Appreciate the comments on this one. You can definitely tell who the regular viewers are and people who have just found the channel 😅 Definitely a few 'Drive to Survive' fans in here rather than people who watch the racing for what it is... Just going to reiterate what I've said in one of the replies. My point is that he is pushing the limit of certain regs at the moment and there isn't a clear definition of whether or not what he is doing is 100% wrong or not (moving under braking). To me it is. To Andrea Stella and Anthony Davidson it is aswell. However, in his eyes, it isn't. If you want the opinion of 2 blokes with 11 world titles combined (or 12 if you're a realist) then watch this: th-cam.com/video/2xOrqJYdKA0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6W4V1Pdd3qtqPbbg And if you didn't watch the extremely well articulated points Andrea Stella made, watch this: th-cam.com/video/IKBq9PQYRCE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Vz-SGCJ3cZOy_Frt WARNING DO NOT WATCH EITHER VIDEO IF YOU ARE DUTCH YOUR HEAD MIGHT EXPLODE Much love 😘
Oh you collected some statements. Opposite of that are at least 16 current drivers that have no issue with Max and tell even after Mexico that it is on the edge but great and what makes a WC. You silly youtube hate campaigner 😂
0:11 absolutely not a chance this red bull has been the most dominant car of all time. That one comfortably goes to Mercedes especially the first covid year. Toto Wolff was literally telling his engineers to turn down those overpowered engines before FIA step in and regulate things.
I mean, it literally is proven to be the most dominant car of all time, but if you want to believe it's something else that's fine 😅 The Mercedes of 2016 had a closer win percentage to the RB19 with 90.5%, but that's still 5% off the RB from 2023 since it won 21 out of 22 races
@@lookship That was predominantly a case of Max being so good in a good car with consistency that is unmatched. Perez was struggling against the competition. Perez in my opinion is a slightly better driver than Bottas. Meanwhile Bottas was racking up second places very easily in those Merc days. It is a known thing as Paddy Lowe literally revealed that they'd purposely sand bag the engines.
@Pr0hunt3r18 well unfortunately for your arguement the dominance of a car is recorded in race wins and not average position across the 2 drivers. I mean I'll quite happily do a bit of research and possibly make a vid on it if you want?
@@lookship From all I know although that Red Bull was an amazing car it's gap to rivals was nowhere near as big as the one Merc had. Yes the car in Max's hands is the most dominant combination for a single year of all time and in huge part thanks to Max. Max is something else the way he lives and breathes racing he will just be better than in many ways than the competition. The guy wins Imola and then plays on the SIM till 4am. Lewis on the other hand was up to things like partying in Barbados with Rihanna and supposedly arriving on race day with a lot of jetlag etc. Max is just such a far cry from that. I respect and like Lewis for this though he's living a good life while Max has no life outside of racing 🤷♂️ that is what makes him the best in the world.
You are right in my opinion. I'm a Verstapped fan (biggest Piastri fan but I do think Max is amazing). But I HATE the moving in the braking zone. In karting over the last 40 years, there's a clear distinction between "defensive driving" and "blocking". Defensive driving is simply placing the car in a position that makes it hard or impossible ideally for the attacking car to make a passing move. It means things like driving closer to the apex on turns (not allowing a car's width on the inside) and tricks such as slowing the car on the apex so stop the attacking car being able to hit the accelerator at the wanted time to get the better exit due to the better entry. It is perfectly legal, and perfectly respected and used by me and has been used on me. BLOCKING is a different story and mostly involved reacting the the car behind and simply moving your car on the track (weaving) whenever necessary to prevent a pass. THAT is illegal and I think should be policed a hell of a lot more with Max. I'm also concerned with him passing Norris off-track when he was BEHIND at the apex, accelerated off the track around Norris to pass him back. Also illegal in my opinion and I would have thought black and white but he got away with that one also. Sucks. All the greats have done it in the past though, Senna, Schumacher all did dirty tricks and are multiple world champions. Sometimes you have to do what you've got to do to be deemed the best. Notice how there was no defending pretty much at all from Max at Silverstone? Wonder if he's been put on notice?
Great take 👍 Loved the included clips of incriminating evidence, makes me now wanna search for Max aggressive driving compilations and laugh/rage hysterically. Moving forward it’ll be interesting to see what the FIA do, if anything.
If you can brake on time for the apex so you can take it there is nothing wrong with aggressive driving... Otherwise the only overtakes we would see would be on straights with DRS which we all deemed boring a few years back
Every driver is aggressive 😂 it's called racing. Look at what Alonso does with break checking people in the turns. Drivers run each other wide all the time.
@@lookship he's playing with gray area in the rules. Just like what Verstappen does when changing trajectory in the braking zone. How can you say there's nothing wrong with what Alonso does and then complain about Max?? 😂😂 and don't you dare tell me Max causes crashes with his stunts and Alonso doesn't because he's the one the caused Russell to crash in Australia. It's all racecraft.
@@lookship also, he doesn't need to hit the brakes for it to be a brake check. Those cars generate thousands of pounds of downforce and drag. As soon as Alonso lets go of the accelerator, that car will start slowing down FAST, as if he was hitting the brakes.
@xXJerry202Xx the literal definition of a brake check is you dab the brakes. I know engine braking is mega on these things, for example when Vettel thought Hamilton brake checked him in Baku. However, Alonso doesn't actually slow down (lift off or brake) any more once he's reached the speed he turns in at, its been covered in the past by the pundits. He just speeds up further around the apex to cover the overtake. Exceptionally smart defensive driving and nowhere near the limits of any regulations, unlike the point I was making in the video.
@@lookship if it's not near the limits of any regulations, why did he get a 20 sec penalty for what happened with Russell? Yes, he was trying to get the best exit but that's just racecraft. Same as Verstappen turning his wheel right before entering the braking zone. The other drivers already know he does that, just like they know Alonso's driving style. Or how Magnussen will push you off to stay ahead. Just be the better racer. To say it's ruining Formula 1 is kinda ridiculous because that's what fans like, seeing drivers outsmart each other or who's going to hang around the outside while being pushed out. Also, obviously the literal definition is pressing the brakes but it's still the same effect in the end 🙄car ahead slows down unexpectedly. That's just arguing semantics.
Honestly if the stewards/FIA actively punished this style of driving and did so on time, it wouldn’t be an issue. These guys are racers and competitive as they come, they will do anything to win and I don’t hate that. I agree that that level of aggression is over the line but it’s up to the governing body to police it. For too long they’ve been too relaxed and this is a consequence of their incompetence, Max is just operating within precedent so I cannot fault him as an individual competitor.
Max Crashtappen was given this nickname because his driving wheel to wheel standard is so poor. The FIA let him get away with it time after time (Cough * Michael Masi) and Christian "Dic Pic" Horner defends it like he protects his outbox folder on his phone. Crashtappen should have had multiple penalties in Austria, but the FIA, as per usual, $hit their pants and don't want the backlash from Redbull.
I don't think Max has ever cared what you think or what fans or even other drivers think. All he cares about is winning. So people can complain about "It's a bad look" etc...he has won 60+ races, has multiple records and will be a 4x Champion this year..that is all he cares about. A goo sportsaman exploits the rules to the their fullest extent and Max does that best since Schumacher retired. I have no issue with it. Norris wasn't tactical enough in his attack and was baited into losing more ground in the championship at the end the day
There's a fine line between driving hard/racing and just stopping anyone from overtaking by pushing them off the track, but Max is dangerously on the wrong side of the line as his only real driving technique. Max really isn't a great driver, having the fastest qualifying car and then pushing anyone off the track who tries to overtake isn't talent. Sorry, but it just isn't. The regs do need to change so we can get back to real racing, rather than Max's bumper car style.
I agree that Max is very aggressive, sometimes even too aggressive. But just look at Silverstone last weekend, he let's Norris go without any sqeeze or anything. And let's not pretend that all the other drivers are not also pushing others off. For example Norris in that very battle you showed, he also did break as late as possible to push Max off. I just think that if you have tryhard pro drivers and you give them shit rules and stewards like the FIA does, these winners will all exploit it. And please don't call me a Max fanboy, I like him but Norris is my fav driver❤
Excelent video. Always stop by for the Honda Acty videos, which are top notch, but this F1 video is awesome, I would love to see more of this in the future. Re the Verstappen moves, I really want to see Verstappen at a different team, I think Horner and RB enable and encourage this sort of attitude from Max. Dare I say Vettel was similar when he was in a RB, the driver thinking they are bigger than the team and that being nurtured by Horner. Despite no more driver championships Vettel became an even more incredible racer and asset after leaving RB both off and on the track. Of course RB can and should fight against any potential penalty as any F1 team should do, but when its the same incident time and time again they need to start looking at fixing the issue and pointing the finger at the common denominator....Max. Normally it should and would result in loosing points because of the incidents but it rarely does because of a hell of a lot of luck.
Cheers, Jake. I appreciate that 🙏 Vettel was definitely just as spicy behind the wheel as Max is. Deliberately driving into Hamilton at Baku springs to mind 😅 He may have been a bit hot-headed from time to time, but he was generally respectful when it came to clean, close racing. Max doesn't need to change the way he drives when you have a team that encourages it and a governing body that, for some reason, up until this point has turned a blind eye to most incidents and when he has been punished they've been extremely lenient.
@@lookship Im going back a little further when Vettel was winning championships with Red Bull. Turkey 2010 Vettel was racing Webber, Seb clearly turned into him on the straight....Helmut Marko blamed it all on Webber, and very vocally so in the media. Or Malaysia 2013 with the 'Multi 21' drama, Vettel was given direct team orders to stay behind Webber, but disobeyed them despite numerous warnings. After the race there was no real reprimand against Vettel for his actions (even though seb did appologise for his descisions) and it went on to lead to a lot of bad blood between both sides of the RB garage for the rest of the season, with webber claiming Seb would get "protection as usual"
@shandermunizalvarado totally agree with you. But open wheel racing isn't a contact sport like Nascar or Touring cars. That's where the proper racing happens imo. If youve got bumpers, use em 😂
@fsconsultantcy2559 he's a man who sits on the McLaren pit wall, shouts 'WOOO' every time the cars go past and high fives literally everyone. Everyone should be like Zak Brown.
@philedwards0411 you're not allowed to have that opinion, mate. Even if you make a well articulated 8-minute long video with many examples of him driving poorly, you'll be called biased for either being British or for simple supporting 1 one the 9 other teams on the grid 😂
Senna had a similar driving style where he left the decision to crash or give the position up to the other driver, and he's one of the greats... It's just racing
Just a reminder, F1 drivers used to be more aggressive even before hamilton era, my guy this is the worst F1 era because no one is able to admit that Verstappen is the best driver, let's face it, you put Max driving Williams car and he will definitely win a race lol, Mclaren has the best car these days, Mercedes is super fast as well and what happens? Verstappen manages to win races, can you even explain why Lando didn't get any penalty driving to the pit lane with the damaged car, and perez received a penalty for the exact same event, smh
"can you even explain why Lando didn't get any penalty driving to the pit lane with the damaged car, and perez received a penalty for the exact same event". Yes, you need to read the infringement. The rear wing was deemed unsafe (able to fall off) on Perez's car. Norris did not have bits ready to fall off. It's as simple as that. Somebody posted Perez's official infringement notice somewhere and I read it but can't locate it at the moment if I do I'll post it.
If Checo pulled over, the safety car would have been brought out to recover the car, bunching up the field. Dare I say he would have been one strike closer to the firing line if he didn't limp back to the pits in Spain... Also, there's nowhere in this video where I deny how good of a driver Max is. Easy Top 3 driver on the grid if you're putting everyone in equal cars. Yes, he's aggressive, but there have been more aggressive drivers in the past. My point is that he is pushing the limit of certain regs at the moment and there isn't a clear definition of whether or not what he is doing is 100% wrong or not. To me it is. To Andrea Stella and Anthony Davidson it is aswell. However, in his eyes, it isn't.
Most stupid opinion ever heard. Max is driving hard and as you say yourself, the rules allow him. Other drivers hail his driving and explain that's what makes a WC. You are a Sky impersonator and a bad one also 😂
I thought I'd made a pretty well articulated argument with evidence to back up my point, to be honest. Crazy how having an opinion generates so much hate.
Don't act like a victim. When you out a strong statement like that you get reactions. Secondly you prove nothing with snapshots from races. You could create content like this for most of the drivers including Hamilton. I dont give you hate but just call it stupid opinion that adds nothing to F1 analysis.
@MarkRidder 1. I wasn't acting like a victim. 2. Yes, out of context screenshots don't paint the entire picture. However, you can go watch the video replays instead, and it's as I described with the screenshots. Unfortunately, I can't repost a Sky Sports video because of copyright, otherwise I would have...
Verstappen have been winning races long before he had the best car of the grid, so your video doesnt.ale much sense... And Pérez is paying for his aeat in RB
Nowhere in this video did I deny Max was unworthy of his race wins, he is astonishingly fast. But his driving style (as suggested in the title) is brazen, to be polite. He pushes the boundaries of the racing regulations which is totally fine and he's within his rights to do so, but as I mention later in the video, he is pushing his luck with his interpretation of the 'no moving under braking' rule by aiming his car towards an opponent before applying the brakes.
The rule isnt about moving under braking.....It is moving 'once deceleration has commenced' which doesnt make any difference in terms of the Austria move, but it does make a difference to Max's answer about turning and then braking. It is also, apparently, not a 'rule' it is a 'guideline'.....Somehow certains fans have been saying that makes a difference......Which it doesn't because a penalty can be given for it. Anyhoo......I just wanted to point these things out as they are often used in an arguement over where Max has never done anything wrong......ever, and all British people are arseholes.
@@lookship so your saying he can drive wheel to wheel? his 'moving under breaking' is just a point-and-jink tactic, almost every great driver from the past 10 years does it. you could make this exact same video for most of the drivers on the current grid. The only thing that isn't horribly bias in this video is the 'Verstappen rule' when he WAS moving heavily under breaking. the main point your making isn't specifically wrong, but the title should be "Aggressive driving is RUINING formula 1" instead of trying to highlight max as the only person that does it. You refused to even mention that most of the current grid + ex drivers all said what max is doing is fine, almost everyone is clowning on British media for them blowing it out of proportion, even Lando said it was just hard racing. I respect the video and the points your making aren't wrong, but you cant just say 1 driver cant race wheel to wheel when multiple drivers do the exact same thing every race.
@rester3577 I don't believe that every great driver has been proven to break the racing regulations as consistently as Max though as you claim. Yes, he's not guilty of being the only person to overtake by pushing opponents wide, but I used those examples to show how he is willing to do just about anything to be ahead. If the other drivers didn't back out of the manoeuvres initiated by Max, most of the time, there would be contact, which is a dangerous way to consistently drive. The final point of him moving under braking is the whole point of the video (I just wanted to give a few examples of his uncompromising driving style building upto it) and defensive tactics are 50% of racing wheel to wheel, which we will see more often now the rest if the grid are starting to catch Red Bull back up.
For the "they call it racing" brigade, there is loads and loads of footage of overtakes and defending that is 100% legal and what makes F1. Unfortunately, there is also an increasing amount of "dive bombing", forcing a driver off the track, squeezing driver's into a wall, brake testing, "back off; get out of my way or we'll crash" etc. These incidents are NOT racing incidents and may be "exciting" to some fans out there, but not a real F1 fan. When one driver is guilty of a "driving style" that in attacking forces his opponent off the track or a crash, he should be punished. If he does something similar to defend his position, he should be punished. It's as simple as that.
Appreciate the comments on this one. You can definitely tell who the regular viewers are and people who have just found the channel 😅
Definitely a few 'Drive to Survive' fans in here rather than people who watch the racing for what it is...
Just going to reiterate what I've said in one of the replies. My point is that he is pushing the limit of certain regs at the moment and there isn't a clear definition of whether or not what he is doing is 100% wrong or not (moving under braking). To me it is. To Andrea Stella and Anthony Davidson it is aswell. However, in his eyes, it isn't.
If you want the opinion of 2 blokes with 11 world titles combined (or 12 if you're a realist) then watch this:
th-cam.com/video/2xOrqJYdKA0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6W4V1Pdd3qtqPbbg
And if you didn't watch the extremely well articulated points Andrea Stella made, watch this:
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WARNING DO NOT WATCH EITHER VIDEO IF YOU ARE DUTCH YOUR HEAD MIGHT EXPLODE
Much love 😘
Oh you collected some statements. Opposite of that are at least 16 current drivers that have no issue with Max and tell even after Mexico that it is on the edge but great and what makes a WC. You silly youtube hate campaigner 😂
0:11 absolutely not a chance this red bull has been the most dominant car of all time.
That one comfortably goes to Mercedes especially the first covid year.
Toto Wolff was literally telling his engineers to turn down those overpowered engines before FIA step in and regulate things.
I mean, it literally is proven to be the most dominant car of all time, but if you want to believe it's something else that's fine 😅
The Mercedes of 2016 had a closer win percentage to the RB19 with 90.5%, but that's still 5% off the RB from 2023 since it won 21 out of 22 races
@@lookship That was predominantly a case of Max being so good in a good car with consistency that is unmatched.
Perez was struggling against the competition. Perez in my opinion is a slightly better driver than Bottas. Meanwhile Bottas was racking up second places very easily in those Merc days. It is a known thing as Paddy Lowe literally revealed that they'd purposely sand bag the engines.
@Pr0hunt3r18 well unfortunately for your arguement the dominance of a car is recorded in race wins and not average position across the 2 drivers. I mean I'll quite happily do a bit of research and possibly make a vid on it if you want?
@@lookship From all I know although that Red Bull was an amazing car it's gap to rivals was nowhere near as big as the one Merc had.
Yes the car in Max's hands is the most dominant combination for a single year of all time and in huge part thanks to Max.
Max is something else the way he lives and breathes racing he will just be better than in many ways than the competition. The guy wins Imola and then plays on the SIM till 4am.
Lewis on the other hand was up to things like partying in Barbados with Rihanna and supposedly arriving on race day with a lot of jetlag etc. Max is just such a far cry from that. I respect and like Lewis for this though he's living a good life while Max has no life outside of racing 🤷♂️ that is what makes him the best in the world.
You are right in my opinion. I'm a Verstapped fan (biggest Piastri fan but I do think Max is amazing). But I HATE the moving in the braking zone. In karting over the last 40 years, there's a clear distinction between "defensive driving" and "blocking". Defensive driving is simply placing the car in a position that makes it hard or impossible ideally for the attacking car to make a passing move. It means things like driving closer to the apex on turns (not allowing a car's width on the inside) and tricks such as slowing the car on the apex so stop the attacking car being able to hit the accelerator at the wanted time to get the better exit due to the better entry. It is perfectly legal, and perfectly respected and used by me and has been used on me. BLOCKING is a different story and mostly involved reacting the the car behind and simply moving your car on the track (weaving) whenever necessary to prevent a pass. THAT is illegal and I think should be policed a hell of a lot more with Max. I'm also concerned with him passing Norris off-track when he was BEHIND at the apex, accelerated off the track around Norris to pass him back. Also illegal in my opinion and I would have thought black and white but he got away with that one also. Sucks. All the greats have done it in the past though, Senna, Schumacher all did dirty tricks and are multiple world champions. Sometimes you have to do what you've got to do to be deemed the best. Notice how there was no defending pretty much at all from Max at Silverstone? Wonder if he's been put on notice?
Alonso is the KING of slowing people down on the apex, such a good defensive trait to have.
Silverstone has was too slow to defend adn therefore elected not to lose laptime keeping much faster cars behind
Great take 👍
Loved the included clips of incriminating evidence, makes me now wanna search for Max aggressive driving compilations and laugh/rage hysterically.
Moving forward it’ll be interesting to see what the FIA do, if anything.
Change the rule back. Dont understand why did they change the make space rule.
If you can brake on time for the apex so you can take it there is nothing wrong with aggressive driving... Otherwise the only overtakes we would see would be on straights with DRS which we all deemed boring a few years back
What absolute crap
What point do you disagree with?
@@lookship That Verstappen is overly aggressive
@PointNemo9 please watch
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Every driver is aggressive 😂 it's called racing. Look at what Alonso does with break checking people in the turns. Drivers run each other wide all the time.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Alonso does mid corner whilst defending. Can't be a brake check if you don't hit the brakes 💁♂️
@@lookship he's playing with gray area in the rules. Just like what Verstappen does when changing trajectory in the braking zone. How can you say there's nothing wrong with what Alonso does and then complain about Max?? 😂😂 and don't you dare tell me Max causes crashes with his stunts and Alonso doesn't because he's the one the caused Russell to crash in Australia.
It's all racecraft.
@@lookship also, he doesn't need to hit the brakes for it to be a brake check. Those cars generate thousands of pounds of downforce and drag. As soon as Alonso lets go of the accelerator, that car will start slowing down FAST, as if he was hitting the brakes.
@xXJerry202Xx the literal definition of a brake check is you dab the brakes. I know engine braking is mega on these things, for example when Vettel thought Hamilton brake checked him in Baku.
However, Alonso doesn't actually slow down (lift off or brake) any more once he's reached the speed he turns in at, its been covered in the past by the pundits. He just speeds up further around the apex to cover the overtake. Exceptionally smart defensive driving and nowhere near the limits of any regulations, unlike the point I was making in the video.
@@lookship if it's not near the limits of any regulations, why did he get a 20 sec penalty for what happened with Russell? Yes, he was trying to get the best exit but that's just racecraft. Same as Verstappen turning his wheel right before entering the braking zone. The other drivers already know he does that, just like they know Alonso's driving style. Or how Magnussen will push you off to stay ahead. Just be the better racer. To say it's ruining Formula 1 is kinda ridiculous because that's what fans like, seeing drivers outsmart each other or who's going to hang around the outside while being pushed out.
Also, obviously the literal definition is pressing the brakes but it's still the same effect in the end 🙄car ahead slows down unexpectedly. That's just arguing semantics.
Honestly if the stewards/FIA actively punished this style of driving and did so on time, it wouldn’t be an issue. These guys are racers and competitive as they come, they will do anything to win and I don’t hate that. I agree that that level of aggression is over the line but it’s up to the governing body to police it. For too long they’ve been too relaxed and this is a consequence of their incompetence, Max is just operating within precedent so I cannot fault him as an individual competitor.
Totally agree. If his interpretation of a rule isn't acknowledged as being wrong by the FIA, he's going to just continue driving that way.
Max Crashtappen was given this nickname because his driving wheel to wheel standard is so poor.
The FIA let him get away with it time after time (Cough * Michael Masi) and Christian "Dic Pic" Horner defends it like he protects his outbox folder on his phone.
Crashtappen should have had multiple penalties in Austria, but the FIA, as per usual, $hit their pants and don't want the backlash from Redbull.
I don't think Max has ever cared what you think or what fans or even other drivers think. All he cares about is winning. So people can complain about "It's a bad look" etc...he has won 60+ races, has multiple records and will be a 4x Champion this year..that is all he cares about.
A goo sportsaman exploits the rules to the their fullest extent and Max does that best since Schumacher retired.
I have no issue with it. Norris wasn't tactical enough in his attack and was baited into losing more ground in the championship at the end the day
There's still time to delete this mate, I'd do it and fast.
@jonnywalker3208 absolutely not I will die on this hill like a man
There's a fine line between driving hard/racing and just stopping anyone from overtaking by pushing them off the track, but Max is dangerously on the wrong side of the line as his only real driving technique. Max really isn't a great driver, having the fastest qualifying car and then pushing anyone off the track who tries to overtake isn't talent. Sorry, but it just isn't. The regs do need to change so we can get back to real racing, rather than Max's bumper car style.
Max will likely retire as the GOAT on his current pace anyway..so not bad for a guy that apprently doesn't know how to drive lol
At least something happens with Max. Would you rather they just drive around in circles. Read Peter Windsor's comments about Max.
I agree that Max is very aggressive, sometimes even too aggressive. But just look at Silverstone last weekend, he let's Norris go without any sqeeze or anything.
And let's not pretend that all the other drivers are not also pushing others off. For example Norris in that very battle you showed, he also did break as late as possible to push Max off.
I just think that if you have tryhard pro drivers and you give them shit rules and stewards like the FIA does, these winners will all exploit it. And please don't call me a Max fanboy, I like him but Norris is my fav driver❤
Excelent video. Always stop by for the Honda Acty videos, which are top notch, but this F1 video is awesome, I would love to see more of this in the future.
Re the Verstappen moves, I really want to see Verstappen at a different team, I think Horner and RB enable and encourage this sort of attitude from Max. Dare I say Vettel was similar when he was in a RB, the driver thinking they are bigger than the team and that being nurtured by Horner. Despite no more driver championships Vettel became an even more incredible racer and asset after leaving RB both off and on the track.
Of course RB can and should fight against any potential penalty as any F1 team should do, but when its the same incident time and time again they need to start looking at fixing the issue and pointing the finger at the common denominator....Max. Normally it should and would result in loosing points because of the incidents but it rarely does because of a hell of a lot of luck.
Cheers, Jake. I appreciate that 🙏
Vettel was definitely just as spicy behind the wheel as Max is. Deliberately driving into Hamilton at Baku springs to mind 😅
He may have been a bit hot-headed from time to time, but he was generally respectful when it came to clean, close racing.
Max doesn't need to change the way he drives when you have a team that encourages it and a governing body that, for some reason, up until this point has turned a blind eye to most incidents and when he has been punished they've been extremely lenient.
@@lookship Im going back a little further when Vettel was winning championships with Red Bull.
Turkey 2010 Vettel was racing Webber, Seb clearly turned into him on the straight....Helmut Marko blamed it all on Webber, and very vocally so in the media.
Or Malaysia 2013 with the 'Multi 21' drama, Vettel was given direct team orders to stay behind Webber, but disobeyed them despite numerous warnings. After the race there was no real reprimand against Vettel for his actions (even though seb did appologise for his descisions) and it went on to lead to a lot of bad blood between both sides of the RB garage for the rest of the season, with webber claiming Seb would get "protection as usual"
here for the tash
big love
People need to watch other motorsports to see real agresive driving
@shandermunizalvarado totally agree with you. But open wheel racing isn't a contact sport like Nascar or Touring cars.
That's where the proper racing happens imo. If youve got bumpers, use em 😂
whos Zak Brown
@fsconsultantcy2559 he's a man who sits on the McLaren pit wall, shouts 'WOOO' every time the cars go past and high fives literally everyone. Everyone should be like Zak Brown.
Agreed.
I'm all for good, competitive, close racing but he's a kamikaze pilot when it comes down to it. Then spits his dummy out like a spoilt brat.
@philedwards0411 you're not allowed to have that opinion, mate. Even if you make a well articulated 8-minute long video with many examples of him driving poorly, you'll be called biased for either being British or for simple supporting 1 one the 9 other teams on the grid 😂
Ur probably a Lewis Hamilton fanboy
@@akee27thatme43 God forbid someone support one of the other drivers on the grid
@@lookshipsupport is fine hating isn’t with u making videos like this ur just allowing people to further hate
I mean look at the comments
Senna had a similar driving style where he left the decision to crash or give the position up to the other driver, and he's one of the greats... It's just racing
Just a reminder, F1 drivers used to be more aggressive even before hamilton era, my guy this is the worst F1 era because no one is able to admit that Verstappen is the best driver, let's face it, you put Max driving Williams car and he will definitely win a race lol, Mclaren has the best car these days, Mercedes is super fast as well and what happens? Verstappen manages to win races, can you even explain why Lando didn't get any penalty driving to the pit lane with the damaged car, and perez received a penalty for the exact same event, smh
"can you even explain why Lando didn't get any penalty driving to the pit lane with the damaged car, and perez received a penalty for the exact same event". Yes, you need to read the infringement. The rear wing was deemed unsafe (able to fall off) on Perez's car. Norris did not have bits ready to fall off. It's as simple as that. Somebody posted Perez's official infringement notice somewhere and I read it but can't locate it at the moment if I do I'll post it.
If Checo pulled over, the safety car would have been brought out to recover the car, bunching up the field. Dare I say he would have been one strike closer to the firing line if he didn't limp back to the pits in Spain...
Also, there's nowhere in this video where I deny how good of a driver Max is. Easy Top 3 driver on the grid if you're putting everyone in equal cars. Yes, he's aggressive, but there have been more aggressive drivers in the past. My point is that he is pushing the limit of certain regs at the moment and there isn't a clear definition of whether or not what he is doing is 100% wrong or not. To me it is. To Andrea Stella and Anthony Davidson it is aswell. However, in his eyes, it isn't.
nice hairline 😊
@@Xroikon94 real men dont go to Turkey. They embrace the egg 🥚
Most stupid opinion ever heard. Max is driving hard and as you say yourself, the rules allow him. Other drivers hail his driving and explain that's what makes a WC. You are a Sky impersonator and a bad one also 😂
I thought I'd made a pretty well articulated argument with evidence to back up my point, to be honest. Crazy how having an opinion generates so much hate.
Don't act like a victim. When you out a strong statement like that you get reactions. Secondly you prove nothing with snapshots from races. You could create content like this for most of the drivers including Hamilton. I dont give you hate but just call it stupid opinion that adds nothing to F1 analysis.
@MarkRidder 1. I wasn't acting like a victim.
2. Yes, out of context screenshots don't paint the entire picture. However, you can go watch the video replays instead, and it's as I described with the screenshots. Unfortunately, I can't repost a Sky Sports video because of copyright, otherwise I would have...
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THANK YOU! finally someone talks about it!
everybody's been ranting about this for 2 weeks/3years lol where have you been
Verstappen have been winning races long before he had the best car of the grid, so your video doesnt.ale much sense... And Pérez is paying for his aeat in RB
Nowhere in this video did I deny Max was unworthy of his race wins, he is astonishingly fast.
But his driving style (as suggested in the title) is brazen, to be polite. He pushes the boundaries of the racing regulations which is totally fine and he's within his rights to do so, but as I mention later in the video, he is pushing his luck with his interpretation of the 'no moving under braking' rule by aiming his car towards an opponent before applying the brakes.
The rule isnt about moving under braking.....It is moving 'once deceleration has commenced' which doesnt make any difference in terms of the Austria move, but it does make a difference to Max's answer about turning and then braking.
It is also, apparently, not a 'rule' it is a 'guideline'.....Somehow certains fans have been saying that makes a difference......Which it doesn't because a penalty can be given for it.
Anyhoo......I just wanted to point these things out as they are often used in an arguement over where Max has never done anything wrong......ever, and all British people are arseholes.
@@lookship and he is capable of overtaking.
@@lookship so your saying he can drive wheel to wheel? his 'moving under breaking' is just a point-and-jink tactic, almost every great driver from the past 10 years does it. you could make this exact same video for most of the drivers on the current grid. The only thing that isn't horribly bias in this video is the 'Verstappen rule' when he WAS moving heavily under breaking. the main point your making isn't specifically wrong, but the title should be "Aggressive driving is RUINING formula 1" instead of trying to highlight max as the only person that does it. You refused to even mention that most of the current grid + ex drivers all said what max is doing is fine, almost everyone is clowning on British media for them blowing it out of proportion, even Lando said it was just hard racing. I respect the video and the points your making aren't wrong, but you cant just say 1 driver cant race wheel to wheel when multiple drivers do the exact same thing every race.
@rester3577 I don't believe that every great driver has been proven to break the racing regulations as consistently as Max though as you claim.
Yes, he's not guilty of being the only person to overtake by pushing opponents wide, but I used those examples to show how he is willing to do just about anything to be ahead. If the other drivers didn't back out of the manoeuvres initiated by Max, most of the time, there would be contact, which is a dangerous way to consistently drive.
The final point of him moving under braking is the whole point of the video (I just wanted to give a few examples of his uncompromising driving style building upto it) and defensive tactics are 50% of racing wheel to wheel, which we will see more often now the rest if the grid are starting to catch Red Bull back up.
For the "they call it racing" brigade, there is loads and loads of footage of overtakes and defending that is 100% legal and what makes F1. Unfortunately, there is also an increasing amount of "dive bombing", forcing a driver off the track, squeezing driver's into a wall, brake testing, "back off; get out of my way or we'll crash" etc. These incidents are NOT racing incidents and may be "exciting" to some fans out there, but not a real F1 fan. When one driver is guilty of a "driving style" that in attacking forces his opponent off the track or a crash, he should be punished. If he does something similar to defend his position, he should be punished. It's as simple as that.