Hi everyone! I just want to make a few clarifications here since pricing for the digital version has emerged! The actual physical retail price for the game is $60, which contains a 100pg 5.25”x7.25” softcover artbook and 2-disc soundtrack packaged with the game in a custom box. This might be a good enough justification for collectors to get the physical copy, despite my criticisms. However, the digital version retails for $50, which was a price point that I've thought would launch better with the game, though I'm leaning more towards recommending it at $40 here.
Yup just noticed it on the eShop. Was going to get the physical version but I'd have to pay extra for shipping since I don't live in the America unfortunately
I feel like I’m the only one around here super excited for this game, the retro throwback and the Secret of Mana inspired gameplay 😂😂😂 great review Alex!!
dude same, i'm wearing those same nostalgia goggles and don't see those flaws as real problems because all i see is secret of mana 😂 loved your review!
Flaws aside, I'm still really excited for this! Maybe it's because I regularly engage with older games alongside new ones, but a lot of the issues aren't really things that bother me very much, and the upsides (for me) like the top-down action, wonderful character designs are even hand-drawn anime cutscenes are all things I love. I feel like this one was definitely made with a specific audience in mind, for sure
Thank you for the excellent review! I think I'm still seeing things I might enjoy, but I will certainly wait for a big sale to get the game. Also, at 2:44 you mentioned Zelda here, and the funny thing is the weapon ring reminds me of changing weapons in BOTW! I really liked the mini pause that would provide, but I know for some it disrupted the flow of combat. I also reckon that it's alright if you do it for one character, but having to manage your whole team....eeeh 😅
It certainly works for Link since he's alone! But for a party of three, it becomes a bit too babysit-ey! I'm always on the lookout for real time party based action games for my turn based brethren, but the AI in this is just one big OOF!
@@BacklogBattle Yeah, clunky party control combined with a not so smart AI...what were the devs thinking 😬 This would definitely not convince someone to try an action based battle system >.>
When this video popped up on my sub box I was surprised that I'd just never heard of this game before, but it sounds like I wasn't exactly missing out on much, it doesn't look like anything I'd be too biased in favor of either. Nice review, very cohesive as always.
Thanks for this review! Personally I wouldn't miss this game, despite its design imperfections. Looking forward to playing 3-player with my two kids as well...🤓🙂🙂
I dropped trails of mana (remake) because of the absurd AI of my party members during boss fights, thank you for informing me that I shouldn't buy this one. I'll just go on with the amazing octopath traveler 2.
Ah well, kinds good in a way. I was interested in this. Nice to know I wouldn't be missing much by skipping it. Still got Octopath 2 at the moment and new Zelda comes out soon.
Nice review, was on the fence about this one, I'll wait for a sale. Wonder what SuperDerek will have to say about the game, he was really looking forward to it.
I'm excited to play, but I'm not a huge fan of Co-Op being a few hours in. It means you make someone wait hours before they can play. Or you do it solo, and your co-op partner misses out on the story. Overall I'm excited about the game play and art style. Will definitely pick this up.
Yeah not my thing then, I was curious, but for starter... I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for that but if there is one 16-Bit era JRPG for which I never understood the love for it's Secret of Mana, I played it and think it was average at best, I don't understand how people place this game even remotely close to the like of Chrono Trigger or the SNES Final Fantasy, to each there own I guess. And from what you're telling me here this looks like a game that isn't worth considering if you didn't like Secret of Mana in the first place.
That's all correct! I do have a follow-up video that I'm planning to release next week about Secret of Mana and Trinity Trigger. Should be an interesting one!
I got the game for $40 through Best Buy. I had a $10 promotional Gift Card and a $10 promotional Store Credit to use. Can we just talk though about how the physical version of the game comes with an artbook, 2 disc soundtrack, AND a freaking manual!?!
I was hoping for this game to be excellent when I first heard about it. But then I saw who the developers were and saw what their game development history is. Mediocre is being kind to the devs.
Most of it sounds all right. My main concern is the healing as a free action. I'm not a fan of games where you can heal at any time without sacrificing anything but an item. In classic turn-based RPGs, you had to use a turn to heal. In more contemporary action RPGs, you often need to go through a brief period of vulnerability while you quaff the healing item. Unless it's impossible to stockpile healing items, there should be some time cost that keeps a massive stockpile of healing items from completely breaking the game. This game seems very breakable.
1. It's better than other FuRyu games, but not by much 2. Story wasn't memorable for me. I usually sum up the premise of a game's story, but felt it was more important to capture what the gameplay will feel like for people and focus on that, mainly because people will be dealing with that more than the story.
@@BacklogBattle I’ll check them out and wait for this to go on sale then. I’m trying to get them into RPGs they don’t seem to like traditional ones so I’m hoping this can ease them in
Hmm, having to change weapons, like to whip across gaps, was always annoying in Secret of Mana. I’ll get this game when it’s on sale and maybe by then they’ll have straightened out some of the issues.
"co-op"... "local" instant nope all my friend gamers live way too far nobody in my area would want to play a game like this. That part of the appeal falls flat here
Hi everyone! I just want to make a few clarifications here since pricing for the digital version has emerged!
The actual physical retail price for the game is $60, which contains a 100pg 5.25”x7.25” softcover artbook and 2-disc soundtrack packaged with the game in a custom box. This might be a good enough justification for collectors to get the physical copy, despite my criticisms.
However, the digital version retails for $50, which was a price point that I've thought would launch better with the game, though I'm leaning more towards recommending it at $40 here.
Yup just noticed it on the eShop. Was going to get the physical version but I'd have to pay extra for shipping since I don't live in the America unfortunately
I feel like I’m the only one around here super excited for this game, the retro throwback and the Secret of Mana inspired gameplay 😂😂😂 great review Alex!!
dude same, i'm wearing those same nostalgia goggles and don't see those flaws as real problems because all i see is secret of mana 😂 loved your review!
I'm with you David. Pre-ordered Day 1 edition. Alex, I love your review as well as David's. I enjoy both channels and discords.
You're not the only one! 😊
I'm excited too. I asked my dad to get my pre order copy. Since I'm on my work right now and on site. So I'm coming home maybe 3 days from now. 😢
Flaws aside, I'm still really excited for this! Maybe it's because I regularly engage with older games alongside new ones, but a lot of the issues aren't really things that bother me very much, and the upsides (for me) like the top-down action, wonderful character designs are even hand-drawn anime cutscenes are all things I love. I feel like this one was definitely made with a specific audience in mind, for sure
Great review Alex! You articulated the design flaws really well. It's a shame because this game had so much potential.
And this is coming from someone who's a fan of Secret of Mana as well! Heck, I bought the 3D remake of that game just to cleanse my palate!
Thanks for the review! Already pre ordered a physical copy to add to the collection. Looks like a fun charming game ala mana style. 👍
Ive been curious about this one and was happy to see you post this!
Glad I was able to deliver on this!
You can shortcut weapon selection to d-pad buttons so you don’t have to pause all the time 🤷🏼♂️
Thank you for the excellent review! I think I'm still seeing things I might enjoy, but I will certainly wait for a big sale to get the game.
Also, at 2:44 you mentioned Zelda here, and the funny thing is the weapon ring reminds me of changing weapons in BOTW! I really liked the mini pause that would provide, but I know for some it disrupted the flow of combat. I also reckon that it's alright if you do it for one character, but having to manage your whole team....eeeh 😅
It certainly works for Link since he's alone! But for a party of three, it becomes a bit too babysit-ey! I'm always on the lookout for real time party based action games for my turn based brethren, but the AI in this is just one big OOF!
@@BacklogBattle Yeah, clunky party control combined with a not so smart AI...what were the devs thinking 😬 This would definitely not convince someone to try an action based battle system >.>
When this video popped up on my sub box I was surprised that I'd just never heard of this game before, but it sounds like I wasn't exactly missing out on much, it doesn't look like anything I'd be too biased in favor of either.
Nice review, very cohesive as always.
Thanks! Tried something new with this one, but I'm pleased to help others out with this one.
This looks like secret of mana x dragalia lost mobile gacha game that's no longer running. I get my copy in tomorrow I can't wait.
Thanks for this review! Personally I wouldn't miss this game, despite its design imperfections. Looking forward to playing 3-player with my two kids as well...🤓🙂🙂
I love FuRyu and their creative but flawed games.
So I'm gonna give it a try.
That's a good perspective to see this through!
I dropped trails of mana (remake) because of the absurd AI of my party members during boss fights, thank you for informing me that I shouldn't buy this one. I'll just go on with the amazing octopath traveler 2.
I actually managed to work with the AI in Trials of Mana! This one is a whole different ball game altogether
Same feeling i get from Redemption Reapers...😢 great missed opportunity
Man, I am so hype for this game
Ah well, kinds good in a way. I was interested in this. Nice to know I wouldn't be missing much by skipping it. Still got Octopath 2 at the moment and new Zelda comes out soon.
Nice review, was on the fence about this one, I'll wait for a sale. Wonder what SuperDerek will have to say about the game, he was really looking forward to it.
I’m eager to watch his review too!
I'm excited to play, but I'm not a huge fan of Co-Op being a few hours in. It means you make someone wait hours before they can play. Or you do it solo, and your co-op partner misses out on the story.
Overall I'm excited about the game play and art style. Will definitely pick this up.
i dont understand how Co-op works in the game. Can you explain me ?
I wanted to try it before seeing this review
Now I am no longer have the desire to do so lol
Thanks Alex
Another game that could’ve been. Sigh*
Stamina sounds like in old school D&D. With this I won't be several games behind though.
if you're looking for couch co-op rpgs, have you tried haven yet?
Excellent review! Definitely worth picking up!
Yeah not my thing then, I was curious, but for starter... I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for that but if there is one 16-Bit era JRPG for which I never understood the love for it's Secret of Mana, I played it and think it was average at best, I don't understand how people place this game even remotely close to the like of Chrono Trigger or the SNES Final Fantasy, to each there own I guess.
And from what you're telling me here this looks like a game that isn't worth considering if you didn't like Secret of Mana in the first place.
That's all correct! I do have a follow-up video that I'm planning to release next week about Secret of Mana and Trinity Trigger. Should be an interesting one!
3 player local coop, that's literally all we need haha
I got the game for $40 through Best Buy. I had a $10 promotional Gift Card and a $10 promotional Store Credit to use. Can we just talk though about how the physical version of the game comes with an artbook, 2 disc soundtrack, AND a freaking manual!?!
That’s a great deal!
Aw, I was so looking forward to this. Shame to hear it's a disappointment. Thanks for the review!
You're welcome! It never pleases me to deliver bad news like this
Thanks for another entertaining in depth review Alex!
You’re welcome! -Soma Yukihira
Darn. It looks like they should taken a page from Ys battle and party system
No worries. A patch will resolve all these issues.
I’d like to think so. But the Japanese release hasn’t seen any of these issues addressed, and it’s been about six months since release
I can't wait to play this co-op with my girlfriend this weekend!
I might still give this a go since it was on my list in the first place, but my God it looks and sounds painfully slow.
Thanks for the review though!
I was hoping for this game to be excellent when I first heard about it. But then I saw who the developers were and saw what their game development history is. Mediocre is being kind to the devs.
Most of it sounds all right. My main concern is the healing as a free action. I'm not a fan of games where you can heal at any time without sacrificing anything but an item. In classic turn-based RPGs, you had to use a turn to heal. In more contemporary action RPGs, you often need to go through a brief period of vulnerability while you quaff the healing item.
Unless it's impossible to stockpile healing items, there should be some time cost that keeps a massive stockpile of healing items from completely breaking the game. This game seems very breakable.
Feels like dragalia lost, and I love it
If it had some sort of magic system I think I would be more interested... but as it stands now I think I'll have to pass.
Got a mediocre reception here in Japan
It looks good and I was hoping it wasn’t . Thankye
This sounds a lot like that game Oninaki. "Fun but flawed".
Nice, how does it compare to Furyu other games? What about the story
1. It's better than other FuRyu games, but not by much
2. Story wasn't memorable for me. I usually sum up the premise of a game's story, but felt it was more important to capture what the gameplay will feel like for people and focus on that, mainly because people will be dealing with that more than the story.
How does this compare with the Trials of Mana remake?
I personally enjoyed the Trials of Mana remake more
@@BacklogBattle It was my birthday gift September 2020.. This looks somewhat similar by the footage
@@Mintcar923 Definitely check out the OOF chapter in this review so you can see the differences. The stamina system is a huge difference.
Great video. Will watch for a decent sale or game pass/ps plus to play though
Thanks for watching!
Good review. I was split on getting this might hold off. Anyone have any suggestions of games like this that I can play with my two kids ?
I actually bought the 3D remake of Secret of Mana! Also, the Collection of Mana, with the original Secret of Mana and Trials of Mana are all good!
@@BacklogBattle I’ll check them out and wait for this to go on sale then. I’m trying to get them into RPGs they don’t seem to like traditional ones so I’m hoping this can ease them in
😃👍
Sad that FuRyu games appear like I'm not missing much.
It looks empty.
Secret of mana snes had adjustable ai.
Hmm, having to change weapons, like to whip across gaps, was always annoying in Secret of Mana.
I’ll get this game when it’s on sale and maybe by then they’ll have straightened out some of the issues.
Great review
One to skip - but how had I never even heard of it before now?
I honestly hadn't heard of it until Davidvinc made a video on it!
Looks like a mobile game. Was it a port?
It is not a mobile game or a port! Isn't that crazy?
Is this game 100% eng dubbed?
It is not. There are still portions of the game that have no voice acting at all
I already knew that this game was not that good, because the majority of review from Japanese user were quite negatice ahah.
"co-op"... "local" instant nope all my friend gamers live way too far nobody in my area would want to play a game like this. That part of the appeal falls flat here
Remote Play is a thing
Heard this game is a janky mess.
It looks like a really boring, dry version of secret of mana :(
Quero muito jogar esse jogo no Switch. 🥹🤠