I love the TSX as well. Have had mine for 11 years, and its a fun car to drive, even if the power level isnt up to par as most vehicles these days. With the tasteful mods I have added its a reliable, fun car even with 337k on it. 😊 But I may upgrade sedans one day. M3 maybe?
I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. These were pretty popular when they came out and the design has aged well. An unpopular opinion would be to say something like the grill beak on the second generation TSX looks good.
Its a solid looking car, nothing special. It is basically just an accord though and you can tell just by looking at it. But that said, Accords are pretty good looking cars most times than not
The performance aspects of this car were glossed over a bit. This chassis won world touring car championships and was chosen over the DC5 by race teams due to its superior geometry and suspension. It's one of the last Hondas with true double wishbone suspension. The k24 in the 06-08 is the strongest k24 ever made and is swapped into everything. With good choice in simple mods you can make a ton of power for a NA 4 cylinder, and keep going for 300k miles+
Mid Ohio's racing school had a fleet of TSXs they used as the training cars when these were new. Fantastically capable cars on track and great on the street too.
In Aus we got both and this was literally sold as the Accord Euro. My friend has one and I love the thing. It's perfect for a road trip. Ita not fast no but it's the perfect mix of comfortable for long stretches of highway mixed with competent on a windy country road mixes with "this thing is common enough and easy to service enough that I know if something goes wrong I'll be able to get it fixed in the next town" It is the best all round sedan I can think of.
My daily driver is a 2009 6mt TSX, my friends describe it as an "end of an era" car. One of the last cars made before automakers bloated every car with too much technology, screens, ect. It always reminded me more of a Civic than an Accord though.
@@shanxW16 I mean I'm sure there are trucks that have similar wheel bases.... But that isn't really relevant to anything is it? The geometry and control is completely different than the cheap civic one meaning the ride and handling are much better and can deal with the extra mass of a car not made to be cheap as possible. Also the accord euro is the regular accord. The US accord is the odd boy in most places around the world. Most people don't like the US accords giant floaty nonsense.
Safety requirements go up every generation so manufacturers need to bloat everything up with better crumple zones, expected tech from consumers, especially from a luxury brand. But it's crazy to see how a TSX from then is pretty close to a fully loaded 10th gen 4 door Civic Si.
This is the ultimate mid-2000s upper middle class generic appliance car. It's like the GE Profile of cars. It does everything right but doesn't stand out as too faaannccyyy
I just bought a 2004 Acura TSX with 256k miles on it. It truly is an accord that plays golf. Still that legendary Honda reliability but with subtle luxury features that you wouldn’t even think of. The gauges slowly brighten as you get in the car and begin to start it, you can roll all the windows down using the key fob, standard luxury features like a moonroof and heated seats, the most durable leather seats I’ve ever seen, the safety features rival cars of today, and the styling still looks new. The car struggles to feel dated even 20 years later. And for the car being 20 years old and crazy high mileage, everything still works as it rolled off of the lot in 04. Starts right up, shifts smooth, handles exceptionally. The 1st gen TSX is the pinnacle of a Honda sedan for those who wouldn’t be caught dead driving a civic. Although a rebadged European accord, it carries itself in the states as esteemed, responsible, and of course reliable. The TSX as to the accord is like wearing a collared shirt to work instead of a T shirt.
Accords since at least 2003 can roll all the windows down (and open the sunroof) with the key fob, at least on high trims. Really a TSX has VERY similar equipment to any garden-variety Accord EX-L.
I was trying to persuade my parents to buy a TSX for me when I was a teenager, but because it's an Acura and my "no body wants to work no more" uncle said "Acura for A TEENAGER !?" So I ended up with an Accord with 6MT. Good times. 20 years later I still have a 6MT Accord, haven't exactly figure out a way to live without one.
The K24A2 is the best k series we got in the states. Unfortunate that it was only available in such a heavy chassis. Throw it into an EG, EK, DC2, or even RSX and you have some of the most fun possible in a FWD car.
The entire video talks about the "Accord" but there's a distinction to be made, this is the EU market Accord brought over to the US as an Acura. It's not the same Accord we had in the US at the time.
For my fellow Canadians, we have our version of a spiced up Honda Civic called the Acura (1.6/1.7)EL and the Acura CSX. In the day, specifically with the TSX being referred to as a “rebadged accord,” they also made a “rebadged civic” but only for the Canadian market. The EL is a better civic than a civic with luxurious amenities the civic never got with a “better”engine (coming straight from Canada’s version of the civic SI). Basically, the EL is a car modelled after the 6th and 7th generation Honda civics and is sold exclusively in Canada but more upscale. The second generation that I have (1.7EL) has a slightly beefier engine (127hp, instead of 106 for the civics here) more torque at 114, and unique headlights/taillights. It also came with 15 inch alloy spoked wheels, heated powered mirrors, sunroof, headed leather seats (for the premium model) auto climate control and automatic HVAC direction, cruise control, rear disk breaks, front and rear roll bars, more sound insulation, and better ride quality. As mentioned, with the higher trims, the premium version came with a leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter, as well as some "wood" trim. There was a refresh around 2004 that restyled headlamps, standard fog lights (not available on civic), 2 addional tweeters, and a restyled steering wheel. There was also at the time, an aero OEM aero package that came with a unique front and rear lip as well as side skirts and a spoiler. The Acura CSX however, is the one you’ve probably seen. If you seen the JDM version of the 8th gen civic, I heard they actually got styling cues from the Canadian version called the CSX. And just like the EL’s, it was a fancier civic with leather upholstery, and in later upper trim models, came with navigation built in. So, even if the TSX is an “accord in a tuxedo,” it’s not a bad thing at all, and Honda/Acura has made nicer models on existing platforms and rebadged them with the Acura logo (case in point, the new Integra)
Interesting. Canada seems to have the better Honda’s and Acura’s compared to the states. Might just be because they have one of their plants in Ontario. But yall really do have it good lol
@@Arnold127ColesSo true! For example, our 2022 Civic SI’s has amentitiee that the American SI doesn’t have, such as (stolen from a stranger on Reddit) fog lights, heated wheel, heated front and rear seating, standalone shift lights, turn signal mirrors, colour customizable gauges, dual climate control, wireless charging, and auto dimming mirrors. All for a little cheaper too (ignoring COL).
The EL models were really the Civic SI's moved over to the Acura dealers. We're a small market and Acura needed a smaller volume model to keep the numbers up... this was before they really took off with the MDX/RDX SUVs. The CXS, on the other hand, was something nice... supposedly the 8th gen JDM Civic was based on it. The CXS was the only one that was truly it's own thing... a 2.0l K20 in a 8th gen Civic body, and the Type S version was the Civic Si but in leather.
TSX is hard to beat. God-tier double wishbone front suspension with a 5 arm watts multi-link in the rear. A few well selected modifications really makes these something special. upgrade the front lower arm bushings, get some adjustable front upper control arms to get some camber in there, and a rear sway bar with some good tires and you'll be shocked how neutral they handle. Find the limit and it starts to understeer a hair, but lift off the throttle and it turns in perfectly. lets you drive it right on the edge and just backing off lets you correct the line. basic intake header exhaust ECU really wakes up the powerband. I've had my 6MT TSX since 2012 with now 250K on it and i can't really see a compelling upgrade. Only thing really calling me is a 6MT SHAWD 12-14 TL but then i'm going from 35 MPG highway to low 20s. The TSX also has much better styling but that's subjective. a TSX with JDM euro R lips is a real looker.
Sounds a bit pretentious tbh. After all this is just an Euro/Jp accord, assembled at a Honda plant in Japan. No more or less precision than any other Honda at the same plant would have had. So if it's just a regular old Honda in the rest of the world, what's the point of the badge?
What? New Gen Civic type R is one of the best modern cars ever made. Only comes in manual... Who else is doing that? Standard Civic SI is under 3K lbs and only comes in manual. Last company to have a coupe, manual with a 3.5 as a variant of their family sedan. They have been doing the Lord's work.
@Stevenhiggles dude the new civics rock and the accord is still just as good as the 2019 generation which is amazing. Hondas been consistent,More consistent than toyota nowadays. My only issue is the prices but that's just the market.
This comparative study of manuals vs automatics was amazing. A philosophical dive into one's preference only to arrive at basically whatever floats your boat in the end. RCR is magnificent. The story telling is unmatched. Only Top Gear in my opinion (With Clarkson, Hammond and May) can hold a candle to RCR. Beautifully executed and it never fails to place a mirror in your own face for self reflection. Bravo gentlemen.
this video genuinely made my year. i have an 06 tsx and have always wondered what a review for it would look like from you guys. thank you so much this is awesome
@@peterfi. Dont be the mom that tells johnny to put on a hat and gloves cuz its "pneumonia whether". Its obviously better to be cool than safe lol... Just kidding... Thats a good tip
@@peterfi. Even if he removes the badge, im pretty sure this car is equipped with a tikata air bag that has the deadly projectiles built in from factory lol...
I imagined it getting shot and I'm honestly surprised how graphic my imagination can simulate such a scenario in seconds. Now im scared of ANYTHING on steering wheels.
When it comes to manual transmissions it appeals to a specific type of demographic. The demographic that likes feeling as though they have some additional control over the vehicle. It's similar to the people that value Linux as an operating system compared to Windows. You feel as though you have control over the OS. Sure it takes a little effort to initially learn it and a little more effort to do it well, but as it is in both cases, whether or not it's your favorite pretty much comes down to if you like taking the little frills easy way, or if you take the option that requires a little bit of work, but at the end you feel more connected to it for bothering to take the time in the first place. I happen to like that connection myself, but not everyone will feel the same way.
Yes I have been driving manual daily for 22 years now, all of my cars have been manual, don’t even look at auto… I just like being *engaged*. I drive completely normal, don’t need to pretend like I’m racing or anything. Idk how to explain it, just love it.
I ask this of anyone I hear ragging on their car. -Does it work? -Does you like it? -Does you really care? That Acura seems like the automotive equivalent of that friend of yours who smokes too much, but will always help you move and will answer the phone at 2:30am. Keep ones like that around, no matter how uncool they may be.
I am not a "car girl" by nature, but through the tireless work of my husband and the pure joy I get when listening to a beautifully written, passionate soliloquy such as this, I have grown to care deeply about cars and the culture that surrounds them. I love language - the power of words, the music of their performance, the emotion of their poetry, and there are few who wield them better than this author. I look forward to every video essay The Roman releases, even if I am not well-versed in the topic, because I know they will be filled with passion, philosophy, humor, and humanity. Thank you for the education. Also, as someone who learned stick in my high school parking lot in about 30 minutes, manual transmissions forever, baby!
Just sold my 2008 TSX manual with 322k miles on the clock. It ran and looked like it had 70k miles or less. These cars have a subtle something special about them. Awesome to see them getting attention.
So an Accord then. That was just one of the three engine options for the Accord in Europe and the Accord Euro in Australia or Japan. K20, and 24 + a K22 diesel. This is just a rebadge of the Accord from the above mentioned after all.
@Glenni91N yes the TSX is a rebadged Accord Euro R. The only difference between this and the Accord EX-L is the front and rear end. However the Acura TL is it's own thing.
I've grown up with my TSX as my dad owned it before me. I learned to drive stick on it as well and it's been a rock in my life as it's given my family and I no trouble. It's fun enough getting the performance I can out of it and i quite like the interior and exterior (and especially that sound system). Just a really great car!
I had an 08 TSX 6MT for years and absolutely loved it. It was fun to drive, affordable, and had all the features I wanted (heated seats and AC.) Only complaint is with the navi you couldn't add bluetooth without spending a small fortune.
@@Grafyte By now most of those JLS have been recalled and the pressure plate issue has been resolved. At this point, they're way better than the slushbox version of the JL Wrangler. Of course as a stellantis Jeep , a JL Wrangler is going to suck regardless of which transmission it has
Nah, disagree. Sure your fun car had better be a stick, my ‘84 Supra slays. But taking your friends skiing or back home from a concert or just commuting with coffee an auto is nice to have
@@nathanchildress5596 I guess we all have our preferences, but there's no way that I'll ever buy a slush-matic just for coffee runs. That's just goofy. The benefit of an automatic for skiing trips does even more difficult to see. Just drive. It's not that hard to work a clutch. Like oh God how am I going to get these skis and these friends to the slopes and back if I have to shift all by myself?
@@fatrobdouble It's not a preference, I like manual. Driving isn't the problem, it's the other stuff. Maybe you're tired and hungover, maybe your friend is giving directions badly, maybe it's a long trip and you've got a lot of food on your lap. I'll call you a hero if you want me to, but when you aren't driving to have fun then why does it matter?
4:07 *7th generation, not 6th. This body style came out in 2003, same year as the larger 7th generation Accord (I can't say North American Accord because both the larger one and this were sold in Australia, for example).
I have a 2006 TSX Auto-5spd. I feed it 87octane and kept the motor and exhaust stock. I have a wife and newborn child. I love it specifically because IT IS an upscale accord. In 10 years of ownership (bought for $10k in 2016) it has been incredibly reliable. Its needed an AC compressor and new lower control arm bushings, thats it. Fantastic almost 20yr old "luxury" sedan that I use as a family sedan. Think of it as the best Accord money can buy (not including the V6 6mt) and you'll get why this car is phenomenal! Have a great day today and tomorrow!
I remember watching regular car reviews when I was in middle school and y’all are literally apart of my childhood 😭 It’s 6 in the morning randomly got recommended and it’s bringing back so many nostalgic memories
The K24A2 is THE SWAP K series, if someone’s swapping a K series in it’s almost always the K24 from a TSX (if they’re in the U.S anyway). The K24A2 has proper 3 lobe VTEC unlike pretty much every other K24 series engine (again, from the U.S). These are monsters of an engine, capable of making and holding impressive power.
Technically this is a JDM/Euro Accord. The US market Accord was larger (the shot of the back seat is the give away). This was Honda's "sensible man's BMW" and also came in wagon form if you were a REAL euro-wieny. The US market Accord was available in Japan (in limited numbers and a shocking price-point) as the Inspire (which had been one of the US 1st gen TLs JDM names).
Hit the nail on the head. My RSX was absolutely a luxury car with an economy car's soul. And that was both wonderful -- all the Honda goodness -- and sort of dreary.
I owned 2 of these first generation TSXs ('04, '06). It was a fantastic car at the time. It was smaller than the American Accord. To me, it was the perfect size for a daily commuter. I had one with the manual and one automatic. Miss this manual car. It was a joy to own and drive. Very reliable, not expensive to own, and I would regularly get over 30mpg on the highway. This review was incredibly painful to sit through...ugh.
I own the '05 5 speed "manumatic" US version. Honestly, it is an amazing daily driver, minus constantly slurping down 91 octane. I need to do a valve adjustment (thanks Honda) to hopefully fix some idle and fuel consumption issues. Otherwise it is comfy and great!
Theres a lot of good lines in this video about criticism and how we should use it with others and ourselves. Always appreciate some thoughtful commentary that extends beyond the car immediately under review. "What is judgment but criticism without empathy?"
It's not the car i wanted the whole party is ruined! It doesn't matter your guest are having fun! I don't care. It's not about them! It's all about meeeee!
I learned to drive a manual on a 2000 Prelude. Ahhh.... the memories. If it hadn't gotten totaled after I got rear ended at a red light, I like to think I'd still be driving it.
ive had 2 and they were rough, at best 27mpg for the less than tunable 2004 versions and around 200 hp ish BUT this car had the best most ergonomic feel, the shifter was just right, the seat positioned well, an aftermarket stereo with carplay made navigation convenient i loved it
I had this exact car and still regret selling it. Fun, reliable, comfortable, simple, and about 35mpg on the highway if you drive it right. And that design is still gorgeous. Everyone I gave a ride to complimented the car and were consistently surprised when I told them it was a 2006. These cars have aged very elegantly! Outside of an intake for some VTEC goodness, they're not really worth modding; it's not a Civic SI or Integra. Also the repair bill comment at 13:15 is super strange and out of left field. These are known for being INSANELY reliable, and with their Accord roots, are extremely simple and cheap to repair. IIRC only issues to watch out for are a failing starter after 100k miles or so and occasionally an alternator replacement. Lack of research seems to be a bit of a trend in these Roman videos?
Having owned one of these, I can tell you that the throttle programming is the #1 issue with how they drive. It seems like Honda has never quite nailed it with their drive by wire manual cars, and the inconsistency is a killer. Revs drop inconsistently and throttle response is wonky and nonlinear. That + FWD makes for a really mediocre experience.
I think I’m in the minority of people who are car enthusiasts but prefer automatics. I know how to drive both, but I prefer an auto in something I’m gonna drive everyday, while respecting that we should still keep manuals on the road.
People who look down on autos are just virtue signaling. I love driving stick, I’m often looking for an excuse to do so, but having an automatic beater is such a luxury
Oh I'm definitely into this. I learned my driving on stick (it was a fun VW Beetle too that was most memorable), but I just prefer Automatics. Maybe it's the shitty traffic in my country, maybe it's my now lack of practice, but I've ended up preferring automatics while also having an appreciation for the manual too.
The Acura logo actually is to represent the A AND a pair of precision measuring calipers, hence their original brand marketing motto; precision engineered.
I'm the owner of the TSX sportwagon RCR reviewed 2 years ago, and yeah that's the biggest reason I got it. I wanted a dead reliable daily and it's been. I've only done basic maintenance and it passes inspection every year and has never given me an issue
Problem with the tsx was the nepo baby owners - it’s a good nuff car that was held on such a pedestal as to be seen as Nero, fiddling while Rome burnt to the ground ….. So it’s a 2000’s Honda
My dad has a manual Accord that I have to "accidentally take for a drive" any time I visit. Quite fun for a practical sedan. I really wanted one of these manual TSX's until I got a Lexus GS.
I feel like the starter cars to ask for in the 2010~2017 era that had an actual chance of maybe happening for 80%+ of guys were either a similar car to this (or a Tc, Celica, esque coupe) or “4wd truck but it will probably be 2wd”
The european accord. It looks futuristic without being ugly like modern cars. Same goes for the tl. I still can't believe acura got away with producing these cars at that time. Most early 2000s cars were dreary.
I own a 2004 Accord Euro (That's what there are called down here in Australia). This has the 2.4l K24A2. The ride and handling is so sublime, I have driven much recent cars that don't handle as well. Gem of a car!
I taught myself to drive a manual with a 1995 Mazda 323 (yes, there was a '95 in Canada). The dealer drove me home, and I figured out how to drove it over the next 2-3 days. That car was a lot of fun to drive compared to the '86 Chevette I had before that. The stick shift just gave it a feeling of control. 82 horses meant that I could maintain speed on most steep highway hills too, and sometimes even pass. Now I drive a Prius Prime because I am old and value mileage above all else.
An overlooked point in auto v manual: Clutches are cheaper and more DIYable than transmission rebuilds. Complexity adds cost. Many of us are both enthusiasts and lifelong plebs who drive manual out of both fun AND necessity. We have no issue in bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic :)
That's what I always say too. A manual transmission will pretty much always work as good as new when the wear parts are replaced by a competent mechanic whereas getting an automatic overhauled is ALWAYS going to be a crapshoot and in my personal experience, I've seen too many snake eyes to be confident in even the best mechanic.
@@Snicker60515 100%. It might be a bad example but our Chevy 20 series van went through two rebuilds and 3 transmissions total. Each one was thousands. I've also known a lot of people with rebuilds that didn't fail outright but were never quite right. That's not even to mention costly dual clutches and disposable CVTs.
This car is great. I have 2005 Acura RSX Type S that I’ve had so long that it’s got 322k on the Odometer and is now my second car that I use to do merchandising for Coke. I still wish I had bought one of these instead. It’s also, a very real K series with real VTEC on both cams. That K24 is actually popular swap for my car.
Great review of the car and human psychology as always Nick. I agree, a good, honest sedan that'll do the job reliability. I remember these at 19 and I thought they were interesting. I like that the owner replaced the "Acura" badge (which I always thought looked like a compass) with the "Honda" badge.
Manuals are absolutely better for cars meant to be fun. Summer cars, sports cars, sport sedans (small) all are better than automatics. Manuals are better for driver engagement and enjoyment, always.
Reagrding manual vs automatic. Most manuals are okay, and some are great. When it comes to older automatics there are horrible boxes and wonderful boxes. The span are wider. This TSX/Euro Accord has a quite nice five speed slushbox when beeing automatic. However, with that box it drinks enormous amounts of fuel in city, but no more than a manual on the highway. (My personal low record when driving this car with a 155hp 2.0 engine (K20A6) and AT for short drives during cold winter a whole tank where I got 13.8mpg (US). On highway 34mpg were not difficult to reach.)
As somebody who got a 02 accord coupe because I never found an IS300 in decent shape price, I can understand his choice. As someone with crappy ankles automatics are reassuring that they will work one footed. Standards are fun but real stop and stop and stop then go a bit then stop traffic makes them a fun weekend toy not a great in town commuter. Doubled down on the original purchase price (subframe swap, ac redo) 3 years later for repairs still waiting for the used market to reflect the actual depreciated value of cards .
Had one. Good but had to finally get rid of it when the power steering pump and then the rack and pinion both failed within a year of each other. Still got about 170k miles from it though.
How odd. Same problem but both went at once., AC was dead, fuel gauge didnt work and simply replacing the sending unit didnt fix it. So i used it as a trade in. I had it for about 12 years.
@@DarkElfDiva Yeah it surprised me too. I think replacing the pump with a new one had some sort of negative effect on the original rack and pinion so it failed too. That was just too many costly repairs in that period of time for me.
My friend Ed did a great sell on his dad. His first car was a beat '68 Charger R/T. Needless to say his dad was not pleased. His dad said why doesn't he get something dependable like a Nova and he'll loan him the money (this was back in 1978/79). So another friend and I found a Nova for sale that his dad agreed to float a loan for. It was a 1969 Nova SS. Sweet car!
If the owner is right and it's close to needing another new cat, that could definitely contribute to that lack of power or feeling like something is hanging on to the back bumper.
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Unpopular opinion but this is such a good looking car. Interior is clean too
I love the TSX a lot I REALLY love the TSX wagon
I love the TSX as well. Have had mine for 11 years, and its a fun car to drive, even if the power level isnt up to par as most vehicles these days. With the tasteful mods I have added its a reliable, fun car even with 337k on it. 😊 But I may upgrade sedans one day. M3 maybe?
@@Kantoh22 TSX to M3 would be an awesome jump
I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. These were pretty popular when they came out and the design has aged well. An unpopular opinion would be to say something like the grill beak on the second generation TSX looks good.
Its a solid looking car, nothing special. It is basically just an accord though and you can tell just by looking at it. But that said, Accords are pretty good looking cars most times than not
The performance aspects of this car were glossed over a bit. This chassis won world touring car championships and was chosen over the DC5 by race teams due to its superior geometry and suspension. It's one of the last Hondas with true double wishbone suspension. The k24 in the 06-08 is the strongest k24 ever made and is swapped into everything. With good choice in simple mods you can make a ton of power for a NA 4 cylinder, and keep going for 300k miles+
Mid Ohio's racing school had a fleet of TSXs they used as the training cars when these were new. Fantastically capable cars on track and great on the street too.
Funny to me as a European that America's luxury version of a Honda Accord is just the European Honda Accord
i mean we also got the acura TL which is based on the bigger US accord
In Aus we got both and this was literally sold as the Accord Euro. My friend has one and I love the thing. It's perfect for a road trip. Ita not fast no but it's the perfect mix of comfortable for long stretches of highway mixed with competent on a windy country road mixes with "this thing is common enough and easy to service enough that I know if something goes wrong I'll be able to get it fixed in the next town"
It is the best all round sedan I can think of.
It's funny to us as Americans that you need us to come in and win a world war.
But we got the ILX which is made specifically for the us market
@@mrmaggot34 Been a while since I've seen this level of Butthurt! Congrats!
My daily driver is a 2009 6mt TSX, my friends describe it as an "end of an era" car. One of the last cars made before automakers bloated every car with too much technology, screens, ect. It always reminded me more of a Civic than an Accord though.
It was the best car Honda ever made. Not the fastest but it did everything to a high standard. It went down from there hard.
In terms of wheel base, this is actually much closer to a Civic than a regular Accord.
@@shanxW16 I mean I'm sure there are trucks that have similar wheel bases.... But that isn't really relevant to anything is it? The geometry and control is completely different than the cheap civic one meaning the ride and handling are much better and can deal with the extra mass of a car not made to be cheap as possible.
Also the accord euro is the regular accord. The US accord is the odd boy in most places around the world. Most people don't like the US accords giant floaty nonsense.
Safety requirements go up every generation so manufacturers need to bloat everything up with better crumple zones, expected tech from consumers, especially from a luxury brand. But it's crazy to see how a TSX from then is pretty close to a fully loaded 10th gen 4 door Civic Si.
This is the ultimate mid-2000s upper middle class generic appliance car. It's like the GE Profile of cars. It does everything right but doesn't stand out as too faaannccyyy
"Chaos is just the word we give to describe a labyrinth of misunderstanding" - That is an absolutely killer line.
I just bought a 2004 Acura TSX with 256k miles on it. It truly is an accord that plays golf. Still that legendary Honda reliability but with subtle luxury features that you wouldn’t even think of. The gauges slowly brighten as you get in the car and begin to start it, you can roll all the windows down using the key fob, standard luxury features like a moonroof and heated seats, the most durable leather seats I’ve ever seen, the safety features rival cars of today, and the styling still looks new. The car struggles to feel dated even 20 years later.
And for the car being 20 years old and crazy high mileage, everything still works as it rolled off of the lot in 04. Starts right up, shifts smooth, handles exceptionally. The 1st gen TSX is the pinnacle of a Honda sedan for those who wouldn’t be caught dead driving a civic. Although a rebadged European accord, it carries itself in the states as esteemed, responsible, and of course reliable. The TSX as to the accord is like wearing a collared shirt to work instead of a T shirt.
I just mentally checked each of these points thinking about my ‘06 Odyssey. Maybe I have an Acura minivan! 🤔
my 07 accord windows go down with keyfob and has heated mirrors and seats!
Accords since at least 2003 can roll all the windows down (and open the sunroof) with the key fob, at least on high trims. Really a TSX has VERY similar equipment to any garden-variety Accord EX-L.
I was trying to persuade my parents to buy a TSX for me when I was a teenager, but because it's an Acura and my "no body wants to work no more" uncle said "Acura for A TEENAGER !?" So I ended up with an Accord with 6MT. Good times. 20 years later I still have a 6MT Accord, haven't exactly figure out a way to live without one.
The K24A2 is the best k series we got in the states. Unfortunate that it was only available in such a heavy chassis. Throw it into an EG, EK, DC2, or even RSX and you have some of the most fun possible in a FWD car.
I bet some people did.
Instructions unclear now I got K24A2 stuck in my miata
I have a k24a2 in my ep3 civic si. It's what it should have come with from the factory.
Planning on throwing one into my DC2 at some point down the line
i put one in a g1 honda insight
The entire video talks about the "Accord" but there's a distinction to be made, this is the EU market Accord brought over to the US as an Acura. It's not the same Accord we had in the US at the time.
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I don't know what that purse is about, my wife's been using the car
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I work hard, I play hard down in Ocean City, MD.
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Manuals are for driving when you want to. Automatics are for driving when you have to.
In other words, it's also the difference between people who find driving to be an experience, and those who find driving to be a chore.
I couldn't imagine ever needing to drive so badly that I settle for an automatic.
@@DesmondArtois stuck in stop-go congestion on the way to work = auto. Mountain roads, track days, highway cruises = manual.
@@rcfp2006 On highway cruise manual and auto are pretty much the same experience.
@@rcfp2006People love to cope about "muh manual bad in traffic", but in practice it's fine.
For my fellow Canadians, we have our version of a spiced up Honda Civic called the Acura (1.6/1.7)EL and the Acura CSX. In the day, specifically with the TSX being referred to as a “rebadged accord,” they also made a “rebadged civic” but only for the Canadian market. The EL is a better civic than a civic with luxurious amenities the civic never got with a “better”engine (coming straight from Canada’s version of the civic SI). Basically, the EL is a car modelled after the 6th and 7th generation Honda civics and is sold exclusively in Canada but more upscale.
The second generation that I have (1.7EL) has a slightly beefier engine (127hp, instead of 106 for the civics here) more torque at 114, and unique headlights/taillights. It also came with 15 inch alloy spoked wheels, heated powered mirrors, sunroof, headed leather seats (for the premium model) auto climate control and automatic HVAC direction, cruise control, rear disk breaks, front and rear roll bars, more sound insulation, and better ride quality. As mentioned, with the higher trims, the premium version came with a leather wrapped steering wheel and shifter, as well as some "wood" trim.
There was a refresh around 2004 that restyled headlamps, standard fog lights (not available on civic), 2 addional tweeters, and a restyled steering wheel. There was also at the time, an aero OEM aero package that came with a unique front and rear lip as well as side skirts and a spoiler.
The Acura CSX however, is the one you’ve probably seen. If you seen the JDM version of the 8th gen civic, I heard they actually got styling cues from the Canadian version called the CSX. And just like the EL’s, it was a fancier civic with leather upholstery, and in later upper trim models, came with navigation built in.
So, even if the TSX is an “accord in a tuxedo,” it’s not a bad thing at all, and Honda/Acura has made nicer models on existing platforms and rebadged them with the Acura logo (case in point, the new Integra)
Interesting. Canada seems to have the better Honda’s and Acura’s compared to the states. Might just be because they have one of their plants in Ontario. But yall really do have it good lol
@@Arnold127ColesSo true! For example, our 2022 Civic SI’s has amentitiee that the American SI doesn’t have, such as (stolen from a stranger on Reddit) fog lights, heated wheel, heated front and rear seating, standalone shift lights, turn signal mirrors, colour customizable gauges, dual climate control, wireless charging, and auto dimming mirrors. All for a little cheaper too (ignoring COL).
The EL models were really the Civic SI's moved over to the Acura dealers. We're a small market and Acura needed a smaller volume model to keep the numbers up... this was before they really took off with the MDX/RDX SUVs. The CXS, on the other hand, was something nice... supposedly the 8th gen JDM Civic was based on it. The CXS was the only one that was truly it's own thing... a 2.0l K20 in a 8th gen Civic body, and the Type S version was the Civic Si but in leather.
TSX is hard to beat. God-tier double wishbone front suspension with a 5 arm watts multi-link in the rear. A few well selected modifications really makes these something special. upgrade the front lower arm bushings, get some adjustable front upper control arms to get some camber in there, and a rear sway bar with some good tires and you'll be shocked how neutral they handle. Find the limit and it starts to understeer a hair, but lift off the throttle and it turns in perfectly. lets you drive it right on the edge and just backing off lets you correct the line. basic intake header exhaust ECU really wakes up the powerband. I've had my 6MT TSX since 2012 with now 250K on it and i can't really see a compelling upgrade. Only thing really calling me is a 6MT SHAWD 12-14 TL but then i'm going from 35 MPG highway to low 20s. The TSX also has much better styling but that's subjective. a TSX with JDM euro R lips is a real looker.
Uncle “nobody wants to work anymore” way too relatable 😂
Blessed are the NEETs, for they refuse to be wageslaves. As they lie down, they stand higher than the rest.
Acura logo was meant to be a pair of calipers to signify precision.
Great vid as usual!
Sounds a bit pretentious tbh. After all this is just an Euro/Jp accord, assembled at a Honda plant in Japan. No more or less precision than any other Honda at the same plant would have had.
So if it's just a regular old Honda in the rest of the world, what's the point of the badge?
It's an ugly logo nonetheless.. I don't blame people who rebadge their Acura's as Honda's.
@@Glenni91N Meant to be! This is a luxury Accord.
I miss when Honda actually tried
What? New Gen Civic type R is one of the best modern cars ever made. Only comes in manual... Who else is doing that? Standard Civic SI is under 3K lbs and only comes in manual. Last company to have a coupe, manual with a 3.5 as a variant of their family sedan. They have been doing the Lord's work.
@@Maelstrom8 he he says try, he means with just the normal every day cars. Not a car meant to be something more.
@@Maelstrom8Imagine paying 60k for a Honda that’ll get smoked by an ecoboost 😂
@Stevenhiggles dude the new civics rock and the accord is still just as good as the 2019 generation which is amazing. Hondas been consistent,More consistent than toyota nowadays. My only issue is the prices but that's just the market.
@@angelgjr1999we talking focus st/rs? The ecoboost is in alot of fords
This comparative study of manuals vs automatics was amazing. A philosophical dive into one's preference only to arrive at basically whatever floats your boat in the end. RCR is magnificent. The story telling is unmatched. Only Top Gear in my opinion (With Clarkson, Hammond and May) can hold a candle to RCR. Beautifully executed and it never fails to place a mirror in your own face for self reflection. Bravo gentlemen.
had one of these until a drunk, uninsured, unlicensed driver totaled it while it was parked via his nissan sentra. literal truth.
So sorry for your loss o7
this video genuinely made my year. i have an 06 tsx and have always wondered what a review for it would look like from you guys. thank you so much this is awesome
You know, yeah. We could again use more of these no-frills sedans (and maybe hatchbacks too lol).
CL7/9 is a goated accord with one of the better body and motor designs by honda. Wish its second gen had the same treatment.
"Manuals, Manuals, Manuals Rock" he sang as he entered World 1-1
I'm glad somebody recognized it!
Can’t get it out of my head!
Super Mario 3!😎
@@UmmYeahOk Damnit Roman! That's going to be in there for days...
If this is an add-on badge on the steering wheel REMOVE IT ASAP! It will turn into a deadly projectile in case the airbag deploys!
Nooo put on some bling diamonds :33 3
@@peterfi. Dont be the mom that tells johnny to put on a hat and gloves cuz its "pneumonia whether". Its obviously better to be cool than safe lol... Just kidding... Thats a good tip
@@peterfi. Even if he removes the badge, im pretty sure this car is equipped with a tikata air bag that has the deadly projectiles built in from factory lol...
I imagined it getting shot and I'm honestly surprised how graphic my imagination can simulate such a scenario in seconds. Now im scared of ANYTHING on steering wheels.
Only if you have that old-skool Taka Airbag, LoL….
When it comes to manual transmissions it appeals to a specific type of demographic. The demographic that likes feeling as though they have some additional control over the vehicle. It's similar to the people that value Linux as an operating system compared to Windows. You feel as though you have control over the OS. Sure it takes a little effort to initially learn it and a little more effort to do it well, but as it is in both cases, whether or not it's your favorite pretty much comes down to if you like taking the little frills easy way, or if you take the option that requires a little bit of work, but at the end you feel more connected to it for bothering to take the time in the first place. I happen to like that connection myself, but not everyone will feel the same way.
Yes I have been driving manual daily for 22 years now, all of my cars have been manual, don’t even look at auto… I just like being *engaged*. I drive completely normal, don’t need to pretend like I’m racing or anything. Idk how to explain it, just love it.
I ask this of anyone I hear ragging on their car.
-Does it work?
-Does you like it?
-Does you really care?
That Acura seems like the automotive equivalent of that friend of yours who smokes too much, but will always help you move and will answer the phone at 2:30am. Keep ones like that around, no matter how uncool they may be.
that 6:25 striaght-from-the-front shot gives off such 2nd gen odyssey vibes
I am not a "car girl" by nature, but through the tireless work of my husband and the pure joy I get when listening to a beautifully written, passionate soliloquy such as this, I have grown to care deeply about cars and the culture that surrounds them.
I love language - the power of words, the music of their performance, the emotion of their poetry, and there are few who wield them better than this author. I look forward to every video essay The Roman releases, even if I am not well-versed in the topic, because I know they will be filled with passion, philosophy, humor, and humanity. Thank you for the education.
Also, as someone who learned stick in my high school parking lot in about 30 minutes, manual transmissions forever, baby!
Just sold my 2008 TSX manual with 322k miles on the clock. It ran and looked like it had 70k miles or less. These cars have a subtle something special about them. Awesome to see them getting attention.
It's an accord with an SI K24 in it
So an Accord then. That was just one of the three engine options for the Accord in Europe and the Accord Euro in Australia or Japan. K20, and 24 + a K22 diesel.
This is just a rebadge of the Accord from the above mentioned after all.
@Glenni91N yes the TSX is a rebadged Accord Euro R. The only difference between this and the Accord EX-L is the front and rear end. However the Acura TL is it's own thing.
I owned an 05 Accord EX-L with the J30 V6. That was a hell of a car.
@@brandon.pratt050 it wasn't an R either. It's just a bog standard Euro Accord. Only Japan got the Accord R, really.
For the 9th gen Civic Si they used the same K24 as the TSX with minor revisions
If you get anything from Temu near MY Honda, I'll make sure you become the next owner of an Oldsmobile Bravada >:/
Temu is basically AliExpress but "price from lowest" was the default option.
I have a 05' CL9 with a 6mt. It is a great vehicle and mods really open it up. Great and amazingly reliable.
I've grown up with my TSX as my dad owned it before me. I learned to drive stick on it as well and it's been a rock in my life as it's given my family and I no trouble. It's fun enough getting the performance I can out of it and i quite like the interior and exterior (and especially that sound system). Just a really great car!
this is the only content I find myself coming back to RCR for... keep up the good work Roman
Thank you!
I had an 08 TSX 6MT for years and absolutely loved it. It was fun to drive, affordable, and had all the features I wanted (heated seats and AC.) Only complaint is with the navi you couldn't add bluetooth without spending a small fortune.
yes, the manual is always better than the slushbox. everytime.
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@@Grafyte By now most of those JLS have been recalled and the pressure plate issue has been resolved. At this point, they're way better than the slushbox version of the JL Wrangler. Of course as a stellantis Jeep , a JL Wrangler is going to suck regardless of which transmission it has
Nah, disagree. Sure your fun car had better be a stick, my ‘84 Supra slays. But taking your friends skiing or back home from a concert or just commuting with coffee an auto is nice to have
@@nathanchildress5596 I guess we all have our preferences, but there's no way that I'll ever buy a slush-matic just for coffee runs. That's just goofy. The benefit of an automatic for skiing trips does even more difficult to see. Just drive. It's not that hard to work a clutch. Like oh God how am I going to get these skis and these friends to the slopes and back if I have to shift all by myself?
@@fatrobdouble It's not a preference, I like manual. Driving isn't the problem, it's the other stuff. Maybe you're tired and hungover, maybe your friend is giving directions badly, maybe it's a long trip and you've got a lot of food on your lap. I'll call you a hero if you want me to, but when you aren't driving to have fun then why does it matter?
4:07 *7th generation, not 6th. This body style came out in 2003, same year as the larger 7th generation Accord (I can't say North American Accord because both the larger one and this were sold in Australia, for example).
Correct indeed. Also, the US version of the Accord was sold in Japan as the Honda Inspire
Best of all, Australia called this one the Accord Euro (as distinct from the Accord Cheeseburger)
I have a 2006 TSX Auto-5spd. I feed it 87octane and kept the motor and exhaust stock. I have a wife and newborn child. I love it specifically because IT IS an upscale accord. In 10 years of ownership (bought for $10k in 2016) it has been incredibly reliable. Its needed an AC compressor and new lower control arm bushings, thats it. Fantastic almost 20yr old "luxury" sedan that I use as a family sedan. Think of it as the best Accord money can buy (not including the V6 6mt) and you'll get why this car is phenomenal! Have a great day today and tomorrow!
I put 89 in mine just to be safe.
If I'm gassing up at Costco, I'll put 91 in, it treats it like good eating and runs a little better
I miss pretty engines. You made me remember how much I really enjoy certain Hondas. thx uncle Roman!
I remember watching regular car reviews when I was in middle school and y’all are literally apart of my childhood 😭 It’s 6 in the morning randomly got recommended and it’s bringing back so many nostalgic memories
The K24A2 is THE SWAP K series, if someone’s swapping a K series in it’s almost always the K24 from a TSX (if they’re in the U.S anyway). The K24A2 has proper 3 lobe VTEC unlike pretty much every other K24 series engine (again, from the U.S). These are monsters of an engine, capable of making and holding impressive power.
That red Honda badge on the steering wheel is gonna look real good smashed into the side of your face after a fender bender.
It also never had them in Europe, just standard "silver" plastic. Not even the R did.
The Acura TSX Wagon Sport, and the Acura TSX Type-S A spec are two early 2000 gems.
The sport wagon is really cool. I know somebody that has one. There was never a TSX Type S to my knowledge. Did you mean the TL Type S?
Technically this is a JDM/Euro Accord. The US market Accord was larger (the shot of the back seat is the give away). This was Honda's "sensible man's BMW" and also came in wagon form if you were a REAL euro-wieny. The US market Accord was available in Japan (in limited numbers and a shocking price-point) as the Inspire (which had been one of the US 1st gen TLs JDM names).
Hit the nail on the head. My RSX was absolutely a luxury car with an economy car's soul. And that was both wonderful -- all the Honda goodness -- and sort of dreary.
Dope ride bro. Always wanted this TSX gen.
Me and Dillon bought our TSX's the same year, one of the best cars I've owned. Love the review.
I owned 2 of these first generation TSXs ('04, '06). It was a fantastic car at the time. It was smaller than the American Accord. To me, it was the perfect size for a daily commuter. I had one with the manual and one automatic. Miss this manual car. It was a joy to own and drive. Very reliable, not expensive to own, and I would regularly get over 30mpg on the highway.
This review was incredibly painful to sit through...ugh.
I own the '05 5 speed "manumatic" US version. Honestly, it is an amazing daily driver, minus constantly slurping down 91 octane. I need to do a valve adjustment (thanks Honda) to hopefully fix some idle and fuel consumption issues. Otherwise it is comfy and great!
Theres a lot of good lines in this video about criticism and how we should use it with others and ourselves. Always appreciate some thoughtful commentary that extends beyond the car immediately under review.
"What is judgment but criticism without empathy?"
It's not the car i wanted the whole party is ruined!
It doesn't matter your guest are having fun! I don't care. It's not about them! It's all about meeeee!
acura cake is pretty cool too tho
It's my party, I'll cry if I want to.
I learned to drive a manual on a 2000 Prelude. Ahhh.... the memories. If it hadn't gotten totaled after I got rear ended at a red light, I like to think I'd still be driving it.
He needs to do a leak down and compression test if he's eating cats that fast. It probably wouldn't hurt to have the injectors cleaned as well.
ive had 2 and they were rough, at best 27mpg for the less than tunable 2004 versions and around 200 hp ish BUT this car had the best most ergonomic feel, the shifter was just right, the seat positioned well, an aftermarket stereo with carplay made navigation convenient i loved it
I have a 2020 Acura ILX and love it. This video felt like you were speaking about my car. Loved it!
That ILX is the perfect car. Love my 2022
Did anyone else notice Roman's little song is the map music for World 1 in Super Mario 3?
I had this exact car and still regret selling it. Fun, reliable, comfortable, simple, and about 35mpg on the highway if you drive it right. And that design is still gorgeous. Everyone I gave a ride to complimented the car and were consistently surprised when I told them it was a 2006. These cars have aged very elegantly!
Outside of an intake for some VTEC goodness, they're not really worth modding; it's not a Civic SI or Integra.
Also the repair bill comment at 13:15 is super strange and out of left field. These are known for being INSANELY reliable, and with their Accord roots, are extremely simple and cheap to repair. IIRC only issues to watch out for are a failing starter after 100k miles or so and occasionally an alternator replacement.
Lack of research seems to be a bit of a trend in these Roman videos?
Having owned one of these, I can tell you that the throttle programming is the #1 issue with how they drive. It seems like Honda has never quite nailed it with their drive by wire manual cars, and the inconsistency is a killer. Revs drop inconsistently and throttle response is wonky and nonlinear. That + FWD makes for a really mediocre experience.
I think I’m in the minority of people who are car enthusiasts but prefer automatics. I know how to drive both, but I prefer an auto in something I’m gonna drive everyday, while respecting that we should still keep manuals on the road.
People who look down on autos are just virtue signaling. I love driving stick, I’m often looking for an excuse to do so, but having an automatic beater is such a luxury
Oh I'm definitely into this. I learned my driving on stick (it was a fun VW Beetle too that was most memorable), but I just prefer Automatics. Maybe it's the shitty traffic in my country, maybe it's my now lack of practice, but I've ended up preferring automatics while also having an appreciation for the manual too.
The Acura logo actually is to represent the A AND a pair of precision measuring calipers, hence their original brand marketing motto; precision engineered.
I have a 2010 TSX automatic, probably one of the best cars I’ve ever owned, super reliable and nice to drive, gonna hit 300k today on the drive home.
CL7 Accord is a certified ripper and highly respected within the Honda community, end of story.
It’s been 20 years and Mr. Regular still hasn’t done a TL
09:34
The factory rev limiter on these is not 6000rpm , but 7400 rpm
And it doesn't need to be higher because that's not where the K24 makes its power
I'm the owner of the TSX sportwagon RCR reviewed 2 years ago, and yeah that's the biggest reason I got it. I wanted a dead reliable daily and it's been. I've only done basic maintenance and it passes inspection every year and has never given me an issue
I love the Accord of the same era passing at 8:05 !
Problem with the tsx was the nepo baby owners - it’s a good nuff car that was held on such a pedestal as to be seen as Nero, fiddling while Rome burnt to the ground
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So it’s a 2000’s Honda
Roman, we’re glad you are putting more videos out ❤
Time for a TL TYPE S review
The (USDM) larger Honda Accord was sold as the Honda Inspire in Japan with Hybrid taillights that has amber turning signals
My dad has a manual Accord that I have to "accidentally take for a drive" any time I visit. Quite fun for a practical sedan. I really wanted one of these manual TSX's until I got a Lexus GS.
Been waiting for my tsx to be reviewed. Not disappointed. Thanks boys
Keep it up, Roman, I love RTTB and everything else you do!
Thank you!
I feel like the starter cars to ask for in the 2010~2017 era that had an actual chance of maybe happening for 80%+ of guys were either a similar car to this (or a Tc, Celica, esque coupe) or “4wd truck but it will probably be 2wd”
The european accord. It looks futuristic without being ugly like modern cars. Same goes for the tl. I still can't believe acura got away with producing these cars at that time. Most early 2000s cars were dreary.
Not exactly European. It’s the genuine Japanese Accord, just happened to be sold in Europe along side. The US Accord is a rebadged Honda Inspire.
Wow. This is thoughtful, and time well-spent. Thank you
Roman doesn't care about manuals... Never watching race to the bottom again!!!! Just kidding, great video
Glad to have you here!
@@LimitedTimeRoman at some point i will submit my 06 TL 6MT.... Once I fix the power seat
I own a 2004 Accord Euro (That's what there are called down here in Australia). This has the 2.4l K24A2. The ride and handling is so sublime, I have driven much recent cars that don't handle as well. Gem of a car!
consistent bad cats is probably due to the tune and the car is running too rich.
I taught myself to drive a manual with a 1995 Mazda 323 (yes, there was a '95 in Canada). The dealer drove me home, and I figured out how to drove it over the next 2-3 days. That car was a lot of fun to drive compared to the '86 Chevette I had before that. The stick shift just gave it a feeling of control. 82 horses meant that I could maintain speed on most steep highway hills too, and sometimes even pass. Now I drive a Prius Prime because I am old and value mileage above all else.
An overlooked point in auto v manual: Clutches are cheaper and more DIYable than transmission rebuilds. Complexity adds cost. Many of us are both enthusiasts and lifelong plebs who drive manual out of both fun AND necessity. We have no issue in bumper to bumper, stop and go traffic :)
That's what I always say too. A manual transmission will pretty much always work as good as new when the wear parts are replaced by a competent mechanic whereas getting an automatic overhauled is ALWAYS going to be a crapshoot and in my personal experience, I've seen too many snake eyes to be confident in even the best mechanic.
@@Snicker60515 100%. It might be a bad example but our Chevy 20 series van went through two rebuilds and 3 transmissions total. Each one was thousands. I've also known a lot of people with rebuilds that didn't fail outright but were never quite right. That's not even to mention costly dual clutches and disposable CVTs.
"Necessity" lol you are over-blowing it.
This car is great. I have 2005 Acura RSX Type S that I’ve had so long that it’s got 322k on the Odometer and is now my second car that I use to do merchandising for Coke. I still wish I had bought one of these instead. It’s also, a very real K series with real VTEC on both cams. That K24 is actually popular swap for my car.
I had this in France, love it!
Great review of the car and human psychology as always Nick. I agree, a good, honest sedan that'll do the job reliability. I remember these at 19 and I thought they were interesting. I like that the owner replaced the "Acura" badge (which I always thought looked like a compass) with the "Honda" badge.
Manuals are absolutely better for cars meant to be fun. Summer cars, sports cars, sport sedans (small) all are better than automatics. Manuals are better for driver engagement and enjoyment, always.
Reagrding manual vs automatic. Most manuals are okay, and some are great. When it comes to older automatics there are horrible boxes and wonderful boxes. The span are wider. This TSX/Euro Accord has a quite nice five speed slushbox when beeing automatic. However, with that box it drinks enormous amounts of fuel in city, but no more than a manual on the highway. (My personal low record when driving this car with a 155hp 2.0 engine (K20A6) and AT for short drives during cold winter a whole tank where I got 13.8mpg (US). On highway 34mpg were not difficult to reach.)
this guy's voice. I just can't.
Agreed. Awful at best.
Best car I ever owned ..
God damn it I was just looking at these hoping people forgot about them, and lo and behold here comes RCR with the review.
As somebody who got a 02 accord coupe because I never found an IS300 in decent shape price, I can understand his choice. As someone with crappy ankles automatics are reassuring that they will work one footed. Standards are fun but real stop and stop and stop then go a bit then stop traffic makes them a fun weekend toy not a great in town commuter. Doubled down on the original purchase price (subframe swap, ac redo) 3 years later for repairs still waiting for the used market to reflect the actual depreciated value of cards .
Mine pulls. I think you didn't floor it enough. 3rd cat means it's probably running rich or burning oil.
Please do an RL. Shit, do my RL. Has 300k miles and runs like a honda should at those miles. Right through oil
i've taken away quite few life lessons from this car show. youse twose is sum eloquent sumbeacjes.
muscle cars are ok, we can like multiple types of cars
Also an automatic car is a fast car; a manual car is a fun car.
The cats are roasting because there's something wrong with his tune
That's not normal, he should take the hint lol
Had one. Good but had to finally get rid of it when the power steering pump and then the rack and pinion both failed within a year of each other. Still got about 170k miles from it though.
Same. Really sad when it happened
Only 170? My 97 Town Car has 170k on it and it's still running great. And Hondas are widely considered really good?
How odd. Same problem but both went at once., AC was dead, fuel gauge didnt work and simply replacing the sending unit didnt fix it. So i used it as a trade in. I had it for about 12 years.
@@DarkElfDiva Yeah it surprised me too. I think replacing the pump with a new one had some sort of negative effect on the original rack and pinion so it failed too. That was just too many costly repairs in that period of time for me.
My friend Ed did a great sell on his dad. His first car was a beat '68 Charger R/T. Needless to say his dad was not pleased. His dad said why doesn't he get something dependable like a Nova and he'll loan him the money (this was back in 1978/79). So another friend and I found a Nova for sale that his dad agreed to float a loan for. It was a 1969 Nova SS. Sweet car!
15:50 philosophy at its finest.
Thanks for helping me find those words man.
Please do the 2006 Acura TL
If the owner is right and it's close to needing another new cat, that could definitely contribute to that lack of power or feeling like something is hanging on to the back bumper.
This is way more philosophical than journalism
I love the TSX! It’s going to be my next daily driver