Himawari Is The NEW Protagonist Of Boruto!?

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  • @NCHammer23
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    • @astral9988
      @astral9988 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They're gunna do the same thing in the war arc and share the Chakra full circle

    • @lumina36
      @lumina36 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nchammer23 btw theres some interesting news on the Boruto Anime Side of Things Studio Pierrot have Confirmed and Said in various interviews that theyr Turning Boruto into a Seasonal Anime and that theyr Reorganizing their Entire Company Making Major Changes and Reorganizing their Entire Animation Style so dont expect the Anime to come back until 2025-2026 its the same with the 4 new Naruto Episodes theyr not cancelled they delayed Due to the Major changes and Reorganizing being made in Studio Pierrot

    • @catsthatsmokemeth
      @catsthatsmokemeth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please make an onlyfans daddy

    • @cameobelafonte4975
      @cameobelafonte4975 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Genes are weird so if kurama actually didn’t die he probably would’ve just really disappeared or took longer to come back since he’s now a toddler or smaller version of his former self. When he left Naruto his daughter probably has the closest connection to him since she had more of his chakra than boruto also she made a chakra connection with him when she shut off his network at 3yrs old with her byokugan. So he recollected himself into her. But as you can see it was never said hagaromo had the byokugan, only hamura had it, hagoromo unlocked the sharigan and later the rinnegan, even had a 3rd tomei like forehead piece when he acquired sage mode and the rinnegan. Baruto as of now only has the jogan

    • @mattheller5131
      @mattheller5131 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Boruto didnt get Kurama because he has Momo inside. I think it's similar to how Pa couldnt attach to Naruto because Kurama was in there.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +705

    Kurama is the Piccolo of Naruto.
    - Kurama killed Naruto's dad
    - Kurama bonded with Naruto
    - Kurama is now looking after Himawari

    • @IsaiahWayne2104
      @IsaiahWayne2104 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      Kurama is Piccolo
      Minato is Goku
      Naruto is Gohan
      Himawari is Pan

    • @rossjones8656
      @rossjones8656 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Also the author like said character.

    • @tonemoney2697
      @tonemoney2697 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bruh piccolo is younger than Goku, and 4 years older than Gohan no comparison at all

    • @airistal
      @airistal 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ericcady9257 They didn't say how much younger than Goku he is. Yes, they needed an apostrophe after the the first half of the sentence.

    • @oguhaner7608
      @oguhaner7608 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ericcady9257 how did read that

  • @Shuyin128MK4
    @Shuyin128MK4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +264

    Something else to note about Himawari is that whenever she reaches an emotional break point, she has a personality shift not to different from when Naruto would be influenced in hatred by Kurama's chakra early on (such as against Haku). Himawari goes from gentle and sweet, into fierce and dangerous, without growing claws and fangs.

    • @zyadeldinehjij8289
      @zyadeldinehjij8289 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ok

    • @blaisedunbar5097
      @blaisedunbar5097 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ye r like when she first used the bukugon against boruto

    • @BlazeRequiem
      @BlazeRequiem 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That’s honestly a trait both Hinata and Naruto has

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That’s just estrogen dude.

    • @terrywarren9158
      @terrywarren9158 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I hope we get the opponents perspective when Hima finally snaps.
      Briefly blurring the normal lines to a horror genre as Hima one shots the battle field would easily prove to be one of the coldest moments in anime.

  • @HonestlyApollo
    @HonestlyApollo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    Baby kurama was towering over hagoromo in those panels...he was not small. He was just newborn

    • @Acradus
      @Acradus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Arguable he had more chakra being fresh formed by hagoromo than his earliest possible form reincarnated/revived in himawari

    • @HonestlyApollo
      @HonestlyApollo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@Acradus that's the point I was making. His size as a newborn was still massive because he had all his chakra. His size is small now because he has less chakra

    • @michaellane5381
      @michaellane5381 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@HonestlyApolloi really hope we get a baby Kurama 3 year training montage even if only filler at that point... Would be adorable.

    • @HonestlyApollo
      @HonestlyApollo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@michaellane5381 Sadly, she didn't know about kurama being in her (Pause) until jura pointed it out. Chapter 9 is kurama introducing himself and asking if she knows him. I'm also assuming he's lost a lot of his memory as well. But maybe when she goes with Boruto we can get some montage of her training with kashin koji since he has jiraiyas memories of both kushina and Naruto having kurama also when Sasuke gets saved he'll be a good mentor but by that point Naruto should be saved as well.

    • @michaellane5381
      @michaellane5381 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HonestlyApollo you misunderstand, not "Himawari" training but "baby Kurama" in her little dimensional space, which exists beyond the jinchuriki being aware of it and is connected to the unified tailed beast plane.

  • @kris-zw5hx
    @kris-zw5hx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +354

    I just realized something: Himawari is ready to hear out Boruto and Naruto was ready to hear out Itachi

    • @jithinff8686
      @jithinff8686 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      damn facts

    • @janpablo7
      @janpablo7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Da hell are you on about? Naruto was ready to throw hands, da fck.

    • @blakpulp1366
      @blakpulp1366 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@janpablo7 he did both though. Lol 😂

    • @kris-zw5hx
      @kris-zw5hx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@blakpulp1366 He did😄

  • @maniacmel6771
    @maniacmel6771 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Nick remember the first time naruto tried to accept chakra from the toads. Kurama litterally punted off gramps and was digusted with having someone else use sage chakra when kurama already does that. So maybe kuramas chakra is being rejected by the karma seal dna

  • @ozo998
    @ozo998 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    Nick: Why Himawari?
    Me: uhhh... cuz she's adorable and best girl?

    • @taylor.river7
      @taylor.river7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I though the same thing. 🌻🦊❤😊

    • @michaellittle-q7x
      @michaellittle-q7x 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Can’t wait to see her throw hands with this power up. Hopefully we see some new or advanced techniques soon!

    • @craxmaankhaalid8138
      @craxmaankhaalid8138 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mybe because she is the daughter of ex main character and boruto sister 😂😊

    • @axowarrior
      @axowarrior 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Boruto is Preoccupied my Momoshiki LAMO
      Maybe if they had given him kurama then we might have seen Momoshiki Vs Kurama in the Tailed beast Plane

    • @KuroDeku
      @KuroDeku 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@axowarriorhey, maybe Kurama is there, but also regaining strength…

  • @nostraadamusgaming4616
    @nostraadamusgaming4616 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I think it’s only “detectable” by Rinnegan or Shibai DNA. Which explains why Daemon and Juubi dude were able to detect Kurama while he was hiding his chakra. And since Sasuke lost his Rinnegan, that’s why he didn’t detect it

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    Kurama is always watching Uzumakis from within them.

    • @reddysg
      @reddysg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The Only Gate Keeper We Approve Of 😂

    • @RippoDee-ko3ve
      @RippoDee-ko3ve 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Kurama is a perent a very good one.. he never stop takes care of the Uzumaki family, mito, minato, kushina, naruto n now himawari😊😂

    • @grandpascardstcg
      @grandpascardstcg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RippoDee-ko3vewhat he murdered minato and kushina lmfao

    • @RippoDee-ko3ve
      @RippoDee-ko3ve 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@grandpascardstcg yes your right he murdered minato n kushina, but hoe that happens
      He was posses by obito in a mask , n they think it was Madera.. bro kushina ave kurama the whole time till they said there's self bro, it was repper deth seal.. n it was the only was cauz he was being controlle by Madera r obito bro,

  • @neonanbu19
    @neonanbu19 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Nick I’ll be honest and I’m sure everyone here will agree, I am so glad you decided to start doing TH-cam! Your videos are not just entertaining but so informative as well!
    I have yet to finish shipuden (it was spoiled for me YEARS ago) and watching your videos on how Jutsus work and info on the clans has made watching it so much more entertaining! So from the bottom of my heart and everyone else thanks man!!

  • @PhucYuBich
    @PhucYuBich 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    3:34 video starts here. Unless you wanna hear that same damn raid legends ad

    • @justingorodetzky
      @justingorodetzky 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      comment section mvp

    • @subgivtara
      @subgivtara 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Revanced automatically skips lol

    • @RedDeathAnims
      @RedDeathAnims 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@subgivtaraWhat’s Revanced?

    • @hyustonhoncho4543
      @hyustonhoncho4543 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you.

    • @hyustonhoncho4543
      @hyustonhoncho4543 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RedDeathAnimsif you have to ask this. You dont have to use revanced. Lol

  • @Alyssa-oe8st
    @Alyssa-oe8st 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    we got a the female versions of naruto and sasuke - himawari and sarada! just imagine the kurama-susanoo they’ll create 😭🔥🔥

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boruto's ass would definitely want to ride on it.

    • @AKASHARO67
      @AKASHARO67 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😮😮😮😮

    • @hunterculpepper1973
      @hunterculpepper1973 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Himawari should of been the protagonist borouta shouldn't exist sarada and himawari should of been the main characters

    • @sylvanuskofi1952
      @sylvanuskofi1952 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hunterculpepper1973another goofy comment

  • @taylor.river7
    @taylor.river7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    There was also another foreshadowing moment for Himawari getting the 9 tails fox. Momoshiki saying to Kurama "you have so much power fox, but no way of passing to the next generation".
    Kuruma was literlly passed down to next generation.
    Also, 2 versions of Kurama can exist at the same time (vid Minato & Naruto). So, maybe when Boruto finds a way to get rid of momoshiki, he will get a Kurama too.

    • @skytheemperor
      @skytheemperor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Not a bad theory

    • @daPsychoNinja
      @daPsychoNinja 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I want to poke this theory by postulating that you can't be a vessel of more than. One extra soul so when Boruto became the vessel of momoshiki he could no longer be the jinchuriki of kurama so it has to default to himawari.

    • @seiverdamross
      @seiverdamross 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      the only reason there were 2 Kuramas is that he yin and yang sides were split. assuming he is reconstituting himself it would be as both sides together as Naruto had when he lost him

    • @daPsychoNinja
      @daPsychoNinja 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@seiverdamross exactly it would be more like kurama had two karma marks in the form of the whiskers. One set for Boruto and one for Himawari, but if Boruto was corrupted (like Code).

    • @axowarrior
      @axowarrior 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daPsychoNinja Exactly

  • @LXV-e9d
    @LXV-e9d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    Kishimoto finally making the female characters relevant for once. Hopefully he keeps this up.

    • @mjredder
      @mjredder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      LOL Good one.

    • @shrubninja6444
      @shrubninja6444 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      He gave a female character *potential* to be cool. I'm pretty skeptical of whether she'll actually do anything cool though.

    • @oriley66
      @oriley66 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It's Kishimoto after all

    • @shadow-faye
      @shadow-faye 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We can hope ​@@shrubninja6444

    • @LXV-e9d
      @LXV-e9d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@shrubninja6444 Sadly I can see Himawari being a plot device. Having that much chakra could make her a target that Boruto and Kawaki have to save. I hope to god I’m wrong though and she actually learns how to fight with kcm and byakugan.

  • @Immaperson856
    @Immaperson856 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +560

    “Todays video is sponsored by raid shadow legends”

    • @Immaperson856
      @Immaperson856 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      And first

    • @darkridertv9547
      @darkridertv9547 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      First reply

    • @Iamculture1
      @Iamculture1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      What a spoiler

    • @rjtrappedout6275
      @rjtrappedout6275 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      *changes clothes*

    • @subgivtara
      @subgivtara 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      My revanced automatically skipped that

  • @mindofthemuseless
    @mindofthemuseless 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    "Those blue eyes will take everything from you"

    • @benlee8225
      @benlee8225 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      what if the vision momo has is not complete and the one he was reading boruto future is without seeing omnipotence so hes seeing kawaki getting everything taken from him by himawari revealing the truth

    • @shrubninja6444
      @shrubninja6444 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      "Including your role as protagonist"

    • @JacksonJonez
      @JacksonJonez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@shrubninja6444including your role as protagonist killed me bro 😂😂😂😂

    • @____Hope____
      @____Hope____ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@benlee8225hold on you’re on to something

    • @azariahmartin5259
      @azariahmartin5259 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was just about to comment thisv

  • @KushbiZ
    @KushbiZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I feel like Hima's taijutsu is about to be INSANE.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    First, Himawari knocked out Naruto and threatened Boruto
    Now, Himawari has stolen Kurama and Boruto's MC role.

    • @rebekahstockwell8706
      @rebekahstockwell8706 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I don't think she's going to steal Boruto's MC role... They'll BOTH be MCs.

    • @zyadeldinehjij8289
      @zyadeldinehjij8289 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      MC means

    • @DEMOMLORD7
      @DEMOMLORD7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nah ste is GOING to be the side characters that just show in the show she is the fourh place 1 Is boruto 2 Is kawaki 3 sarada And she is 4 And others villain and others characters

    • @Unholy_Tragedy
      @Unholy_Tragedy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zyadeldinehjij8289main character

    • @jithinff8686
      @jithinff8686 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      main character@@zyadeldinehjij8289

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Kurama isn't the first Tailed Beast that Himawari had met and befriends.

    • @scarletrevon522
      @scarletrevon522 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Sadly people forgot about Shakaku (spelled that wrong I know ) aka ones tails

    • @rebekahstockwell8706
      @rebekahstockwell8706 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We don't know if the anime canon stuff is going to get canonized yet, so you can't really consider this as true. Now, if we see some of the anime only stuff get canonized... Then yeah.

    • @blaisedunbar5097
      @blaisedunbar5097 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was just about to say that to lol

    • @RippoDee-ko3ve
      @RippoDee-ko3ve 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're right, n i believe himawari is going to b the one that makes
      Shukaku trust the humans more cauz he say he dont likes r trusted humans.

  • @TeachHiddenInTheLeaves
    @TeachHiddenInTheLeaves 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Yeah, I just assumed Boruto could never be a Jinchuruki because he has no vacany in his body due to Momoshiki.

  • @zacharyfernandes4690
    @zacharyfernandes4690 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    That speed line was outta pocket 🤣🤣

    • @KarimChang
      @KarimChang 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I didn't get it. What was he refering to?

    • @VictorLeontowicz
      @VictorLeontowicz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👖👇

    • @Foxy2D
      @Foxy2D 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@KarimChang speed on one stream had his you know what show from his pants

    • @BrenniBoo
      @BrenniBoo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What would happen if she gets KCM2 & unlocks the Tensigan?!

  • @sidbhagat9150
    @sidbhagat9150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Maybe because Boruto got fully Outsutskkfied he no longer has Naruto’s DNA so Kuramas energy could be fully revived or reincarnated into Himawari

    • @jahernandezTX
      @jahernandezTX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agreed. I can easily imagine Kurama saying “I tried reincarnating in that brat Boruto but Momoshiki was already there”

  • @christophershoup6598
    @christophershoup6598 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This also makes a great possible argument for Himawari eventually unlocking the Tensaigon, as if the Biakugon is incredibly Chakra depleting, then the upgraded version should be as well.

    • @benry007
      @benry007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A Tensaigon and tailed beast chakra cloak together would be totally broken😂 Love it.

    • @unspokentruths6416
      @unspokentruths6416 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Tenseigan may be the reason Kurama was reborn within her in the 1st place, it literally translates to "Rebirth" or "Reincarnation Eye". It would also explain how Kurama died and now he came back in his infantile form, the same way he looked when Hogoromo created him, he was straight up reborn due to Himawari Reincarnating him intentionally or unintentionally with the Tenseigan within her (like the Tenseigan automatically reincarnated him because she already had a little bit of his Chakra in her). She may not even realize she has it, it could be laying dormant within her the same way Kurama was. It would even explain why Kurama was reborn within Himawari and not Boruto. It could exain Kurama's size, she wouldn't have a large enough chakra pool to bring him back full strength. Hell if the Tenseigan was involved, it could even explain why Boruto wasn't able to "see" Kurama being reborn within Himawari (assuming he can actually see the future or far away events with his Jogan). I just find it to be too big of a coincidence that so many people think Himawari will awaken the Tenseigan (a dojutsu that translates to "Rebirh/Reincarnation eye) and now all of a sudden a fan favorite character that died was reborn within her.

  • @theforkedman3030
    @theforkedman3030 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I would never stop laughing if Boruto or Himawari ends up jokingly call kurama "dad."

  • @VastKing
    @VastKing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Boruto and Kashin are most likely working with Orochimaru, but we also have to remember that Orochimaru has a bunch of hideouts so who’s to say that they’re just not hiding at one of them one that he has abandoned a hideout that he no longer uses and since Sasuke is Boruto’s teacher. He could’ve told him of all the hideouts Orochimaru used back when he was with Orochimaru or with Hebi/Taka.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I wouldn't be surprised if Himawari bonded with Kirama within the next few chapters.

    • @axowarrior
      @axowarrior 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If kurama does try to take control
      One Gentle fist knock out

  • @TheCrazyCapMaster
    @TheCrazyCapMaster 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    20:30 I just want to note that Kurama might be able to gain new chakra much faster than humans can. All Tailed Beasts are just amalgamations of nature energy at their core, and Kurama is able to gather nature energy skillfully enough to act as a giant battery for Naruto’s Sage Mode; so theoretically, he should be able to regain strength as quickly as he can manage to absorb nature energy. This could easily still take several months though. It’s also possible that he wouldn’t be able to do this until Himawari’s body is able to safely handle nature energy- I.e., by becoming a sage.

  • @traestephens1890
    @traestephens1890 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    At the time when himawari was conceived kurama was no longer sealed, I mean he was still inside of Naruto but during the war Arc, Naruto had the key to open the seal. Initially he used it to open the seal so he can battle kurama and pull off as much of his chakra as he could and then he was able to re-close the gate and seal kurama. But as the battle waged on during the war Arc Naruto learned Kurama's name, they eventually bonded and Naruto completely undid the seal so after the war ark even though Kurama was still inside of Naruto, he wasn't sealed, he could have actually escaped Naruto at any point in time if he wanted to but since they had formed a bond he stayed inside of him. Except for a number of scenes where Naruto's asleep and you can see kurama's Avatar head protruding from Naruto stomach, at one point he had a conversation with kawaki, wow floating in the air above Naruto while he was sleeping.
    If kurama had been sealed still than most likely his chakra would not have had an ability to cross over to his children. But since the seal had been completely removed and kurama was free inside of Naruto, it would be understandable that some of his chakra could have leaked during the conception of himawari and it bonded with her at a DNA level

  • @The_Brain_Less
    @The_Brain_Less 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Don't forget that not all of kurama's chakra was destroyed on baryon mode ,there is still half of kurama chakra that have been absorbed by momoshiki,so when momoshiki died kurama could be revived with that chakra

    • @TheLastSane1
      @TheLastSane1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This is what I was thinking too. When a Jinchuriki dies, it takes YEARS for a Bijuu to regather their chakra enough to reform. How long was it between Momoshiki draining HALF of his chakra and Baryon mode? I don't think it was that long between Momoshiki dying and Bayron mode burning up that remaining half of his chakra. Which would mean Himawari could go from starting Genin to War Arc Naruto in terms of chakra amount as War arc Naruto only had half of kurama till after minato used his half to give to Naruto.

    • @blaisedunbar5097
      @blaisedunbar5097 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also half off that chakra is the same amount as pree yin and yang combined kuruma in naruto and most off shipeden

    • @ukyba
      @ukyba 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The difference is that chakra was completely integrated into the otsutsuki. Like when sasuke stole chakra from naruto, it didnt just manifest as kurama chakra. It was used up​ and converted into a chidori. And momoshiki's chakra went to boruto. So boruto would have anything leftover in himself. And just like kurama didnt reabsorb his chakra from kinkaku and ginkaku, i doubt he could take it from boruto. But that's my speculation. Its not very clear how that works. Its too vague. @@TheLastSane1

    • @ukyba
      @ukyba 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheLastSane1but baryon mode destroyed that half of chakra and all of the chakra momoshiki had would have gone into boruto's karma.

  • @FictionalLuvus
    @FictionalLuvus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I personally believe that Himawari is going to land the final hit on Jura and be the one to convince Kawaki to stop being ‘semi’-evil.

    • @stormjackson8605
      @stormjackson8605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I definitely see her using some talk no jutsu on kawaki and stopping him from turning fully evil and as for jura, she’ll give him that “lock on” treatment she gave naruto kurama and boruto 😂

    • @TheRealPots
      @TheRealPots 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hmm.. if we take the vase arc as foreshadowing then perhaps your correct about her snapping Kawaki out of it. Let's not forget Boruto was the one who pushed Kawaki to fix it in the first place though!

  • @RayOfSunhine2012
    @RayOfSunhine2012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Momoshiki telling naruto of how big of a shame it is he can't pass on his power to his offspring.
    Kurama: "hold my beer"

    • @benlee8225
      @benlee8225 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      if the chakra wasnt past at the start when hima was born. then that probly gave kurama the idea and why was so open to speak of baryon mode

    • @RayOfSunhine2012
      @RayOfSunhine2012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @benlee8225 even in nuclear fusion, such as the one in atomic bombs the energy used isn't destroyed. It is expended as heat and energy and reconstituted into new matter. So even then the theory that energy can neither be created nor destroyed still applies. Meaning yes kurama may have expended his energy inside of naruto. But bc energy cannot be destroyed he basically just evaporated into the ether and reconstituted himself inside the next possible incarnation of who he initially inhabited as a vessel. It makes sense why kishimoto would go down this route and I'm all for it

    • @isaiahbrooks2561
      @isaiahbrooks2561 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RayOfSunhine2012 Makes a lot of sense when you explain it that way. 👍

    • @RayOfSunhine2012
      @RayOfSunhine2012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@isaiahbrooks2561 thank you lol

  • @tshepangpadime3246
    @tshepangpadime3246 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The underwear thing traumatized me💀💔😹😹

    • @nk47596
      @nk47596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same

    • @Hunter2k-dr
      @Hunter2k-dr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What?

    • @HonestlyApollo
      @HonestlyApollo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It literally happened right before I saw your comment lmao

    • @Omnispiderknight
      @Omnispiderknight 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro I thought I was the only one

  • @Shajahan_Music
    @Shajahan_Music 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my theory has been that both boruto and himawari were born with trace amount of the beasts chakra, such a small amount that it was practically inert. when kurama got burnt out, the dormant chakra that was still in himawari activated and kurama began reconstructing itself overtime within her while its chakra that was in boruto had long been destroyed by momoshiki assimilating himself within him. kurama resurrecting through himawari stemmed more from the fact that she was the only other source with its chakra than because it specifically chose her.

  • @darrellstevenson3400
    @darrellstevenson3400 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nick I’ve been watching your channel for two years now it sucks i can’t make it to your panel but i want you to know your the reason i love anime now you opened my eyes bro so i know we’ll meet on day but great job on the channels bro your the best bro

  • @dongleboi
    @dongleboi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just wanted to point out that in the last 2 videos you said that kurama has been this week before because he was small in that picture of all the tailed beast and the sage of six paths. But if you actually look closer the sage is smaller than them. Meaning they are probably still 8 feet tall. And in the new chapter hes shorter than even himawari. Meaning he’s actually never been this small

  • @ItsCrouton
    @ItsCrouton 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The excitement i gain when Nick uploads….unmatched

    • @JordanSmith-jx8sh
      @JordanSmith-jx8sh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      dang super fan huh

    • @BMCKINN7
      @BMCKINN7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sorry 😢

    • @peacemaker4829
      @peacemaker4829 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JordanSmith-jx8sh Yes

  • @FaithOlorunobafemi
    @FaithOlorunobafemi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember how she wanted to leave the village because Jura is going to attack it putting people at risk so she might leave the village with Boruto.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Kurama loves being inside of Uzumakis. Dattabeyo!!

    • @ianoconnell2831
      @ianoconnell2831 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oooo sounds like a possible porn spin-off am intrigued

    • @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
      @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More like succumbing to fate after being inside so many.

  • @sherlock0546
    @sherlock0546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone else realise his reference to kurama glueing together a vase like kawaki had to do and the fact kawaki couldn’t find the last piece like how kurama may not be able to regain all his chakra

  • @julianf40ify
    @julianf40ify 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Video starts at 3:34

    • @e7234
      @e7234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! Saved me 3:25 seconds. 👍🏻 i had to find you comment first

  • @MatthewDias25
    @MatthewDias25 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think it's more likely that the little Kyuubi is Kurama's offspring. Himawari inherited some of Kurama's chakra and eventually it became a new Kyuubi.

  • @rusone2516
    @rusone2516 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's like two people using the internet at one house.
    Person A- watching only youtube on their phone.
    Person B- Downloading, Playing an online game, Streaming and watching videos.
    If Person B loses the ability to access the internet, that opens up Person A to do more with the internet at faster speeds. If we think about Kurama's chakra like the internet connection at a house. And Naruto Boruto and Hima all had the ability to use the internet(Kurama's Chakra). But Naruto was using so much that it slowed Hima and Boruto's connection to the internet (Kurama's chakra). Boruto got a different internet provider, Naruto lost all of his passwords and cannot connect. This means Hima is the only person able to connect to the internet, with the right passwords and IP address.

  • @petertsickritzis9208
    @petertsickritzis9208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nick, Hinata comes from one of the noble clans. And she has the remnants of hamura's chakra.. the uzumaki side of those children is not the only strong side. I feel like we don't talk about hinata's lineage enough when discussing the power scaling of the children. She is hella powerful.

  • @freddie31jr
    @freddie31jr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @NChammer23, I truly enjoy how informative your blogs and podcast are. It is refreshing to know that with guys like you informing us about all things anime! Thanks 👍🏿👍🏿😃👍🏿😃

  • @zombie_115
    @zombie_115 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I keep thinking that himawari is willing to listen to Boruto because theres a bunch of pictures of both of them together in her house and none of Kawaki

  • @zachculberson4457
    @zachculberson4457 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was a fire video my man.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Remember when Kurenai tried using Genjutsu on Itachi? 😂😂

    • @Aboggie
      @Aboggie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂 yes

  • @p.gin3955
    @p.gin3955 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    19:35 Well no... Kurama in chapter 9 of TBW is many times smaller than "Baby Kurama" that Hagoromo created...
    Kurama now is literally smaller than Himawari, she's literally down on one knee and still taller than him, as we can see here 10:07
    When Kurama was "born" he was literally the size of a house, as we can see here 19:39

  • @stormjackson8605
    @stormjackson8605 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    there’s a theory going around that boruto takes hima out of the village to kashin koji and koji trains her sage mode and how to use kurama chakra like juriaya trained naruto

  • @TitaniumCranium77
    @TitaniumCranium77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Schrödinger's Cat is a famous thought experiment that demonstrates the idea in quantum physics that tiny particles can be in two states at once until they're observed. It asks you to imagine a cat in a box with a mechanism that might kill it. Until you look inside, the cat is both alive and dead at the same time. @NCHammer23

  • @kyrudo
    @kyrudo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have a lot of mixed feelings when it comes to Himawari, because her character growth as explained in the video comes at the cost of Sarada's. Like, I hear you Nick, I do think Himawari and Boruto being a team would be cool and makes sense with the title, but also remember that Boruto was first sold to us as him being the Sasuke-like and Sarada being the Naruto-like. Its rough. I do think Kurama would be better off inside Sarada since Sarada has a ton more expirience and is stronger, but also would push her more to the Naruto-like Camp. But then that comes at the cost of Himawari basically not being able to contribute to the plot. I just don't know.
    I want both girls to matter. Now, if it was left to me, I think Himawari has a stronger emotional connection to Shukaku and thats how Id fix it. Have Kurama be like: Hey, I cant really protect you, Im too weak. Go home, take me to Shukaku, I'll talk to him and maybe he'll also jump in and you two can actually be a Team. That way Himawari is a lot safer with Shukaku a full power Tailed Beast and then we also leave the door open for a Sarada powerup and the theme of her being Naruto's true successor.

    • @hammeraffe
      @hammeraffe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      himawari> sarada stay mad uchia fanboy

  • @sungodrj3200
    @sungodrj3200 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only thing left unanswered about Himawari is her chakra release, I think. She could have wind like her father but since it’s unanswered any release, Yin & Yang included, is on the table.

  • @Denki.kaminari.the.only.1
    @Denki.kaminari.the.only.1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Little theory when kuramas chakra came back he searched for naruto but since naruto isn't there he chose to go to boruto (probably) but momoshiki didn't let him then he ultimatly chose to manifest in himawari

  • @vatVFX
    @vatVFX 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:55 bro a baby isn't formed in the stomach 😭😭

  • @kingN4GG4
    @kingN4GG4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe kurama is attracted to excessive chakra and there's a possibility that boruto do not have a large chakra reserve as himawari, maybe boruto looks like his dad but actually hage the chakra reserves of his mom and visa versa for himawari, this leading kurama to appear within hinawari

    • @ohgeazy
      @ohgeazy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      9 Tails and Momoshiki would not be able to go together , has nothing to do with chakra reserves

    • @zezeti2246
      @zezeti2246 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it has more to do with the fact that Boruto is already unofficially Momoshikis jinchuriki😅

  • @DanielLopez-jl7is
    @DanielLopez-jl7is 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most TH-camrs I used to watch that got sponsored started making 5 minutes ads and 5 minute videos for the 10 minute mark. I’m glad it was just a 5 minute intro and a normal video. Get that bag man

  • @Jak0Lanturn712
    @Jak0Lanturn712 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Himawari is definitely gonna play referee for Boruto and Kawaki. Hence why she'll need strength. So that's the writing reason for her to be given Kurama

  • @YAAVMS
    @YAAVMS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think what’s cool is kurama is kinda doing the otsuki thing by having different vessels so hima is one and I do think that kuramas chakra will be unleashed in boruto too. ALSO that line with Hima saying she feels Naruto is still around is here actually sensing the bit of chakra that is still in Naruto from kurama, she’s possibly tying her chakra with Naruto kinda like a shadow clone in a sense

  • @Hmm...SoThatsHowItIs
    @Hmm...SoThatsHowItIs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    3:35 you're welcome !

  • @mastertucker
    @mastertucker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found this channel before weeb commander and had NO idea that the Kurama isn't dead was the first. I guess with weeb commander being made known to me I was like "surely this channel existed longer too and I just haven't watched older stuff yet" and didn't rightly comprehend I've been following these since the start of this channel. Nice!

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:09 what if the reason why kurama didn't concentrate back in boruto was because his genetics were already overwritten. His vessel was no longer in tune with kurama.

  • @taylor.river7
    @taylor.river7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Kurama might me the reason team 10 and Himawari find out about omnipotence.
    Shikadai is as smart as his father, if Shikamaru douted his memories, why didn't shikadai? 🤔

  • @JustDmanVR
    @JustDmanVR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine if Kurama was “reset” to where he’s back to baby kurama and he has little to no recollection of being fused with Naruto or still has some familiarity with Naruto’s chakra but can’t recall why, unless reminded that at a point in time he was.
    maybe I’m wrong but, I don’t see Kishimoto giving us that baryon battle outcome/moment then over time bring the same Kurama we all know back. Most of the recent events on Boruto has been pushing the usual heavy hitters out of the front lines. I.e (Sauke’s rinnegone and now even in omnipotence is considered “rogue” and Naruto being sealed away as well as losing Kurama).
    there’s a new power scale and most of its has been “new” unknown threats to where we gotta rely on the new heavy hitters and a bit of Who? What? Where? When? And Why?’s so maybe we can’t have that same ol’ kurama with all the pre-Boruto experience running around with Eida-like knowledge.
    All in all I like where it’s been going so far either way.

  • @DevonBarr
    @DevonBarr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My theory of why it was himiwari instead of boruto it's because she was simply on earth while boruto was noto

  • @danielgrace999
    @danielgrace999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like Himawari might have a "safe" way to use baryon mode with twin lions fist. With a v2 kcm cloak powering up T.L.F. which drains the targets chakra on contact that chakra could be combined with tailed beast chakra to form the baryon energy which would in that moment destroy the absorbed chakra and a chunk of the struck targets chakra. It would be devastating and the idea that Himawari will learn this technique is high since her mother is its inventor. And if she uses kcm chakra arms as the striking source then she wouldn't be in direct contact and thus wouldn't suffer the chakra destruction effects of being in cintact with baryon energy.

  • @Alfareon
    @Alfareon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At that point, the place kurama spent the most time consistently in was Konoha. If tailed beast chakra returns to the place they spent the most time at, then the chakra gathers in Konoha and will eventually coalesce. Since himwawari was the only one with kurama characteristica, the chakra coalesced with her as the host.

  • @RippoDee-ko3ve
    @RippoDee-ko3ve 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a feeling mini kurama is gonna grow faster than we expected!

  • @SOMETHING_TO_WATCH
    @SOMETHING_TO_WATCH 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just remember this when Naruto had the nine tails, it was only half of the Ninetails chakra. The other half went to his dad. This one is a full nine tails chakra, that she’s holding in, but just younger.

  • @AaronSmith-my2dh
    @AaronSmith-my2dh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember the fight with the Fourth, The Nine tails chakra was separated which later allowed two individuals to possess the power at the same time. Once minato officially passed on it remained a yin and yang which allows his children to have it now.

  • @ghost23230
    @ghost23230 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do think that with himawari getting kurama's chakra was based off of genetics because when Naruto was born he was surrounded in kurama's chakra so his chakra got fused with his dna which is why he has whiskers. And himawari has a pair of Byakugan. So not only having one of the strongest tailed beast in the series but also has the ability to attack someone's chakra nodes is insane. For Boruto not having kurama's chakra i think originally before the introduction of otsutuki's i think Boruto was going to get kurama's chakra. But since in timeline when Boruto killed momoshiki which gave him a karma marking which was slow but surely altering his DNA that it changed to the point where he still had the whiskers from Naruto's genes but there was little to nothing of kurama's chakra inside that he wasn't able to reform. Which gave him the only option of himawari.

  • @charlottehpreston4908
    @charlottehpreston4908 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It makes me wonder if Himawari will be the one to find Naruto and Hinata outside of those who know where they are, with Kurama possibly boosting her byakugan to be able to look into different dimensions.

  • @ryankrishneel
    @ryankrishneel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine Borutos down, enemies closing in as he resigns himself and then you hear “Locked on”

  • @TheGoldeneye9
    @TheGoldeneye9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad you went over the point i brought up in the previous video at 18:05 about the doll/plushy. Great video as always

  • @VastKing
    @VastKing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve always thought of Boruto and Momoshiki having a similar relationship to Naruto and Kurama where they dislike each other in the beginning and then start to depend on each other to the point they become friends idk if they’ll get as far as friends but I know it’ll get to a point where Boruto can tap into Momoshikis power without any issues also I do feel it’s as Nick stated before the fact that Momoshiki is in Borutos body is what is preventing Kurama from reviving in his body but it would be cool if at least he can access some nine tails chakra and get a cloak or something but come to think of it since he is a full Otsutsuki think of how the Otsutsuki’s have used tailed beast chakra in the past their bodies become more monstrous and they get different eyes/ Doujutsu so maybe he’ll gain another eye besides the Jougan but that’s just a random thought/ theory also not to be that guy but am I the only one that would hope Hima uses Kurama temporarily and when Naruto comes back he somehow is able to absorb Kurama back into his body but let me not get ahead of myself we have to wait for the next chapter to be sure because this could be a whole new ninetails not necessarily Kurama he may be a offspring and just share Kurama’s memories through Chakra or whatever.

  • @slatta4084
    @slatta4084 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If baryon mode can sap chakra, and Hyuga whole thing is seeing chakra points, she might be able to drain chakra to zero in one hit

  • @TheCorruptionKing
    @TheCorruptionKing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:30 Himawari is being activated now, for later story use. When the Kara ten tails Jura, starts gathering and consolidating power, Himawari will do a tailed beast era's tour gathering the tailed beast

  • @allthingsjacole
    @allthingsjacole 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You were really on point with this one 😂
    Have to rewatch to keep up lol

  • @ItzSmoothie
    @ItzSmoothie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe that momoshiki being inside boruto could possibly be a factor in why kurama didn’t manifest inside of him

  • @DUTCHESSBD
    @DUTCHESSBD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    kurama said it when he said he cant believe that the ten tail brat snuff him out which means he was hiding in hima because he figured they wouldnt snuff him out.. also he wasnt asking her if she know him because h didnt know himself he was asking if she knew him. remember we are not FULLY CLEAR if hima was fully affected by ada power or not because when she was show in the early chapter she said she knew what her mind was telling her but her feeling was telling her something different

  • @theseeker7711
    @theseeker7711 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know what would be sick?Is if Himawari talked to little Kuarama,turned around and walked away and you saw the Gigantic Kuarama watching her leave.

  • @demolition3612
    @demolition3612 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the part where Himawari wanted a kurama plushie was also a foreshadowing

  • @ryanpressley2753
    @ryanpressley2753 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Himawari is having sunflower symbolism may also refer to how they can absorb radiation from irradiated soil. She absorbed the chakra of Kurama as it burned off from Naruto. Just a thought.

  • @kielusi9812
    @kielusi9812 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My theory is when naruto and hinata was making himawari kurama accidently put some of his chakra to himawari now he got rebirth or revive inside himawari

  • @nevaehgillon8760
    @nevaehgillon8760 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or would it just be because boruto already has someone in him so there would be a weird dynamic

  • @chrisclark7117
    @chrisclark7117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With this need information, I had a hilarious thought. Imagine this moment causes Jura Hidari to retreat, because Himawari very suddenly and quickly put the fear of God in these 2 with how abruptly she can rage out and how accurately she strikes when she does. Almost instantly killing Jura, indirectly "teaching him something new about the world" 😂😂😂

  • @theseeker7711
    @theseeker7711 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine Momoshiki gloating to Boruto in their astral plane thing.Thinking he won.And a huge shadow appears and it shows Boruto saying....Dad.He thinks it's his dad because he sees Kuarama

  • @bobbig3728
    @bobbig3728 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just wanna see her use her fathers fighting style for like five seconds in a battle turn on her dojusustu then finish one of tree people off with the hyugas! peak anime 👌🏿

  • @telltaleheart839
    @telltaleheart839 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The funny thing is that with himawari, the joke of naruto tagging out with kurama while sleeping with Hinata could almost be considered true

  • @thenomu
    @thenomu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember way back when, it was stated that tailed beast couldn’t be completely destroyed, they would just be dispersed for a period of time and eventually return. So I don’t think it was death bate, cause there are a plethora of characters that have 100% stayed dead.

  • @Fvviff
    @Fvviff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Himawari be like: 1000 shadow clones, kcm2 byakugan assisted, 64,000,000 trigrams Rasengan, Adamantine Sealing chains Jutsu!

  • @OurSaiyan
    @OurSaiyan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro I don’t know why it never occurred to me that Hima can switch the byakugan on and off, what the heck! Everyone that’s Hyuga has the eyes right off the bat but Hima is different! Thanks for pointing an obvious thing out to me Hammer haha

  • @TheJaky7
    @TheJaky7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to think that at least a part of the reason the heavy chakra taxing jutsus were able to be used more often at the end of the series was that the user simply got more experienced in that specific chakra control and therefore was able to use it more efficiently, thus expending less chakra.
    Sure chakra pools should be able to be increased by training, but not to the order of magnitude as was shown at the end of series, that just feels like lazy writing somehow

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kurama said "I'm going to keep an eye on that little one tail. Here let me put a little bit of chakra in himawari. She is always near him."
    One tail- "Have I ever told you how much I really hate that fox."
    😅

  • @CrimsonWar5
    @CrimsonWar5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being 100% a genetically overriden Alien might be another reason for getting Kurama blocked

  • @Seargentmyself
    @Seargentmyself 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Hima is genetically similar in some capacity with Kurama from the whiskers, the I think Hima's chakra would look a lot like Kurama's. So the people familiar with her chakra are used to it looking and feeling a lot like Kurama's. So a small amount of actual pure Kurama chakra could easily get lost, making someone unfamiliar with Hima have an easier time detecting it than the amazing sensors already familiar with her

  • @onceuponatime9499
    @onceuponatime9499 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Boruto might get some special training for his snake sage mode with oruchimaru

  • @Drakenwild
    @Drakenwild 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know what would probably be a quick way for Kurama to regain all his chakra? Absorbing the Shinju. They are banks of bijuu chakra after all.

  • @cwxgames468
    @cwxgames468 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I figured that basically the Ōtsutsuki basically over written Borutos genes taking away his "link" to Kurama.

  • @DblBcnChee
    @DblBcnChee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly, different routes taken to get there, but the tailed beasts are kinda like the shinju themselves, a split off chunk of the ten tails chakra that has it's own consciousness

  • @KushbiZ
    @KushbiZ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Boruto: Kenjutsu
    Himawari: Taijutsu

    • @hunterculpepper1973
      @hunterculpepper1973 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man himawari should of been the main character boruta shouldn't exist