In 2002, i was an alcoholic in early recovery, and not particularly well. In my local library one afternoon, i was flicking through a newspaper and came across an article concerning a film being made about Sylvia Plath. She was unknown to me and i didn't read the whole article. Within the hour at the same library i perused a copy of The Road less Travelled, by M. Scott Peck. The page i opened at random mentioned a work called The Bell Jar, by Sylvia Plath. I noted the coincidence, then replaced the book without further thought. Perhaps 30 minutes later i left the library, via a rear exit i didnt usually use. On a revolving bookstand ajacent to the exit was a paperback of The Bell Jar, by Sylvia Plath. Regrettably i didnt decide to read it. Several years later i read it, and perceived belatedly i was probably being led to a work which may have shed some light on my state of mind at that time, so in a sense it was an opportunity lost at the time. But now i consider that day for me an example of true synchronicity tailored to my personal need at the time. I personally have no doubt that inner states/needs can have a causal relation to the outer world. For me, the explanation is simple. The inner and outer are not merely interrelated, but fundamentally one and the same.
I don't think you will ever know the impact you made on my life when I was 20 years old. I was watching you on the Wisdom Network on Satellite. Your show really opened my mind. That's how I found you recently and am super excited to see you back behind the good work in the New Age realm! May God bless you my friend!
Jung absolutely fascinates me. What a pioneer . I have always had many synchronicities throughout my life. Was mindblowing to me when I found that word and all it's connotations yrs back. The Red book would be another awesome video for discussion. Thank you both for this gem.💕☝️🌠
@M. Jones I only have read that he was famous for experiments on inheritance of acquired traits. Eg..the midwife toad. He eventually comminted suicide as was accused of fraudulent tampering with the toads newly webbed pads. Never have seen anything on synchronicity from him. What book or reference? I would read it.
Jeffrey Mishlove is fantastic. I love this show. I have also really, REALLY enjoyed all the Gary Lachman episodes, but this one and the imaginal realms one have been my favorites.
There is something to synchronicity. Though I've never met Mr. Lachman, I was indeed at the recording sessions for the first 'Blondie' album. That was 1976, Plaza Sound Studios, eighth flr., Radio City Music Hall, NYC. I remember one evening where I standing behind Deborah Harry, Richard Gottehrer, and Rob Freeman (respectively, producer and engineer) in the studio while they were working on the 'mix' for the song-'In The Flesh'. The next evening I met my old girlfriend, Margot, and a curious telepathy happened between us: We started to know what the other was going to say before we said it. 4 years later, 1980, Plaza Sound Studios, NYC, Richard Gottehrer and Rob Freeman, and the recording of the first "Go-Gos" album ('Beauty And The Beat'). Right before they went into Plaza Sound to record this album, their bass player quit on them. Her name is Margot. They replaced her with someone named 'Valentine' (Kathy). So, I called my old girlfriend Margot last night (2-7-2023) and asked her if she ever heard the song-"I'm Always Touched By Your Presence, Dear"? I then explained to her the circumstances behind it's being written and it being recorded. Today, I sent her a Valentine card (sigh). True story, folks!
I don’t know if such an idea has ever been proposed, but I would love for Dr Mishlove to host a New Thinking Allowed conference of sorts with some of his guests and followers. I would just love to listen to folks like Gary Lachman & James Tunney speak ❤️
Jung has spent his entire life trying to scientifically investigate occultism and the paranormal. To assimilate the subconscious with the critical mind. That is the difference between Karl Jung and esotericism. Jung said in esotericism everything means everything.
My experiences with and in my dreams are very symilar to Jung, even been a ordinary down to earth woman and never had nothing to do Spiritualism but I had to understand why my unconscious mind was taking me to those paths. Very good discus it was. Thank you.
@@truthlivingetc88 Why is this true? Why does this produce results? I asked myself for a subconscious guide & am doing shadow-work, and my dreams are responding. Its like a coded conversation between my conscious & sub/unconscious. How is this possible, and how do I explore it deeper? Im doing the pre-requisite studies of Jungs material, but im wondering more of how the pragmatic applications of the theories work.
It is very well known in "developed psychic circles" that Jung stopped way short of what is required in relation to faith and understanding. In other words Jung got lost in his interpretative machinations at precisely the point at which many of us who are less experienced with danger than Jung was (psychiatric hospital environments a hundred or so years ago) could not afford the luxury of so doing. To keep it simple. This is a theological matter. And you might choose to pray that higher (Angelic) forces will guide you. I cannot put it more clearly than that. I have had a Philemon for thirty years but this is just not enough. Jung was a genius of interpretative healing. But his exquisite ignorance about the simple aspects of faith and prayer set a lamentably poor example at least in some key spiritual aspects. Listen or choose to learn the hard way. I chose Jung`s route. It has its dangers. Go directly to God. Do not fuck about !
I'm glad that I knew JUST enough about the 60's / baby boomer era via my parents recollection...the sad thing is that not nearly enough of that "hippie" generation stuck to their guns...their optimistic beliefs and opinions. They all went conservative, conformed and focused on "keeping up with the jones'" once they "settled" "down" and started having families. Makes me appreciate you guys that much more! Thanks for staying true to "free thinking" 💗
I stuck to my guns,became an artist,have had a great life,ask me any question for I have had the most dangerous of all Occult experiences,Raising the Kundalini.L.oL!
I love the story of Carl Jung's precognitive vision of the World War, and I've been meaning to use it in a novel I am writing (unrelated to Jung's life). It is such a mystical, yet poignant story.
Having had numerous hypnagogic and hynopompic episodes, I've learned that the mind will create tangible images for intangible concepts that are influenced by personal experiences or cultural beliefs, much like in a dream. These waking lucid dream experiences can be expanded in various ways with focused intentions.
This is what ive experienced, I asked myself for a subconscious guide and one was produced in a dream. How do I explore this deeper, in what manner do I need to structure my "focused intentions" in order to continue to produce results? As a HARDCORE skeptic the results deeply surprise me, how do I go deeper?
Regarding Jung's guru (Philemon) and how our thoughts are not personal/subjective, but rather they are available to everyone, an objective psyche / mind-at-large / pluralistic-universe... would have liked to have heard details about how to enter this consciousness (ex. via Herbert Silberer's Hypnagogia).
Thank you for the clarification on the definition of the collective consciousness. I thought it coincided more with the new age concept of oneness and found it to be disturbing as it suggested, to me, a loss of individuality. Having access to or emerged into a state of gnosis makes more sense.
Raising the Kundalini destroys the ego and you become like a "Doe in the Headlights" easy prey for psychopaths and Guru's.Oceanic bliss but at one hell of a price.Look up what they did to Peter Green,founder of Fleetwood Mac.There were many acid casualties in the 60s.Often loss of individuailty,look up "The Source Family" automatons,robots,Manson family robots that lost their ego's and killed others can Charlie couldn't get a record deal.
The collective unconscious can be seen as an awareness of quantum probabilities. Precognition, synchronicity, etc... can be seen as a collapse of the wave function as they manifest in conscious reality?
These two do such good work. I have to support them. There! just ordered "Jung the Mystic" through Amazon! Order it!! And order a new copy, not a used one. No cheating!
I just finished reading 'Jung the Mystic'. Loved it! I had the most incredible experiences while reading this book. One, I almost never remember my dreams, but while reading this book, every time I woke from sleep, I could remember vivid dreams in great detail. When I finished the book, the experience stopped. Enjoy!
Thank you so much for the work you are and have been doing! Your channel provides a tremendous relief from the regurgitated ideas advanced by “the culture industry” as Adorno and Horkheimer would put it. 👌🏿
Jung did see the hermetic Journey. Take a look at the Journey through the planetary houses in Mysterium Coniunctionis, Volume 14 of the collected Works of C. G Jung. Also Jung also was a professor at a university, but there he was getting questions that he could not answer. He was seeking questions so he left the university to study the unconscious of himself and others. This is his confrontation with the unconscious as he explains in Memories, Dreams, Reflections.
I wish Mr. Lachman would write a book on "Luciferians" clarifying what it currently means, what it used to mean and why this sudden trend of people labeling all the subjects he's written books on as "Satanic Luciferianism"?. Aside from Crowley, obviously, I just don't undertand how people could hold such conflicting views about the same thing, "New age enlightenment.. or the Devil"? example: I love The Never-ending Story which lead me to Steiner's Anthroposophy which Ive enjoyed studying and yet people online are adamant that its Satanic worship of Lucifer But It's Just Not; as with most New Age/Spiritualism concepts. What is the true "unbiased" historical view of the term Luciferian and where did the concepts originate?(without being taken out of context) You see my father is an Episcopal Priest and anthropologist who owns every one of those books in our home. I was mortified when my school freind wasn't allowed to spend the night after telling her mother of my dad's books. I've been trying to find answers myself but each point of veiw co-existing in civil disagreement just doesn't seem possible. I just want the truth, is that so hard! Lol sorry, I get really fustrated with this subject..What would Carl Jung have said about it all ?! (I should've been born in his era.)
Rebekah Scheible: Tell me, are you knowledgeable about the etymology of Lucifer? I agree there misunderstanding around this subject. After all the name and the concomitant cults have meant many things in many cultures and different times and predate the Old Testament by millennia. Are you interested in Jung?
@@ThePdeHav No. But I'm interested in learning. I'm trying to learn about as many theories and belief systems as possible. Peers in my field think we may be going extinct by 2026 due to massive toxic gas emissions from permafrost, Siberia, and the Arctic. That's worst case scenario. We have been lied to for so long many experts are even confused. Some are saying 2030...others saying definitely by 2050 because by then the oceans will be dead.
You're probably never going to find a real unbiased perspective on Luciferianism, I always thought it was a syncretism of Eastern Dharma religions and Christianity similar to how Tibetan Buddhism is a syncretism between Buddhism and the homegrown Tibetan beliefs like Bon - but I don't really know that's just what I had thought.
For me, Jung is my touchstone. Having actually read his entire output and thought about his ideas a great deal, I attest his hugely non-trivial impact on my life. Two of my closest friends are psychiatrists, on in the UK, the other in the US, both are well versed in his concepts. Thus I haven’t experienced this idea he’s been sidelined, although from a subjective purview I understand this to hold water. His preface to the English translation of the I Ching and thus association with one of the symbols of the burgeoning 1960s New lAge culture didn’t him any favors with academia, Also, like Nietzsche and Proust, Joyce and Freud, he’s name dropped by intellectual Dullards and half assed New Agers. His most popular concepts were distorted badly as they travelled through late 20th century culture. His psychological taxonomy, for the want of a better phrase ( sleep deprived from jet lag ) is complex. To read him is one thing. More importantly is to think about his psychoanalytic concepts. Jung shares that thing with other great men of letters, that is, as one gets older one’s thoughts about him develop with time. Symbols Of Transformation is a good example. In fact I discarded his writing on Mandalas and the later writings about space aliens and UFOs until well into my forties. A bit like Blues Music, these later writings improve as one ages. Great discussion. Great Channel. Thanks so much for this Jeffrey and Gary.
“That’s why he bring his own needles and gets more cheese than Doritos Cheetos or Fritos, slip like Freudian your first and last step to play yourself like an accordion” RIP Jung and MFDOOM
@@GaryLachman you've got a NJ sense of humor. ☺ on that note, I live in Lambertville NJ and you're welcome to check out my collection of books. I am Wiccan but I also have a few rare publications by people of the Dianic and Rosicrucian traditions. -Michele
On Alchemy and the Unconscious might the latter as Objective Mind correspond to the Lacanian Forbidden Real and thus resolve the issue of whether Alchemy is to do with physical or mind stuff?
Didn't know he "dabbled" in astrology as well and read his patients' charts! Well looking at his own natal chart, it's no surprise that he resisted the one thing he was very good at and came to him naturally for a long time. His sun in Leo is almost conjunct his descendant (what's known as your shadow side as he coined it) forming a trine to his MC. and Pars Fortuna is in Scorpio in his 9th house = deep exploration and expansion into the psyche is his natural talent! I'm surprised not to find much activity in Pisces or his 12th house though... (at least according to this chart: www.astrotheme.com/images/zoom.php?p=rlW2VwbvZF4jZlVfVz4vBvWwVvjvLlV6VzZ3HaSYJQEKn04lFPVfVz8vBvVjsQS8ZKjjsQO8ZUjjsQO8ZUjjsQNjVa0)
Jordan Peterson is great fan of Jung, though he is considered part of right which may not appeal Jeffery's sensibilities He would be great guest, but I have read somewhere he is charging huge amount for appearance after achieving this celebrity status, and is being managed by Hollywood agents.
@@SlackKeyPaddy Thanks for pointing out this. My understanding of Jung and Peterson is limited to only youtube videos. After your pointing out I too remember I never heard him talking about anything except archetypes. Not that it is relevant, as I watched this short video, your point became quite clear to me. th-cam.com/video/ievx0Fk7m6g/w-d-xo.html
@@SlackKeyPaddy Most of the descriptions I've seen of him don't match the man. I don't find him nearly as right wing as many claimed. I think the best thing he has been doing is criticising the encroachment of censorship and social control that has been happening in the last decade or so. He is right to point out it shares some of the worst aspects of Marxist thinking and strategy. However, I wouldn't want him on this channel discussing Jung, because he has a good few outlets already. I disagree with some of his interpretations, but it is good to see Jungian notions such as the Shadow being introduced into mainstream discourse. He's right when he says many moderns have not dealt with the issue of their shadow, which is where a lot of their hatred comes from.
What happened in the interim, prior to the release of the red book, Jung had met his brother the Christ,.......and is he currently serving in the emancipation of Humanity into the Mercurial Mind, which is both Male and Female, whole brained,...the requirement for Ascension/Emancipation is resurrection into the Quintessence of the elements, the domain where we have moved beyond the senses, into non local mind and the understanding of universality,...........
You're using lots of loaded language that laymens like me will never understand. What is the quintessence of the elements? What is the Mercurial mind? What literal results are obtained from achieving your theory?
Oh, you are one of those relativists who are offended by everything, especially by truth. Btw, Jung wrote some great essays about the psychology of Nazism, you should really check it.
Lewis Connolly Perhaps, I think we don’t know all the details. I took a class at the international Psychoanalytic institute in Berlin, and they discussed that Jung’s involvement helped save the lives of many of the Jewish psychologists of Berlin, and also became a way of preserving psychoanalysis during the Third Reich. The institute in Berlin continued during the Nazi regime and the only psychology permitted was „non-Jewish“. The general accepted narrative is his involvement was for humanistic reasons.
Again, Jung secretly worked for the OSS, the forerunner of the CIA , in providing psychological profiling of various Nazi figures for which he was given a commendation after the war for the value of his contributions.
In the book Aryan Christ, the author writes how Jung had a theory of an Aryan collective unconscious as well as a Semitic. After the war Jung dropped those ideas like a sack of potatoes and morphed into the wise old man we see today!
I’m loving all these Gary Lachman interviews you’ve done, cheers
In 2002, i was an alcoholic in early recovery, and not particularly well. In my local library one afternoon, i was flicking through a newspaper and came across an article concerning a film being made about Sylvia Plath. She was unknown to me and i didn't read the whole article. Within the hour at the same library i perused a copy of The Road less Travelled, by M. Scott Peck. The page i opened at random mentioned a work called The Bell Jar, by Sylvia Plath. I noted the coincidence, then replaced the book without further thought. Perhaps 30 minutes later i left the library, via a rear exit i didnt usually use. On a revolving bookstand ajacent to the exit was a paperback of The Bell Jar, by Sylvia Plath. Regrettably i didnt decide to read it. Several years later i read it, and perceived belatedly i was probably being led to a work which may have shed some light on my state of mind at that time, so in a sense it was an opportunity lost at the time. But now i consider that day for me an example of true synchronicity tailored to my personal need at the time. I personally have no doubt that inner states/needs can have a causal relation to the outer world. For me, the explanation is simple. The inner and outer are not merely interrelated, but fundamentally one and the same.
I agree that it was meant for you, designed by powers beyond our understanding call it what you will .
I don't think you will ever know the impact you made on my life when I was 20 years old. I was watching you on the Wisdom Network on Satellite. Your show really opened my mind. That's how I found you recently and am super excited to see you back behind the good work in the New Age realm! May God bless you my friend!
Jung absolutely fascinates me. What a pioneer . I have always had many synchronicities throughout my life. Was mindblowing to me when I found that word and all it's connotations yrs back. The Red book would be another awesome video for discussion. Thank you both for this gem.💕☝️🌠
@M. Jones I only have read that he was famous for experiments on inheritance of acquired traits. Eg..the midwife toad. He eventually comminted suicide as was accused of fraudulent tampering with the toads newly webbed pads. Never have seen anything on synchronicity from him. What book or reference? I would read it.
@M. Jones Arthur Koestler is the synchronicity guy. It is a shame Koestler's thinking has been overshadowed by his personal behaviour.
Have you found the Carl Jung Depth Psychology Reading Group? We are just completing a 6-month reading and commentary on Answer to Job.
Always a pleasure to hear Jeff and Gary in conversation
Jeffrey Mishlove is fantastic. I love this show. I have also really, REALLY enjoyed all the Gary Lachman episodes, but this one and the imaginal realms one have been my favorites.
Fascinating for sure. I shall listen again. Thank you both.
There is something to synchronicity. Though I've never met Mr. Lachman, I was indeed at the recording sessions for the first 'Blondie' album. That was 1976, Plaza Sound Studios, eighth flr., Radio City Music Hall, NYC. I remember one evening where I standing behind Deborah Harry, Richard Gottehrer, and Rob Freeman (respectively, producer and engineer) in the studio while they were working on the 'mix' for the song-'In The Flesh'. The next evening I met my old girlfriend, Margot, and a curious telepathy happened between us: We started to know what the other was going to say before we said it. 4 years later, 1980, Plaza Sound Studios, NYC, Richard Gottehrer and Rob Freeman, and the recording of the first "Go-Gos" album ('Beauty And The Beat'). Right before they went into Plaza Sound to record this album, their bass player quit on them. Her name is Margot. They replaced her with someone named 'Valentine' (Kathy). So, I called my old girlfriend Margot last night (2-7-2023) and asked her if she ever heard the song-"I'm Always Touched By Your Presence, Dear"? I then explained to her the circumstances behind it's being written and it being recorded. Today, I sent her a Valentine card (sigh). True story, folks!
I don’t know if such an idea has ever been proposed, but I would love for Dr Mishlove to host a New Thinking Allowed conference of sorts with some of his guests and followers. I would just love to listen to folks like Gary Lachman & James Tunney speak ❤️
Dabashesh Banarji and Micheal Cremo
more please! perhaps you could both delve into the Red Book? thanks.
I hope Jeff reads your comment and really does it. It will be treat of the life time.
El Gato why not go into analysis yourself? Find out who you are deep inside :)
I so enjoy listening to these obscure topics. Pure mind candy.. thnx
I am becoming a big fan of Mr Lachman, reading my third book by him at the moment.
Jung has spent his entire life trying to scientifically investigate occultism and the paranormal. To assimilate the subconscious with the critical mind. That is the difference between Karl Jung and esotericism. Jung said in esotericism everything means everything.
My experiences with and in my dreams are very symilar to Jung, even been a ordinary down to earth woman and never had nothing to do Spiritualism but I had to understand why my unconscious mind was taking me to those paths. Very good discus it was. Thank you.
keep going - Jung will guide your search
@@truthlivingetc88 Why is this true? Why does this produce results?
I asked myself for a subconscious guide & am doing shadow-work, and my dreams are responding. Its like a coded conversation between my conscious & sub/unconscious. How is this possible, and how do I explore it deeper? Im doing the pre-requisite studies of Jungs material, but im wondering more of how the pragmatic applications of the theories work.
It is very well known in "developed psychic circles" that Jung stopped way short of what is required in relation to faith and understanding. In other words Jung got lost in his interpretative machinations at precisely the point at which many of us who are less experienced with danger than Jung was (psychiatric hospital environments a hundred or so years ago) could not afford the luxury of so doing. To keep it simple. This is a theological matter. And you might choose to pray that higher (Angelic) forces will guide you. I cannot put it more clearly than that. I have had a Philemon for thirty years but this is just not enough. Jung was a genius of interpretative healing. But his exquisite ignorance about the simple aspects of faith and prayer set a lamentably poor example at least in some key spiritual aspects. Listen or choose to learn the hard way. I chose Jung`s route. It has its dangers. Go directly to God. Do not fuck about !
Swedenborg: "We enter into the spiritual worlds through our own minds."
That's why mystics use visualization and mantras.
Lachmann's summary of Jung and the Nazis is spot on. He did make "injudicious statements", but was never an actual Nazi.
I'm glad that I knew JUST enough about the 60's / baby boomer era via my parents recollection...the sad thing is that not nearly enough of that "hippie" generation stuck to their guns...their optimistic beliefs and opinions. They all went conservative, conformed and focused on "keeping up with the jones'" once they "settled" "down" and started having families.
Makes me appreciate you guys that much more! Thanks for staying true to "free thinking" 💗
th-cam.com/video/eJ3RzGoQC4s/w-d-xo.html context
Not all Baby Boomers turned color. I blame those who voted for Reagan.
Not all, by a long shot, but sadly, too many.
I stuck to my guns,became an artist,have had a great life,ask me any question for I have had the most dangerous of all Occult experiences,Raising the Kundalini.L.oL!
@@charliemorris2338
Me too! Thats awesome!! See u on the other side brave friend ❤
"The archetype made me do it." I'm going to make use of that one.
Great guest. Great subject. Great interview
I love the story of Carl Jung's precognitive vision of the World War, and I've been meaning to use it in a novel I am writing (unrelated to Jung's life). It is such a mystical, yet poignant story.
Having had numerous hypnagogic and hynopompic episodes, I've learned that the mind will create tangible images for intangible concepts that are influenced by personal experiences or cultural beliefs, much like in a dream. These waking lucid dream experiences can be expanded in various ways with focused intentions.
This is what ive experienced, I asked myself for a subconscious guide and one was produced in a dream. How do I explore this deeper, in what manner do I need to structure my "focused intentions" in order to continue to produce results? As a HARDCORE skeptic the results deeply surprise me, how do I go deeper?
Regarding Jung's guru (Philemon) and how our thoughts are not personal/subjective, but rather they are available to everyone, an objective psyche / mind-at-large / pluralistic-universe... would have liked to have heard details about how to enter this consciousness (ex. via Herbert Silberer's Hypnagogia).
Fabulous, just fabulous
Wonderful interview! 👍
Thank you for the clarification on the definition of the collective consciousness. I thought it coincided more with the new age concept of oneness and found it to be disturbing as it suggested, to me, a loss of individuality. Having access to or emerged into a state of gnosis makes more sense.
Raising the Kundalini destroys the ego and you become like a "Doe in the Headlights" easy prey for psychopaths and Guru's.Oceanic bliss but at one hell of a price.Look up what they did to Peter Green,founder of Fleetwood Mac.There were many acid casualties in the 60s.Often loss of individuailty,look up "The Source Family" automatons,robots,Manson family robots that lost their ego's and killed others can Charlie couldn't get a record deal.
The collective unconscious can be seen as an awareness of quantum probabilities. Precognition, synchronicity, etc... can be seen as a collapse of the wave function as they manifest in conscious reality?
thanks , please continue with this fellow
Gary Lachman, Jeffrey Mishlove, awesome dialog! Some of best in Aions 🌞
That's wild about Wolfgang Pauli. The "Pauli effect". I don't remember that from my modern physics class!
These two do such good work. I have to support them.
There! just ordered "Jung the Mystic" through Amazon! Order it!!
And order a new copy, not a used one. No cheating!
I just finished reading 'Jung the Mystic'. Loved it! I had the most incredible experiences while reading this book. One, I almost never remember my dreams, but while reading this book, every time I woke from sleep, I could remember vivid dreams in great detail. When I finished the book, the experience stopped. Enjoy!
@@laurelharris8519 Very mysterious!
Many thanks.
Thank you so much for the work you are and have been doing! Your channel provides a tremendous relief from the regurgitated ideas advanced by “the culture industry” as Adorno and Horkheimer would put it. 👌🏿
Thank you both! 🙏🏻🦉🌟
That was fascinating. I'm going to listen to it again.
Oh yes. This is wonderful. Have you done a session on the Ted Book? Blessings and Appreciation to all involved .
Thank you very much, Jeffrey! The program is really exciting and enlightening. Gary Lachman is fantastic!
NTA panel discussion on the Red Book?
Please help fund a much needed Colin Wilson documentary:
Please talk about Jung for years and years thank you.
Be sure to check the video to be released on Dec 23, 2020.
Jung did see the hermetic Journey. Take a look at the Journey through the planetary houses in Mysterium Coniunctionis, Volume 14 of the collected Works of C. G Jung. Also Jung also was a professor at a university, but there he was getting questions that he could not answer. He was seeking questions so he left the university to study the unconscious of himself and others. This is his confrontation with the unconscious as he explains in Memories, Dreams, Reflections.
Jung is one of my spirit guides
Fabulous discussion🍃❣🍃
Gary Lachman should be given an honorary professorship in an ivy league university.
Thank you so much!
Carl Jung is my favorite ‼🤞🏾💯
Most brilliant thinker of the 20th century: Ramana Maharshi, the meeting with whom Jung skipped.
I wish Mr. Lachman would write a book on "Luciferians" clarifying what it currently means, what it used to mean and why this sudden trend of people labeling all the subjects he's written books on as "Satanic Luciferianism"?. Aside from Crowley, obviously, I just don't undertand how people could hold such conflicting views about the same thing, "New age enlightenment.. or the Devil"? example: I love The Never-ending Story which lead me to Steiner's Anthroposophy which Ive enjoyed studying and yet people online are adamant that its Satanic worship of Lucifer But It's Just Not; as with most New Age/Spiritualism concepts. What is the true "unbiased" historical view of the term Luciferian and where did the concepts originate?(without being taken out of context) You see my father is an Episcopal Priest and anthropologist who owns every one of those books in our home. I was mortified when my school freind wasn't allowed to spend the night after telling her mother of my dad's books. I've been trying to find answers myself but each point of veiw co-existing in civil disagreement just doesn't seem possible. I just want the truth, is that so hard! Lol sorry, I get really fustrated with this subject..What would Carl Jung have said about it all ?! (I should've been born in his era.)
Aren't those characters basically psychological projections? Where does one draw the line...what about Zeus?
Rebekah Scheible: Tell me, are you knowledgeable about the etymology of Lucifer? I agree there misunderstanding around this subject. After all the name and the concomitant cults have meant many things in many cultures and different times and predate the Old Testament by millennia. Are you interested in Jung?
@@ThePdeHav No. But I'm interested in learning. I'm trying to learn about as many theories and belief systems as possible. Peers in my field think we may be going extinct by 2026 due to massive toxic gas emissions from permafrost, Siberia, and the Arctic. That's worst case scenario. We have been lied to for so long many experts are even confused. Some are saying 2030...others saying definitely by 2050 because by then the oceans will be dead.
You're probably never going to find a real unbiased perspective on Luciferianism, I always thought it was a syncretism of Eastern Dharma religions and Christianity similar to how Tibetan Buddhism is a syncretism between Buddhism and the homegrown Tibetan beliefs like Bon - but I don't really know that's just what I had thought.
@@alcosmic It likely has different versions...possibly?
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For me, Jung is my touchstone. Having actually read his entire output and thought about his ideas a great deal, I attest his hugely non-trivial impact on my life. Two of my closest friends are psychiatrists, on in the UK, the other in the US, both are well versed in his concepts. Thus I haven’t experienced this idea he’s been sidelined, although from a subjective purview I understand this to hold water. His preface to the English translation of the I Ching and thus association with one of the symbols of the burgeoning 1960s New lAge culture didn’t him any favors with academia, Also, like Nietzsche and Proust, Joyce and Freud, he’s name dropped by intellectual Dullards and half assed New Agers. His most popular concepts were distorted badly as they travelled through late 20th century culture. His psychological taxonomy, for the want of a better phrase ( sleep deprived from jet lag ) is complex. To read him is one thing. More importantly is to think about his psychoanalytic concepts. Jung shares that thing with other great men of letters, that is, as one gets older one’s thoughts about him develop with time. Symbols Of Transformation is a good example. In fact I discarded his writing on Mandalas and the later writings about space aliens and UFOs until well into my forties. A bit like Blues Music, these later writings improve as one ages. Great discussion. Great Channel. Thanks so much for this Jeffrey and Gary.
Get out of the way!!!
Jung is MY intellectual huggy bear!!! not YOURS!!!
MINE!!!
Love me some Mishlovian-Lachman interchange...
Thanks
Fascinating stuff.
“That’s why he bring his own needles and gets more cheese than Doritos Cheetos or Fritos, slip like Freudian your first and last step to play yourself like an accordion” RIP Jung and MFDOOM
hello Gary. weren't you the Bassist in Blondie??? ☺
Obviously I was the singer.
@@GaryLachman you've got a NJ sense of humor. ☺ on that note, I live in Lambertville NJ and you're welcome to check out my collection of books. I am Wiccan but I also have a few rare publications by people of the Dianic and Rosicrucian traditions. -Michele
@@angussstudio6139 Thanks for the invitation.
@@GaryLachman Were you behind "Touched by Your Presence, Dear"? I notice that song contains a few things you talk about these days.
@@anonb4632 Yes, I wrote it.
Jung alluded to psychedelic drugs in writing about Aldous Huxley.
Good video. Keep them coming 🌗
Jung was seeking answers to questions he did not have the answer to which is why he quit his job as a professor.
On Alchemy and the Unconscious might the latter as Objective Mind correspond to the Lacanian Forbidden Real and thus resolve the issue of whether Alchemy is to do with physical or mind stuff?
Amazing!
Brilliant!
I just wish Jeffrey corrected him on his pronunciation of "archetype." Ar-kuh-type is correct, not ark-type.
Didn't know he "dabbled" in astrology as well and read his patients' charts! Well looking at his own natal chart, it's no surprise that he resisted the one thing he was very good at and came to him naturally for a long time. His sun in Leo is almost conjunct his descendant (what's known as your shadow side as he coined it) forming a trine to his MC. and Pars Fortuna is in Scorpio in his 9th house = deep exploration and expansion into the psyche is his natural talent! I'm surprised not to find much activity in Pisces or his 12th house though...
(at least according to this chart: www.astrotheme.com/images/zoom.php?p=rlW2VwbvZF4jZlVfVz4vBvWwVvjvLlV6VzZ3HaSYJQEKn04lFPVfVz8vBvVjsQS8ZKjjsQO8ZUjjsQO8ZUjjsQNjVa0)
And he also studied alchemy, the" I Ching"...
I could watch a 4 hr chat on this! Great conversation, as usual.
I'm an outsider also..rebels for life💪
so interesting thank you
Please invite Christopher Wallis to the show to talk about Tantra
Jordan Peterson is great fan of Jung, though he is considered part of right which may not appeal Jeffery's sensibilities He would be great guest, but I have read somewhere he is charging huge amount for appearance after achieving this celebrity status, and is being managed by Hollywood agents.
@@SlackKeyPaddy Thanks for pointing out this. My understanding of Jung and Peterson is limited to only youtube videos. After your pointing out I too remember I never heard him talking about anything except archetypes.
Not that it is relevant, as I watched this short video, your point became quite clear to me.
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@@SlackKeyPaddy Most of the descriptions I've seen of him don't match the man. I don't find him nearly as right wing as many claimed. I think the best thing he has been doing is criticising the encroachment of censorship and social control that has been happening in the last decade or so. He is right to point out it shares some of the worst aspects of Marxist thinking and strategy.
However, I wouldn't want him on this channel discussing Jung, because he has a good few outlets already. I disagree with some of his interpretations, but it is good to see Jungian notions such as the Shadow being introduced into mainstream discourse. He's right when he says many moderns have not dealt with the issue of their shadow, which is where a lot of their hatred comes from.
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Interesting but bad sound from Lachman
Chop Wood, Carry Water...
What happened in the interim, prior to the release of the red book, Jung had met his brother the Christ,.......and is he currently serving in the emancipation of Humanity into the Mercurial Mind, which is both Male and Female, whole brained,...the requirement for Ascension/Emancipation is resurrection into the Quintessence of the elements, the domain where we have moved beyond the senses, into non local mind and the understanding of universality,...........
You're using lots of loaded language that laymens like me will never understand. What is the quintessence of the elements? What is the Mercurial mind? What literal results are obtained from achieving your theory?
Didn't Colin Wilson throw shade on Dawkins and Arthur C .Clark for being idiots for not believing in god?
@RedemptionSoS Friend, take a hike with the Jew business already.
@RedemptionSoS Neither Wilson, Dawkins nor Clarke were remotely Jewish as far as I can tell.
Jung is the patron saint of madmen…..
Interesting, spared me some research, only the tone-quality was rather lousy.
I still miss the talk on Jung's love life... 🙄
I'm not listening to Jews complaining about Nazis anymore. It has to stop. I won't watch the rest of this now.
Heretic!
Which Jews were you referring to? I was brought up Catholic.
How about Aryans complaining about Nazis?
Or, sorry lets be more balanced and show some people complementing Nazis?
Oh, you are one of those relativists who are offended by everything, especially by truth. Btw, Jung wrote some great essays about the psychology of Nazism, you should really check it.
Jung also commented that Hitler seemed devoid of any real “ personal “ personality but was more of a possessed individual .
18th century dandy. : )
I mostly agree. But I think this lets him off the Nazi hook a bit too easily, there was a bit more dodginess there, particularly early on.
Lewis Connolly
Perhaps, I think we don’t know all the details. I took a class at the international Psychoanalytic institute in Berlin, and they discussed that Jung’s involvement helped save the lives of many of the Jewish psychologists of Berlin, and also became a way of preserving psychoanalysis during the Third Reich. The institute in Berlin continued during the Nazi regime and the only psychology permitted was „non-Jewish“. The general accepted narrative is his involvement was for humanistic reasons.
Again, Jung secretly worked for the OSS, the forerunner of the CIA , in providing psychological profiling of various Nazi figures for which he was given a commendation after the war for the value of his contributions.
In the book Aryan Christ, the author writes how Jung had a theory of an Aryan collective unconscious as well as a Semitic. After the war Jung dropped those ideas like a sack of potatoes and morphed into the wise old man we see today!
Lol "when Jung was uh... young"
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