How Stabilisers Reduce A Ship's Roll

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    Stabilisers are used to reduce the amount of roll experienced by large ships.
    In this video, we look at a few different stabilisation techniques. We investigate how different methods work and how successful they are at reducing a roll.
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  • @CasualNavigation
    @CasualNavigation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +879

    Thanks again for the amazing response to this video.
    Just to clarify a few things that have come up a lot in the comments.
    The centre of gravity and the centre of buoyancy are the correct way round in this video. Check out one of my earlier videos too see how it works: th-cam.com/video/DPV_VjzU9kE/w-d-xo.html
    The stabilisers are a little confusing in the animation. They do twist rather than flap up and down. I struggled to animate the twisting motion when viewed from ahead so exaggerated the up and down element instead. Apologies for any confusion caused.

    • @ianmcshane9664
      @ianmcshane9664 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow lot of text

    • @portmanteau.
      @portmanteau. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just add real life photos or videos next time.

    • @Tony-.
      @Tony-. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      No-no-no, it's thank You for intelligible illustration

    • @GrzegorzDurda
      @GrzegorzDurda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Id bet that if the stabilizer fin was twice the length it would operate at half the minimum speed. In the end it's just a wing and identical in function to an airplane's. It's the same fluid dynamics.

    • @vsarritz
      @vsarritz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thanks for the great video! If I may point out a very minor omission though, I think gyroscopic stabilisers deserved a mention. Albeit now mainly used in yachts, enormous gyroscopes were in fact installed on the transatlantic liner ‘Conte di Savoia’ in 1932.

  • @Orygoldminecraft
    @Orygoldminecraft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5263

    Thank you, i was having trouble stabilising my cruise ship in rough waters

    • @calebprouty288
      @calebprouty288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      Yahya. M. Everyday problems am I right

    • @gfries4906
      @gfries4906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +214

      @@calebprouty288 yeah bro i just hate it when im piloting my cruise ship and it starts shifting everywhere man

    • @stew3b
      @stew3b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Yeah bro,I hate it when my cruise ship capsizes and sinks

    • @KillMxrgue
      @KillMxrgue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Yea man I'm drunk asf sailing my big ass ship and my boat flips and I fall in the ocean ya know like we all can relate now I got my stabilizers I'm totally not tired asf and trying to find nun to fall asleep to

    • @cd2048hfkdndj
      @cd2048hfkdndj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Just another everyday situation right😂

  • @loonari2476
    @loonari2476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4170

    We need human stabalizers for drunk people, underrated channel

    • @BrianYYH
      @BrianYYH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      Lol alcohol turns people's stabilizers off

    • @johnrickard8512
      @johnrickard8512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Drunk people on a cruise ship? nooooo

    • @welshpete12
      @welshpete12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yep , fit them with giros !

    • @iamf6641
      @iamf6641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      gravity does not exist

    • @TheJere213
      @TheJere213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      People have integrated stabilizers but some choose to disable them momentarily with alcohol ;)

  • @Unformed8
    @Unformed8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    Oh no... Not one of these channels, where my life has nothing to do with it even remotely but videos are fascinating enough I just keep watching...

    • @flitsertheo
      @flitsertheo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In my life on the other hand I can remember my last "ride" on the North Sea with those stabilizers at work. Little foaming waves you didn't even see, though seemingly the ship's stabilizers had problems with those. Result, the ship rolling heavily from one side to another, each time being abruptly stopped in its roll by the stabilizers . Very unpleasant. In the souvenir the floor was littered with items which had flown from the shelves and a fridge on wheels was rolling freely through the restaurant. We arrived with a 4 hours delay.

    • @paulwilhelmsen6586
      @paulwilhelmsen6586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I watch so many educational videos on subjects that have no relation to my life it’s almost funny. A ‘for instance’ I live in Utah in the USA, one of the driest places in the country, I’ve never even touched the controls of a boat, but still this video has gotten me thinking about how these systems work; also fluid dynamics apply to air, and boy do we have plenty of room to fly things here :). I wonder if any form of passive control could be created for air flight stabilization from wind ....?
      Great video! I love learning from creators like this, those who even if they are very understated in their tone, clearly convey the breadth of knowledge they carry.

  • @lucliebelin7416
    @lucliebelin7416 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    There's one system you have forgotten to talk about.
    In the big military ships, mostly the aircraft carriers, there's an active stability system also, and it must be very effective for the planes to land safely, even in rough weather. Inside the hull, between the center of buoyancy and the centre of gravity, there's two sets of rails going perpendicularly from the center axis, side to side. On these rails, there's one big mass which is moved by computers in the opposite direction of the waves.

    • @GamesFromSpace
      @GamesFromSpace ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That's functionally the same as the water pumping stabilizers. Just moving mass around inside the ship.

    • @chilfang2422
      @chilfang2422 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      tall buildings have those too!

    • @junovzla
      @junovzla ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@chilfang2422 Tall Buildings generally use the mass dampener tho, which is just a very big ball of something heavy hanging on pistons, so that when the top of the building moves the mass is used to pull the building in the other direction. The Burj Khalifa notably lacks this, and instead uses its spiral shape to redirect windflow so it doesn't really swing a lot anyway (of course this would be a disadvantage in an earthquake)

  • @sakiv9275
    @sakiv9275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2020

    This is very simple presentation of most difficult subject.

    • @radjared
      @radjared 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it could of been simpler

    • @EatMyYeeties
      @EatMyYeeties 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

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    • @scottwhitley3392
      @scottwhitley3392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      J Magnums ships stability is a very hard and long subject, this video barely scratches the surface

    • @bubbles7608
      @bubbles7608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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      @RB-mm7ce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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  • @VSO_Gun_Channel
    @VSO_Gun_Channel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    Learning has occurred

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      @notalemon2899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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    • @sofloflow
      @sofloflow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny seeing you here

    • @umarmars47
      @umarmars47 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gyro for MG recoil. Idea.

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      @dragon.fromindia3235 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @AGENT47ist
    @AGENT47ist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    At my Navy school we do a lesson called "Stability", it full of calculations but in theory this video is a pretty good presentation of how a ship rolls and how the stability is calculatesd. Well done on the images

  • @Scji2
    @Scji2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    This is a myth, stabilisers are in fact a lot of fat people (called Stabilons) on the ship who run from side to side, this is very well hidden as they do it underneath the deck. I would know, I was a Stabilon, they force fed us to keep us fat from all the running 😔

    • @ronjose51
      @ronjose51 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

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    • @ASunnyWorld
      @ASunnyWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I heard your mother alone was enough to stabilize the biggest ship in the world

    • @hobbyhermit66
      @hobbyhermit66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I read about your plight in Reader's Digest. Must have been horrible.

    • @Scji2
      @Scji2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fred Lamb thanks for your condolences

    • @Scji2
      @Scji2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Vevey women weren’t allowed to work on the ship, bare in mind these were olden times

  • @sayethwe8683
    @sayethwe8683 5 ปีที่แล้ว +982

    the noise at 1:15 is glorious

    • @samuelmatheson9655
      @samuelmatheson9655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Container ship be like "Queef noises"

    • @scortexfire
      @scortexfire 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      *Fat fart.*

    • @thisguy9042
      @thisguy9042 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@scortexfire wet fart😁

    • @downfromthereeefters
      @downfromthereeefters 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      After a long night of whiskey and taco bell

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      @imwavyyy9910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @daciamcv1026
    @daciamcv1026 5 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    The fin stabilisers were first used on royal navy missile ships in the 1960's they were used to hold the ship steady while it launched it missiles one of the first non navy ships that had this system was the Royal Yacht Britannia . I was an electronic wireman working for Muirheads of Beckenham and I wired the control box for this Yacht

    • @justADeni
      @justADeni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      nice

    • @timetraveler_0
      @timetraveler_0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is this Reddit?

    • @TonyyStarrkk1994
      @TonyyStarrkk1994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s amazing, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. You must have seen and done so much. You should make a video about your experiences.

    • @bruceeanandd1933
      @bruceeanandd1933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your sharing knowledge

    • @captnodge
      @captnodge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cor

  • @joshuasim8019
    @joshuasim8019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +816

    Question. Any chance that all these stabilizers are installed together in one ship and work coherently? That would be glorious!

    • @joeyknight8272
      @joeyknight8272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      to expensive and too much space

    • @snazzysnazzergryphon8550
      @snazzysnazzergryphon8550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@joeyknight8272 but It could probably be done

    • @only1anime89
      @only1anime89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I wanna see a floating city. That would be awesome!

    • @daftbence
      @daftbence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

      I present you the Queen Mary 2! It has fins, tanks, active fins, everything you need. Works quite well, although there are still waves that can rock the old lady :)

    • @mirum8726
      @mirum8726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      userful1 😮

  • @apropercuppa8612
    @apropercuppa8612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I once took a trip with my family from England to Ireland and we caught a Ferry from Holyhead across the Irish Sea to Dublin. The sea was that rough that one of the ships stabilisers had completely broken. The Captain struggled to stabilise the vessel and couldn't arrive into the Port. It was at that point that he announced he had to turn back. What should have been a few hours crossing turned into something daft like a 4-6 hour trip.
    Partly because of how rough it actually was, was why it took so long, and obviously the technical difficulties of handling a ship that might not be responding well, lol. Lucky for us, we all took travel sickness tablets first because near enough everyone was sea sick. The toilets and troughs were filled with spew. A great memory for sure.

  • @maelstrumyes3595
    @maelstrumyes3595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Thanks I really needed this info for my 3 month journey from Norway to Iceland
    In 105 A.D

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      @NoobMicesters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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      @Fred_the_1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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      @billmcgee7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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      @dragon.fromindia3235 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @JadeSteele 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I'm gonna be honest, your stuff was randomly in my feed and I just went. 🤷‍♀️ why not and now I'm just watching a lot of your vids

  • @dwafakiin1792
    @dwafakiin1792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I've been looking for a video like this for ages, I play a game called Stormworks, where you build ships and such for search and rescue operations, but some of the ships can get to a decent size, and as in the name of the game, you encounter storms, so it can be rather difficult to keep your ship upright during a heavy storm which is often when you need to use these rescue ships. Thank you for the video, it's been really helpful!

    • @Neon_Orange56
      @Neon_Orange56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i also play that game its pretty fun

    • @Slash0mega
      @Slash0mega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wait, are the game physics good enough that these things help?

    • @dixie_rekd9601
      @dixie_rekd9601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      have you played "from the depths"

    • @dwafakiin1792
      @dwafakiin1792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dixie_rekd9601 I have actually, got around 1000 hours on it 😂 its a fantastic game!

    • @smakkacowtherealone
      @smakkacowtherealone ปีที่แล้ว

      ayy I love that game

  • @hardboiled7467
    @hardboiled7467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    Rejoice! for the mighty youtube algorithm has found yee

  • @jeff4son
    @jeff4son 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I was on the QM2 from NY to Southampton in May 2009. There were 30ft waves in a storm. I was amazed at how stable the ship stayed.

  • @samutraifin
    @samutraifin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +832

    Me: looking ideas for a PC setup/desk
    TH-cam: wanna see some ship Stabilisers?

    • @Helix597
      @Helix597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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    • @alberteng123
      @alberteng123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here

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      @hairyhenry97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TH-cam

    • @devvydoesstuff
      @devvydoesstuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same but i was looking for sinking ships not how to stop a ship from sinking

    • @justanotherasian4395
      @justanotherasian4395 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just get an IKEA linnmon desk.

  • @chrisakaschulbus4903
    @chrisakaschulbus4903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:04 why is there a blurr in the video? What kind of stuff do you draw on your boats? ;)

    • @the-ns6df
      @the-ns6df ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to know im not the only one who noticed that

  • @leosypher9993
    @leosypher9993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My grandfather served on an iron ore ship on the great lakes, they were in one of the storms that lake superior is famous for, they were stuck crossways in the waves for half an hour, my grandpa states "I was standing in my bunck one second, then doing a head stand the other" the rudder on the ship was trying to steer the ship to be going into the waves, it took that half hour for the rudder to finally get the ship steered

  • @raideurng2508
    @raideurng2508 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I'd be shocked if the author here hadn't played Stormworks, a game entirely about building functional ships. I had a mate figure out he could use a weight actively rolled on a track positioned in the bottom of the ship to rapidly shift CG and counter rolling. Definitely a personnel safety hazard, but it did work.

    • @moldman5694
      @moldman5694 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A good example of something that works very well in stormworks but would be a mechanical nightmare irl.

    • @Kenionatus
      @Kenionatus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moldman5694 We've got the technology for rolling things on tracks quite figured out. The main issue I (as a complete layperson) see is that the area in between the extreme positions needs to remain clear, costing a lot of space.

  • @USN1985dos
    @USN1985dos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The frigate I was on had active fin stabilizers. They were always broken though, so we would just roll from side to side. On particularly rough days, you'd start to see boot prints on the bulkheads (walls) of passageways. There were times on the bridge, when you were literally hanging on to something bolted down to keep from sliding across the deck, that I wondered if we would finally capsize.

  • @joops110
    @joops110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    5:10 "You can use it to counter other forces"
    *Like god*

    • @GoldSrc_
      @GoldSrc_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As if god was a force lol.

    • @joops110
      @joops110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @lordgaben4983
      @lordgaben4983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GoldSrc_ Titanic joke mate

    • @GoldSrc_
      @GoldSrc_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @corthew
    @corthew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    When I was in the Navy I use to play around with subtle rudder action to stabilize the ship. The idea is simply to counter the wave action with a slight bow turn in the direction of the list.
    You have to be a bit ahead of it of course so the ship has time to respond but waves are very consistent in their timing so its really all about that...Timing.

    • @clayz1
      @clayz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know just what you are talking about. Getting the timing right can be very difficult. Especially on an old ww2 tanker converted to crab processor. She comes around slow anyhow, but good timing still has an effect.

  • @shanerooney7288
    @shanerooney7288 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I don't remember when I found this channel, or really anything about this channel.
    So this video came as a very pleasant surprise.

    • @NolePTR
      @NolePTR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here man.

  • @skipbellon4342
    @skipbellon4342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    On the Fast Frigate I served on, one could feel the stabilizers "kick in" with a slam at the end of each roll. And one time, (in band camp) Our ship broke down out at sea and we could not use our stabilizers... the whole crew was sea-sick (almost) until another ship towed us toward the Philippines, until we were close enough for a fleet tug to tow us the rest of the way. FYI: If you are ever going to break down and sit in a port for 3 months... do it in the Philippines.

  • @JayRSwan
    @JayRSwan ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Not for cruise ships, but there are another 2 types of active stabilizers that also work while stopped. One uses a heavy spinning weight on the center line inside the boat and a gyro to counter the force. The 2nd one is also spinning, but on the outside, like the active fins. Because they are spinning in the water, you don't need to be moving to build counter force.

  • @tee4222
    @tee4222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Cool video, glad to have come across your channel!
    There are actually what’re called zero-speed fin stabilizers that don’t require you to be moving through the water. They have a much wider range of motion and use the fins kind of like wings. Not sure if they employ them on larger vessels though. They’re pretty common on recreational yachts in the 20 to 60 meter range.
    There is also another method of stabilization not mentioned. But again, i believe they’re only used on smaller vessels. I see them on sport fishing yachts most commonly. They’re called seakeepers and they use gyroscopic stabilization. It would be cool to see a video explaining their function, advantages and limitations.

  • @docbrown7916
    @docbrown7916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have read of tuned mass dampeners in some vessels and on some cruise ships in bad weather, the captain having a certain % of guests go to lower decks to reduce the center of gravity, they provided food and etc to compensate for inconvenience but it did work, it's all physics and the ocean has a lotta dynamic variables.

  • @mateuszkrakowiak389
    @mateuszkrakowiak389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's 3AM, and I'm watching this... I love TH-cam so much, interesting things and knowledge served everyday

  • @KoRbA2310
    @KoRbA2310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    Saturday Night:...
    TH-cam: Do you want to watch video about ship stabilisers?

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      @lukedavies2406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Eric and the answer better be “hell yes TH-cam”

    • @RIURIU4
      @RIURIU4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      saturday night for me too, one week later from your comment. Do they actually schedule this video to be suggested on Saturdays

    • @paul6894
      @paul6894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saturday night for me. I found the video interesting.

    • @Coonass
      @Coonass 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha 2 months ahead, it's my Saturday night, my 4th video from the channel, and I just subbed. Niiiice. 🤟🏼✌🏼🇺🇸🦅

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      @NiaBaNiaMaNia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s honestly me right now.

  • @montsemajanmartinez9824
    @montsemajanmartinez9824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The best way to avoid spilling drinks on a cruise ship is to lay flat on the floor with a 5cm tube in your mouth attached to a large funnel.
    There, a trained professional can pour the drink into your mouth without spilling.
    In case of overage, members of the crew can stow you below decks on a gurney, and roll you back and forth in counteraction to the waves.
    It's great fun, and passengers & crew enjoy it immensely.

  • @yubear420
    @yubear420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My Chief Engineer always told me, "You put the right fin in, you put the right fin out. In, out, in, out shake it all about and then you do the hokey pokey and you turn around. That's what it's all about."

  • @janvandemaas4148
    @janvandemaas4148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My Father was a cook aboard a passenger liner that sailed between Rotterdam and New York in the 1950 ‘s . Passengers had been complaining about the rolling of the ship and the decision was made to have stabilising fins fitted to the ship in Southhampton only to find out that they made the ship slowly dip in the water and had to slow the ship down every so often. The trip took a very long time to New York but the problem was rectified in NY. Must have been a Monday morning job !

  • @factbeaglesarebest
    @factbeaglesarebest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love finding an amazing well produced intriguing video that teaches me something that I never would have searched.
    Never considered this fact! Amazing video

  • @ieuanhunt552
    @ieuanhunt552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Those cheesy sound effects are glorious.

  • @IZokoraI
    @IZokoraI 5 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Ship: 'They see me rolling, the... wait... they try to dampen my roll!'

  • @Can_Head
    @Can_Head 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Going on a cruise later this year and I hate the sea, understanding what I'm going on and how I'm being safe really helps. As apposed to just being told I'm safe with no explanation.

  • @zeevaartschooldocent6367
    @zeevaartschooldocent6367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just discovered your channel while searching for a video explaining how stabilisation fins work.
    I immedialtly subscribed after watching this video as it is simple and clear.
    Two things that are really appreciated by my students.
    So your video's have entered the Nautical college. :-)
    Thank you for making them and keep up the (very) good work.

  • @johnsegura2139
    @johnsegura2139 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Who's here because their cruise ships aren't stable enough?

  • @bazza2974
    @bazza2974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your channel is brilliant. Clearly a lot of effort and time goes into creating quality content. Really appreciated. Keep it up!

  • @elsamatamoros9820
    @elsamatamoros9820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:05
    The ship is growing , it has evolved arms!

  • @dwaynekight7381
    @dwaynekight7381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The cruise ships only use them in heavier seas, they use up a lot of energy.
    Its costs more money in fuel.
    So when it gets so rough, that nobody is leaving their cabins to spend money......then they turn on the stabilizers.

    • @PatIreland
      @PatIreland 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this true? I wish the creator of this video would comment on this comment.

    • @CasualNavigation
      @CasualNavigation  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We used to use them almost all the time. Mainly because if someone injured themselves and the stabilisers weren't out, questions would get asked

  • @lifeinvader2039
    @lifeinvader2039 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On some superyachts, they use “zero speed” stabiliser which keeps the vessel stable on anchor.
    Great video.

  • @naveenraj2008eee
    @naveenraj2008eee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Amazing video... Your channel is different and interesting...
    TH-cam algorithm will soon endorse you..
    Thanks for great video...🙏👍

    • @samson_the_great
      @samson_the_great 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NAVEEN RAJ there are alot of channels who do the same thing as him

    • @naveenraj2008eee
      @naveenraj2008eee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samson_the_great
      But i dont know about it...

    • @pmmeurcatpics
      @pmmeurcatpics 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or demonetize it, because TH-cam is shit

    • @Infection3d
      @Infection3d 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Already did this week.

  • @ef8701
    @ef8701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos are really helpful and I have vigorously learnt a lot from you. Thank You !!!!

  • @chrisholmgren1595
    @chrisholmgren1595 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hoppe has a good demonstration on Flume tank stabilization. These were used effectively on LASH barge carriers in the 70’s. Good work.

  • @saurabhjambotkar9077
    @saurabhjambotkar9077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Centre of buoyancy is always above the centre of gravity.....
    It must have gotten away from your observations... But still couldn't help to notice......
    Awesome video.!

    • @mygnac
      @mygnac 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you’re confusing the metacentric point with the centre of buoyancy. The metacentric point must always be above the centre of gravity, yes, but the centre of buoyancy doesn’t. Depends entirely on hull shape

    • @saurabhjambotkar9077
      @saurabhjambotkar9077 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mygnac Pieter Elen Yes. Metacenter will always be vertically above center of buoyancy.
      But at 0:22, CG is above Buoyancy point. That should ensure the rollover of ship.

    • @tutracrafty
      @tutracrafty หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@saurabhjambotkar9077the ship stays upright due to form stability. The center of gravity is often many meters above the centre of buoyancy.

  • @donerkebab97
    @donerkebab97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This is the third video I watched. Consider me won over and subscribed

  • @WranglerSlim
    @WranglerSlim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sport fishing boats and luxury yachts sometimes use a gyroscopic stabilization system that is simply a heavy flywheel mounted on a pivot, the axis of which run from the port to starboard sides.
    When the boat starts to rock to one side, the spinning flywheel opposes the change in direction, while itself tilting fore or aft. Gyroscopic stabilization works really well.

  • @zarakikenpachi9210
    @zarakikenpachi9210 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how youtube answers the questions i never asked.tq..i appreciated it

  • @LanzoYT
    @LanzoYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wait what? Ships have FINS ?
    **THE MORE YOU KNOW**
    Thanks for the infos youre giving, underrated!

    • @SportSoulLife
      @SportSoulLife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. One problem with these he didnt mention: they are difficult to maintain and repair since they are underwater. Another problem is that sometimes they are forgotten outside and they might catch a chain of a buoy or smash against the dock. They are only about 5 meters long, but thats enough to snag a buoy chain. It has happened before in tight channels.

    • @SportSoulLife
      @SportSoulLife 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simon WoodburyForget Yes, but you gain a little bit of energy from the ship staying its course better so the rudder doesnt have to work as much. But overall you indeed lose energy on those.

    • @SportSoulLife
      @SportSoulLife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Simon WoodburyForget
      Im an officer, have worked 1.5 years on a ropax with exactly these kinds of fins.
      Its called hydrodynamics, not aerodynamics. So much for understanding something.
      The waves do change the course of the ship. Even when you allow for much yawing on the autopilot. This is due to the changes on water resistance on each side of the ship due to the roll and the waves. This is the same as if you try to sail straight with a list, you will notice the ship wants to turn in the same direction of the list. This is partly why ropax ferries tend to run the heeling tanks a couple of minutes prior to a sharp turn in shallow waters, towards the direction of the turn, so there is less forces working against the course change.
      Having used these fins for 1.5 years pretty much every other day, i can inform you that the efficiency isnt greatly affected. What is expensive about them is the service.
      They dont push the ship deeper into the water, as one fin pushes one side down, the other lifts the other side up simoultaneously. They try to find a balance where they dont use up more energy by lifting or pushing down the entire ship. They monitor the lift and push on each side and balance it out so the forces equal to 0.
      The fins allow for less rudder movements, that is clealy seen on the indicator, so the increased drag from them creating a forced is partly reduced in the much larger surface area of the main rudders moving less.
      The way the ship is loaded affects the efficiency far more, so much that the difference in fuel consuption is 30% less if you get the weight of cargo just right. A full on aft trim will reduce the efficiency to an extreme amount, much more than any fin could potentionally do.
      Take a look at the rudder indicator in strong winds versus large waves, youll see a clear difference.
      In my sailboat racing days we regularly trained by taking off the rudder completely and only manouvering the boat with our sails to learn to reduce drag by using the rudder, the only time the rudder is used with any kind of force there is in emergency situations or really tight manouvers, so much so that when you do your penalties (turn 360 or 720 degrees in one go) you just give a push of momentum into the hull with the rudder and then completely let it go, doing the rest of the turning with your sails and shifting the centre of gravity with your body weight so you dont lose speed.

    • @SportSoulLife
      @SportSoulLife 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simon WoodburyForget windsurfing also doesnt require a rudder, turns pretty damn sharply still. Same goes for sailboats. You can go any direction without a rudder just by manupulating the weight. If you turn the rudder you create more drag, thats why world champion class sailors train without a rudder every now and then. They barely use it when racing.
      1% is meaningless compared to everything else that affects the efficiency. If you change the speed from 22 knots to 26 knots on the Ro-Pax i worked on, the fuel consumption goes up about 40%. From 190 kg/nm to 260 kg/nm.
      The waves by themselves affect it much more than 1%.
      The difference of using 3 engines instead of 4 engines or vice versa make up for way more than that 1%.
      Yes, it creates some drag, but its quite irrelevant compared to the other factors.
      If shipping companies want to sail more economically, they increase the margins of time the ship has to arrive to the next port. This way they can sail at the most economical speed and time currents well. A set of fins in relation to fuel economy is a drop in the ocean to the companies wallet.

    • @SportSoulLife
      @SportSoulLife 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simon WoodburyForget So, the fins cost about $296 000, an increase of 3 knots speed costs $7 000 000 annually, if my maths are compltely correct after a 12 hour shift

  • @ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid
    @ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a great explanation! I love it when people do a good job at stuff!
    I don't care about this subject matter, and yet I found the video enjoyable on all fronts. :)

  • @munfTastic69
    @munfTastic69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how fitting that i discovered your channel after becoming super interested in sailing ships because of my time on a cruise ship (: love the videos!

  • @PatIreland
    @PatIreland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well written. Nice commentaries. Appropriate drawings. Excellent narration.

  • @joseph6270
    @joseph6270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    ayyyy it's a nautical channel that actually knows what they're talking about, subbed :)

  • @andre-jm8jn
    @andre-jm8jn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    there are a couple of errors in the video: 1. you did not mention gyroscopic stabilizers 2. the way active fins works is not how you draw them in the video. they change angle of attack by turning front/rear, not up /down as you showed. There are indeed some fins that move up/ down and these are called zero speed because they can function while the ship is at rest. Otherwise great video!

    • @dhkatz_
      @dhkatz_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He mentioned gyroscopes being used in tandem with other stabilizer methods.

    • @AdelaeR
      @AdelaeR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dhkatz_ In the video he meant gyros for measurement but andre means gyros that stabilize.

    • @SimonEBurgess
      @SimonEBurgess 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was having a real cognitive dissonance when he started talking about forward speed being necessary together with the wing profile and that shown angle change. I guessed that it must be an forward/backward AoA change for that to make sense. Thanks for clarifying that.

  • @bengoodwin465
    @bengoodwin465 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That ship model you were using looks eerily similar to the Queen Mary 2. I just recently went on a Transatlantic Crossing on board her and I have to say, despite some rough seas, it was the smoothest cruise I’ve ever been on.

  • @charliefual
    @charliefual 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love that the little ship drawing is the Queen Mary 2.

  • @MrBozo08
    @MrBozo08 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wait what? I am so suprised by your subscriber count, you deserve much much more. Youre channel is going to blow up in subs very very soon

  • @mariebcfhs9491
    @mariebcfhs9491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    you forgot the HUGE and THICC gyroscope stabilator used in steam ships

    • @tee4222
      @tee4222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Marie BCFHS and lots of smaller sport fishing vessels. There’s also zero speed fin stabilizers that actually do flap like wings

  • @737Garrus
    @737Garrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the funny sound effect used when the unstabilized ship capsized. Makes it obvious and humorous audibly. :P

  • @MrEliott0
    @MrEliott0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting indeed. Note of curiosity, the (drawing) of the cruise ship called the Andrea Doria, was the Italian flagship sunk many years ago.

  • @07tq91
    @07tq91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Since u mentioned about Gyroscope,
    Can u please make a video regarding that!

  • @IntrepidMilo
    @IntrepidMilo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Conte di Savoia was the first major liner fitted with gyroscopic stabilizers. The ship was built in 1931 and scrapped in 1950.

    • @vladconstantinminea
      @vladconstantinminea 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but they were huge and acted more like flywheels, keeping the ship stable with sheer force, not by controlling other stabilizing systems.

  • @twilightstruggle8390
    @twilightstruggle8390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am going to study Naval engineering in the university. really enjoy the facts of ships

  • @tedbaxter5234
    @tedbaxter5234 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! I just took my first cruise and I wondered about these systems!

  • @socialminds9894
    @socialminds9894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What an interesting channel. I hope to watch much more of this content.

  • @aqimjulayhi8798
    @aqimjulayhi8798 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I see you're the sea and water transport version of Wendover Productions. Subbed and looking forward to learn more.

  • @zachbunch8701
    @zachbunch8701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have the same effect on trains in certain rail conditions we call "Harmonic Sway". We battle it simply by changing our speed constantly while on the section of rail so that the sway of the train and dips and raises in the rail dont occur at the same time for too long.

  • @bullracing1
    @bullracing1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really Helping me out on deciding which Stabilization System should I use on Stormworks

  • @whitehornet90
    @whitehornet90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gained new knowledge today. Thank you ❤

  • @1234567895182
    @1234567895182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your channel is great! Sorry it took so long to find you! Subbed!!

  • @themostwanted_xe284
    @themostwanted_xe284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wondered how did ships remained stable in waves. Thank you for explaining this to me.

  • @OCEANCRAFTSMotionGallery
    @OCEANCRAFTSMotionGallery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this great informative footage👍 I love large industrial vessels including container ships and I shoot videos of them in action. Your awesome video helped me understanding more about container ships😃

  • @andreasholmm
    @andreasholmm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cool bro i been on the cruise ship, and didn't even know this

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When we took cruises decades ago (we wouldn't do it now with the way cruises have changed for the worse), the ships were said to be equipped with external stabilizers of some sort, but were seldom if ever used since operating them used up more fuel than without. Heaven forbid they should fork over a little more fuel money per trip.

  • @peroleable
    @peroleable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its good to see that there exists people that understands ship stability, the difference between center of gravity and the center of buoyancy.
    On modern ships the center of gravity is "always" over the water surface (buoyancy) and makes them tilt around at a defined angle of tilt.

  • @cellokid5104
    @cellokid5104 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video. Im very intrigued by the information and your presentation

  • @marcosmota1094
    @marcosmota1094 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Greater work. You have an awesome announcer's voice.

  • @rich1701
    @rich1701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know the petronas towers have a mass damper installed which is quite high to counter the strong winds which make the tower sway. It’s basically a counter weight suspended with a spring. A similar device was used in the nose cone of a Renault formula 1 car to maximise tyre contact with the track surface when the car bounced over kerbs. I wonder if it could be applied to ships in a stabiliser function as well?

  • @pawprints1986
    @pawprints1986 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i had been told about stabilizer fins but couldnt quite picture how they work. this was perfect! I guess it can get pretty ugly, even if just for a moment, if the fins stop working... thankfully this wasnt the ship i was on!

  • @frogandspanner
    @frogandspanner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was a lad in the '50s and travelled on Ellermans's WIlson Line between Hull and Rotterdam the dining room chairs were chained down, and the fixed tables had a raised edge to stop glasses falling off.

  • @Cucumberick
    @Cucumberick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Another youtube channel star is born!

  • @TonyC2328
    @TonyC2328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wish we had stabilizers on my Frigate when I was in the Navy. You would nearly fall over sometimes just trying to walk lol

  • @SeidelinShift
    @SeidelinShift 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am seeing this to calm my anxiety attact , thank you for your calming voice

  • @arslanmunir8334
    @arslanmunir8334 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video has cleared all the illusions came through my mind so far.... informative it is

  • @JohnsonAugustine
    @JohnsonAugustine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, well explained!

  • @MrAlex-lk8zn
    @MrAlex-lk8zn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey 👋🏼
    Can you make a video about how cruise ship (especially the R.M.S Queen Mary 2) stay upright in situation like loss of engine power in a storm or when they list. Basically stabilization at rest. Thanks a lot!
    Alex

  • @mariebcfhs9491
    @mariebcfhs9491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've heard about ships with gyroscopic stabilizer that spins huge chunks of metal to counter the ship's rolling, man that was amazing

  • @WelcomeToJ
    @WelcomeToJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was one of the most interesting and informative videos I've ever seen on TH-cam.

    • @drave4gaming191
      @drave4gaming191 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then you are not looking for it. I don't want to say, this video is bad, I really like it and the channel as well, but if you're looking for more, check out wendover production, half as interesting, real life lore and real engineering, they have very good videos as well.

  • @shreyasnaidu9333
    @shreyasnaidu9333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome 25k sub more in just a day that's good news .....all the best sir .....

  • @holypeachy
    @holypeachy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "She" omg finally someone that knows how to talk ships (ships, not boats. Im to excited about this)

  • @MichaelMarko
    @MichaelMarko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice! Thanks for the deep dive, so to speak!!!

  • @pedrobrito8080
    @pedrobrito8080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic... Never tought of this problem and its solutions.

  • @SomewhereAbove
    @SomewhereAbove 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your voice is so soothing omg😍

  • @Laura-Yu
    @Laura-Yu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m glad that the TH-cam algorithm occasionally does work by suggesting me this video

  • @jmc1771
    @jmc1771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ship I was on in the US Navy had fin stabilizers. They were always broke down. But when they worked they gave the ship a very unnatural rocking motion and we were more likely to get seasick.

  • @MrFluffytheTurtle
    @MrFluffytheTurtle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're like the Chain Bear Formula 1 channel of the Nautical Marine Variety. I love these.