Mantua F-7 from 1993, Teardown, Clean, & Re-lube How to
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- Antique store find. Brand new, never opened. Show how to disassemble and re-lube the 1993 all newly engineered Mantua F-unit locomotive and showcase it running the rails. 2000+ Subs shout out!!!
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Thanks!
Thank you very much Tim!! Very kind of you 🙂
Mantua Classics and Model power locomotives shared the same Chinese manufacturing plant. I am guessing this based on similarities in design. Metal chassis with the same kind of motor and all wheel pick up/drive. Their trucks are the same as well. They are excellent creepers and smooth runners if lubricated as you have demonstrated so well in this video. Thank you for inspiring me to break mine down and follow the same procedures.
Interesting! Thanks for your input, glad I could give you some inspiration :-)
I love this channel, look forward to the new videos, your display is amazing and the humor too.
Thanks so much!
Another great video! I was just gonna look up the history of Mantua then watched this video. Mind blown that you are reading the minds of your viewers now! The perfect recipe of knowledge, history, humor, collecting, tinkerin, and fun makes your channel my new absolute favorite channel. Thanks for all the great videos! Keep em commin! 🚂
Thanks for your very kind words!! :-)
I don’t model any particular era, but it looks “real”. However, I’m a sucker for these types of sets. When showing off your set to someone, they think the whole thing is neat and goofy sets like these, or the A Team train, a Hershey train, etc makes people smile.
Collectable sets can take over a person. Some of them fancy Bachmann made sets sure catch my eye.
For Father's Day this year I got a 1992 Bachmann Olympic train set. When I was 13 I ordered that set via the mail and sent in my money and whatever box tops or stickers they required. I got a letter back that they had sold out. For 30 years I always wanted one and got one new in the box and it ran like it was brand new. My wife rolled her eyes and my kids loved it. Mission Accomplished!
@@houstonpatricks Sending in to order something and having to wait the 4 to 6 weeks it took back then, only to be disappointed by a sold out letter......Thats tuff to recover from as a kid. I'm glad your story has a happy ending with you finally getting one!!
I laughed out loud watching you try to get that F unit out of the molded insert! I was surprised to see that they modified the tooling on the reefer chassis to reflect the Super Bowl set. Your videos just keep getting better and better.
Thanks for your kind words! That effin insert. All the cars were like that. I'm surprised nothing more broke other than a step.
The company was called Mantua Metal Products. Most people were not afraid of putting a k i t together because people were used to working with their hands. Most people preferred k i t s over ready to run because it was cheaper. I remember a quote in Model Railroader where the kid was saying while it's not even put together or painted or anything and the guy behind the counter said that's part of the fun.
:-)
Another great video. I love your comments. Dried like “EAR WAX” is a classic. And the bleeping when the frame came out and crashed to the floor. The company never thought the packaging would be that bad. Congratulations on 2,000 subs. You have a very entertaining channel.
try the rubber foam which can become sticky if too warm
Glad you enjoyed it
Another fantastic video from you Ron. I’m sure you got your hands full with all the projects and things that you have now! It’s great to see you so positive and happy with the channel. You’ve yielded quite the following now and someday you will grow to be that giant TH-cam channel! Congratulations on 2,000 subscribers as well! You deserve all that support and success my friend.
I can’t wait to see more content Ron, I know you have your day job, and life does happen. But your consistent releases are great to watch and binge on after a good couple days or week. So happy with your channel!
May you have a Happy Thanksgiving with your family! And maybe a gravy train or two? 😂
Thanks for your kind words once again Marc. I hope your holidays are kind to you!
I'm not into Football but I will admit this Superbowl set is really nice.
It is nicely put together!
Great vid Ron, I have a Vintage Blue Boxed Mantua 2-8-2 Mikado 8 car GN Set USA MADE 1986 complete with THE ORIGINAL Catalog of that year and Mantua Signed Lifetime Warranty Letter. Also included an MCR Railpower 1200 pack that I added a digital Volt/Amp display.
Bought it New in 1986 and it is still a SOLID heavy weight Loco . All Great details and mechanics 😎😎😎😎😎🚂
Sounds like you have a pretty awesome set there! I wonder if MRC will honor that warranty ? :-)
@@classicmodeltrains that’s a good question, is still in New condition and pulls a good 12-18 stock consist 😎
Before the 1970s so much train stuff was made in America I remember in a magazine that into shifts at Lionel they could produce 1600 train set. Train nuts are born they are not made you can't turn somebody into a train nut. It's just like being a motorcycle nut it's in the blood. Just like with toy trains regular people can't understand your fascination with either trains or motorcycles. They just don't get it. Which is why it makes it special for us. That's what gives us our Brotherhood our common passion shared. Whether it be toy trains or motorcycles or both.
I like them both. My motorcycle has never tried to kill me, only others on the road have tried. The ignorant "others" on the road has caused me to not ride anymore. My trains are a pretty safe pastime.
@@classicmodeltrains there was an article in classic toy train where some cheapskate try to save some money and instead of putting smoke fluid in his locomotive he put WD-40 in his locomotive. When you turned it on it sent out a column of flame that ended up setting his house on fire. Now there was another article so many people think the new trains they can work on them like the old train yet there are high-capacity circuits in there that if you touch them even if the train is off they store electricity and you could be shocked real bad if you have a pacemaker if you screw that up or anything like that. They advised to leave the repairs of the newer electronic Laden trains do a hobby shop or send it off for service.
Excellnt video featuring HO maintenance. Yes, specific to this brand and era perhaps, but good info. Love the history lesson at the beginning. Keep up the good work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
And now, it's back to being a very nice, very entertaining, toy. This is exactly what it's supposed to be. Somebody's bound to love this set in the future, and it's all because of your talents on display here. Well done!!!
We agree! Thanks for commenting MC
Wow, I had no idea about the Mantua reboot! That loco totally exceeded my expectations. That packaging though! I learn so much from you, Ron! Thank you from New Zealand (where the hobbits live).
Yup. Them Mantua's from the late 70's to mid 90's were quite nice. Much better than the 50's & 60's versions. Greetings from up in Montana.
Very, very nice video! Kudos my Friend!
The F7 motor is a Mabuchi FK-260; although been a three pole one, you saw how smooth it is. Her trucks look like the Mehano’s ones that equipped the last versions of RS-2s, RS-11s and GP-18s sold in the States under the Model Power Brand. Mechanically speaking her sole flaw for me is the absence of flywheels, but that’s ok on your model, based on her amps and volts readings.
One again, my best compliments Ron for your almost 2.1 K followers. This should show you that you’re on the right track! Please keep doing your marvelous work. We really appreciated it so much!😊
Greetings Regis! You sure know your motors!! A few others have mentioned the lack of flywheels. I'm guessing since the company was re-formed in 1977, flywheels were not as big of an idea as they are now. The engineers were not on board. Thanks once again for your kind words!
Thanks for your video !!
I bought an old Mantua locomotive a while back and it definitely need a good cleaning. Your video was exactly what I needed to get this engine running.
After cleaning and new lubricantion it runs like it’s brand new !!!
Glad to be helping out Tony
Great job on the maintenance. And congratulations on the growth of your channel. You do a great job and I really enjoy watching!
Thank you very much!
Fantastic Ron, on your Mantua maintenance review video. Loved it, Happy Thanksgiving ❗🐓🚂 Frank
I grew up in Woodbury Heights, NJ where the Mantua Metals and later Tyco factory was located. Just to let you know, it's pronounced Man-chew-ah, not Man-two-ah. You're correct that in the beginning, it was all kits you had to put together. Lots of people in town and the surrounding area got their first jobs at the factory, including my sister. My mother in law also worked there. When you went into the lobby, there was a wall of trains a lot like the one behind you. There was a reject pile at the back of the factory where they would destroy the trains that had imperfections. Some of us would raid that pile before they got destroyed, and we'd fix them up as good as we could. Many of us in town had Mantua and/or Tyco train sets when we were kids.
What a AWESOME story James!! Thanks for sharing. Pretty cool you young-uns would pilfer the junk pile for treasures and whoop them into shape. A dream come true for sure. With my un-official poll I took only a few people say it "chew-a". I guess that's how you tell the locals from the visitors. Majority of people (98%) use "two-a". Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
Glad to see you got the Chiefs reefer fixed. Neat video.
Thanks 👍
I love seeing these old sets and cannot get over the advancements in technology of the printing.
Greetings Heath, It's pretty amazing how they bulk paint up these models
Yeeaaaaahhhhh ❤ i just sold a set like this from 1993. engine is an absolute tank
Engine is pretty cool!!
Wow that was awesome to watch. I really love that Oakland Raiders train car. I think I would buy the whole set just because of that one car itself. It is such a piece of art/commercial art AMERIKANA IF you like that stuff. Harkens back the memories as a kid when I had a pencil set with all the NFL teams on it. I thought that was so cool. 1993 was one of the last years the Cowboys won a bowl game.
Thanks for watching!
Nice job indeed , Ron. A pleasure to watch this video. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
I picked up the AFC and NFC sets at the Mildenhall Base Exchange for $25.00 each, in 1994. I have since acquired all the teams Mantua made, and even made my own Texans and Titans cars.
Pretty cool!!
Thanks for the history lesson.
I hope I didnt re-write anything ;-)
Fascinating history about Mantua. I have a Mantua HO scale model of EMD F7A/B combo. (the 'B' unit is an unpowered dummy loco). In Pennsylvania Railroad gold 5-stripe and Tuscan Red finish. Found at a local model train shop a couple of years ago. Great runner appears to be very well made. Came with original red boxes I have no idea of manufacture date but the boxes do state 'made in China' I know they are older because they have the old style 'horn' couplers. I was not aware of the Mantua brand before I found the locos at the train store the sales person told me Mantua made some good trains. I've found that to be the case in the locos I bought.
I'm curious if you have the re-released Mantua's from the late 70's to 90's? The original Mantua's came in a red box marked Tyco and were from 1960 to 1970. They were all made in America. The re-releases were re-engineered and quite a lot better than the ones from the 60's.
Your videos are absolutely invaluable . I'm up to my eyeballs in these dogs and I now have a bit of hope...keep em coming.
Thank you! Glad to help other fellers out :-)
Ron, what you have is the AFC set, there was also a NFC set produced. But even before these two sets Mantua came out with a complete set that included both conferences and then for several years they put out a car with the current year's Super Bowl winner. I have the original set and all the winner cars until they quit producing them.
Yup! Ive seen pictures of larger sets. Would be cool to have them all, if I was into football. Where's the NASCAR stuff? :-)
Hi, Ron. I have my 1980 tyco train set from Sears still so was looking for a tutorial on maintenance. I subscribed a couple months ago and see we live in the same town how cool. Looking forward to attempting my first tune up. Keep up the good work!
Hello Tim, Thanks for the Sub and the channel support. It's cool to hear from others here in Billings. Most of the guys I run into are into all the new fancy stuff. Reach out to me on my FB. classic model trains
@@classicmodeltrains I'll check it out and follow. Thanks
Another fine show, Ron! Don’t much appreciate the showy “collector’s” set of football teams, either, but I guess some folks would like them. Mantua is my favorite steam loco manufacturer and Tyco has many similar if not identical locos, so I’m not too fussy about them. (BTW, I’ve heard Mantua pronounced Man-to-ah and also Man-chew-ah. I don’t know which one is correct, maybe both for different applications and I am not going to argue the issue.) My preference is the Mantua Red presentation box issue locos. Those usually have certificates of authenticity and extra detail parts on the locos.
Wish you well and hope your channel keeps growing, Ron. And, Happy Holidays!
Greetings 13th, I agree on the red presentation boxes. Those look really nice. Only seen em on e-bay. Probably need to get at least one to fondle. Happy T-day to you and yours also :-)
Nice job on that set Ron!
Congratulations.
Thanks for sharing your video.
Thanks for watching!
Nice set, I have.the very same box cars very cool. 👍👌😇,
Yes they are!
That set is really nice! Have a spare container so you can lid the mineral spirits. The performance of the locomotive reinforces your statement of Mantua quality.
Good idea on a small container :-)
I don’t care for football either.
But the collector factor of that set should bring a fair price for it, later.
Good video!
If I ever get a Mantua Locomotive, at least I have this video to figure out how to maintain it.
Right on! Thanks for commenting :-)
Congrats on 2k subscribers Ron keep up the great work.
Thank you very much!!
Awesome set! Nice overhaul of the locomotive.
Glad you like it
Ron, I'm sure you know from your research. Tyco is the earliest and largest manufacture of Ice Coolers.
Greetings Lynn, actually Life-like was the ones that started off making styrofoam coolers. I did an episode on them during my 4th of July 4 day specials. The company is called life-foam and there still around.
To watch these videos is just calming for me. Like you, I know nothing about football. Maybe when the bears were doing to Superbowl shuffle...but, I am a baseball guy. Ask me about the White Sox and I can tell you everything. same with car and trucks. Ask me about A body GM and 47 to 87 Chevy trucks.
Glad you enjoy my video's. I know nothing about sports, unless the word "motor" appears before the word sports :-)
Great review! Will,have to look for a Mantua Classic set now. Though not into foot ball either so it will have to meet the alcohol bath and be repainted and decalled. Happy anniversary Ron! Hope for many more videos! Take care and all the best.
Thanks for your kind words EC!
@@classicmodeltrains of course they are well deserved. Happy Turkey Day!
Wow. that's clean. Nice looking train.
Thank you very much!
The boxed set was the basic set. Multiple cars were available to add to it individually. It was advertised in the model railroading magazines during the early and mid 1990s.
Yup, I guess the whole collection was AFC and NFC Super Bowl teams for 1993. Ive seen a boxed set that has all the cars in it.
Hey Ron Love Your layout Like your collection.
Thank you :-)
Sweet! I’m loving that Trainset 🚂
Thanks
Thanks for the information on this locomotive . I bought one that is a C liner with the same drive in it
Ohhh? C-liner? Now I want one!!!! :-)
Nice video Ron, You are a great inspiration and I'm seeing a lot of helpful tips in your videos which is great as well. The white mat was an excellent choice for camera friendly background while working on stuff. I'm a ways behind your channel, but love all types of trains and enjoy posting infomrative videos of my stuff as well. Good luck and keep up the great work! I can't wait until you hook up on some shiney prewar Lionel tinplate to go with that Marx set!! You will LOVE it!
Greetings and thanks for your kind words. I've never run across Lionel tinplate. Probably to much $$ for me to buy if I did :-)
The nice thing about the Mantuas is that the couplers are body mounted, so upgrading to Kadees is butt simple.
I hear ya there!!
I'm catching up on your content. It's great! You keep it very interesting and entertaining!
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for supporting my channel :-)
Congratulations on your 2000 subscribers!
God bless you!
Thank you so much 😀
Nice! I’m surprised how nice it is!
Me too!
Another great video Ron!! BTW, it was me that mentioned the wrong name on the car. Super Bowl V was the Baltimore Colts. Still pissed with the NFL on that one. There was along story to that as well, but not going there here on that. :)
Hello Ray! That's right... When I had this set posted on my FB page. Another comment mentioned the wrong team also. If my memory was half as long as my nose I would have remembered it was you. :-)
Very cool set, the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl twice, once in 1970 and most recently 2020, although the later isn't depicted on the Tyco set as it was made well before that 2nd Super Bowl victory!
Thanks for the info!
god luck Ron you do good videos and I especially like the history of the brands that you tell us about so keepit up from the gang down under down under wwe love your shows Stevie
Glad you like them!
Thank you Ron for another great video! Have a Happy Thanksgiving!!!
Happy holidays!
Thank you Ron keep the set love your channel and your service segment incredible work and Happy Thanksgiving too you and your family Happy Railroading!!!
Thanks, you too!
Pour your odorless mineral spirits into another little bowl, and then put the cap back on the can as it should be (so it doesn't evaporate away on you). It DOES have a slow evaporation rate, nothing like acetone or denatured alcohol but it's still going away. I know you're doing a video for us, but I'm speaking to everyone here. 👌
Yeah I like it for its slow evaporation properties but you do make a good point. Safety First! :-)
MUST HAVE. NOW!!!!!
I like the way you think!!
Keep up your good work! You have the capability of educating and entertaining at the same time.
I appreciate that!
Another great recondition video, and congrats on hitting 2k! Keep it up Ron! 👍👍🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃💯
Thank you :-)
Ron, I just love your channel. I appreciate your video expertise, and your presentation of "how to do stuff". Never boring! I find your historical presentations about the models, the companies and the people who made them extremely interesting and something I haven't seen on any other model railroading channels. Please continue doing so if you can. But most of all I love your humor...you are a hoot! So keep up the outstanding work, you have a new subscriber and fan!
Thank you for your kind words, This really made my day :-)
Alright Ron! Unseen set on this side of the line. To bad the rolling stock was alittle shabby. All Hockey Commemorative set over here. Sets got a good home now🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲🚃🚃🚃🙋
Right on
I live in Honolulu Hawaii i buy train stuff online and it's really pricey. There's just 1 hobby store here and it ain't much. There is a hobby store on the island of Kauai called Beachrail Lines seen it online looks awesome probably going to take a few days of vacation time and fly up and check it out. Thanks for the videos 👍👍
Thanks for watching. Hope you find some good deals on your trip.
This one is a love hate video for me lol only because they don’t have Houston cart 😂😂😂😂 we will get a ring in one of these life time 😂😂😂 awesome video
Thanks.
This is a really nice looking set. This is the AFC set. There is also an NFC set. They also made individual team box cars.
Yup!
Awesome Channel & Host
Thank you so much!!
Hey Ron its Zoe and I like your trains
Hello Zoe! Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
thats cool nice find
Thanks
I Iove you videos and congratulations on over 2,000 subscribers
Thank you so much!
New subscriber working through previous videos. Leave a comment and mash the “like” button (before watching the video), gotta feed the algorithm!
Thank you for the new Sub and feeding the "monster" ;-)
TY
:-)
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the "Super Thanks"
Sweet.
Thanks!
Hang on to it.
I'm thinking of selling it actually
I should have bought Bachman's HO Presidential series set . Spectrum series ... about 22 years ago it was about $750
WOW!! Big dollars on that set!
You should try to get a Rivarossi HO scale ICRR 382 4-6-0 Casey Jones, it’s a good looking model
Ive been eye ballin a Casey Jones made by Varney. I didnt know Rivarossi made one. I shall look into that
Nice video if you’re looking for a spirit of 76 unit with the US Seal there are a few on ebay for a reasonable price
Thanks for the tip!
Do you watch smt Mainline? He works on alot of trains both old and new and surprises me and makes me happy as a model train fan to see someone so young be so knowable on older model trains and how to fix them and run them as well
I've seen a couple of his Vid's. He has a TON of followers and great channel support.
sweet
Thanks
I am from MN and used to be a model railroader, i live townhome so space for a layout
Sorry to hear about no space. That happens sometimes
That gear box looks quite like an AHM 6500 RS-2
Could be. I hear these were made in the same china plant as other manufacturers loco's. Could be they used very similar drives
no worries Ron that is my own saying not common Tassie slang but it should be Steve
Gotcha! :-)
Have you ever had to repair a Bachmann pancake motor. I have bought a F40PH with a good motor but the index gears were broken. I made her a dummy locomotive.
I have a few but have not produced a repair video on them. A lot of that Bachman has them brittle gears and are un-repairable. Same parts broken in the donor locomotive.
I like your pronunciation of Mantua (Man-2-aw) but I like to pronounce it (man-taw)
Yup, A few comments have come up with different pronunciations. Now I wonder which one is the "right" way :-)
Just curious have you weighed that caboose I have a New York Central it had a double weightt in it and i took one weight out of it because it was too heavy the way it was.,......
I guess I never did weigh the caboose.. Dang it!! knew there was something I forgot. The set is packed away now or I would do it now.
I have a NS can motor drive f7a unit locomotive from bachmann and the locomotive can't really pull heavier cars and it has the same drive as the set that you are cleaning
I'm wondering if perhaps the "traction tires" are hard and brittle and need replacing?
A set like that. Really made to be run like a regular train set because it's more of a fantasy paint scheme that's the kind of train set people by just because there was a football and they never run it they leave it in the Box hell you could have a dummy locomotive in the Box said it would make any difference. It's like the Harley Davidson train set or the Indian Motorcycle train set. It's something to have in your collection not really meant to run. Do you know there is such a thing as a Model Railroader retirement home. I saw an advertisement for one in Ohio now imagine when you're old and feeble and you're living and a nursing home and everybody there is a train. And there are operating layouts for your enjoyment. That's my kind of Nursing Home.
Collectable sets look good on a wall shelf. I need to get my name on the waiting list of this retirement home. Sounds like my kinda place.
oh and if your wondering where down unde down under is it Tasmania Australia next stop Antarctica Stevie
I was thinking Australia, or New Zealand, Now I know Tasmania has it's own "slang" term. Thanks for the info Stevie :-)
Is that a Central Valley truss bridge?
I believe it's from Walther's
@@classicmodeltrains pretty cool
It doesn’t have the 85 Bears on it I Am sure they Have More superBowl Cars they do Right?
Ive seen pictures of larger sets. Perhaps there's more designs out there.
Nice set! I'm like you that would be sold, Not a fan of those type of sets like that!
You and me both!
I didn't see any cheerleaders!
:-)
Here you go Ron, I checked out the Goodwill sales based on one of your videos and low and behold ended up purchasing the train showcased in this video.. It's all your fault!! Thanks buddy! :) th-cam.com/video/D0mXWLndPU0/w-d-xo.html
Good stuff
Creapy
Right!
You know what, mine is bigger,,, set put out at later date
I now have two of the locos, so the maimtence tips will help
Ive seen pictures of larger sets. Up to 12 cars I believe.
Too bad the mortar wasn't flywheel drive..,...
Yup! That would have been super nice!!!