Jon Ronson On... Voices in the Head
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2012
- Series 6 Episode 1. Aired 26th April 2011 on BBC Radio 4.
From Jon's website:
"Each week in a series of interviews, short location reports, scripted monologues, phone calls etc, Jon Ronson delves into a world of personal stories surrounding the central theme which all shed light on the human condition. Sometimes Jon goes in search of answers and stories himself, sometimes his team of contributors do it for him. The end result is an original, fascinating, funny, poignant and often philosophical journey through the human experience. The programme also sounds like nothing else before. It is populated by an eclectic mix of music tracks used creatively to enhance the speech and give a particularly late night feel to it - a kind of living nightmare in the chill out room feel."
www.jonronson.com/ronsonon.html
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True. I remember hearing about the ''Bloody Sunday'' enquiry. A protester had his eyebrow shot off. 20 odd people claimed THEY were the one who picked it up and put it inb a matchbox (presumably for Catholic burial if the guy was dead ?).But there's a lot of detail in this story, and it wasn't just the girl who was convinced, but the doctor who said to his mate,''Do the scan, as a favour to me.''
Eleanor describes what happened to me before a cataclysmic breakdown, leading to a diagnosis of CPTSD.
Well thanks for that.
Just been listening to Alien Sex Fiend, 'Voices in my Head.' Like you all needed to know that !
This is interesting because I don't have 'voices' but just one continuous incredibly loud internal monologue, kind of like Eleanor at the beginning - it's in the third person and sometimes in the past tense as if my life is a novel. Had it for years and years. If I'm busy, it goes away but it's nearly always there. It doesn't talk to me directly, just declarative statements and description. The only time I get annoyed is when it's more eloquent than me - as a writer, I find that frustrating.
Its interesting though...in the case of the Swiss woman...if there are these 'voices' in the air...why don't we hear of them helping or advising more people? Why would they ignore some and not others? I don't know so much about 'supernatural' advice...but sometimes I think could be some kind of inter dimensional 'frequency' out there, that some can hear and some cannot. Maybe the voices are trying to help, but can't be heard. Maybe some of the voices are trying to destroy...and sometimes can and sometimes can' be heard...
And how do you know what you remember is actually correct? I remember being licked on the face by my uncle's dog after he ran jumped out of his white sedan; in reality, he bought the sedan after his dog died. Yet I remember it vividly; our memories are fickle things, and can imagine things which were never real.
I agree. It's not possible for a crazy person to diagnose their own illness like that.
Its only a vid I linked - and I said that's why rationalists want personal testimony from at least several sources to consider it valid. For the psychiatrist, he could have been humoring his patient - I consider this event rather strange and peculiar (very much so!) but since there is no clue as to where the information came into her consciousness I would refrain from speculating on it.
testimonies are accepted as evidence for different things by rationalists if they are by several persons who do not know each other.
So Dr Azoneyeh (the psychiatrist) has made a mistake ? Maybe, maybe not. I watched your vid.
If voices in your head are just chatting away and not bothering you why worry? We’re all different and the human imagination is pretty amazing.
The story from 21:30 onwards is interesting. Of couse , those pesky 'rationalists' say we can't accept 'testimonies' as evidence of the paranormal. Bumpkiss to the rationalists , I say !
Rationalists baffle me.Why ''several'' people. If a person had a dream of a stranger who years later became the person's spiritual teacher, is that evidence ? I guess the quibble would be,''But the dream was years ago, are you now SURE it really was that person, now that the dream memory has faded ?'' which is like a question about qualia almost.Does the person KNOW he/she recognizes the teacher from the dream ?
Scott Fraser: The problem with eyewitness testimony
Watch this video - the reasons the presenter gives is why rationalists discount personal testimony.
Er, okaaayyyy...
they are not voices in your head. just thoughts. real voices sound like they're coming from another room. i know.