@@chrissinclair44422023 browns defense was mad overrated not even top 5 in the league last year imo. They were elite at home but allowed close to 30 ppg and 400 ypg in away games. C
The bottom line stats give the Jets a claim to that: 60 passing yards allowed vs. 225. But I'm a Jets fan and I'd be stupid to argue that the Broncos defense is ELITE. I was impressed with how they took away the flat all game long. That's good preparation, because the Jets love those little 5 yard yac-intended passes. For the record, trading JFM was NOT popular with the fans. It was to clear cap space, and salary cap stuff is out of my depth, but losing JJ to injury and Reddick's stunt makes it so much worse. Michael Clemons canNOT carry that weight.
Great breakdown. Rodgers wasn’t the problem yesterday. It was the goal line play call, the penalties (two from Breece) and the receivers (Wilson & Gibson). If Garrett & Rodgers can get on the same page we’ll be okay. Big if right now.
Can’t just be Wilson and Rodgers to get to SB. It was Rodgers and Davante and that tunnel vision gets locked down by good teams. Team needs to step up.
There's a couple of turning points that aren't getting mentioned. The first is a 1st and goal on the 1 where the Jets weren't able to push it into the endzone. Some people are criticizing the coaching staff for not putting in Braelen Allen who's got a bit more of an ability to push the pile than Breece Hall does. I'm not going to say they're wrong. Also, credit to Denver's defense for being EXCELLENT at taking away the flat all game long. Usually a team in the Jets position will attempt a pass one time if they're in four-down territory, but the Jets didn't, and for a very good reason. Those little yac intended plays the Jets love weren't there all game. But first and goal on the 1 should be a touchdown. That's four points right there. The second is the fumble by Rodgers that looked like a down by contact, but replay showed the ball slipping out of Rodgers hands before he was down. Ordinarily Peyton challenges that in a heartbeat, but.... he made a totally boneheaded challenge in the first half, after calling a timeout first, which made it even more of a head-scratcher. I can't even remember what the challenge was because it was so clear (I'm not talking about Garrett Wilson's knee being in bounds/out of bounds -- you're probably not going to win that because unlike a foot, a knee is round at the bottom and there aren't any camera angles to determine what part of his knee was touching the field, but it's worth a flag to check). If Denver is able to challenge the ruling, they get the ball in field goal range with four downs to work with. That's (at least) three points right there. The bottom line is the gap between the Jets and Denver isn't what Las Vegas thought it was, and on a rainy day at the end of a rainy week where everything is waterlogged, you're going to have the ball slipping out of people's hands and people falling down all game long, and kickers are going to miss field goals from ranges they normally make. Broncos allowed 9 points, the Jets allowed 10. The Jets outgained the Broncos but were killed by penalties. But a win is a win, the two teams have identical records now in divisions they share with juggernauts so there are lots of scenarios where they compete for a wild card spot, and Denver's got the tie-breaker. Now on to week 5.
honestly looking back there was many times where players are instantly open underneath and rodgers looks to take off or go for a deeper threat and it doesnt end well. 6:26 conklin is wide open which would've extended the drive and we wouldve put up more points.
I think you are correct: the Jets receivers were not on the same page as Aaron Rodgers. Matt Ryan said in the post game show he would tell the receivers "You need to get on my page."
I think getting hit a lot will make a qb panic , that’s what happen with buccaneers to , when you get hit so much and sacked alot you start not trusting the OL and skip reads, Denver’s knows the game plan is we know we can win our one on ones on the DL and db room, let’s make the qb feel uncomfortable so he messes up, that’s why there were so many false starts because they want to beat there guy to the punch after getting punched in the mouth it isn’t not being undisciplined it’s being jittery to win your rep
Breece having two offsides from the backfield is trying to win his rep? How about Lazards gun hands for 15 yards or how about Irv Charles decking the returner on a fair catch? It’s poor COACHING and nothing else.
@@SimpleEats35 mf breece was getting hit in the backfield every run, LB were legit hip to hip on him each route, so yeah he’s going to lean forward to get his step in quicker, what about rodgers fumble that was called dead, the bs Pi in Riley moss put on the one yard, and Wilson knee out of bounds “but not enough to overturn” because of the play on the field, there was bad refs calls all game, even on the catch with Lazard cooper was dipping and got his collar held to stop him from a sack, it don’t matter, it ain’t poor coaching just mentally mistakes, McDonald’s was offside twice because he couldn’t get pressure or sacks so he’s trying to beat the snap and win
@@rayray8430 who? You mean Irvin Charles? No matter who you’re talking about, it’s on the COACH to make sure he is disciplining players and playing the right guys who aren’t going to continue getting penalized or make Amateur mistakes
1:42 Rodgers has lost a lot of mobility. He couldn't outrun a tackle that was inityially standing still but caught up to Rodgers from behind. It's going to be a long season.
Any other QB makes a good pass - Good Pass. Rodgers makes a good pass - what a master thrower of the ball. The greatest throw of all time by the best to ever do it.
Bro Mahomes literally throws an off balance or sidearm pass that is too low and INCOMPLETE and you have analysts like Chris Collinsworth saying “wow what an awesome throw"
@@greenmanalishi6963 Bro Mahomes throws a bad incompletion that looks cool when he throws it and analysts like Chris Collinsworth go crazy like its one of the greatest throws ever made
6:57 when Rogers got sacked, went down hard and he was grabbing at his knee and then the ball and camera went away from him. I thought the season was over again.
@@alanadamsemsed Clearly is a word people tend to use when they're on shaky ground. Not that one, that was in the second half. The one that had everyone I watched the game with scratching their head was the one challenging Tyler Badie's fumble (how is he, btw?) As for the in bounds call, what part of his knee was touching the turf? Was it the part inside the bounds line, or over the inbounds line? If you can't answer that, you can't overturn the ruling on the field. Knees aren't cleats: they're not flat at the bottom. You can't tell by looking from the top. Elsewhere I said it was worth the flag, but that watching at the time I thought the play was going to stand, because you'd need a replay angle a centimeter high to see whether he was in bounds or not. Had the first ref ruled GW out of bounds, I would expect Salah to challenge it and lose. With that said, your team played well, executed, and had a really well-prepared defense. They deserve the win. But I still stand by my point.
And worse, because the refs upheld it, Denver lost their last challenge and couldn't review the even more obvious fumble/scoop/score. This game was a couple of plays away from being a blowout.
What went wrong with A Rodgers ..... he got old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rodgers..."I don't play no stinking pre-season games."...so, Rodgers is not on the same page with his receivers.
Ah five sacks and horrendous pressure from start to end of game is what went wrong plus Breece Hall that won’t take a hit before going down and scared to pass block
The play at 9:15 I saw as the receiver getting tripped. It's a DPI that never gets called because officials never call DPI on the same player on consecutive 4-down series, so good play by the defender. I think we can assume that the the route doesn't end with "and then fall down". There are three possible opinions 1) there's no interference, Williams just slipped 2) there was interference, and that's bs, or 3)there was interference, but good CB's know that right after they've been called for interference they've got a tiny window where they won't get called, so good play. What you can't do is pretend the ball placement's the issue when the receivers chest is face-down after he tries to cut. Watch it in slow-mo if you need to. The ball is placed for a cut back. Williams is making the exact move that you JUST got on Wilson and Gibson for not making.
The Jets should let the coaching staff stay for the rest of the year but after this season they need to be gone. The GM Joe Douglas assembled a very talented team but the coaching staff just isn't it. Time and time again the jets make stupid decisions that lose them games. The Jets have Jordan Travis out of FSU who could learn much under Aaron. I think the jets have a strong core and could be very competitive with better coaching
Rogers has the fastest release in the NFL -- at least through week 3. I haven't checked the updated stats for week 4, but you don't know what you're talking about.
Ball on the 1 and you NEVER give your 240lb RB the ball once. Why does Breece deserve so much loyalty when he's not a great between the tackles runner? Could have put the game away there. Denver's offense was atrocious. They only scored because Sutton was open on an assignment mess up.
What I saw a team that can't play in bad weather games, who's overly dependent on Rogers. They can't run block and didn't have an answer to pressure defense. They offense was out of sync the entire game. The lost to inferior team with better defense and coaching.
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Alot of the time when wilson is open he either doesn't run the route right or rodgers is past him in the read/cant get him the ball bc hes got a guy in his lap.
We know what Wilson can do with the ball in his hand. You gotta get your player makers the ball. First three plays shown Rodgers had him, just pass it he’ll make the play. Rodgers needs to stop playing scared about throwing ints
I'll tell you the problem. Its easy. THE BRONCOS HAVE THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE NFL. but people are in denial ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
So you're saying they are the 2023 Browns...
@@chrissinclair4442no I think he’s say no they’re the 2024 Broncos
Hope this helps 👍
@@chrissinclair44422023 browns defense was mad overrated not even top 5 in the league last year imo. They were elite at home but allowed close to 30 ppg and 400 ypg in away games. C
The bottom line stats give the Jets a claim to that: 60 passing yards allowed vs. 225. But I'm a Jets fan and I'd be stupid to argue that the Broncos defense is ELITE. I was impressed with how they took away the flat all game long. That's good preparation, because the Jets love those little 5 yard yac-intended passes.
For the record, trading JFM was NOT popular with the fans. It was to clear cap space, and salary cap stuff is out of my depth, but losing JJ to injury and Reddick's stunt makes it so much worse. Michael Clemons canNOT carry that weight.
Great breakdown. Rodgers wasn’t the problem yesterday. It was the goal line play call, the penalties (two from Breece) and the receivers (Wilson & Gibson). If Garrett & Rodgers can get on the same page we’ll be okay. Big if right now.
The haters will blame Rodgers for everything. Even the missed Feild goal…
Can’t just be Wilson and Rodgers to get to SB.
It was Rodgers and Davante and that tunnel vision gets locked down by good teams. Team needs to step up.
Lets not mention the Broncos D is turning out to be elite.
@@BarcelonaBlitzerWilson was locked
Rodgers was the problem. How could a 4 time MVP not beat a rookie in a game that 10 points won?! 😂😂😂
8:26 - the answer is Nathanial Hackett.
Rodgers approve play calls. He will change to what he wants.
@@slipjones2 He can't change the personnel to, say... sub in the back whose capable of pushing the pile.
@@slipjones2 puts more strain on the QB to do everything.
Rodger’s frustrated - that he keeps getting run down by a huge defensive tackle.
Exactly. He's always required his mobility and his age and injury have depleted that significantly.
There's a couple of turning points that aren't getting mentioned. The first is a 1st and goal on the 1 where the Jets weren't able to push it into the endzone. Some people are criticizing the coaching staff for not putting in Braelen Allen who's got a bit more of an ability to push the pile than Breece Hall does. I'm not going to say they're wrong. Also, credit to Denver's defense for being EXCELLENT at taking away the flat all game long. Usually a team in the Jets position will attempt a pass one time if they're in four-down territory, but the Jets didn't, and for a very good reason. Those little yac intended plays the Jets love weren't there all game.
But first and goal on the 1 should be a touchdown. That's four points right there.
The second is the fumble by Rodgers that looked like a down by contact, but replay showed the ball slipping out of Rodgers hands before he was down. Ordinarily Peyton challenges that in a heartbeat, but.... he made a totally boneheaded challenge in the first half, after calling a timeout first, which made it even more of a head-scratcher. I can't even remember what the challenge was because it was so clear (I'm not talking about Garrett Wilson's knee being in bounds/out of bounds -- you're probably not going to win that because unlike a foot, a knee is round at the bottom and there aren't any camera angles to determine what part of his knee was touching the field, but it's worth a flag to check). If Denver is able to challenge the ruling, they get the ball in field goal range with four downs to work with.
That's (at least) three points right there.
The bottom line is the gap between the Jets and Denver isn't what Las Vegas thought it was, and on a rainy day at the end of a rainy week where everything is waterlogged, you're going to have the ball slipping out of people's hands and people falling down all game long, and kickers are going to miss field goals from ranges they normally make. Broncos allowed 9 points, the Jets allowed 10. The Jets outgained the Broncos but were killed by penalties. But a win is a win, the two teams have identical records now in divisions they share with juggernauts so there are lots of scenarios where they compete for a wild card spot, and Denver's got the tie-breaker. Now on to week 5.
I like how you didnt really give any credit to the broncos just a lot of what ifs.
Coming from an arod fan, the broncos had that wr core in a snuggie.
As a broncos fan that shits so annoying dude same thing happened with the Bucs game
The first play he talks about how good the broncos are at not letting receivers get separation
Literally said you gotta give Denver Broncos credit, in the beginning of the video that is one of the first things he said
The haters will blame Rodgers for everything. Even the missed Feild goal…
It's not like that was a chip shot. Rodgers couldn't get them closer with 2 attempts? He's a statue back there. Can't run from a 300 lb lineman.
@@MikeSchmidt969 haters will say Rodgers should jump over a defensive end that ran freely past the OLinemen
honestly looking back there was many times where players are instantly open underneath and rodgers looks to take off or go for a deeper threat and it doesnt end well. 6:26 conklin is wide open which would've extended the drive and we wouldve put up more points.
He had pressure in his face. A quarterback with 3 guys flying at him isn’t going to hit that unless he rolls out to his left.
Him: Oh by the way! I have a movie channel….
Me: Skips forward 30 seconds
I think you are correct: the Jets receivers were not on the same page as Aaron Rodgers. Matt Ryan said in the post game show he would tell the receivers "You need to get on my page."
I think getting hit a lot will make a qb panic , that’s what happen with buccaneers to , when you get hit so much and sacked alot you start not trusting the OL and skip reads, Denver’s knows the game plan is we know we can win our one on ones on the DL and db room, let’s make the qb feel uncomfortable so he messes up, that’s why there were so many false starts because they want to beat there guy to the punch after getting punched in the mouth it isn’t not being undisciplined it’s being jittery to win your rep
Breece having two offsides from the backfield is trying to win his rep? How about Lazards gun hands for 15 yards or how about Irv Charles decking the returner on a fair catch? It’s poor COACHING and nothing else.
@@SimpleEats35 mf breece was getting hit in the backfield every run, LB were legit hip to hip on him each route, so yeah he’s going to lean forward to get his step in quicker, what about rodgers fumble that was called dead, the bs Pi in Riley moss put on the one yard, and Wilson knee out of bounds “but not enough to overturn” because of the play on the field, there was bad refs calls all game, even on the catch with Lazard cooper was dipping and got his collar held to stop him from a sack, it don’t matter, it ain’t poor coaching just mentally mistakes, McDonald’s was offside twice because he couldn’t get pressure or sacks so he’s trying to beat the snap and win
@@rayray8430 anything to avoid giving blame to Saleh, this bum of a head coach with a .30 winning percentage!!
@@SimpleEats35 Irvin Charles been getting a flag each game that’s on him he needs to be replaced because he makes mistakes all the time
@@rayray8430 who? You mean Irvin Charles? No matter who you’re talking about, it’s on the COACH to make sure he is disciplining players and playing the right guys who aren’t going to continue getting penalized or make Amateur mistakes
Im glad to hear you call out for a screen! I don’t recall seeing a screen play once during the game. Plus where were the man beating routes???
1:42 Rodgers has lost a lot of mobility. He couldn't outrun a tackle that was inityially standing still but caught up to Rodgers from behind. It's going to be a long season.
Any other QB makes a good pass - Good Pass.
Rodgers makes a good pass - what a master thrower of the ball. The greatest throw of all time by the best to ever do it.
That is exactly how the commentary is lol😂
Thats for any of the big QB names. They all get the same praise.
Bro Mahomes literally throws an off balance or sidearm pass that is too low and INCOMPLETE and you have analysts like Chris Collinsworth saying “wow what an awesome throw"
Mahomes literally throws a basics check down and the world is about to have a baby . Matthew Stanford been doing it for decades
@@greenmanalishi6963 Bro Mahomes throws a bad incompletion that looks cool when he throws it and analysts like Chris Collinsworth go crazy like its one of the greatest throws ever made
Greg The Leg needs to make that FG to win
Defense held the Broncos to 10 points. 12 points from The Leg gets us the win, but the offense has got to capitalize and be more disciplined.
It really doesn't matter. Jets might make the playoffs but they aren't going anywhere.
Bro he looks good I think they'll win the East and this is coming from a pats fan
Bills man. Josh needs to play like trash
@@_HoneyBadger eh that can be cleaned up
6:57 when Rogers got sacked, went down hard and he was grabbing at his knee and then the ball and camera went away from him. I thought the season was over again.
Rodgers wasn't good, but he's an average QB at this point. That's it. He had Wilson open on a couple of these plays, I think there's an issue there.
The issue is old age....on many plays he doesn't move fast enough to avoid the rush...as in the past.
Also Rodgers fumbled on the sack. Jets got help on two missed calls.
Why didn't the Broncos challenge it? Fumbles are challengeable calls.
@@jessejordache1869 they were out of challenges
@@alanadamsemsed Why's that? Any incredibly stupid challenges made, for example in the first half?
@@jessejordache1869 clearly you’re smarter than an nfl head coach. The knee was clearly out of bounds
@@alanadamsemsed Clearly is a word people tend to use when they're on shaky ground.
Not that one, that was in the second half. The one that had everyone I watched the game with scratching their head was the one challenging Tyler Badie's fumble (how is he, btw?)
As for the in bounds call, what part of his knee was touching the turf? Was it the part inside the bounds line, or over the inbounds line? If you can't answer that, you can't overturn the ruling on the field. Knees aren't cleats: they're not flat at the bottom. You can't tell by looking from the top.
Elsewhere I said it was worth the flag, but that watching at the time I thought the play was going to stand, because you'd need a replay angle a centimeter high to see whether he was in bounds or not. Had the first ref ruled GW out of bounds, I would expect Salah to challenge it and lose.
With that said, your team played well, executed, and had a really well-prepared defense. They deserve the win. But I still stand by my point.
That Wilson reception wasn’t great. He was out of bounds with the knee and can’t believe it wasn’t reversed on the review.
And worse, because the refs upheld it, Denver lost their last challenge and couldn't review the even more obvious fumble/scoop/score.
This game was a couple of plays away from being a blowout.
When you watch the film, Aaron Rodgers had a pretty good game considering he was always getting hit
What went wrong with A Rodgers ..... he got old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rodgers..."I don't play no stinking pre-season games."...so, Rodgers is not on the same page with his receivers.
1:35 GW5 looks wide open here
They showed up but didn't play any football, is what happened 😂
Ah five sacks and horrendous pressure from start to end of game is what went wrong plus Breece Hall that won’t take a hit before going down and scared to pass block
What you mean running right into the D line 50 times did not work? WTF
The play at 9:15 I saw as the receiver getting tripped. It's a DPI that never gets called because officials never call DPI on the same player on consecutive 4-down series, so good play by the defender.
I think we can assume that the the route doesn't end with "and then fall down". There are three possible opinions 1) there's no interference, Williams just slipped 2) there was interference, and that's bs, or 3)there was interference, but good CB's know that right after they've been called for interference they've got a tiny window where they won't get called, so good play.
What you can't do is pretend the ball placement's the issue when the receivers chest is face-down after he tries to cut. Watch it in slow-mo if you need to. The ball is placed for a cut back. Williams is making the exact move that you JUST got on Wilson and Gibson for not making.
Run the ball with Allen
Gipson was clueless there?!?! like what are you doing????
Rogers wasn’t the problem the broncos defense is legit!!
The Jets should let the coaching staff stay for the rest of the year but after this season they need to be gone. The GM Joe Douglas assembled a very talented team but the coaching staff just isn't it. Time and time again the jets make stupid decisions that lose them games. The Jets have Jordan Travis out of FSU who could learn much under Aaron. I think the jets have a strong core and could be very competitive with better coaching
Asking Rodgers to get the ball out quickly is asking a zebra to leave his stripes at home.
Rogers has the fastest release in the NFL -- at least through week 3. I haven't checked the updated stats for week 4, but you don't know what you're talking about.
Hate to say it but Rodgers could make the Raiders contenders
You know there's a what if when Favre wanted Moss and he was on the raiders when Rodgers was a backup.
If the Raiders played against him every week, sure. He's not CLOSE to an elite QB anymore. He's average.
Ball on the 1 and you NEVER give your 240lb RB the ball once. Why does Breece deserve so much loyalty when he's not a great between the tackles runner? Could have put the game away there. Denver's offense was atrocious. They only scored because Sutton was open on an assignment mess up.
Yet Denvers offense scored a td and the jets didn't smh
@@julsc2106 exactly my point. there's no way you shouldnt score from the 1. even denver with a trash rookie QB scored.
I agree, when an offense scores because the defense makes a mistake it shouldn't really count... it's not fair 😡
Yea... That "beautiful throw" was clearly out of bounds buddy
same as last year ZW would have won this game
No he wouldn't have because Greg The Leg made every clutch kick last year and this year he looks lost on anything over 40 yds
that 3rd and 1 he could have slung it to Conklin
What I saw a team that can't play in bad weather games, who's overly dependent on Rogers. They can't run block and didn't have an answer to pressure defense. They offense was out of sync the entire game. The lost to inferior team with better defense and coaching.
There is zero evidence that the Broncos are inferior to the Jets. And even less evidence now.
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Wilson is open on every single play. Rodgers just needs to trust he’ll make that play
He doesn't trust him.
Alot of the time when wilson is open he either doesn't run the route right or rodgers is past him in the read/cant get him the ball bc hes got a guy in his lap.
I’m pretty sure PS2 was trying to bait Rodgers a lot with trying to make it look like Wilson is open
We know what Wilson can do with the ball in his hand. You gotta get your player makers the ball. First three plays shown Rodgers had him, just pass it he’ll make the play. Rodgers needs to stop playing scared about throwing ints
You must be blind Lmfaoo
They did run a couple wr screens they just weren’t successful at all
Arrogance.
Here to lick the tears of Jet fans
You really think we have any tears left!?
It’s one game