Big Country - Where The Rose Is Sown (The Tube 5.10.1984)

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  • @Wez666
    @Wez666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Steeltown is one of the greatest albums of all time. Wish I gotten to see them live. RIP Stuart. You are missed beyond measure

    • @bv3bv334
      @bv3bv334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A desert island disc.

    • @elspethcraigie6269
      @elspethcraigie6269 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still males me cry all these years later

    • @trevorcostello2057
      @trevorcostello2057 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You said it. Great album.

  • @kenspedding4594
    @kenspedding4594 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Best band I ever saw play live.
    RIP Stuart

    • @ianjackson5128
      @ianjackson5128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ken spedding you are not on your own there, brilliant

    • @garyhignett3632
      @garyhignett3632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Only 156 likes for this vid. Disappointing. Outstanding live gig wish I was there

    • @frankstared
      @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Perhaps the greatest 'folk'-rock outfit ever. Uncompromising and yet they sung about the plight of the oppressed. Nowadays (and most bands back then, too) they sing about a bloody Rolex, cars, drugs and nonsensical materialism. Quite sad how low things have sunk.

  • @chemicalangel17
    @chemicalangel17 6 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Still miss Stuart's haunting vocals. Fan from the very beginning. Still play my LP's

    • @marleybu7984
      @marleybu7984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, me too. 😀

    • @stephenmccarthy102
      @stephenmccarthy102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And his superb guitar playing, very unique

    • @davecoalwood9487
      @davecoalwood9487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great Band and probably undiscovered by too many people who would absolutely love them.

    • @mickmcdonagh1557
      @mickmcdonagh1557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah miss Stuart Adamson big time ..

  • @diggers7169
    @diggers7169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    “Our name will never die, this time will be forever”
    True story...

  • @davidmason7765
    @davidmason7765 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So many levels of meaning in this. Honour to the fallen but also layers of, is any of this actually a good idea. Also one of best bass sounds ever.

    • @davecoalwood9487
      @davecoalwood9487 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've often thought that Mate- Tony's bass really sets this lot's sound apart from other 80s rock bands. ❤ love them. Amazing live.

  • @frankstared
    @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Loved it back in 84', and fawking love it more today.
    Thank you, lads, for singing about the plight of the small folk.

  • @OCOrbits
    @OCOrbits 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    BC has many great songs but there is something incredibly special about this one.

  • @bikelawbloke
    @bikelawbloke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Immense - all four musicians are cruelly underate in my view: all distinctive, exceptional and way more competent instrumentalists than the majority of their peers and most of the rubbish we’ve heard since. As a bass player I’ve always been fascinated by Tony Butler’s lines - I’m not sure how widely known how weird they seem for a band like this but they work beautifully when on the face of them, they probably shouldn’t!!
    One of my all time favourite bands and this is in my Top 5 of their songs. Wonderful!

    • @jasonayres
      @jasonayres 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In my early teens,on my first drum kit,I literally studied Big Country. My teacher was a jazz musician,and taught me syncopation,and there was something about BC that I'm glad to this day,that I related to at the time. That drumming could have fit into a military brass band.
      There was the Gaelic thing going on,too. My grandfather like bagpipe music,and I 'heard' the bagpipes in many BC tunes.
      I've quietly wondered over the years (-quite frankly,because I've got nobody else that interested,in mulling over this sort of thing with-) why a local philharmonic orchestra hasn't reconstructed their songs,as has been the case with other people.
      One of my favourite songs of theirs,too.

    • @frankstared
      @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Underrated? Not to those who grew up during that time and had half a brain, a beating heart and one ear. Mark and Tony were peerless studio musicians even before they joined BC. And Stuart was a recognized savant perhaps even before the Skids. Their relevance is not only rooted in their musicianship but moreso in their indelible social justice and equity lyrics and messaging. Still peerless decades after release.

    • @markheidema3699
      @markheidema3699 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All 4 members have a unique style that makes the entire band a gem to listen too. I'm glad that no one has copied B.C. since.

    • @robruitenberg4064
      @robruitenberg4064 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeh good take - i was blow away by them in 84- 85 didn't like all of their tracks but the ones i did were brilliant porroh man lingered chance. jut a shadow brilliant beautiful tracks and you're right that base player is fhukcing great and you're right at 54 now i can perceive the brilliance of these musicians fucking beautiful.

    • @davecoalwood9487
      @davecoalwood9487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tony is what sets them out. Amazing Bass Player and Band...This Lot and Level stand out by Miles as THE 80s Bands!❤❤

  • @andydinwoodie1497
    @andydinwoodie1497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I remember watching this, I was 15 at the time, and now 35 years later it still sounds fkin brilliant. Lucky enough to see Big Country a few times back in the day.

    • @frankstared
      @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Incomparable. They are a singular unique band whose lyrics have only grown more relevant, while their musicianship remains peerless. Art that does not serve social justice and economic equity is not art; it is propaganda.

  • @josephinezedda663
    @josephinezedda663 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Rest in peace..beautiful and tormented soul😢love this band from the beginning❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @davidg.9932
    @davidg.9932 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    22 years ago we lost Stuart. 16 December 2001 Honolulu, Hawaii
    A few miles from where I live.. Best Western Plaza Hotel
    I was a fan of BC from the beginning.. I was in disbelief..

  • @koekelkoekoek6738
    @koekelkoekoek6738 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Our name will never die, this time will be forever

  • @MobiusBandwidth
    @MobiusBandwidth ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the music, the lyrics, the forest of intertwining guitar parts at the end, with that heart-breakingly beautiful, simple nursery rhyme Celtic melody at the end, no man has ever written music more powerful than this anti-war masterpiece. This song is like Stonehenge, it seems like it must have been here forever.

    • @davecoalwood9487
      @davecoalwood9487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a great comment Big Man ❤

    • @daletomaselli4480
      @daletomaselli4480 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Let's not forget the fantastic drumming of Mark and that thumping bass of Tony.
      Loved them all from Day 1.

  • @ianmcclellan7695
    @ianmcclellan7695 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    One of my Big Country favourites.

    • @kulvichana
      @kulvichana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mine too!!!! Loved you Stuart.....gone to to sooon, evergreen and beautiful forever RIP

  • @johnny5805
    @johnny5805 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is (from the listener's point of view) a Tony Butler song. His massive bass line really brings the song to life - even though he had to simplify it a little live because he was singing backing vocals at the same time.

  • @simonbowles6910
    @simonbowles6910 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great band, great tune , proper underestimated , fucking loved em

  • @loutiscrive
    @loutiscrive 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    still an astonishing song

  • @dominicbuhagiar986
    @dominicbuhagiar986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm from malta and yes i miss him too

  • @euroamtey
    @euroamtey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of their best. Powerful, still stays with me after all these years.

  • @KOSMICKEN09
    @KOSMICKEN09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was listening to this song on a walk earlier and it got me emotional.. And Steve Lillywhite boy did he produce a lot of great records around this time ..

    • @frankstared
      @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's was Stuart's point: he wanted the emotions to open the door to social and economic justice.

  • @marleybu7984
    @marleybu7984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Two stunning Yammies. What a sound, best guitars ever made IMHO. And three folk wi nae taste.

    • @jonathanbarton1062
      @jonathanbarton1062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes they were so popular in the 80s I had an sg 1000

  • @Brettsforehead
    @Brettsforehead 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have this cranked in my garage ... start pretending i can sing like Stuart ... then came the waterworks... greetin ' like a wain. Ferfsakes. Why'd ya have to go man.

  • @Agg1E91
    @Agg1E91 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am glad live performances like this exist from the 80s and 90s. Its the only way you can hear songs that haven't undergone the inevitable mid-2000s remaster. And suddenly every single instance on youtube is that remaster and all other studio recordings automagically disappear, never to return. Sometimes someone will over-air record an LP or Cassette or maybe early CD issue which usually will thwart the coming of the algorithm and it's mandatory updates. But those are often difficult to stumble across because they are purposefully not obviously named.

  • @brettmclaren2748
    @brettmclaren2748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your name will never die ...big country legends

  • @johnmhearton3986
    @johnmhearton3986 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mark Brzezicki one of my biggest drumming influences and one of the reasons I started playing in 1985

  • @angelacomandu5890
    @angelacomandu5890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Big Country continuano a mancarmi. Quasi 40 anni dal primo concerto a cui ho partecipato a Milano, eppure la loro musica ha ancora il sapore di un gol andato a segno.
    Stuart, manchi troppo 😞

  • @frankstared
    @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Played, while dancing, virtually identically to the studio version. They were gods live.

    • @gmansi
      @gmansi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES 👍

  • @michaelbragg6903
    @michaelbragg6903 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Another incredible song and performance by Big Country!

    • @francishegarty8087
      @francishegarty8087 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So true, Their talent was so good, spine tingling hair raising stuff, absolutely brilliant Band.

  • @barryellis8646
    @barryellis8646 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All great musicians, but what a rhythm section that was !!

  • @MsROCKAPE
    @MsROCKAPE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Saw them at Murray field many moons ago what a fucking concert r.i.p stu gone not forgotten

  • @peterstayne3765
    @peterstayne3765 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All the best musicians are born in Manchester

  • @raniergenz
    @raniergenz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stu will always be my great Idol in music, surely

  • @rashedala-uddin9012
    @rashedala-uddin9012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    11 April: Happy Birthday Stuart Adamson.
    Always missed.

  • @davidkelly5899
    @davidkelly5899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Steel Town. Legend.

  • @dianegodbout2356
    @dianegodbout2356 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wow, 40 years have passed..

  • @bv3bv334
    @bv3bv334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One thing about a Big Country gig....the lads always seem to really, really fucking enjoy playing.

  • @colingeddes2172
    @colingeddes2172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Still sounds brilliant nearly 40 years later. Stuart adamson musical maestro. Gone far too soon.

  • @davetrave3557
    @davetrave3557 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fabulous!! Love Big Country..

  • @damianmcdonagh7908
    @damianmcdonagh7908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw them live in November 1986. Great show.

  • @jackiebrown7229
    @jackiebrown7229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely love this song live 💖

  • @marleybu7984
    @marleybu7984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    18 years... miss you Stuart 💔

    • @davidg.9932
      @davidg.9932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stuart would have turned 63 today..11 April 1958 Manchester - 16 December 2001 Honolulu.
      He took his own like a few miles from where I live.. So sad. We you Love Stuart..

  • @markheidema3699
    @markheidema3699 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the most powerful songs ever made.

    • @MobiusBandwidth
      @MobiusBandwidth ปีที่แล้ว +2

      absolutely. musically as well as lyrically.

  • @mixtapemaster1985
    @mixtapemaster1985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This song is an absolute anthem! Love it!

  • @Robbie-n1d
    @Robbie-n1d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Better days wish we could go back .but at least we have the footage to watch

  • @HermanWaldorf
    @HermanWaldorf หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am from Italy, I managed to see the Alarm on 2nd of Feb, 2016 and Big Country on 26th Sept 2016, both in Milan. I am a lucky person.

  • @klseytron
    @klseytron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    all the love

  • @simonbowles6910
    @simonbowles6910 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Lay me where the rose is sown

  • @georgesmith6969
    @georgesmith6969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was at the barrowland concert at new year, absolutely amazing,one of the nest gigs I've ever seen

  • @gilmarmarroquin1706
    @gilmarmarroquin1706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We're at war All the papers say
    We will win I read today
    We are strong It wasn't us
    We are right Who started this?
    Leave your work I just left school
    Leave your home I am no fool
    Take up arms It left me strong
    Sound alarms The school bell rings
    Sons of men who stand like gods
    We give life to feed the cause
    And run to ground our heathen foe
    Our name will never die
    This time will be forever
    Join up here I wave goodbye
    We need you Oh my breast sighs
    Have no fear I must try
    God will be with braver men
    Take the vow I know its right
    Praise the flag The good fight
    We're at war I'm on my way
    We will win Why do I pray?
    Sons of men who stand like gods
    We give life to feed the cause
    And run to ground our heathen foe
    Our name will never die
    This time will be forever
    I wait here in this hole
    Playing poker with my soul
    I hold the rifle close to me
    It lights the way to keep me free
    If I die in a combat zone
    Box me up and ship me home
    If I die and still come home
    Lay me where the rose is sown
    Sons of men who stand like gods
    We give life to feed the cause
    And run to ground our heathen foe
    Our name will never die
    This time will be forever

    • @frankstared
      @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People get caught up by the musicianship but the real power was in Stuart's lyrics, lyrics defined by values that the band on some level also believed in. And those values were social and economic justice. This tune rips away the facade of nationalism and exposes war and oppression for what they are: tools exploited by the cynical and nihilistic powerful to keep the rich rich and poor poor.

    • @filobeto1691
      @filobeto1691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said sir.

  • @basiljh
    @basiljh 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still a timeless tune, I make sure to listen to this and Dire Straits 'Brothers in Arms' every Remembrance Day to honour those who made the ultimate sacrifice

  • @bargainbassist
    @bargainbassist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the most perfect musical and emotional segues is the one between “Where the Rose Is Sown” and “Come Back To Me” on the Steeltown album. If I’m listening to BC on random play, I always have to make a exception for those 2 songs by playing them in their original sequence.

    • @gmansi
      @gmansi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good tip

    • @iainmacrae6982
      @iainmacrae6982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Always found that transition absolutely brilliant. The change from ‘The Seer’ to ‘The Teacher’ is also very well done

  • @buckjones9478
    @buckjones9478 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    AMaZING SONG!❤️❤️❤️

  • @heinkoelen
    @heinkoelen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great memories

  • @davecoalwood9487
    @davecoalwood9487 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Suzzaneira
    @Suzzaneira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    R.I.P. Stuart!!

    • @davidg.9932
      @davidg.9932 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stuart would have turned 63 today..11 April 1958 Manchester - 16 December 2001 Honolulu.
      He took his own like a few miles from where I live.. So sad. We you Love Stuart..

    • @jonathanhadley2555
      @jonathanhadley2555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      dave griego Would have been about month older than Paul Weller, really sad:-(

  • @gmansi
    @gmansi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bass at the end!

  • @Pancho1599
    @Pancho1599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great riff 😵 i wish that I have be there 🤧 I’m 23

  • @simonbowles6910
    @simonbowles6910 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I die in a combat zone , fucking great band

  • @stefets
    @stefets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible ! 😍

  • @luvGod21
    @luvGod21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    amazing

  • @rashedala-uddin8157
    @rashedala-uddin8157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That drum outro ... superb.

    • @frankstared
      @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brzezinski is among the finest percussionists of any era.

  • @brighteyes8474
    @brighteyes8474 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think it is about The Falklands War. Great song.

    • @dbc1dc
      @dbc1dc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was Fields of Fire. More about all war in general. It is a GREAT song, my favorite of theirs.

    • @frankstared
      @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dbc1dc Yes, a cutting diatribe against war. The first three albums were thematically tied.

  • @barrybray1839
    @barrybray1839 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best version of this song was recorded live at camden lock DINGWALLS the album is called BIG COUNTRY ELECTRIC it's on youtube...

  • @geordieexile6236
    @geordieexile6236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loved stuart...but Bruce Watson. ...surely the most underrated/underappreciated guitarist of a generation.

  • @SenseiMiyagi
    @SenseiMiyagi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NO NEED TO...BIG UP!
    We all know, what they meant to everyone, back then, and now!❤

  • @morningsnoopy
    @morningsnoopy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the days of brilliant bands & good live music shows - tho I guess health & safety wouldn't allow crowds bundling like that today, let alone hanging off all that scaffolding, looks like great fun tho x

    • @jackiebrown7229
      @jackiebrown7229 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ken, health and bleeding safety ruined a the fun!

    • @frankstared
      @frankstared 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Och, come now. We can quite enjoy great music and be safe, too.

  • @ozrics62
    @ozrics62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this Newcastle please transport me there my fave City and band

  • @stuartbrown3758
    @stuartbrown3758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the fortune of seeing BC with Stuart 3 times. The last time I knew he wasn’t himself.

  • @stuartadamson1911
    @stuartadamson1911 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    god

  • @marleybu7984
    @marleybu7984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Phenomenal.. like Irn Bru

    • @seasider15
      @seasider15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marley Bu made from girders

  • @poppyhimbo
    @poppyhimbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mark just ripping it up

  • @padraigsisk4057
    @padraigsisk4057 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a band especially live. Only The Stereophonics now can come near

  • @poppyhimbo
    @poppyhimbo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mark tearing it up

  • @broken.weeaboo
    @broken.weeaboo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Same.

  • @AmyJuneful
    @AmyJuneful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The guy at 4:12 is really handsome. Big Country will forever be my favorite band. And NOT just because of the guy at 4:12.

    • @noelmurphy406
      @noelmurphy406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good to see u haven’t lost your eye for it 😉 It’s like riding a bike, u never lose it 💥

    • @jehugo66
      @jehugo66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂

    • @DominiqueGarofalo
      @DominiqueGarofalo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The one in the red shirt?

    • @AmyJuneful
      @AmyJuneful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DominiqueGarofalo yes!!

    • @AmyJuneful
      @AmyJuneful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DominiqueGarofalo Yes!! So handsome.

  • @derekormsby3682
    @derekormsby3682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've goat a stonner!

  • @Eric-kn4yn
    @Eric-kn4yn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Golda meir b.ukraine feared the cossacks and cried when her mother fed the last spoon of gruel to her sister went to Israel and lived with the hardy pioneers cultivating the desert g- d bless here

  • @michaelhowitt1318
    @michaelhowitt1318 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gone too soon what happened stu

  • @stephenroche5107
    @stephenroche5107 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That selfish get on the shoulders i'd have told you to get down still annoying today when at a gig think of the people behind you paying money but having to stare at your arse !

    • @ptj767
      @ptj767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      inmyday a can in the back of the head would have sorted it

  • @grimandi
    @grimandi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This could be Ukraine's song (Mariupol) for Steel Town.

  • @adrianwatson5462
    @adrianwatson5462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As much as I appreciate a band like Oasis, they are not fit to lick these boys boots

  • @punnsi7734
    @punnsi7734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fuck war.

    • @billybobbob3003
      @billybobbob3003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as long as man has existed there has been war and it will never end its just life.

    • @punnsi7734
      @punnsi7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess it's alright then. Fuck slavery?

  • @robruitenberg4064
    @robruitenberg4064 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a shitty band

  • @chrispetty4574
    @chrispetty4574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree 👍💯 big country is greatest band ever

  • @chrispetty4574
    @chrispetty4574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree 👍💯 big country is the best band ever

  • @69ackers
    @69ackers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it !!

  • @halenbud
    @halenbud 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We're at war All the papers say
    We will win I read today
    We are strong It wasn't us
    We are right Who started this?
    Leave your work I just left school
    Leave your home I am no fool
    Take up arms It left me strong
    Sound alarms The school bell rings
    Sons of men who stand like gods
    We give life to feed the cause
    And run to ground our heathen foe
    Our name will never die
    This time will be forever
    Join up here I wave goodbye
    We need you Oh my breast sighs
    Have no fear I must try
    God will be with braver men
    Take the vow I know its right
    Praise the flag The good fight
    We're at war I'm on my way
    We will win Why do I pray?
    Sons of men who stand like gods
    We give life to feed the cause
    And run to ground our heathen foe
    Our name will never die
    This time will be forever
    I wait here in this hole
    Playing poker with my soul
    I hold the rifle close to me
    It lights the way to keep me free
    If I die in a combat zone
    Box me up and ship me home
    If I die and still come home
    Lay me where the rose is sown
    Sons of men who stand like gods
    We give life to feed the cause
    And run to ground our heathen foe
    Our name will never die
    This time will be forever