So I saw this and used mixed it with my own in melee form and found it easier to stack bodies on bodies and make everything im standing in go bye bye. Tons of fun, necro is definitely getting there quickly
25:00 Pretty sure the Resto Staff mag return works on any target on all casts, not just the first. The simultaneous qualifier is referring to 2 instances of a crit heal happening at the same time. It's better to think of it as "this effect can only happen once every 1 second." Although, I'd need to test it, the reason they used that wording may be because it can happen quicker than 1 second, but it can't happen within a small window of time or they're considered simultaneous...eg. a 0.2s window. Either way. It works on multiple casts for sure.
Good to know! I was under the impression that if I cast it and with in the same window as casting it on someone else… if I critically heal I only get the mag return then… but even cooler if you’re in fact right!
When I first tried the Corpseburster i totally felt in love with it. But farming it in weights I needed was (actually, still IS) a PAIN bc of the time consumed by the activity. I tried it on melee PvP char with minor maim scribing 2h spam together with Tarnished, and it felt so good, esp when you catching them off-guard with multiple corpses lying around. I go to IA with the exact same setup and farm 1st two arcs with no brain involved lol. I use det siphon tho, bc on an Imperial you wouldn't need extra sustain from mag siphon, and this +6-8k of det siphon explosion contributes in the overall output significantly. The other PvE variant is to pair it with macabre vintage. Def not that strong, rather weak in terms of raw dps... but man it is SO FUN to play anywhere I go!
Couple things I noticed, when you said the rapid regen you said it's 50 percent more heals to targets under 100%, but it's only "UP TO" 50 percent. So for every 2 percent missing hp, it heals 1 percent more. Ex. target it's at 80 percent hp, you do 10 percent more healing. Secondly vateshran does fire frost OR shock, not fire frost and shock. Thirdly, im fairly certain immobilize immunity and stun immunity have the same cooldowns. Lastly, maelstrom staff gives regen multiple times per cast, but just not at the same tick. So 5 seconds with each tick being critical will proc 5 times. But if you hit 2 people and it crits 5 times each simultaneously, you don't get 10, you still only get 5.
I’m not perfect lol someone already confirmed the resto staff part. You are right. As far as cooldowns they are different. Immobilize is 4 sec and stun is 7.
@@avidnecro for sure. I just like everybody knowing exactly how it works. It helps when considering the builds. I didn't know the immobilize timer was shorter than the stun timer. That's gonna effect how I think about my rotations now too. Also, I didn't know the 3 patches spawn in the same area if pinned against a wall. I probably should have led that it's still a great looking in build that I'm def gonna be fucking with. Just finished farming the pieces I needed last night, so now I just need transmutes.
I made a corpse buster bomb with dc and it absolutely hits I use scribing class mastery with bone yard on top of the smash and proxy still working it out but is nice so far
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I honestly like the Reaper build more. Flexibility with your front bar abilities, ability to use a monster and mythic. Malacath Band is too good on Necro. Also, let’s be real, I’m not trying to farm IA anymore when they can just nerf one of the sets next patch like they did Pyrebrand.
I completely understand. I like to keep the diversity alive though. Plus really wanted to make Corpseburster to work. I don’t think it’ll get the pyreband treatment only because I has a lot tougher conditions to be met. I think it’s balanced the way it is.
The only thing that isn't clear for me, is if the Dagon's last line buffs AoE procs that scale "off your max wpd/spd"? Because I've always been thinking that only those sets that "increase your [overall] wpd/spd" would buff proc sets.
Hey, I'm actually thinking about making a magcro (it would be my 4th necro :D). Unfortunately, I don't have access to Dagon's. Do you think nobility in decay would be usable instead ? I heard corpseburster wasn't usable with it but I'm not sure if it got patched
Unfortunately no. Not to say you couldn’t use it but the corpse that sticks to use will not proc Corpseburster. I think it involves a proc procing a proc. But, idk. Seems like it would be a perfect match up.
@@avidnecro Too bad, it was a golden opportunity for zos. I've been thinking about mad tinkerer to get a reliable stun but it looks even less reliable than ghostly embrace..
Ele-sus as a spammable absolutely doesn't sound silly, I used to weave it if I ran out of magicka but wanted to keep the pressure on in my draugrkin build and it would fucking fry people. I almost considered using it as a spammable myself. PS. you should definitely go get the Worm Wizard personality my dude.
The only scribing skill we have slotted is healing contingency. You could absolutely slot a snare removal or even an another corpse consuming skill like deadened pain instead of healing contingency.
@@avidnecro Is still meta, its the strongest hot in the game ... Good players keep vigor up, without it you are squishy af. You are fighting bots lol i know you get spanked when better players are present
Better players get spanked by me just as well. And no, rapid regen with its resto staff passives will actually out heal vigor but… math is math. 💪 thanks for your two cents though 😂😂😂.
@@avidnecroany suggestions on sets?? I’d like to be on the tanky side. I haven’t played necro in years so I kinda want something with decent damage but also tanky
I don’t particularly like the reduced healing. Not to say it wouldn’t work but Corpseburster is the focus here and dagons happens to buff everything else too.
As a rule of thumb; Lots of instances of damage (Relequen, DoT build, Crushing Shock as spammable etc) = Draugrkin good Burst damage Builds (where ur looking to hit a fat bbones>ult>stun>proc or variation of that to secure kills) = Draugrkin bad.
@vladimirwoodchester2616 I do wish that there was a different version of animate blast bones, or syphon where it’ll trigger corpses in a chain reaction if they are close enough to each other instead of having to keep pressing the skill.
Sadly, this build lacks survivability. Sorcs can still press you into obliteration and its hard to land a corpse blast on them with all the pressure on you and their telerporing around. Necro still needs a lot of tweaking from ZOS
How does it lack survivability? Do you understand how tethers work and the healing power behind restoration staff? Or how the crowd control ability works?
@@avidnecro I do. I have a necro atm with 34k res and intensive mender/vigor that heals more than rapid regen and it still dies rather quickly to strong pressure. I tried a similar build to yours (still don't have corpse buster) but it can't take a hit. Ofc it might be a matter of skills but on PC NA you have to either have 8k WD/SD or over 33k res. I love your content and am trying to find a fun necro build to play, hence I subbed, so plz don't take it as criticism.
@Gardarik33115 no I love criticism. That’s why I was dissecting your comment. Unfortunately I don’t have an answer for you. It performs really well on Xbox N.A. at least. I can’t vogue for PC. but I assure you it holds its own no problem. I’ve taken a few spec bow soul tether combos and lived. It’s just player base I guess.
I mean…. The whole build is built around Corpseburster 😂. And everyone has access to archive! Did you know it’s part of the base game!? You don’t need the DLC to enter it!
Bro first off thank you for your service to the community.... but holy fucking shit you got 29 minutes in the build part of the video that's crazy lmao I do love that your so informative but man I just wanted to see what gear set you were pairing with corpse I'm sure a lot of viewers really need all that info but maybe just link a screenshot of cmc for the vets that just want the sauce. Again tyvm for your content I mean no offense
@quthai what was your question?
So I saw this and used mixed it with my own in melee form and found it easier to stack bodies on bodies and make everything im standing in go bye bye. Tons of fun, necro is definitely getting there quickly
Share your build?
As soon as I heard "bring something to the table that's off-meta", I had to sub. It's nice to see someone think outside the box. Thanks Avid Necro 🙂
Appreciate that 👌
25:00 Pretty sure the Resto Staff mag return works on any target on all casts, not just the first. The simultaneous qualifier is referring to 2 instances of a crit heal happening at the same time. It's better to think of it as "this effect can only happen once every 1 second." Although, I'd need to test it, the reason they used that wording may be because it can happen quicker than 1 second, but it can't happen within a small window of time or they're considered simultaneous...eg. a 0.2s window. Either way. It works on multiple casts for sure.
Good to know! I was under the impression that if I cast it and with in the same window as casting it on someone else… if I critically heal I only get the mag return then… but even cooler if you’re in fact right!
When I first tried the Corpseburster i totally felt in love with it. But farming it in weights I needed was (actually, still IS) a PAIN bc of the time consumed by the activity. I tried it on melee PvP char with minor maim scribing 2h spam together with Tarnished, and it felt so good, esp when you catching them off-guard with multiple corpses lying around. I go to IA with the exact same setup and farm 1st two arcs with no brain involved lol. I use det siphon tho, bc on an Imperial you wouldn't need extra sustain from mag siphon, and this +6-8k of det siphon explosion contributes in the overall output significantly. The other PvE variant is to pair it with macabre vintage. Def not that strong, rather weak in terms of raw dps... but man it is SO FUN to play anywhere I go!
Makes me happy to hear! I’ve yet to take it into PVE myself
Im glad you made this bro, i was getting frustrated trying to make the set work. Thank you GOATcro❤️
Anytime brother 💪
Thanks for the hard work on the build. I would love timestamps and even a quick superstar at the end just to help when making the build. Cheers!
Timestamps got it. But what’s a superstar?
@@avidnecro Superstar addon, lets you snapshot your whole build, assuming you are on PC :)
Xbox series x 💪
Couple things I noticed, when you said the rapid regen you said it's 50 percent more heals to targets under 100%, but it's only "UP TO" 50 percent. So for every 2 percent missing hp, it heals 1 percent more. Ex. target it's at 80 percent hp, you do 10 percent more healing.
Secondly vateshran does fire frost OR shock, not fire frost and shock.
Thirdly, im fairly certain immobilize immunity and stun immunity have the same cooldowns.
Lastly, maelstrom staff gives regen multiple times per cast, but just not at the same tick. So 5 seconds with each tick being critical will proc 5 times. But if you hit 2 people and it crits 5 times each simultaneously, you don't get 10, you still only get 5.
I’m not perfect lol someone already confirmed the resto staff part. You are right. As far as cooldowns they are different. Immobilize is 4 sec and stun is 7.
@@avidnecro for sure. I just like everybody knowing exactly how it works. It helps when considering the builds. I didn't know the immobilize timer was shorter than the stun timer. That's gonna effect how I think about my rotations now too.
Also, I didn't know the 3 patches spawn in the same area if pinned against a wall.
I probably should have led that it's still a great looking in build that I'm def gonna be fucking with. Just finished farming the pieces I needed last night, so now I just need transmutes.
Glad to hear 💪
Yes this is what i have been waiting for! How would you rank this build vrs your other builds in terms of power?
Definitely the strongest. I know that sounds like a broken record but I keep one upping myself 😂😂😂
@@avidnecro that's great. I saw your stream while you were still testing it. The build has come a long way.
@kbmoore65 about 60 inks and couple hundred k gold in mats and about 50k archival fortunes lol.
@@avidnecroJesus I wish I had 50 fortunes. I'm trying to farm pyrebrand and boy is it going slow. Lol
Keep at it 💪
Can’t wait to try the build. Also is your previous build reaper still valid? Perfected vat stalf has escaped me. And discord link doesn’t work 😢
It is! Just a little revamp each patch but nothing crazy.
Avid ISSSSSS the Corpse Buster!! 💥
Lmao thanks bro.
Keep the Necro alive! 👏
Trying to
Man i just got your last build set up but this seems like it just feels better!
What can I say, I like diversity 😂. Glad to hear that though! I have 6 armory slots and rotates what ever flavor I’m feelin for the day! lol
I made a corpse buster bomb with dc and it absolutely hits I use scribing class mastery with bone yard on top of the smash and proxy still working it out but is nice so far
Nice 💪
Awesome video and great theorycraft❤
The gameplay and music really blends well together.👍
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Let's go, nice build.
Ty!!!
I have a dark elf, khajiit and imperial character. Which one do you suggest? There is a double xp event, I can create high elf too.
Kajit
Definitely need to get this set, can you get it with any class or is it specific to what class you complete it with?
You can farm infinite archive with any class and then just purchase pieces from the vender located in the archive.
@@avidnecro thanks! I haven’t gotten to it yet and wasn’t sure lol
Written guide please? I’d like to look at the traits enchants and weights you got but combing through the (great) video is tedious
I’ve been meaning to do that. Working on it.
Let`s goooooo 😍😍😍
Nice vid! What is the head and chest style? Look great for cro
This is the whispers of sithis costume
the music is a bit to loud compared to your voice, but aside from that the video is great
Noted, next time I’ll turn it down a bit.
@@avidnecro keep up the amazing work we need more necros like u
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I honestly like the Reaper build more. Flexibility with your front bar abilities, ability to use a monster and mythic. Malacath Band is too good on Necro. Also, let’s be real, I’m not trying to farm IA anymore when they can just nerf one of the sets next patch like they did Pyrebrand.
I completely understand. I like to keep the diversity alive though. Plus really wanted to make Corpseburster to work. I don’t think it’ll get the pyreband treatment only because I has a lot tougher conditions to be met. I think it’s balanced the way it is.
The only thing that isn't clear for me, is if the Dagon's last line buffs AoE procs that scale "off your max wpd/spd"? Because I've always been thinking that only those sets that "increase your [overall] wpd/spd" would buff proc sets.
Right. Dagons is adding to your weapon and spell damage even though it’s not displaying in the stat sheet. It’s affecting the damage output still.
Would using a vate fire staff do more dmg considering fire staff increase status effect dmg?
No. All your damage is AOE which is Direct damage.
Hey, I'm actually thinking about making a magcro (it would be my 4th necro :D). Unfortunately, I don't have access to Dagon's. Do you think nobility in decay would be usable instead ? I heard corpseburster wasn't usable with it but I'm not sure if it got patched
Unfortunately no. Not to say you couldn’t use it but the corpse that sticks to use will not proc Corpseburster. I think it involves a proc procing a proc. But, idk. Seems like it would be a perfect match up.
@@avidnecro Too bad, it was a golden opportunity for zos. I've been thinking about mad tinkerer to get a reliable stun but it looks even less reliable than ghostly embrace..
@navaac_9421 don’t sleep on ghostly embrace… it slaps.
rallying cry it is then, Dagon is so cool for necro though
Corpsebuster does proc on the nobility corpse, at least on PC so it might be a patch issue for console
Ele-sus as a spammable absolutely doesn't sound silly, I used to weave it if I ran out of magicka but wanted to keep the pressure on in my draugrkin build and it would fucking fry people. I almost considered using it as a spammable myself.
PS. you should definitely go get the Worm Wizard personality my dude.
Absolutely. By itself it’s nothing to go crazy about but when it pairs with sets like vateshran or draugrkin then G…G… lol.
How is the other class set necromancer?
Do you have a build without scribing?
The only scribing skill we have slotted is healing contingency. You could absolutely slot a snare removal or even an another corpse consuming skill like deadened pain instead of healing contingency.
U want vigor usually tho for the buffs tho nuh? Id the rhe buffs over the extra heals
No point. Summoners armor gives you minor resolve already on top of major resolve.
@@avidnecro Is still meta, its the strongest hot in the game ... Good players keep vigor up, without it you are squishy af. You are fighting bots lol i know you get spanked when better players are present
Better players get spanked by me just as well. And no, rapid regen with its resto staff passives will actually out heal vigor but… math is math. 💪 thanks for your two cents though 😂😂😂.
@@avidnecro you need frost staff to block weave when defensive, you def cant play 😂 you on pc?
@Azzen234 ok bro lol.
What’s a good damage group build for BGs?
Can never go wrong with bombing lol.
@@avidnecroany suggestions on sets?? I’d like to be on the tanky side. I haven’t played necro in years so I kinda want something with decent damage but also tanky
@XxPLoSiVeZ Nobility In Decay is a great tanky back bar choice. And then for damage I would go dagons or Corpseburster.
@@avidnecro thank you!
No problem 💪
Wouldnt draugrkin work better than dagons? As its buffing everything not just aoe?
I don’t particularly like the reduced healing. Not to say it wouldn’t work but Corpseburster is the focus here and dagons happens to buff everything else too.
Not to mention Draugrkin only drops in light armor.
As a rule of thumb;
Lots of instances of damage (Relequen, DoT build, Crushing Shock as spammable etc) = Draugrkin good
Burst damage Builds (where ur looking to hit a fat bbones>ult>stun>proc or variation of that to secure kills) = Draugrkin bad.
That’s a really good way to put it spider 😂😂
What you use to make that scribing skill?
Healing/class signature script/minor endurance and intellect the grimor is Mages contingency from the mages guild.
@avidnecro ok thank you 😊
Can other necromancer corpse consuming skills cause the corse buster to proc?
Any corpse consuming skill.
What outfit is that looks great?
It’s the new costume in the crown store! Whisper something… 😅 I actually forget what it’s called.
Does animate blastbones proc corpseburster?
It does, but only 1 of the corpses because of the 0.5 sec cooldown.
@@avidnecro ah thank thank.. thought things were about to get real crazy lol
@vladimirwoodchester2616 I do wish that there was a different version of animate blast bones, or syphon where it’ll trigger corpses in a chain reaction if they are close enough to each other instead of having to keep pressing the skill.
@@avidnecrothis. Don’t give us a 0.5 sec cooldown and not let us use it.
What’s that blue effect on the arms?
Necromancy greatness. lol. I believe it’s the indication of the reusable parts passive.
That’s corpse buster set it gives that effect on the arms. I’m making a one bar build tonight on it including this set and uploading it tonight.
@DarthXantos thank you for clarifying.
@@DarthXantos thank you so much
What about nord? Good or not?
Slightly weaker but not a game changer.
@@avidnecro What can be used to replace the scribe's abilities?
@Gelebar a snare removal or another corpse consuming ability would be good I think.
Really nice build. Thank you.
Thank you!
In todays community "corpse buster" sounds kind of sus ngl
Lmfao
Is vampirism no longer relevant?
Not really. It’s more of a choice now instead of a must.
How did I never realise vateshran tether deals damage to any enemy in it not just who you set it on with ele sus 😂😂
Easy to miss. It’s a hyper focused single target skill.
@@avidnecro now I’m wondering what else I’ve overlooked 😂
Seems kinda low on survivability
There’s a 2.0 version coming out soon.
Sadly, this build lacks survivability. Sorcs can still press you into obliteration and its hard to land a corpse blast on them with all the pressure on you and their telerporing around. Necro still needs a lot of tweaking from ZOS
How does it lack survivability? Do you understand how tethers work and the healing power behind restoration staff? Or how the crowd control ability works?
@@avidnecro I do. I have a necro atm with 34k res and intensive mender/vigor that heals more than rapid regen and it still dies rather quickly to strong pressure. I tried a similar build to yours (still don't have corpse buster) but it can't take a hit. Ofc it might be a matter of skills but on PC NA you have to either have 8k WD/SD or over 33k res.
I love your content and am trying to find a fun necro build to play, hence I subbed, so plz don't take it as criticism.
@Gardarik33115 no I love criticism. That’s why I was dissecting your comment. Unfortunately I don’t have an answer for you. It performs really well on Xbox N.A. at least. I can’t vogue for PC. but I assure you it holds its own no problem. I’ve taken a few spec bow soul tether combos and lived. It’s just player base I guess.
any alternative for the 5 pc? i don’t have archive
I mean…. The whole build is built around Corpseburster 😂. And everyone has access to archive! Did you know it’s part of the base game!? You don’t need the DLC to enter it!
Bro stop telling people about elemental sus That's supposed to be a secret
Lmfao
You think this could be good with shattered fate instead of dagons? I’m so sick of farming new sets dude ☠️
Nah, you’d be missing out on a significant amount of spell damage.
7918 pen vs 750 Spell damage, even though 492 only affects your damage, that 258 still affects your healing.
@@avidnecro I’ve seen you in BGs on Xbox 💯 this corpse buster set looks fire! Just got killed by someone using it with tarnished nightmare…
@Ibletrog87 sick combo lol
Bro first off thank you for your service to the community.... but holy fucking shit you got 29 minutes in the build part of the video that's crazy lmao I do love that your so informative but man I just wanted to see what gear set you were pairing with corpse I'm sure a lot of viewers really need all that info but maybe just link a screenshot of cmc for the vets that just want the sauce. Again tyvm for your content I mean no offense
Well I figured vets would just skip to the gear 😂. No offense taken.
@@avidnecro I was trying but couldn't find it 😭
21:55
The intro terrible
I’m sorry you feel that way? 😂😂
I’m sorry you feel that way? 😂😂
I’m sorry you feel that way? 😂😂