Myths About Street Violence
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- There are many falsehoods propagated through films and stories which we come to accept as truths. Sometimes this is harmless. When the subject is violence, these myths can end up having dire consequences. I discuss a few common misconceptions about street violence and compare it with real situations I saw or took part in during 23 years of security work. Hopefully this video will help some viewers avoid unpleasant outcomes..
The biggest problem with the UK legal system is that many prosecutors and judges are upper class toffs who've no idea how violence works in reality. You can easily end up in prison for something that was entirely reasonable because someone with only a Hollywood understanding of violence thought your actions were "unfair"
I know a girl who ended up prosecuted, she was the victim. She hit her much bigger (female) attacker with a glass bottle after already taking a serious beating and being knocked to the ground. Unfortunately her attacker suffered a fairly bad injury from the bottle and it was deemed unreasonable force because the (bigger,stronger) attacker wasn't armed herself. Absolutely ridiculous.
Self defense is not given the proper legal protections in much of the West. The red states in the U.S. are good about it, but Canada, most of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and the blue states of America all have lousy standards for what they consider legitimate self defense.
in school, i remember this kid getting bullied by all the evil kids. Even his 'friend' ended up bullying him. One time in a geography class the kid got up slowly and calmly walked towards the front of the class and then suddenly smashed his 'friend' right in the face with a sucker punch, completely uninpeeded. All this in front of the quiet classroom. He could not get bullied much more so fuck it. Im not sure he even got in trouble for it from teachers. The whole system was a failure at keeping kids safe.
The best lesson in life a child can learn in school is that 'Authority' (Teachers, Police, Governments) are not going to provide a 'safe space'.
From ten years old I fought my way through school often. Bullies are everywhere and 'Grown ups' are not going to protect you.
Look at society now. Do you think the Police protect you? The Courts are fair and there is justice?
Children must learn to protect themselves and, if possible, the weak who can't.
No one is coming to help you.
I met my best friend, by saving him from bullies. I ended up being friends with the bullies as well (after I beat them up).
I was a nerd, but I grew up in a tough neighborhood. I had been in several fights and jumped twice by the time I was in middle school.
I never considered myself a tough guy, but I hated bullies.
I was taken to the principal's office a few times for fighting.
The principal always told the other guy, "if you got Charlie mad enough to hit you, then you probably deserved it" 😅
Mr. Morrison was good guy.
I woke up in hospital after a night out. I was attacked by 8 guys, bottled first from behind then stomped out. Both eyes closed, trainer marks all over me, face like a balloon, several stitches. There was so much blood the paramedics thought I was stabbed at first. I still cannot remember it but I stopped drinking then and there. Now I'm like security for the rest of the lads lol. Messed my head up for a good while One love from Glasgow. 💙
I hope alls good for you now pal ❤
@plumduff3303 Cheers my friend. All good now. Not fun though, I had to go to a Scottish Cup Final looking like an abused man! 😊😬💙
When it comes to fighting on the street, "Win if you can, lose if you must but, ALWAYS cheat!" & If you know the turd you're beefing with is going to attack you, ABSOLUTELY throw the first punch. Not only does it cause the first damage but, it can give your attacker a mental disadvantage because he thought he was targeting a weak Bych but, got poped in the mouth before he could find his balls & launch his intended attack.
As a paramedic I've dealt with the horrific and sometimes deadly aftermath of violence on many occasions, but in my personal life I've found it remarkably easy to not get in fights with people. Even though I'm a 48 year old punk rock fan who has been in hundreds of mosh pits at hundreds of punk shows, there's only been 1 time that I smacked a guy who needed to be brought into line and 1 other time I stepped between 2 guys who were fighting, but other than that if you're paying attention to your surroundings, it's not hard to avoid trouble. (My broken noses were the result of standard mosh pit fun, not violence!) The real problems usually start when dudes mix the false bravado of alcohol with the fragile ego of low self esteem.
Which is all discussed at length in the previous videos in this series. Rule 1 - avoid.
@@thatgearguy Absolutely! I appreciate that you keep hammering that point and give practical advice for how to do it, because it's the most important one.
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Tbh it's more people are super hypocritical imo. Prosecution is a gamble as well, a guy not far from me got a £400 fine for pulling a dude out of a car and assaulting a guy but no "actual" repercussions legally. It's fucked.
The gypsy con "we are taking up a collection so we can bury my young child who just died" made the rounds in big cities in the USA a few years back. These are organized shakedowns with up to 60 people on intersections across an area of a city. I have no problems buying a cup of iced coffee for someone on a hot day or flipping a few Dollars to someone in need on an "one time only" basis. I live in a small town (18,000 people) so it's relatively easy to spot the people in need from the "professional" beggars. All of the points in your video were spot on. Thanks. Cheers!
In the UK it's usually, "We need money for baby-milk". I'm sure you've heard that one before too.
@@pauliesk.7102 Yep. Also, "We ran out of gas for the car and need $5 to get the baby home." if you pull into a filling station after dark. the scams are endless.....
In Dublin is " I need 13 quid for a hostel"
All your life advice ( and views ) output is essential for those that that haven’t had life experience yet and bolsterers up those of us that have had a bit . You’re a public service.
It all fits in well with gear reviews too . 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@Robertarcher2035 Thank you and glad you like the content!
When I went to Rome, many scammers approached me.
They even tried speaking to me in different languages.
I just played dumb and ignored them.
I am a polite person, but I don't owe my politeness to random people who engage with me in public.
"Never hit a man when he's down ........... because he might get up" Sir Harry Flashman.
Great film pal...ive faced bullies both individuals and groups ...be prepared and run if you can. Peace and love to all ❤
Thanks and agree!
Battle of Maldon 991AD. The Saxons had the Vikings at a disadvantage on the other end of a causeway. The Vikings asked the Saxons to do the ' decent thing' and allow them across to fight 'fairly'.
The Saxons let them across.
Guess who lost!
The Vikings had a rep for being fair players. 😅
@@thatgearguy The 'Nice Guys' of the Dark Ages.
Great advice as usual. You asked us about myths we've heard.
One of many I've heard is that drunk people are easier to fight back against. Sure, if they're completely legless, but if someone is just plain drunk it doesn't mean they're harmless. They just feel less pain and are more volatile.
Another is a topic of one of your recent videos. Women and violence. When I worked in a club in the Medway towns 20 years back the women were just, if not more, as brutal as the men. What they lacked in strength they made up for in objects to hand. Bottles, high heels, glass ash trays (before the smoking ban) etc. Brutal.
Here's a topic idea unless I've missed it. Can you give us advice on home security? What would you advise to prevent and deter would be burglars.
Thanks. 👍
Good t6 see these enduring tropes challenged. I grew up in the 60's having heard most of them, and had realised they were rubbish before I was out of Junior School. Thankfully, not many kids get badly hurt in the playground, or they didn't then.
I once got attacked by 4 lads coming out a railway station attacked for no reason..out the blue..lost a tooth in that one...came from nowhere i was carrying a rucksack grabbed from behind.. got mistaken for a soldier...trust no one
There's no rules in a street fight. Avoid street fights . But if you have to fight show no mercy no rules. I train muaythai
Oohhh another one! I love all your tips and practical help, you remind me of someone I once read years back who helped me from getting robbed on several occasions. The one time I got robbed it was because I didnt pay heed to his advice.
Sometimes you get that rare group of bullies in which they can all fight 😅 & then youre majorly screwed
Have good situational awareness, trust your gut, and get away from any situation that feels wrong. This served me well working in New York City and the nightlife there for decades. Don't engage people who come up to you. No cigarette, no you can't have the time, or "spare change" or use my phone. Emergency? I'll call 911 for you. Yeah, I didn't think so.
Remember. A wallet or watch can be replaced. You can’t.
Hi, im loving your videos, always a great watch. Could you do one on the workout program that you followed to achieve your heaviest lifts?
Great suggestion!
Another excellent video. One issue that always still amazes me in fights is when one clown thinks it’s wise to get right up and be virtually nose to nose to his opponent as a show of aggression that they hope will intimidate the other person - that’s a wonderful way to cop either a head butt, uppercut or right hook and end up knocked out and it’s game over - I’ve always trained to keep distance and given I’m 6’3” I always used front or side kicks to keep people back - especially since I have no idea if they’re possibly carrying a blade. Situational awareness is so key to keeping yourself safe and so many people either aren’t intuitive to such things or they get quite drunk and thus lose that awareness of what’s happening near them - an especially dangerous scenario for women who can then fall victim to male sexual predators.
In America unfortunately, pre-emptively attacking a stalker didn’t go well for Trayvon Martin.
Not really compareable. There is always a slim chance a lunatic will shoot you anywhere in the world. It is highly unusual hence the huge press coverage. If I am in a country where folk are carrying then I would be to. Dont bring a fist to a gunfight..
@@thatgearguy true
You often refer to the military using unfair tactics: that's where I was taught the difference between "hurting" and "maiming"...
I witnessed this aggressive drunk guy attack a guy walking home for no reason (had been thrown out of a venue) and he got ko'd by the guy he started on. Then his two mates ran over and pretended to play peace makers like they were apologising for their aggressive mate. As soon as the guy was up again all three of them battered this guy. I guess the two other guys wouldn't do anything without their main guy? But I remember thinking at the time if only the attacked guy followed up while he had the upper hand!
It would be really interesting to see the collective training & experience of the commenters here, as it seems like most people mention or imply they are relatively savvy about this stuff. I am sure this video will reach some entirely novice people, but it’s strange just how many folks gravitate to this content which already seem to be ahead of most.
There will be some with training and experience and others who believe watching action films is training and experience.
I'm a retired cop saw more than enough violence to last my lifetime but I really enjoy these films.
Love the content on this channel mate! Some really useful insights into how to both avoid and deal with conflict. Something which I think most people are uncomfortable with. Can't tell you the amount of times I've had people getting into trouble and then leaving me to sort it out as I'm a big guy! Even though the same thing wouldn't be done for me if the roles were reversed. Thankfully I've learned to pre-empt a situation breaking out and can usually avoid it from happening. Usually I find that people will only try it on with you if the odds are in their favour and usually it's a few 'brave guys ' with 5 or 6 of their mates. I always aim to avoid conflict were possible but sometimes the situation just won't allow it. Picked up some very useful tips from yourself! Hope to see more content from this channel in the future 🙏🙏
I would recommend the managing violence podcast series with Joe Saunders and his latest guest Matt Thornton, talking about his book, the gift of violence
Even that Japanese honour-based system is a romanticised misrepresentation of history. Medieval knights, Samurai, Anglo-Saxons/Vikings, Greek hoplites, etc were governed somewhat by "rules" based on contemporary morality but it's been blown out of proportion and mythologised over time to paint a prettier picture for modern onlookers.
As always lad , looking forward to another one of your TH-cam uploads ! Keep up the good work 👏 love from new Zealand 🇳🇿
Much appreciated!
Wise words all the best.
This guy deserves WAY more views and likes than he actually gets. His experiences are gold!
@@orgrimdoomhammer659 Thanks!!
No wonder we're in such a mess in this country if as you say people still believe this nonsense. Not sure when I heard this joke but it was a long time ago and Ive believed it ever since 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you but do it first'
Mate 😂 get f away from me 😂 always solid advice. I always keep at arms distance to avoid cheap shots where possible
Absolutely!
Love your vids man. If you ever have any free time, pick up Tank Abbots book "Bar Brawler", just some good ol fashion stories of his bar & streets fights leaving bullies in pools of their own blood. Tank at times was a bully himself but it's a great read, great part about getting older is you pick and chose your battles wisely. And yes, violence and mma are too different things (crazy how people think mma is fighting, in the street it's anything but that..)
Loving your videos, thanks for sharing all your wisdom
The notion that "Good prevails over evil" just doesn't work on the Individual level but on a group level it makes a group strong enough to overpower it's enemies in the long run.
As individuals being Good isn't synonymous with Combat Competence.
Not so sure about that. Look at Afghan. Nobody conquered evil there and plenty had a good go..
Another excellent video your point about bullies congregating in groups around one dominant person who is always front of house in any confrontation is spot on.
Wise words!
The last bit on politeness and charities really hits home with me, unfortunately the charity muggers appearing on my doorstep are becoming increasingly sneaky. Why is there not a law against this?
@@matthewweinle8639 There should be. Imagine how many vulnerable people are conned into donating. And the charities claim to be helping vulnerable people.. Perverse!!
Opening gambit: ask them how much their chief executive earns.
were loving these videos man super informative
Glad to hear it!
Aussie, same age as you. Bounced in clubs in QLD and VIC for 20+ years. Seen quite a few things. What you say about violence is mostly pretty much spot on IMO. Met all the same characters, and all the same stories pretty much. We don't have Gypsies in Oz, but we do have other 'groups' that can do a lot of damage. Id say on average people here are a bit fitter, and a bit tougher in general. Just the outdoors lifestyle though. Not much knife play, just fists, pool cues and chairs.
Yes good advice I've run into many a bully is when I was younger
thinking back I could have avoided them.
Never had any problem with them when their pals weren't there.
In general I totally agree. But there is a problem with the first punch, at least here in Switzerland. Personally was jugded 2 times and now beeing faced with suspended sentence, though it was clear, I didn't start the aggression. Should have ran like a rabbit. But this is a thing, that I'm not willing to do. As another commentator said: Judges are upper class and have mostly no idea, what goes on outside their bubble.
There is a lot more to the law here than whether you do or do not make a pre-emptive strike. It still has to be legal. If you want to protect yourself the first thing to do is to learn the laws in your own country. Then you can step up to that line but not over it. Attempting self defence without fully understanding the rules of the game is destined to failure. It has little to do with the judges financial or societal position. You also need a good solicitor. Without that you are not going to do so well
@@thatgearguy So right. But to have all the laws in mind in the heat of the moment would just freeze me. Not scooled about this like a doorman might be. With the solicitor...well I might find another. But as we said in the north of Germany, where I originally come from "on the high seas and in court you're in the hands of god".
Switzerland? Wouldn't have thought violence was so prolific there as here in the UK. I say that as a Brit of (French) Swiss descent. Here is just scary.
Talking of sneaky military tricks. During the War Of The Roses there was a battle in England between two armies. Both armies had longbowmen. Both armies knew the longbow had a max range of about 200 yards. One army lined themselves up with the wind behind them. The opposing army fired their longbow. But because of the wind they were facing the arrows fell short. The other army then picked up those arrows and fired them back at their opponent. I forget the rest of the details.
Excellent advice! Allot of what you said in that one not only rings bells but, it's my own personal experience! I grew up in East London back in the 80's so yeah, I know the deal of how rough things can get! I then moved to South London in the 90's I still live there even to this very day and it too is rough where violence is concerned more predominantly with guns and gang crime. I get news reports from the Net mostly everyday from across the City of London. Stabbings are prolific. Gun crime spontaneous and unpredictable. All this with the oversight of Law and Order. Times have changed since the end of the last Great War in this Country. This multicultural Cosmopolitan that We all now live in could turn into a complete Hell Hole if something really bad should happen and suddenly everyone was left in the dark due to the power being cut off for a protracted period of time due to the event of War, CME Event/s Sabotage by Foreign Enemy Actors i.e. Russia EMP disruption etc. etc. Situations and scenarios that We all in these forever increasing uncertain times should be considering. Sometimes, it keeps me up at night, especially with the recent events currently transpiring in the Middle East right now! It is possible that these happenings could not only escalate to a wider, more regional conflict, but, could even spark a more serious, Global one. Putin is also a concern, it seems that he is intent on attacking the UK at some point in the mere future. Just two weeks ago he sent ships through the English Channel accompanied with bombers in response to Blinken and Lamys visit to Ukraine. it went grossly unprepared by our News Network at the time but, I get regular bulletins from the Net all the time and is very appraised. The British Government are currently very concerned of the potential of an attack with the use of hypersonic missiles from Russia. It is believed that one of the Russians primary targets would be Our power generation infrastructure. If that happens, it won't be governments and our world leaders I personally will be worried about, it will be our own General Public! With no power for a protracted time or even indefinitely. Cities such as London would tear itself apart. Food Riots would ensue and when the food finally ran out, that civilized Cosmopolitan Folk out there will eat each other. I do sincerely hope that this message reaches you without interference from that dammed machine and it's algerythim. --- (Very Scary.) End.
Without a firearm, you can only hide if society goes down the tubes. A sharp edge weapon requires close contact, and if your assailants are that close, you will need pure luck to survive.
@@CharlesRyan-f3j Yes! I know all of this! That's why I'm in possession of so many weapons! Am skilled in martial arts and have had combat training. I am also a very skilled archer and marksman. I also possess vast knowledge on tactics, explosives, chemistry, bushcraft and survivalist skills! The Police are fully aware of these facts and they really, really don't like it! My fear, is that in a minute We will need all the weapons we can get our hands on and the government are currently in the process of disarming the population turning everyone everywhere into Slaves! If one half of the population are allowed weapons and the other half are prohibited, then those individuals are and become subject to the other. Just another posh way of saying the word Slave the same difference between a Pirate and a Privateer it's all the same thing. I think, that the people of the UK are being set up! Set up for a big fall in the not too distant future! End.
@@PaulRaymond-fd4hx Yes, you are correct.
"Have you got the time?" Had that once in an alley way. Immediately replied "If you've got the money" whilst putting my hand in my coat pocket. Kid ran off luckily, he was up to no good trying to rob me. Dont try this in a ruff area just leg it 😂😂😂
Thank you
My favourite channel on TH-cam, even though I have negative experiences with doormen u seem solid and fair
I also had negative experiences with doormen! Thanks for watching.
Bald and Bankrupt's probably the best for fun videos.
"Pretending to be Gay to get in the Sleepover",
on *AGC ANDY*'s channel, which I've just found.
Great video Paul, thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Glad you enjoyed it!
And snipes in ww2 were considered "dirty" and often disliked by their own troops.
Don't smoke, walk away and if you're small... Well, you're the problem if you're drinking. Large men are NOT the problem. We can handle our shit.
Confusing!
When I was about thirteen, this coach of ours said "Has he been listening to his mother!", and this is what he was talking about.
Great comment about the charities. My initial impression of you was that you're OK. That tipped me into a much higher degree of assuredness of this.
A lot of the people doing outwardly similar videos aren't legit. They're bullshitting liars. There seems to be a kind of magnetic attraction to bullshitter bully people by weak males and to a lesser extent females, but I've never liked it. Anyone who thinks that in a normal life (not in some kind of captivity) that it's good for people to be scared of you. Anyone who enjoys being scared of you's not going to be good for you. If it's a woman she's a scumbag and if it's a man, then they're on some kind of homoerotic kick.
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Hi, toyr videos are always very interesting. I haven't seen al of them. But have you already addressed the group behaviour? Your friend seems to let you down if you lose a fight, and the opposite, they tend to give cheap shots at your opponents if you win, or join an already won fight. The fact rhat your friends will defend you, no matter the cost, is a well established myth in my opinion.
Agree. When younger I was beaten badly by a much older guy. 8 of my friends stood and watched, frozen by fear.
Thanks for the regular uploads, it always make my day to hear some stories and life lessons from you. Still waiting for travel stories about Poland, I think it's quite unique place nowadays, it was destroyed by wars and communists and during last 30 years it became a great place to live. Cheers!
Thanks.. Its coming soon!
“Trained fighters or real tough guys don’t cause trouble as they have nothing to prove” is another myth. Plenty of people who start fights are very skilled fighters which gives them the confidence to start a fight.
For sure. I have seen plenty of pro fighters get drunk and go crazy!
Well said, well done
Over the last 4 years, it's been a constant battle with overzealous supermarket security.
Yeaa
In the 90's I walked out of a nightclub in Boscombe at closing time. I'm not joking, there were six fights going on all at the same time on the street outside the club. They all involved several people and reminded me of the rucks when I played rugby. Two of them were between women. No police in sight even though there were plenty of street cameras. The bouncers just watched on. It was all taking place on the street so not their problem. Sort of thing you'd video and post on social media these days.
Halcyon days!
Yep, myths like “the bigger they are, the harder they fall”. Substitute “fall” with “hit”…
That is a good one. I rarely saw bigger guys losing to much smaller opponents unless there was a significant skill/experience gap.
Zzzz
Try TikTok. Better for short attention spans.
The Japanese beat the Mongols though
They did but they had to adjust their strategy to do so.
Not sure how i ended up on your channel but very glad i did!
Thanks! I guess I can thank youtube for recommending me!
@thatgearguy your subject matter isnt generally what I would search for but you're a great speaker and i find your content very interesting
@@nklin6 That is really great to hear. Thank you, I appreciate you taking time to listen.
Great video dude.. I agree with you especially on homeless types who approach me in Brighton. I immediately tell them where to go with confidence.. Would be great to hear some tips from you on weightlifting. I’m currently bench pressing 36kg dumbbells and want to up the weight but also don’t wanna injure myself! Maybe you can talk about heavy vs light weights etc? Training tips and routines 👍
18:40 Right on brother, nip it in the bud!