I think these parents top priority should have been INTENSE THERAPY (as the school told the parents so that very day) and to have been seeing a psychiatrist!
@@Rhiannon011 So agree. Instead mom is lol...ing a son who is already on the precipice of danger and murder? Maybe he ran the house and there's a role reversal of sorts with his parents and they don't say no to his requests. How did the school allow them the privilege of leaving their son there after such a serious meeting, when for all intents and purposes, this was a code red alarm flashing? Shouldn't they have been asked to take him home and stipulate that he's not to return unless he's evaluated by a psychiatrist? Did they send out letters warning other parents about a possible threat so that they too could have made an informed decision if they prefer to have their children attend classes remotely? Very sad. 🙏🙏🙏
@@Shel1021 No this is not Detroit. This is a lily white outer suburb. It's a whole different world. These are people who never get closer to the city than the malls, just outside the city limits. Michigan is a purple state. Pay attention to which part you are seeing.
I wish I could agree with your statement Ian but, truth is, Michigan is just one state. It has a Democratic governor and I’m sure some people who live there actually support what the state prosecutor is trying to do. However, I happen to live in a very red district in Michigan and I know there will be many other people, including the right-wing Republican who represents my district who will, more than likely, fight back against what they feel to be a violation of the killer’s and the killer’s parent’s constitutional rights. I’m not convinced the parents will ever be held accountable for the murders and I’m also not convinced their son will either. This case certainly won’t set a precedent for gun owners anywhere. If anything, it will show gun owners and gun users that they can do whatever they please with said gun and there will be no accountability for their actions whatsoever. That, unfortunately, is the way it is in Michigan and every other state in this country.
This is as it should have always been. For those under 18 the parents have a responsibility to develop their child in a proper way or claim that their child is out of their control to authorities. Yes, that is a difficult call, but that is what it is to be a parent. This is not limited to guns, as a car may be used in the same fashion...know your child and act accordingly, or be culpable.
Actually the school system and his parents failed this kid. If there were issues at school did the school address these issues with the parents. Did the parents attempt to address these issues with their son, I don't mean that buying a high power pistol for Christmas. That to me can be interpreted as a possible denial on the parents part, they're saying nothing wrong with my kid. Maybe it's time to take from the defund police issue. If the school officials concluded that this young man had mental issues, was there a mental health professional available to evaluate him. I'm not talking a gym teacher doubling as a student counselor, I am saying an actual mental health specialist. We will not see this tomorrow. School districts may have to divert funds to hire qualified licensed mental health specialist to assist in evaluating potential difficult students and coordinate with parents and schools officials of possible problems. Its a slim chance this catastrophe could have been averted. And it may be the norm in the near future that schools will be installing metal detectors and back pack and locker checks on a regular basis. These disasters are becoming a norm. At what cost to every parent will it take to stand up and say enough is enough. I am not saying ban all guns, learn from the present to secure the future safety of our children and all people. This is not a political issue it's a life and death situation.
Make gun owners post an insurance bond of half million/ gun/ year before they can register & own them. Then the premiums alone should cut down the number of guns circulating among the civilians!!
@THE TURD REICH SLOPPY JOE & DA HO ! The deadliest school shooting in American history happened during the former President's administration. I am NO fan of Pres. Biden, but pretending Pres. Trump is flawless does nothing to help us through this mess. He was WORSE!!!
She may have made a mistake, the lawyers representing the shooter and his parents is going to go to the judge and rightfully claim she she tried the case in the court of public opion and the defendents can't get a fair trial.🙁
Thing is, they were keeping track. They knew he had it. They simply didn't care until the time came for them to face responsibility. Then they bailed on their own child, who they enabled, leaving him holding the bag.
@@legslipsandlashes9831 so right, this whole thing with the parents was staged, mommies crazy text to daddy reporting the gun missing. Such courage these two showed.
@@louisecollard2320 Do you think that they left him at school thinking that his bag would be searched and that he would be arrested and then maybe get the mental health care he so badly needed? Maybe they thought that he would never use the gun and would get caught ?
@@outlawJosieFox oh yes they did leave him and tried to skip town. Would've told the law they left him at home after seeing the principal. They state he returned to the school after they left. Oh yeah those two geniuses really had it worked out.
For some people, a gun is more precious to them than life itself. Ethan's parents: "Let's buy our 15 year old son something that was created to do one thing only....to ki//. What's the worst that could happen."
The Michigan law needs to change. If Michigan does not have gun storage laws then people cannot be charged for improper gun storage. I don’t own a gun. But I realize the limitations state laws place on prosecution.
@@marybeth1644 I didn't know that. That's the height of recklessness and Irresponsibility. I'm a Marine veteran and a gun owner, even I know that gun violence in this country is an epidemic.
From what we know of the parents, they, especially the mother, are not mature enough, intelligent enough to OWN A GUN. The son is just acting out what he has been raised to do. You have a problem, settle it with your gun that your country allow you to have to solve your problems. Polititians will understand when these shootings directly affect their own family. It is hard to see who callously polititians treat the fellow Americans.
Steve Scalise, a Republican in the House of Representatives, was shot and almost died during a congressional baseball game!! He didn't change his mind about guns. Money coming in from gun lobbyists is more important than life.
And yet Gage Grossbicep hasn’t been charged with having an expired conceal license nor with pointing a gun at Rittenhouse. The woke crowd hard at work in this country, pursuing anyone who appears to be anything but liberal. Hope they charge the owner of the car used to mow down parade watchers.
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 who is the felon? If it’s the driver of the car that mowed down all of the people, then that’s not what this is about. Just like this kid who shot his classmates, the driver can and will be prosecuted. I’m talking about the owner of the car he used. Also, why hasn’t Gage Grossbicep been charged with a crime? And why were his two DUI charges dropped?
@@Kingfisher1215 I see you have internet access, use it instead of whining here. The answer to your questions can be found by searching for the relevant laws which may differ by state &/or if federal law is applicable also. There are statues & precedent that you may look to for clarification as to what is required to warrant criminal indictment. You should also have the ability to look up court proceedings regarding why charges are filed &/or dropped & why. This may include redaction according to the courts decision. You can begin by looking up Rittenhouse's friend who is also being charged as follows; Dominick Black, 20, of Kenosha, was charged last fall with two counts of providing a firearm to a minor, resulting in death. He bought an AR-15-style rifle for Rittenhouse in May 2020, when Rittenhouse was too young to legally purchase a gun. Do you recognize the parallel... When people were killed if the shooter shouldn't have had the weapon whomever provided it is responsible. This has nothing to do with political affiliation it it's according to the laws if the USA.
She's right these parents need to be held accountable. They did the kid was dangerous and they knew he had to accessibility that the gun. The gun with no lock in the trigger!
What about the Kenosha prosecutor who has yet to file charges on a man who pointed a loaded gun at a minor? And who also dropped two DUI charges against this “man”. Oh I’m sure you live that prosecutor as well.
When the parents walked out and left that kid the school should have called the police to remove him. Here in the UK the head teacher would surely have searched that back pack and the kid would likely have been expelled.
Here in Michigan schools cannot search a student’s person or backpack without “reasonable suspicion”. I’m sure there is a ton of case law dictating what is and isn’t reasonable suspicion. Whether that administration should have had reasonable suspicion to search within the context of that specific meeting, that depends on a lot of facts that have not been released. Personally, I think the shooter’s drawing sounded more suicidal than violent. Maybe I will change my mind if it’s ever released.
@@gregorydanielscpa Even if that were true the school should also have been concerned about that possibility!! The school had a duty of care to Ethan as well as to all of the other kids in school that day and that should and must take precedent over some ridiculous privacy law, While I agree that it should never be lawful to stop and search anyone on the street without probable cause I do think that if you send your kid to a school then that kid should be subject to the rules of that school and that it is entirely reasonable, considering how many school kids have been murdered by their peers in your country, that the rules of the school should include the head teacher being able to search the bags and lockers of any student. Until you are 18 you are a child and when you are not physically with your own parent or guardian then there has to be a contract of trust with the school or care centre which means that their staff are in loco parentis or acting with the rights of the parent while the child in in their custody. Here in the UK even a kid showing a teacher any of Ethan's posts or texts would have led to his being pulled in and likely suspended for investigation. Why? Because they have a duty of care to every single child in their school for the time that they are physically present there. This protects the child as well as class mates and teachers.
You are wrong. That simply is not the case in law. The parents are being charged for their own offences, not for his. Sure, his offence has raised theirs up to involuntary manslaughter but, if they were legally responsible for his actions they would be charged with first degree murder. If he had obtained the weapon without their collusion, there would be nothing to charge them with.
@@q.e.d.9112 depends, you as a the adult is responsible with the storage, munitions and the firearm, if your stupid child shoots up a school the onus is on you. As the guardian of the child
@@q.e.d.9112 What if the shooter used a pencil and stabbed another student in the heart, You just want to grab everyones gun and melt them down to scrap.
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 wrong. There are no storage laws in Michigan so any pathetic attempt to use an unlocked gun as evidence of that is moot. They are guilty of negligence, child neglect and abuse. More than that is abusing the system to satisfy the Lynch mob and is exactly how the kkk used to operate in order to get blacks convicted and lynched.
"LOL...Next time don't get caught..." THAT means to me that the shooter wanted to get caught. Like a cry for help, and when his parents just 'blew off' his cry for help he decided to take the next step, or leap.
So glad my parents weren't crazy and had values and common sense....If they did have guns I never knew about them as a kid....buy your 15 year old kid a nerf gun if he wants a gun
I would guess that he had been crying for attention and help (and love, of course) for some time. His parents leaving him at the school was the final rejection that snapped him. I think the school will end up being bankrupt by this, and the parents definitely will be. My gut tells me the parents are going to get the maximum sentence, unless their lawyer can find a legal loophole.
@@q.e.d.9112 they don't need a loop hole. If they aren't exonerated of manslaughter it is a miscarriage of justice no matter what you think of the parents. You don't get to simply lock someone up and throw away the key for a crime they did not actually meet the standard of commiting because they're pieces of 💩. They would have to prove beyond ANY Reasonable Doubt the Mens Rea of the parents at the time of the alleged crimes AND that they should have reasonably known their child was about to go on a killing spree. Nothing presented so far has even come close to that and is just political grandstanding by the DA for reelection, and using the parents as society's scapegoats for revenge. That's not how it's supposed to go down in a free country.
This prosecutor is setting a fantastic precedent💪💪💪.. People want guns then . They want the accountability that may come with it People want kids. Then They understand the responsibility that comes with them Don't neglect your kids Don't be irresponsible with guns .
Parent's can be fined and thrown in jail if their kid is truant in most states, there's no reason they shouldn't be charged and held accountable for this. They gave him the gun, it was his christmas present. The mother told him to learn how not to get caught when doing dumb things like drawing a picture of murdering people. The parents refused to take their kid home after being confronted by the school about their kids behaviour, which was completely a sign of a child in mental distress.
It's time for some federal, nation wide laws. But we all know that will never happen. After nothing was done after Sandy Hook, I lost complete trust with this country.
@@flowerchild3686 What if he stabbed another student in the heart with a pencil, or pen?Its the act not the weapon. I was stabbed in the leg when I was in grammer school with a pencil. Parents werent charged with anything. Student was charged with a misdeamer assault and got probation in the 70s.
Go after the cops in the street who told Rittenhouse and his group that they appreciated all their help. Rittenhouse was basically deputized that night by those cops, which only made him feel even more empowered.
@@scottshannon2335 his mom drove him across states lines with the freaking assault rifle knowing that he was headed into a volatile situation. STUPID AF
We'll be talking about Polytechnique again next week. I'm glad to live in Canada too, but we're not immune. I guess we should just be glad that we can still remember most of our massacres whereas most of our American neighbours have more or less lost count of theirs.
Quit calling this "another senseless shooting" when YOU HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT IT MAKES SENSE. HE WANTED TO DO THIS. EVERYONE KNEW THAT HE HAD THE MINDSET TO DO THIS AND THE PARENTS HELPED HIM TO CARRY IT OUT. THIS IS NOT SENSELESS. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD THE PARENTS RESPONSIBLE. NOW DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THIS MAKES SENSE AND IT CAN HAPPEN AGAIN WITH SIMILAR STUDENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@johnbravo9164 The parents REFUSED to take the child with them and said that he would finish the day out and they would pick him up. What should the school have done?
@@plutotech They did as far as I know. The parents REFUSED to take him home. We had the same issue with a girl that got in a fight today. Her mom REFUSED to take her home. We couldn't let her wander the halls, so she went to her last period class to finish out the day.
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In the US 5yr olds are taught how to hide from an active shooter, here in Australia 5yr olds are taught their ABC and 123. It's interesting to hear Americans talk about responsibility when it comes to gun ownership, not just 2nd Amendment rights. Gun owners need to be made to feel some pain, even if it's only financial, when their gun is used to cause suffering.
ABSOLUTELY the parents should be held accountable. They’re responsible for what their under 18 children do 100%. THIS is what happens when unhealthy people have a gun fetish.
And yet Gage Grossbicep hasn’t been charged with having an expired conceal license nor with pointing a gun at Rittenhouse. The woke crowd hard at work in this country, pursuing anyone who appears to be anything but liberal. Hope they charge the owner of the car used to mow down parade watchers.
Lock your gun up, so that when you get ambushed, you're "F"ed. Real Smart. How about metal detectors at schools? We have the right to bare arms, but firearms are just too dangerous, everytime I watch the News, another person is shot to death. Obviously, guns are too much power. Banning guns doesn't infringe the 2nd Amendment, guns were meant for militias. We have them police and military. Civilians should only have non-lethal arms like pepper spray and tasers. Every murder everyday is evidence that guns are too dangerous for everyone. Why can't we own nukes or bazookas? Because it's too much power. Same with firearms. Nobody else needs to die because of these murder tools. Wouldn't need the Police if Capitalism didn't cause Wealth Gaps. Capitalism creates Wealth gaps, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. When poverty gets too bad, people will commit crime to survive. You can get a gun to "defend" yourself from crime, but the same system which allows guns also allows capitalism. We can end both these nightmares. Once everyone has universal Income and free Healthcare, there will be no reason to commit crime, no reason to own a gun. All the decent countries have adopted this form of government, it's only in America, an A-HOLE Nation where everything is made to victimize you. "Screw your neighbor and take all his stuff," is the American Way. American women do this thru divorce. It's no surprise that 1 out of 2 marriages ends in Divorce. If we had a Democratic Socialist country we wouldn't have to worry about guns, religion, or abortion ban bills. ☑️ Democratic Socialism is the Choice of a Civilized Society. 💥 United We Stand * Free Healthcare * Free Education * Cancel Student Debt * Universal Income * Pro-Choice * No Firearms!!! * No Religion 💥 Divided We Fall * Capitalism causes a Wealth gap, - Rich get richer - Poor get poorer. - Poverty leads to Crime - Crime leads to Mass Incarceration which leads to Slavery under a different name, and then History repeats itself The decent Democratic Socialist countries: 💥🇨🇦Canada, 💥🇩🇰Denmark, 💥🇫🇮Finland, 💥🇫🇷France, 💥🇩🇪Germany, 💥🇬🇱Greenland, 💥🇮🇸Iceland, 💥🇮🇹Italy, 💥🇳🇱Netherlands, 💥🇳🇴Norway, 💥🇸🇪Sweden, 💥🇬🇧UK. (Unlike 🇺🇲) The underlying message of Democratic Socialism is if you benefit the people, they will benefit the Country, you advance the people and the People advance the Country. Capitalism is the rule of Conservative tyranny, it promotes Slavery and inequality. Which is where America is right now. Obviously the current system ain't working, but Democratic Socialism can change all that. Bernie 2024
This is the kind of thing thar happens when members of your congress minimise violence,, parents see government officials see it as funny to depict murder, so when their kids do it they laugh at it too. How very sad. 🇬🇧
Please look No Further Than Arizona Congress"man", Paul Gosar, Geogia Marjory Taylor Greene.....and the many other GOP members who are simply CANCER OF AMERICA
I'm in Arizona and cannot describe the deep emotional empathy I feel. My sister's coworker lost her 1st cousin, 1 or the 4 who tragically were robbed of their lives. It feels like our society is spiraling downhill fast and it's becoming harder and harder to have faith in the person standing next to each and every one of us in our daily functions because of random shootings. Our kids are learning at a young age - negativity, violence, bullying. Too many hold much anger. Look at the new movies coming out for Christmas. Dark and violent. Video games with graphic death and violence played hours upon hours. Allowed by parents. Effects of social media is out of hand. Parents are often not parenting. Anything goes seems to be the way of our society these days. Where can any person or child be safe any more in our daily functioning?
I agree totally with the prosecutor. I also weep for the parents and students terrorized, injured and killed; and I have sorrow for the shooter and his parents, even though I realize they are responsible. So many lives ended, ruined and damaged. Tragedy again.
I have absolutely no sympathy for the shooter or the parents. They’re all responsible for the deaths. I’d be looking at the grandparents too, bc I don’t think this is just these parents. They learned this irresponsible behavior & then passed it onto the next generation.
This prosecutor is a testament for not being able to even grasp the problem. If you watch the whole video, you can tell that she doesn't know what to do to resolve the gun violence problem. She's not against gun ownership but keeps repeating the same old song about responsibility and locking up your guns that's been sung for years and years. See her stammering for words? She says she wants to do everything in her power to fight this and that's locking up the shooters and in this case the parents. That's cool. Anything else? Nope. The shootings will continue and so will the singing.
It's crazy that parents are held accountable and prosecuted if their children are missing classes but we're not holding these parents accountable?!!! Outrageous!
Or DAs that drop DUI charges against a witness and don’t prosecute this same witness for pointing a gun at a minor. These commenters on here don’t care squat about loss of life. They care about going after gun owners who they think are conservatives. Liberals care about how death occurs, not about death.
I liked that Kamala held parents accountable for there child being truant. We need more people like Karen. I think she was fair by giving Mom and Dad both the same multiple charges. They are both responsible for there child and Mom didn't take the school serious. I bet Mom isn't laughing now.
@@msher1438 we bring these kids into the world and some people forget that that's when the work begins. Children are to be loved and love means guiding them to be good people who will bring up other children to be good people. Things still happen but it's our job to try
I DO want guns taken away! No average citizen should own a weapon of war, no one needs an arsenal, no one should have loaded guns sitting on the kitchen table, no one who is stalking an ex-girlfriend should have a gun, no one who threatens a politician's life should have a gun, etc.
@@lotwizzard1748 I'll start with the assault rifles that are carried openly into state capitols and down the street into volatile situations by 17 year old kids.
LET'S FACE IT THEIR SON'S PROBLEMS DIDN'T START THE DAY HE KILLED THOSE KIDS, THESE PARENTS RAISED HIM THIS WAY AND I TRULY HOPE THEY GET PUT AWAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME !
Fall into the hands of someone who's dangerous? Hello...the kid got the gun as a present apparently. This is ridiculous. The gun didn't just "fall into" his hands.
Where is the love for kids legislators when you can proactively prevent this . Can you even begin to imagine the loss those family and friends are feeling with the loss of these kids
Now this man have to face the harshest of punishment for what he’s done. His parents too has got to be very irresponsible and careless. They must have been very reckless with him all along his life 🤦🏾♂️😢
Ethan's parents: "So sorry Ethan, but know what they say "all good things come to an end." But it's been real. Oh, and good luck at your trial.....be brave."
Yeah, I reckon the teacher tried to do the right thing - the school then let the teacher, that child and all the other children down by not then keeping him separated and supervised, and reporting concerns to police once the parents refused to take him. That kid was clearly needing help, his parents were clearly not going to help him - once the teacher alerted the school, steps should have been taken to keep him safe in a secure place under supervision, for his sake, even if he hadn't had any access to a gun. Surely it's the school's responsibility to separate and look after anyone suffering mentally like he clearly was. As for the parents, they deserve to be prosecuted, giving him a gun, knowing he had mental issues and then leaving him in an environment where he was clearly in distress...and then running?! They knew. Put them away.
The teacher absolutely sensed something wrong after seeing those drawings and did the right thing. He was probably acting odd as well with his horrible plans swirling around in his head.
@@deborahmorales7096 Uhm where do I start. I think it's kind of obvious. But let's see, school shooter kills 4 may they rest in peace. Parent are on the run. If that's not nuts I don't know what is.
Gotta wonder how many of these gun-fetishists have even read the 2nd Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. That's it. The focus is on civic duty, not power projection. Being retired Navy, I'm well versed in small arms, but not in love with them.
These frightful tragedies reverberate throughout Our Country. When will reason reign again, and the whole-sale availability of guns be brought to heel? These events will NOT be prevented unless and until the terrible gun violence is obliterated from our society.
These schools need to develop more physical security protocols. They need to get with event promoters and adapt some of their procedures. I hope she can find a better judge and jury than the prosecutor in the Rittenhouse case found.
Well done, you have the right to own guns but you also should be responsible for what those guns do even if they are not in your hands but still yours!!!
Well, if you can get charged with murder when you're with someone who commits murder, you can be charged with involuntary manslaughter when your 15 year old murders 4 of his classmates with a gun you bought him. Makes sense to me.
How can a child learn in this dangerous environment, SHAME ON REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS , SHAME ON TED CRUZ GLORIFYING HIS BACON COOKING GUN, SHAME ON THEM ALL.
And school counselors should be actively providing onsite COUNSELING to kids that have problems, including bullies and their victims, instead of just giving out class schedules.
Kids come back to school after COVID lock down, this is just tragic. The hunted 2nd amendment rights parents flee, leaving their child behind. The child they bought the gun for and knew there were issues at school, cowards. They left their child after indoctrinating him into the culture they are now abandon. Cowards.
Crazy thought... Could the parents somehow have wanted their son to cause this horrific worldwide attention? Their purchase of this high power gun and their attitude - something doesn't add up. To me it almost feels planned.
Every neighborhood has a kid that hits other kids bullies other kids and is violent. And every neighborhood has a parent that lets that happen and dismisses the actions of their kid when others point out the unsocial behavior. They condone their child's bad behavior and in so doing not only support it but teach their kids its acceptable. Its time we started to hold these people accountable. Every shooter in a HS had a parent who knew their kid had access to guns and was violent. Lock them up we don't need adults training our next homegrown terrorists and protecting them all the way.
This kid didnt look like a bully. The Kids that were interviewed from the school said he was quiet and always looked depressed. It's the quiet kids who no one likes that usually end up being the shooter. The rich and spoiled kids end up being the bullies. That's a proven fact.
If this is true that his parents left they are the worst parents ever. Forget about the gun they abandoned their child when he needed them. This is going to play into the hands of a good defense attorney.
When I owned them, I took all the firing pins out of firearms that were stored long term. I also managed a Pawn Shop for nearly 15 years, there are a lot of people who keep them there with low principal loans for cheap, safe storage.
The boy’s father, James Crumbley, 45, has worked as a tech salesman and recently ran into legal trouble in Florida over child-support payments. He briefly worked as an independent contractor from February to July 2021 and was terminated. His mother penned an open letter to President-elect Donald Trump, which she posted on her blog, in November 2016. “As a female and a realtor, thank you for allowing my right to bear arms,” the letter continued. “Allowing me to be protected if I show a home to someone with bad intentions. Thank you, for respecting that Amendment.” She complained about parents at other schools where the “kids come from illegal immigrant parents” and “don’t care about learning.” It was signed, “A hard-working Middle-Class Law Abiding-Citizen who is sick of getting fu*ed in the a* and would rather be grabbed by the pu**y.” With these two as parents is anyone really surprised.
Holy crap!!! Nope, not surprised. I think the father knew someone on the police force too. I think he called the police and was trying to let them know not to shoot his son.
THE SON: mom, dad, I need a gun. DAD: here's your gun son. Enjoy it. THE POLICE: sir, mam, your son killed 4 students at school. DAD: our son? We don't have a son. Honey, how about that one way trip we were planning since last yr? MOM: Sure, let's go.
This prosecutor should head up new gun law legislation nationwide as well as new protocol for school systems, teachers and administrators, mandatory reporting to LE, individual immediately expelled from school, restraining order regarding school grounds/activities and taken into custody for psychological evaluation and held until evaluation has been completed and said requirements met. Just mho.
The only good coming out of this, is that neither the boy nor his parents will ever legally be able to possess a firearm. So we get a little gun control but at a heavy cost.
Prosecutor is 100% right. Parents appear to be facing very serious time in prison. It is deserved, and it will send a message. Keep your guns away from minors in the household, or you will own the crime your child commits with the weapon or weapons you irresponsibly let them access.
I still don't understaNd why the big necessity to own guns, it's crazy that any citizen can just walk around with loaded guns, of course that is asking for trouble. People stop talking when they have a gun in their hand, they just shoot at worst impuls.
I believe the school needs to be held accountable as well, because they knew he was a dangerous time-bomb, (that's why they called his parents into the office two days in a row; and said he needed counseling within 48 hrs) but allowed him to stay at school!!! If they knew he needed counseling to that degree, they knew he was too dangerous to keep at school...
Why are the parents hiding ? Where are they ? They knew what their son was capable of and did nothing to stop it. Charge them and find them guilty make an example out of them to show other parents that this kind of stupidity will not be allowed and that there will be consequences to their actions.
she reminds me of the Mother in the dark of the valley special , i see a mother taking a stand scared ,yet brave that's what it takes , so together let's take a stand ..
I don’t see why no one looked in his freaking backpack. Like no one. If I’m the administrator and I see in the same week he is searching ammunition, and drawing those pictures. He’s emptying his backpack. Especially once the parents got there and wouldn’t remove him from the school. He’s not going back to class with that backpack not being searched
By texting her son, 'don't do it', suggests there was a discussion about 'it'. What 'it' was she talking about? She definitely assumed he knew what 'it' was.
A sig for Christmas for a 15yr old is the most seriously stupid thing I've ever heard of. Mass school shootings are unique to the USA and yet it continues with gun rights are put before a kids right to go to school and get home safely. What are legislators waiting for ??? Thoughts and prayers don't work but keeping guns in a gun safe might.
I'd be satisfied if we'd enforce the first phrase of the Second Amendment, "A well-regulated militia...." You want to own a gun, you need to be part of a WELL-REGULATED militia, like the National Guard.
The right will scream, "their coming to take our guns"! Well, what do you expect? You don't want any training or vetting about who is responsible to have a gun. All you care about, is you have your 10 guns. My father in law, at 83, with help from family, went and bought a powerful hand gun because he thought people were " coming for our guns " he can barely walk without a cane and has no idea, or capability to actually use it. He's a bishop in a pentecostal church.
these parents are disgusting! running when their son now facing murder charges because of their horrific lack of parenting!! actions say it all!!! if they cared at all about their son they would want to show up and be responsible at the very least!! Pathetic!
They should have got their son a tutor instead of a gun and should be charged and held accountable.
The boy needed a psychiatrist and two mentally stable parents - not a gun. 💯
@@flowerchild3686 absolutely. Sounds like the parents were too busy making excuses and blaming everyone else instead of helping their son.
I think these parents top priority should have been INTENSE THERAPY (as the school told the parents so that very day) and to have been seeing a psychiatrist!
Or maybe a psychologist or both.
@@Rhiannon011 So agree. Instead mom is lol...ing a son who is already on the precipice of danger and murder? Maybe he ran the house and there's a role reversal of sorts with his parents and they don't say no to his requests.
How did the school allow them the privilege of leaving their son there after such a serious meeting, when for all intents and purposes, this was a code red alarm flashing? Shouldn't they have been asked to take him home and stipulate that he's not to return unless he's evaluated by a psychiatrist? Did they send out letters warning other parents about a possible threat so that they too could have made an informed decision if they prefer to have their children attend classes remotely? Very sad. 🙏🙏🙏
Hopefully this precedent sends a message to all parents with guns in the household. YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FROM NOW ON!!!!
They are in Detroit. This is the same state
@@Shel1021 No this is not Detroit. This is a lily white outer suburb. It's a whole different world. These are people who never get closer to the city than the malls, just outside the city limits. Michigan is a purple state. Pay attention to which part you are seeing.
@@Shel1021 Federal charges are enforced across the United States. This does send a ripple.
I wish I could agree with your statement Ian but, truth is, Michigan is just one state. It has a Democratic governor and I’m sure some people who live there actually support what the state prosecutor is trying to do. However, I happen to live in a very red district in Michigan and I know there will be many other people, including the right-wing Republican who represents my district who will, more than likely, fight back against what they feel to be a violation of the killer’s and the killer’s parent’s constitutional rights. I’m not convinced the parents will ever be held accountable for the murders and I’m also not convinced their son will either. This case certainly won’t set a precedent for gun owners anywhere. If anything, it will show gun owners and gun users that they can do whatever they please with said gun and there will be no accountability for their actions whatsoever. That, unfortunately, is the way it is in Michigan and every other state in this country.
This is as it should have always been. For those under 18 the parents have a responsibility to develop their child in a proper way or claim that their child is out of their control to authorities. Yes, that is a difficult call, but that is what it is to be a parent. This is not limited to guns, as a car may be used in the same fashion...know your child and act accordingly, or be culpable.
good job. it is time to remind parents they need to be responceible for their kids
My eyes are bleeding.
Sadly some parents are just sh!t 🤷🏻♀️😟
Actually the school system and his parents failed this kid. If there were issues at school did the school address these issues with the parents. Did the parents attempt to address these issues with their son, I don't mean that buying a high power pistol for Christmas. That to me can be interpreted as a possible denial on the parents part, they're saying nothing wrong with my kid. Maybe it's time to take from the defund police issue. If the school officials concluded that this young man had mental issues, was there a mental health professional available to evaluate him. I'm not talking a gym teacher doubling as a student counselor, I am saying an actual mental health specialist. We will not see this tomorrow. School districts may have to divert funds to hire qualified licensed mental health specialist to assist in evaluating potential difficult students and coordinate with parents and schools officials of possible problems. Its a slim chance this catastrophe could have been averted. And it may be the norm in the near future that schools will be installing metal detectors and back pack and locker checks on a regular basis. These disasters are becoming a norm. At what cost to every parent will it take to stand up and say enough is enough. I am not saying ban all guns, learn from the present to secure the future safety of our children and all people. This is not a political issue it's a life and death situation.
Looking forward to charges for Alec Baldwin.
@@Kingfisher1215 Two different subjects so your point is? Or maybe you’re just taking the opportunity to be nasty
Gun owners are responsible for what happens with their guns and should be held accountable.
@THE TURD REICH SLOPPY JOE & DA HO ! we don’t know about Baldwin yet but we do know about shittenhouse now don’t we?
Make gun owners post an insurance bond of half million/ gun/ year before they can register & own them. Then the premiums alone should cut down the number of guns circulating among the civilians!!
are you saying that gun owners aren't held responsible for what happens with their guns or ??
@@kaythegardener good idea
@THE TURD REICH SLOPPY JOE & DA HO ! The deadliest school shooting in American history happened during the former President's administration. I am NO fan of Pres. Biden, but pretending Pres. Trump is flawless does nothing to help us through this mess. He was WORSE!!!
Never seen a prosecutor be so open with a case like this before! This is awesome! Well done! Thank you!
She may have made a mistake, the lawyers representing the shooter and his parents is going to go to the judge and rightfully claim she she tried the case in the court of public opion and the defendents can't get a fair trial.🙁
You can tell how much this is affecting her. Her heart and also speaking "truth to power". Good for her!
@@katiehettinger7857 It seems she would have considered that before speaking and explaining.
@@katiehettinger7857 She made her case based on police investigating the parents own social media posts along with Ethan’s. As well as phone records
@@katiehettinger7857 I was thinking the same thing. It may be hard to find an unbiased jury. But karma doesn't get called to jury duty.
If you can't keep track of your gun, you shouldn't own a gun.
Thing is, they were keeping track. They knew he had it. They simply didn't care until the time came for them to face responsibility. Then they bailed on their own child, who they enabled, leaving him holding the bag.
The owner had the gun, his parents bought as a present, wasn't that nice.
@@legslipsandlashes9831 so right, this whole thing with the parents was staged, mommies crazy text to daddy reporting the gun missing. Such courage these two showed.
@@louisecollard2320 Do you think that they left him at school thinking that his bag would be searched and that he would be arrested and then maybe get the mental health care he so badly needed? Maybe they thought that he would never use the gun and would get caught ?
@@outlawJosieFox oh yes they did leave him and tried to skip town. Would've told the law they left him at home after seeing the principal. They state he returned to the school after they left. Oh yeah those two geniuses really had it worked out.
For some people, a gun is more precious to them than life itself.
Ethan's parents: "Let's buy our 15 year old son something that was created to do one thing only....to ki//. What's the worst that could happen."
Well said, indeed!
The Michigan law needs to change. If Michigan does not have gun storage laws then people cannot be charged for improper gun storage.
I don’t own a gun. But I realize the limitations state laws place on prosecution.
Maybe they were hoping that their son would be shot by police.
@@marybeth1644
I didn't know that. That's the height of recklessness and Irresponsibility. I'm a Marine veteran and a gun owner, even I know that gun violence in this country is an epidemic.
@@marybeth1644
Thank you so much for proving my point.
From what we know of the parents, they, especially the mother, are not mature enough, intelligent enough to OWN A GUN. The son is just acting out what he has been raised to do. You have a problem, settle it with your gun that your country allow you to have to solve your problems. Polititians will understand when these shootings directly affect their own family. It is hard to see who callously polititians treat the fellow Americans.
Steve Scalise, a Republican in the House of Representatives, was shot and almost died during a congressional baseball game!! He didn't change his mind about guns. Money coming in from gun lobbyists is more important than life.
there needs to be more prosecution of adults threatening behavior on social media
And yet Gage Grossbicep hasn’t been charged with having an expired conceal license nor with pointing a gun at Rittenhouse. The woke crowd hard at work in this country, pursuing anyone who appears to be anything but liberal. Hope they charge the owner of the car used to mow down parade watchers.
@@Kingfisher1215 the felon will get what is coming to him, parents and adults should know better
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 who is the felon? If it’s the driver of the car that mowed down all of the people, then that’s not what this is about. Just like this kid who shot his classmates, the driver can and will be prosecuted. I’m talking about the owner of the car he used. Also, why hasn’t Gage Grossbicep been charged with a crime? And why were his two DUI charges dropped?
@@Kingfisher1215 the felon was the driver, the police have a lot to answer to, the owner of the car is harder to protect, vs a gun is a safe.
@@Kingfisher1215
I see you have internet access, use it instead of whining here. The answer to your questions can be found by searching for the relevant laws which may differ by state &/or if federal law is applicable also. There are statues & precedent that you may look to for clarification as to what is required to warrant criminal indictment. You should also have the ability to look up court proceedings regarding why charges are filed &/or dropped & why. This may include redaction according to the courts decision.
You can begin by looking up Rittenhouse's friend who is also being charged as follows;
Dominick Black, 20, of Kenosha, was charged last fall with two counts of providing a firearm to a minor, resulting in death. He bought an AR-15-style rifle for Rittenhouse in May 2020, when Rittenhouse was too young to legally purchase a gun.
Do you recognize the parallel... When people were killed if the shooter shouldn't have had the weapon whomever provided it is responsible. This has nothing to do with political affiliation it it's according to the laws if the USA.
She's right these parents need to be held accountable. They did the kid was dangerous and they knew he had to accessibility that the gun. The gun with no lock in the trigger!
I am quite certain you’ve never held or fired or owned a gun. It’s very apparent.
@@Kingfisher1215 do you disagree with what they said though? Parents should be held liable for children's active shooting
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 it depends upon what the facts are.
@@Kingfisher1215 it seems that in this case the parents are charged with manslaughter and are evading police arrest so those are the facts
Those parents are just as responsible as that child as far as I’m concerned they killed those poor kids
Love this prosecutor! ❤️
I agree..
What about the Kenosha prosecutor who has yet to file charges on a man who pointed a loaded gun at a minor? And who also dropped two DUI charges against this “man”. Oh I’m sure you live that prosecutor as well.
She is pretty hot.
@@bobby-ov9qn and I’m sure like all liberal women, she is undoubtedly very open minded.
@@bobby-ov9qn yeah she's got that prosecutorial hotness
Awesome! Glad that you are prosecuting this! Great interview!😘❤️😎🤓☮️
So very correct.
When the parents walked out and left that kid the school should have called the police to remove him. Here in the UK the head teacher would surely have searched that back pack and the kid would likely have been expelled.
Wouldn't that kid have been arrested? I thought it was illegal to carry guns in the UK?
@@karenfitzpatrick6256 highly unlikely any kid in the UK has access to guns. It happens but very rarely.
@@brinjoness3386 I wish I could say the same in the US! Too many Americans are gun obsessed. It is horrible...
Here in Michigan schools cannot search a student’s person or backpack without “reasonable suspicion”. I’m sure there is a ton of case law dictating what is and isn’t reasonable suspicion. Whether that administration should have had reasonable suspicion to search within the context of that specific meeting, that depends on a lot of facts that have not been released. Personally, I think the shooter’s drawing sounded more suicidal than violent. Maybe I will change my mind if it’s ever released.
@@gregorydanielscpa Even if that were true the school should also have been concerned about that possibility!! The school had a duty of care to Ethan as well as to all of the other kids in school that day and that should and must take precedent over some ridiculous privacy law,
While I agree that it should never be lawful to stop and search anyone on the street without probable cause I do think that if you send your kid to a school then that kid should be subject to the rules of that school and that it is entirely reasonable, considering how many school kids have been murdered by their peers in your country, that the rules of the school should include the head teacher being able to search the bags and lockers of any student.
Until you are 18 you are a child and when you are not physically with your own parent or guardian then there has to be a contract of trust with the school or care centre which means that their staff are in loco parentis or acting with the rights of the parent while the child in in their custody.
Here in the UK even a kid showing a teacher any of Ethan's posts or texts would have led to his being pulled in and likely suspended for investigation. Why? Because they have a duty of care to every single child in their school for the time that they are physically present there. This protects the child as well as class mates and teachers.
Parents are legally responsible for the actions of their children, up to 18 years.
Yes, it's called custody and if found unfit that custody is given to CP
You are wrong.
That simply is not the case in law. The parents are being charged for their own offences, not for his. Sure, his offence has raised theirs up to involuntary manslaughter but, if they were legally responsible for his actions they would be charged with first degree murder.
If he had obtained the weapon without their collusion, there would be nothing to charge them with.
@@q.e.d.9112 depends, you as a the adult is responsible with the storage, munitions and the firearm, if your stupid child shoots up a school the onus is on you. As the guardian of the child
@@q.e.d.9112 What if the shooter used a pencil and stabbed another student in the heart, You just want to grab everyones gun and melt them down to scrap.
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 wrong. There are no storage laws in Michigan so any pathetic attempt to use an unlocked gun as evidence of that is moot. They are guilty of negligence, child neglect and abuse. More than that is abusing the system to satisfy the Lynch mob and is exactly how the kkk used to operate in order to get blacks convicted and lynched.
We gave our son a brand new 9 mil for Christmas - what did you give your kid?
A proper burial.
OMG, 😭😭😭😭
So sad!
These mass shootings are Republicans' gift to society and their legacy.
Freedumb!
True, Republicans think it’s ok to sacrifice a few kids now and then on the altar of their precious 2nd amendment.
@Terry: I couldn’t agree more! The underlying mindset from this party sums it up in a nutshell as hate!
The parents are all democrats. They always are.
@@bigpicturethinking5620 : Nope, they are whole heartedly republicans.
"LOL...Next time don't get caught..."
THAT means to me that the shooter wanted to get caught. Like a cry for help, and when his parents just 'blew off' his cry for help he decided to take the next step, or leap.
At the same time, it makes the parents complicit.
Yay, guns. smh
@@maryseflore7028 Exactly, it does!
So glad my parents weren't crazy and had values and common sense....If they did have guns I never knew about them as a kid....buy your 15 year old kid a nerf gun if he wants a gun
I would guess that he had been crying for attention and help (and love, of course) for some time. His parents leaving him at the school was the final rejection that snapped him.
I think the school will end up being bankrupt by this, and the parents definitely will be. My gut tells me the parents are going to get the maximum sentence, unless their lawyer can find a legal loophole.
@@q.e.d.9112 they don't need a loop hole. If they aren't exonerated of manslaughter it is a miscarriage of justice no matter what you think of the parents. You don't get to simply lock someone up and throw away the key for a crime they did not actually meet the standard of commiting because they're pieces of 💩. They would have to prove beyond ANY Reasonable Doubt the Mens Rea of the parents at the time of the alleged crimes AND that they should have reasonably known their child was about to go on a killing spree. Nothing presented so far has even come close to that and is just political grandstanding by the DA for reelection, and using the parents as society's scapegoats for revenge. That's not how it's supposed to go down in a free country.
This prosecutor is setting a fantastic precedent💪💪💪..
People want guns then . They want the accountability that may come with it
People want kids.
Then They understand the responsibility that comes with them
Don't neglect your kids
Don't be irresponsible with guns .
No one takes responsibility anymore. They learn that from people like Trump.
@@falconquest2068 What has Biden shown responsibility for?
@@bbooher9663 Take off your Trumpian glasses and see.
This is 100% Trump's Fault!! He has infected the country with Covid and Crazy MAGA Parents ..
@@jasonmilton So true.
Michigan law allows parents to be charged. But not all states have such laws. Sad situation for all involved.
Parent's can be fined and thrown in jail if their kid is truant in most states, there's no reason they shouldn't be charged and held accountable for this. They gave him the gun, it was his christmas present. The mother told him to learn how not to get caught when doing dumb things like drawing a picture of murdering people. The parents refused to take their kid home after being confronted by the school about their kids behaviour, which was completely a sign of a child in mental distress.
@@flowerchild3686 the parents should be charged
It's time for some federal, nation wide laws. But we all know that will never happen. After nothing was done after Sandy Hook, I lost complete trust with this country.
Meanwhile in WI... totaly fine a 17 y/o gets an Ar15 and open carries. We need universal basic laws not this patch work of counter common sense laws.
@@flowerchild3686 What if he stabbed another student in the heart with a pencil, or pen?Its the act not the weapon. I was stabbed in the leg when I was in grammer school with a pencil. Parents werent charged with anything. Student was charged with a misdeamer assault and got probation in the 70s.
There's an active shooter at the school
Every other mother texting their kids: ARE YOU OK!!!!!????
This mother: "Don't do it"
They knew..
Go after Rittenhouse' parents with the EXACT same legal reasoning!
Go after the cops in the street who told Rittenhouse and his group that they appreciated all their help. Rittenhouse was basically deputized that night by those cops, which only made him feel even more empowered.
Rittenhouse did not get the Gun from his parents.
also rittenhouse defended himself. not cause a mass shooting of innocent lives
Yes !! That what I thought too his mother was awful too who lets their kid go to a riot
@@scottshannon2335 his mom drove him across states lines with the freaking assault rifle knowing that he was headed into a volatile situation. STUPID AF
So glad I live in a safe and civilized country…Canada
We'll be talking about Polytechnique again next week. I'm glad to live in Canada too, but we're not immune. I guess we should just be glad that we can still remember most of our massacres whereas most of our American neighbours have more or less lost count of theirs.
Snap! From Down-under
Quit calling this "another senseless shooting" when YOU HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT IT MAKES SENSE. HE WANTED TO DO THIS. EVERYONE KNEW THAT HE HAD THE MINDSET TO DO THIS AND THE PARENTS HELPED HIM TO CARRY IT OUT. THIS IS NOT SENSELESS. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD THE PARENTS RESPONSIBLE. NOW DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THIS MAKES SENSE AND IT CAN HAPPEN AGAIN WITH SIMILAR STUDENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is NOT crazy. He’s a psychopath raised by psychopaths. Psychopaths aren’t “crazy.”
That teacher did their job , they were really a good teacher to observe that and get the info relayed.
And then the kid was allowed to go back to class with a gun in his bag.... yeah they really knocked that one out of the park didn't they.
@@johnbravo9164
The parents REFUSED to take the child with them and said that he would finish the day out and they would pick him up.
What should the school have done?
How long before brain-cell deprived MAGA devotees start sending the teacher(s) death threats?
@@L._Diaz suspended him.
@@plutotech
They did as far as I know. The parents REFUSED to take him home.
We had the same issue with a girl that got in a fight today.
Her mom REFUSED to take her home. We couldn't let her wander the halls, so she went to her last period class to finish out the day.
It's about time, bad parents are the root of all these troubles. They need punishment.
Absolutely 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 when you want to have kids 😀 😊 😄 👍 ☺ 🙂 😀 😊 😄 👍 it comes with great responsibility 😀 😊 😄 👍 ☺ 😉 😀 😊 😄 👍 ☺ 😉 😀 they can be in controlled parents have to be in controlled you always have to check on them know who there friends are checking what they doing on internet 😀 😊 😄 😉 ☺ 🙂 😀 😊 😄 😉 ☺ 🙂 😀 😊 😄 😉 be there for them 😀 😊 listened to them 😀 😊 😄 👍 ☺ 😉 😀 😊 😄 👍 ☺ 😉 😀 they having problem in school 🏫 😀 😊 😄 👍 ☺ 🏫 😀 😊 😄 👍 go talk to the school administration be there for them they want attention or else they will turn to others dont fail them,
In the US 5yr olds are taught how to hide from an active shooter, here in Australia 5yr olds are taught their ABC and 123.
It's interesting to hear Americans talk about responsibility when it comes to gun ownership, not just 2nd Amendment rights.
Gun owners need to be made to feel some pain, even if it's only financial, when their gun is used to cause suffering.
ABSOLUTELY the parents should be held accountable. They’re responsible for what their under 18 children do 100%.
THIS is what happens when unhealthy people have a gun fetish.
scary thing is there are parents like this all over the country.. .... letting kids have guns
And yet Gage Grossbicep hasn’t been charged with having an expired conceal license nor with pointing a gun at Rittenhouse. The woke crowd hard at work in this country, pursuing anyone who appears to be anything but liberal. Hope they charge the owner of the car used to mow down parade watchers.
@@mrcarterfx885 like my parents when I was young. And I was no threat to shoot anyone. The same for millions of kids.
@@Kingfisher1215 What are you even talking about?
Lock your gun up, so that when you get ambushed, you're "F"ed. Real Smart.
How about metal detectors at schools?
We have the right to bare arms, but firearms are just too dangerous, everytime I watch the News, another person is shot to death. Obviously, guns are too much power. Banning guns doesn't infringe the 2nd Amendment, guns were meant for militias. We have them police and military. Civilians should only have non-lethal arms like pepper spray and tasers. Every murder everyday is evidence that guns are too dangerous for everyone. Why can't we own nukes or bazookas? Because it's too much power. Same with firearms. Nobody else needs to die because of these murder tools.
Wouldn't need the Police if Capitalism didn't cause Wealth Gaps.
Capitalism creates Wealth gaps, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. When poverty gets too bad, people will commit crime to survive. You can get a gun to "defend" yourself from crime, but the same system which allows guns also allows capitalism. We can end both these nightmares. Once everyone has universal Income and free Healthcare, there will be no reason to commit crime, no reason to own a gun. All the decent countries have adopted this form of government, it's only in America, an A-HOLE Nation where everything is made to victimize you. "Screw your neighbor and take all his stuff," is the American Way. American women do this thru divorce. It's no surprise that 1 out of 2 marriages ends in Divorce.
If we had a Democratic Socialist country we wouldn't have to worry about guns, religion, or abortion ban bills.
☑️ Democratic Socialism is
the Choice of a Civilized Society.
💥 United We Stand
* Free Healthcare
* Free Education
* Cancel Student Debt
* Universal Income
* Pro-Choice
* No Firearms!!!
* No Religion
💥 Divided We Fall
* Capitalism causes a Wealth gap,
- Rich get richer
- Poor get poorer.
- Poverty leads to Crime
- Crime leads to Mass Incarceration
which leads to Slavery under a different name, and then History repeats itself
The decent Democratic Socialist
countries:
💥🇨🇦Canada,
💥🇩🇰Denmark,
💥🇫🇮Finland,
💥🇫🇷France,
💥🇩🇪Germany,
💥🇬🇱Greenland,
💥🇮🇸Iceland,
💥🇮🇹Italy,
💥🇳🇱Netherlands,
💥🇳🇴Norway,
💥🇸🇪Sweden,
💥🇬🇧UK.
(Unlike 🇺🇲)
The underlying message of Democratic Socialism is if you benefit the people, they will benefit the Country, you advance the people and the People advance the Country.
Capitalism is the rule of Conservative tyranny, it promotes Slavery and inequality. Which is where America is right now.
Obviously the current system ain't working, but Democratic Socialism can change all that.
Bernie 2024
This is the kind of thing thar happens when members of your congress minimise violence,, parents see government officials see it as funny to depict murder, so when their kids do it they laugh at it too. How very sad. 🇬🇧
Please look No Further Than Arizona Congress"man", Paul Gosar, Geogia Marjory Taylor Greene.....and the many other GOP members who are simply CANCER OF AMERICA
The ripple effect…
I'm in Arizona and cannot describe the deep emotional empathy I feel.
My sister's coworker lost her 1st cousin, 1 or the 4 who tragically were robbed of their lives.
It feels like our society is spiraling downhill fast and it's becoming harder and harder to have faith in the person standing next to each and every one of us in our daily functions because of random shootings.
Our kids are learning at a young age - negativity, violence, bullying.
Too many hold much anger.
Look at the new movies coming out for Christmas. Dark and violent.
Video games with graphic death and violence played hours upon hours. Allowed by parents.
Effects of social media is out of hand.
Parents are often not parenting.
Anything goes seems to be the way of our society these days.
Where can any person or child be safe any more in our daily functioning?
"With great power comes great responsibility!"
Like handling a gun on a movie set.
Not Locking up guns should also be a chargeable offense!
No, they need to get rid of all the guns and let the military run America!
I agree totally with the prosecutor. I also weep for the parents and students terrorized, injured and killed; and I have sorrow for the shooter and his parents, even though I realize they are responsible. So many lives ended, ruined and damaged. Tragedy again.
I have absolutely no sympathy for the shooter or the parents. They’re all responsible for the deaths. I’d be looking at the grandparents too, bc I don’t think this is just these parents. They learned this irresponsible behavior & then passed it onto the next generation.
This prosecutor is a testament for not being able to even grasp the problem. If you watch the whole video, you can tell that she doesn't know what to do to resolve the gun violence problem. She's not against gun ownership but keeps repeating the same old song about responsibility and locking up your guns that's been sung for years and years. See her stammering for words? She says she wants to do everything in her power to fight this and that's locking up the shooters and in this case the parents. That's cool. Anything else? Nope. The shootings will continue and so will the singing.
Guns guns guns more guns it’s sick.
Sick America.
Time to permanently repeal the Second Amendment.
This is the result of the Trumpification of the country.. These people are sick!!
And everyone that goes out shooting ends up enjoying it. You should try it. They are a lot of fun to shoot.
@@Kingfisher1215 Saith the devil.
It's crazy that parents are held accountable and prosecuted if their children are missing classes but we're not holding these parents accountable?!!! Outrageous!
Or DAs that drop DUI charges against a witness and don’t prosecute this same witness for pointing a gun at a minor. These commenters on here don’t care squat about loss of life. They care about going after gun owners who they think are conservatives. Liberals care about how death occurs, not about death.
I liked that Kamala held parents accountable for there child being truant. We need more people like Karen. I think she was fair by giving Mom and Dad both the same multiple charges. They are both responsible for there child and Mom didn't take the school serious. I bet Mom isn't laughing now.
@@msher1438 we bring these kids into the world and some people forget that that's when the work begins. Children are to be loved and love means guiding them to be good people who will bring up other children to be good people. Things still happen but it's our job to try
I hope the families demand answers from Ethan's parents as they seek justice for loved ones
I DO want guns taken away! No average citizen should own a weapon of war, no one needs an arsenal, no one should have loaded guns sitting on the kitchen table, no one who is stalking an ex-girlfriend should have a gun, no one who threatens a politician's life should have a gun, etc.
thousands of guns are hidden. how will you find them?
@@lotwizzard1748 We will start one at a time!
@@oliviaturner7388 how will you find the hidden ones?
@@lotwizzard1748 I'll start with the assault rifles that are carried openly into state capitols and down the street into volatile situations by 17 year old kids.
@@GoGreen1977 there will be casualties. dtrump supporters have made that clear
1960 5 year old taught us, duck and cover under our desk. 60 years ducking our head in the sand.
Each time there is another shooting it also triggers the trauma for every other survivor of precious shootings.
if my school was teaching my kids how to hide from a shooter at 6.... i would rethink school in general or leave the USA
LET'S FACE IT THEIR SON'S PROBLEMS DIDN'T START THE DAY HE KILLED THOSE KIDS, THESE PARENTS RAISED HIM THIS WAY AND I TRULY HOPE THEY GET PUT AWAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME !
This is 100% Trump's Fault!! He has infected the country with Covid and Crazy MAGA Parents ..
Right!
Fall into the hands of someone who's dangerous? Hello...the kid got the gun as a present apparently. This is ridiculous. The gun didn't just "fall into" his hands.
Where is the love for kids legislators when you can proactively prevent this . Can you even begin to imagine the loss those family and friends are feeling with the loss of these kids
Now this man have to face the harshest of punishment for what he’s done. His parents too has got to be very irresponsible and careless. They must have been very reckless with him all along his life 🤦🏾♂️😢
He should have mental help. People just don't shoot others like that unless their are serious mental problems.
He's not a man... he's a 15 year old boy whose parents are idiots.
Put them in jail now and hold the trial in another State to get a guilty verdict.
Ethan's parents: "So sorry Ethan, but know what they say "all good things come to an end." But it's been real. Oh, and good luck at your trial.....be brave."
Yeah, I reckon the teacher tried to do the right thing - the school then let the teacher, that child and all the other children down by not then keeping him separated and supervised, and reporting concerns to police once the parents refused to take him.
That kid was clearly needing help, his parents were clearly not going to help him - once the teacher alerted the school, steps should have been taken to keep him safe in a secure place under supervision, for his sake, even if he hadn't had any access to a gun. Surely it's the school's responsibility to separate and look after anyone suffering mentally like he clearly was.
As for the parents, they deserve to be prosecuted, giving him a gun, knowing he had mental issues and then leaving him in an environment where he was clearly in distress...and then running?! They knew. Put them away.
The teacher absolutely sensed something wrong after seeing those drawings and did the right thing. He was probably acting odd as well with his horrible plans swirling around in his head.
And yet, the schools guidance counselor let him go, WITHOUT CHECKING HIS BACK PACK. Here come the lawyers.
WOW this is nuts.
What is?
@@deborahmorales7096 Uhm where do I start. I think it's kind of obvious. But let's see, school shooter kills 4 may they rest in peace. Parent are on the run. If that's not nuts I don't know what is.
A semi-automatic for a Christmas present?! For a 15 year old?!!!
The parents are unreal
Mandatory trigger locks start at $6 for handguns 🤷🏼♀️.
Gun culture is awesome isn’t it? “By the fruits ye shall know them.”
Looking forward to charges for Alec Baldwin.
Gotta wonder how many of these gun-fetishists have even read the 2nd Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. That's it. The focus is on civic duty, not power projection. Being retired Navy, I'm well versed in small arms, but not in love with them.
These frightful tragedies reverberate throughout Our Country. When will reason reign again, and the whole-sale availability of guns be brought to heel? These events will NOT be prevented unless and until the terrible gun violence is obliterated from our society.
Instead of buying a gun they should have paid for therapy for thier messed up kid.
These schools need to develop more physical security protocols. They need to get with event promoters and adapt some of their procedures. I hope she can find a better judge and jury than the prosecutor in the Rittenhouse case found.
Do well Ms. McDonald. Those of us that secure our weapons in our homes need you to teach those that do not. Best of wishes to you.
Well done, you have the right to own guns but you also should be responsible for what those guns do even if they are not in your hands but still yours!!!
Well, if you can get charged with murder when you're with someone who commits murder, you can be charged with involuntary manslaughter when your 15 year old murders 4 of his classmates with a gun you bought him. Makes sense to me.
This is 100% Trump's Fault!! He has infected the country with Covid and Crazy MAGA Parents ..
“Owning a firearm comes with great responsibility.” *Uncle Ben*
How can a child learn in this dangerous environment, SHAME ON REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS , SHAME ON TED CRUZ GLORIFYING HIS BACON COOKING GUN, SHAME ON THEM ALL.
100% Accurate; Only problem is None of the Republican Senators You Named Have the Capacity to FEEL SHAME, Only Capacity they have Is SElF ENRICHMENT
they care more about fetuses then these poor children
God... I never thought I'd EVER say this... but I'm so proud of Karen. Job well done!
I thank you to the Prosecutor for the job well done.
It’s called being Negligent!!!
9:55
And school counselors should be actively providing onsite COUNSELING to kids that have problems, including bullies and their victims, instead of just giving out class schedules.
It'll just happen again in 3 weeks.
It almost always does and nothing changes.
Kids come back to school after COVID lock down, this is just tragic. The hunted 2nd amendment rights parents flee, leaving their child behind. The child they bought the gun for and knew there were issues at school, cowards. They left their child after indoctrinating him into the culture they are now abandon. Cowards.
GO. PROSECUTOR...💜
Crazy thought...
Could the parents somehow have wanted their son to cause this horrific worldwide attention?
Their purchase of this high power gun and their attitude - something doesn't add up.
To me it almost feels planned.
Thank you
adults need to take notice
Every neighborhood has a kid that hits other kids bullies other kids and is violent. And every neighborhood has a parent that lets that happen and dismisses the actions of their kid when others point out the unsocial behavior. They condone their child's bad behavior and in so doing not only support it but teach their kids its acceptable. Its time we started to hold these people accountable. Every shooter in a HS had a parent who knew their kid had access to guns and was violent. Lock them up we don't need adults training our next homegrown terrorists and protecting them all the way.
Time to move... This country is F**ked!!!
This kid didnt look like a bully. The Kids that were interviewed from the school said he was quiet and always looked depressed. It's the quiet kids who no one likes that usually end up being the shooter. The rich and spoiled kids end up being the bullies. That's a proven fact.
If this is true that his parents left they are the worst parents ever. Forget about the gun they abandoned their child when he needed them. This is going to play into the hands of a good defense attorney.
America loves there guns guns guns not there children so sad
*their
When I was a kid, all we worried about was nuclear war. We never heard of students getting stabbed or shot.
When I owned them, I took all the firing pins out of firearms that were stored long term. I also managed a Pawn Shop for nearly 15 years, there are a lot of people who keep them there with low principal loans for cheap, safe storage.
The parents are now in the wind.
The boy’s father, James Crumbley, 45, has worked as a tech salesman and recently ran into legal trouble in Florida over child-support payments. He briefly worked as an independent contractor from February to July 2021 and was terminated. His mother penned an open letter to President-elect Donald Trump, which she posted on her blog, in November 2016. “As a female and a realtor, thank you for allowing my right to bear arms,” the letter continued. “Allowing me to be protected if I show a home to someone with bad intentions. Thank you, for respecting that Amendment.” She complained about parents at other schools where the “kids come from illegal immigrant parents” and “don’t care about learning.” It was signed, “A hard-working Middle-Class Law Abiding-Citizen who is sick of getting fu*ed in the a* and would rather be grabbed by the pu**y.” With these two as parents is anyone really surprised.
Holy crap!!! Nope, not surprised. I think the father knew someone on the police force too. I think he called the police and was trying to let them know not to shoot his son.
Wow! Talk about trash people!
And there you have it, a little peek into Mom's mentality....
THE SON: mom, dad, I need a gun.
DAD: here's your gun son. Enjoy it.
THE POLICE: sir, mam, your son killed 4 students at school.
DAD: our son? We don't have a son. Honey, how about that one way trip we were planning since last yr?
MOM: Sure, let's go.
This prosecutor should head up new gun law legislation nationwide as well as new protocol for school systems, teachers and administrators, mandatory reporting to LE, individual immediately expelled from school, restraining order regarding school grounds/activities and taken into custody for psychological evaluation and held until evaluation has been completed and said requirements met. Just mho.
Forget it, what you are saying makes too much sense. This country loves its damned guns.
Just in case you pycho gun
owners dont know! Thats colorado law too.
The only good coming out of this, is that neither the boy nor his parents will ever legally be able to possess a firearm. So we get a little gun control but at a heavy cost.
Prosecutor is 100% right. Parents appear to be facing very serious time in prison. It is deserved, and it will send a message. Keep your guns away from minors in the household, or you will own the crime your child commits with the weapon or weapons you irresponsibly let them access.
I still don't understaNd why the big necessity to own guns, it's crazy that any citizen can just walk around with loaded guns, of course that is asking for trouble. People stop talking when they have a gun in their hand, they just shoot at worst impuls.
There are too many guns in this country.
This was not only a gun BUT an automatic gun with a magazine. Can't we at least pass a law prohibiting the automatics???
I believe the school needs to be held accountable as well, because they knew he was a dangerous time-bomb, (that's why they called his parents into the office two days in a row; and said he needed counseling within 48 hrs) but allowed him to stay at school!!! If they knew he needed counseling to that degree, they knew he was too dangerous to keep at school...
Why are the parents hiding ? Where are they ? They knew what their son was capable of and did nothing to stop it. Charge them and find them guilty make an example out of them to show other parents that this kind of stupidity will not be allowed and that there will be consequences to their actions.
BUT THEY HAVEN'T GOT THE PARENTS THE PARENTS ARE ON THE RUN ⚔️
she reminds me of the Mother in the dark of the valley special , i see a mother taking a stand scared ,yet brave that's what it takes , so together let's take a stand ..
School is also at fault for letting the shooter back in school and putting other students in danger.
I don’t see why no one looked in his freaking backpack. Like no one. If I’m the administrator and I see in the same week he is searching ammunition, and drawing those pictures. He’s emptying his backpack. Especially once the parents got there and wouldn’t remove him from the school. He’s not going back to class with that backpack not being searched
Please please please take the guns away. Anything less than that is just talk. Take the guns away.
By texting her son, 'don't do it', suggests there was a discussion about 'it'. What 'it' was she talking about? She definitely assumed he knew what 'it' was.
Be afraid. This will not change.
This country is going downhill fast and it is only going to get more dangerous.
A sig for Christmas for a 15yr old is the most seriously stupid thing I've ever heard of. Mass school shootings are unique to the USA and yet it continues with gun rights are put before a kids right to go to school and get home safely. What are legislators waiting for ??? Thoughts and prayers don't work but keeping guns in a gun safe might.
REPEAL the 2nd Amendment
I'd be satisfied if we'd enforce the first phrase of the Second Amendment, "A well-regulated militia...." You want to own a gun, you need to be part of a WELL-REGULATED militia, like the National Guard.
@THE TURD REICH SLOPPY JOE & DA HO ! That sounds like a threat.
I agree 100% the Second Amendment has greatly outlived its usefulness to society.
The right will scream, "their coming to take our guns"! Well, what do you expect? You don't want any training or vetting about who is responsible to have a gun. All you care about, is you have your 10 guns. My father in law, at 83, with help from family, went and bought a powerful hand gun because he thought people were " coming for our guns " he can barely walk without a cane and has no idea, or capability to actually use it. He's a bishop in a pentecostal church.
Get your kid therapy..Nope...Let's go gun shopping smh
This is going to change everything. I feel hopeful with this prosecutor on the case.
these parents are disgusting! running when their son now facing murder charges because of their horrific lack of parenting!! actions say it all!!! if they cared at all about their son they would want to show up and be responsible at the very least!! Pathetic!
CHICAGO 👏 APPLAUDS
THE PROSECUTOR!
PRAYERS TO ALL VICTIMS
ALIVE & DECEASED AS WELL
AS, THEIR FAMILIES, FRIENDS & COMMUNITY!
This is the result of the Trumpification of the country.. These people are sick!!
The message is stop buying your kids guns. Stop allowing them to have access to guns. Take cries for help serious IMMEDIATELY.