the Prophet (may the prayers of Allah and His salvation be upon him) said:
"The hour will not take place until time shrinks, a year will be like a month, a month will be like a week, a week will be like a day, a day will be like an hour and the hour will be like the time that lasts what is used to light the fire when it is put into the flames."
(Reported by Tirmidhi in his Sunan n°2332 and authenticated by Sheikh Albani in his correction of Sunan Tirmidhi)
This is what will cause btw the sun to rise in the west at the end of time:
"The Hour will not come until the sun rises in the west; and when it rises in the west and people see it, they will all believe."
This phenomenon has recently been discovered, which corresponds to Schuman's resonance .Basically, this means that 12 years in our time is absolutely not equivalent to 12 years back then, so it comes as a shock to us in our time because it doesn't correspond to the same time in reality, and believe me, just between 1980 and the 21st century, Schuman's resonance, which causes time to accelerate, went from 7.8 to 12 hertz. I'll let you imagine the time difference between 1400 years ago and NOWADAYS which must be enormous, especially since we've only been able to measure this resonance since 1980.
YES WE WERE BASICALLY TOLD ABOUT SCHUMAN'S RESONANCE 1400 YEARS AGO WICH WAS ONLY DISCOVERED IN THE 80S!.
Without lies Islam dies
Okay With logic Christianity panic
So you think solving this problem is by rhyming words? Go read and confirm his claims@@anxoidenamikaze1551
3.30
Says 5 pillars but only gives 2 (less than 50%) then deviates from it.
*Quick quiz*
Are you a Christian that follows Jesus (peace be upon him)?
If yes do you:
• Drink alcohol? (Bible forbids it)
• Do you eat pig meat? (Bible forbids it)
• Do you take usury? (bank interest) *Bible forbids it*
(This for the men)
• Are you circumcised? As per the Bible Jesus (peace be upon him) was on the 8th day after birth.
We (majority) Muslims do follow the above teachings of Jesus (peace be upon him) more than the congregations of all Christians in the world as a whole.
Put it this way, even these guys look more jesus than most of self-proclaimed christians
Cliffe follows what Paul said. And if you go back to what was written before Paul you go down the rabbit hole of contradictions. They have to make it seem that what you read in the Bible is some sort of code that only the true followers of Jesus can understand. Instead of reading it in plain English they read it like its some sort code that needs to be cracked.