Bill and Lorraine sounded like such strong people, they put up a fight and nearly escaped him. May they rest in peace and all of the rest of this disgusting man’s victims
@@cici.ngxengehonestly it’s the same way people are able to kill animals just cranked up to the extreme if you’re not used to killing an animal you might feel bad but imagine those seasoned hunters especially those who hunt for sports they enjoy it to these types of serial killers human life isn’t above an animals it’s just a harder animal to hunt and kill
@@Nara-tm5xz exactly, one year late but people who kill for sport disgust me. It's sick to take a life 'for the fun of it' and definitely desensitizes you to the whole concept of death itself
Right and even though she told us they had no family, it was still super sad to hear the house got demolished and they were more than likely trash. It’s a pleasant thing to know they had each other in their lives, even through death, they were there for each other in their dying moments.
I know it must've been unfathomably horrifying, but I'm so happy that they made it as difficult as possible for him to get his victims. Like, they fought HARD
I kept hesitating to start this one because I knew Sam… lots of memories with her and even though I’m into true crime it’s so so so different when your friend literally gets murdered by a serial killer. Sam had the most infectious laugh and I always remember her as bubbly but tough. 😢
Crazy to see people so pressed over her not posting for a while. Y'all are receiving this content for free, you aren't owed anything. I want her back too, but being rude and demanding isn't how we get things. Most people grow out of that phase when they hit age 4.
Right? People really don’t realize how mentally taxing these types of videos are to film. It takes a toll on me just listening them. I can only imagine how much it affects her.
@@ami2..20you’re not the reason for anything 💀 get off your high horse. She makes the videos. She makes the content you obviously enjoy. She is the reason her bills get paid. Imagine being so toxic you go after a youtuber you enjoy when they miss a few videos. Grow up
the fact he made so many stupid mistakes with Samantha (using her bank card, abducting her from his home town, etc.) almost makes me think he WANTED to get caught, especially since he asked for the death penalty. It's almost as if he was getting tired of his 'lifestyle' and wanted to go out in a blaze of glory or smth
Samantha bf not shit nor smart. Tired of people and dating lame unintelligent weak men.what man sees someone shuffle into their vehicle on their property after receiving a cryptic message from a loved one and dna finger prints all over your shxt etc she led him there for a reason, the bf fortunately witnessed in time, and unfortunately didn’t take the baton. L . his weak ass just stood there probably thinking “hmm I see man in my car wonder what that’s about”
He probably got cocky and bored of getting away with it so easily and got complacent. Makes me wonder about the similar people out there who stuck to the plan like he did, never got complacent and never got caught
Nah I don't think so. When you make it that long in the game without getting caught or receiving any serious consequences, you'll be bound to make some careless mistakes. The biggest tell for me was when he was pulled over for speeding after leaving a hotel in his white Ford focus, and he appeared very anxious. If you want to get caught, and die in a grand way, he would be calm. I guess you could say it's all an act to make cops think- no that wouldn't make any sense. Being calm would work in his interest. I don't know, but I doubt that.
@@rebekahmk6794 YES!!!! I was gonna say I just watched Danielle’s video about this but am I going to watch this two hour long story again? YES OF COURSE gotta support our true crime babes!!!
One more thing about that first girl. Letting her go changed him. He said that he always regretted letting her get to him, and letting her go. She really was lucky! He also studied many serial killers to find out how they got caught, and what they did wrong, so he didn’t do the same things. That’s why he was so prepared, and never killed in his area. That’s another reason why it’s so crazy that he went against all his rules for the last murder.
I feel like while she does a series that is very adult themed, we have to remember she is still a young girl. It’s hard to see this point because she is extremely mature for her age. She is good at what she does and while we enjoy her/her series we need to remember she has a younger lifestyle and needs to maintain her friendships and freedom.
The most terrifying to me is that he didn’t have a type (minus children). He chose his victims at a whim. It’s horrifying to know that because everyone is a potential target.
When Eleanor said she’d never heard of tubing I was like oh wow I guess that isn’t a thing in the UK but then she pulled out “rubber dingy rapids” and I absolutely died
TBH, that is the term that we use for those small-ish two, maybe three person inflatable 'boats''/rafts that come with plastic paddles that you bring to or buy at the beach here in Canada. We call them dingies. Even if they are more robust and have engines like police river patrol boats or small rescue craft used in big scale rescues. We still call 'em dingies.
The fact that his parents were angrier with him being an atheist than the fact that he would torture animals and shoot at people’s houses with their guns 💀 priorities
looking at Bill and Lorraine was so heartbreaking. I knew what was coming and I still felt sick knowing what he did to them. They look like such good, happy people. Sooo tragic. Especially Lorraine almost running away. Abhorrent
I remember feeling so scared when Samantha went missing because coffee huts on nearly every corner in Anchorage, and there are so many young women and girls who work at these coffee huts. It hit way too close to home to have this happen in my city. When I was a junior in high school, the lead detective in Samantha's case came to my school and gave a presentation explaining how she caught Israel. The part that really stuck with me was how he sent "proof of life" pictures long after she was dead, which meant that he had to make her body look like she was still alive. That's just disgusting. I am so angry that he killed himself in prison because he deserved to live in a locked box for the rest of his miserable life.
I remember seeing all the green ribbons on the lamp posts near her side of town when she went missing. So sad. When I started working at a coffee hut near Dimond, my boss actually would offer to pay for us to get our concealed carry, and he would bring up Samantha as a reason why. Boss dude was a major asshole, but he cared lol. I had friends who worked at some huts during the time of her kidnapping and they were all on edge.
I am pretty sure I was attacked by Israel Keyes in Olympia, WA in 2005-2006. I was a student at TESC and it settled in a rainforest...a lot of dense Evergreen trees for miles and miles. I was walking home after dark to the apartments on campus and this guy who appeared to be out for a run asked me which way a certain street was, I pointed him towards where he was asking about, and kept walking. A couple of minutes later he attacked me from behind, tried to cover my mouth and pull me off the trail and deeper into the trees. Luckily someone had their window open and he ran off. I saw Israel Keyes picture once he was captured and the whole story came out -- my blood went cold. I to this day, believe I survived this guy. Fun fact: The parking lot I was walking home from was the same one that Ted Bundy abducted a victim from, and this is also something one of the responding officers felt appropriate to mention while I was in my dorm and they were taking a report.
Right so the cops said that to someone that was just attacked and despite him grabbing you they didn't connect Israel Keyes to it even tho DNA evidence existed in 2005-2006? Don't lie about this man that's fucked up
It actually kind of makes sense for both girlfriends to believe he was just leaving for business trips because they probably also wonder where he got the money to pay for all of those plane tickets. If they were business trips, he certainly wouldn’t be paying for them. His work would pay for them. And I’m sure they certainly weren’t suspecting he was robbing people. I might be missing information since I’m only halfway through the video. 44:05
I work for a septic company. They sometimes don't get emptied for YEARS. Decades in some cases. Problem is, you can't really open one. It's only usually a 20ish inch cover that's removed to suck out the waste. The picture shown was actually a distribution box, not a septic tank. The average tank hold about 1000 gallons or more of waste or septage.
@@sem5768 it is, and our technicians know what you've been eating based on what sucks out of the tank, grease, heavy solids, wet wipes and "flushable" wipes which aren't really flushable. They do not break down. We recently had a customer that owned her home since 1992 that was a new build and was never pumped. 31 years of septage! Every system is different, but from what I understand most modern systems would be extremely difficult to get a human or any other large body into it. It's not impossible but uncommon and difficult to access. Cesspools on the other hand are a different story. They are basically obsolete. Either way, very gross.
I love your videos :( I've been watching your videos since like 2018. Recently, (July 2022), my friend was murdered. His name was Jacob Michael Hills, one of my closeted friends. I don't know if you can, but if you can, please make a video covering his case. His story needs to be heard, and you're the only one I can really think of that would tell this story in a beautiful way. Even if you don't, just reading this comment does enough for me :( thank you so much
This story made me cry. That poor couple. I can’t imagine how horrifying and terrifying everything was, can’t believe they actually had to go through that. I can’t believe how someone could be so heinous to another human, to people they don’t even know.
@☻ AwhEleanor !! ★ yes but not because they're short but because she was more professional. None of this dramatic music or intense pauses. She speaks more professional and doesn't talk as crazy or excessive.
when it comes to the family/spouses, i really believe many of them dont actually know whats going on. because even if you think your spouse is acting strange, it is a HUGE leap to then think "oh hes murdering people." Like that is not a logical thought you would have. Like say you were ordering coffee in a coffee shop and the barista was acting strange. you may suspect that they are messing with your drink, but then they turn around and hand you a monkey. like how were you ever supposed to know that they had a monkey. it doesnt make logical sense for that to be something youd suspect. I imagine its probably the same kind of deal when someone you love and trust turns out to be a monster. you might suspect them of being shady and cheating or stealing/lying but MURDER? i dont think most of us would go there without explicit proof.
If you can, I’d love to see you cover the case of Penny Pratt. It’s a case from Australia and one that was handled so terribly and she deserves to have her story told.💕
I think it’s really interesting the texts he sent from Samantha’s phone, and the point you made about it. His lack of empathy and understanding of human emotion and concern was part of his downfall. He perhaps wouldn’t think “This will worry them” because perhaps he didn’t understand how that worked- saw it as a cold lie that made logical sense, didn’t think about it emotionally
Sadly as it is, the Police & FBI really should have been more willing to cooperate with him. What he did was ABSOLUTELY disgusting & horrible, he got what he deserved (ultimately), however they could have gotten loads more information if they would have just been willing to do the two things he asked (ABSOLUTELY NOT defending him at ALL). The Police just have this mentality that they are gonna get what they want & the inmate/suspect is gonna give it to them bc they said.
@@dianner5148it was confirmed that he was cooperating with police once they gave him what he wanted “he wanted cigs, and then he started talking” yea so he would have
i noticed you said the photo of samantha was never released, and the photo you showed is a recreation, but i’ve always read online that the photo you showed was the REAL photo of her. i’m glad it’s not the real one, it was really upsetting for me the first time i saw it online
The reenactment of the ransom photo is just so disturbing. I can’t imagine what the real one was like. I’ve listened to many podcasts/TH-cam videos about him, and I still get sick to my stomach over this case.
Elanor, please you need to talk about this recent case. in my home country Serbia, a 13/14 year old child committed school shooting and hurt and killed a lot of people. At first, it was though it's because of a grade, but its actually much worse than everyone thought, especially the fact that this wasn't his first time killing someone.
Oh wow I am so sorry to hear about the shooting. Can't imagine how stressful and scary that would be, especially if it's recent. Hope you're keeping safe, internet stranger! I think Eleanor has an email that you can perhaps contact and request her coverage of the shooting, but I'm not 100% EDIT: Yep! It's in the description of this video
I’ve heard his case in depth but it never ceases to shock and horrify. Thank you again Eleanor for another great video, we love and appreciate your efforts!
cases like these are absolutely horrid but at the same time so interesting. He was a horrible person and it's so scary to think what if he had never been caught? what if he didn't break his one rule? love love love the movie long videos eleanor makes, they're always the scariest yet most interesting cases
@jessicaaitken8858 I know this is a late reply, but what they might mean is seeing It from a sociological or psychological perspective. Basically, the "what ifs" in different outcomes that could've happened
the bill and Lorain story shattered me when i saw the photos considering how similar Bill looks to my dad. scared me a litte. thank you for this amazing video. may all those souls who lost their lives to this horrific man rest peacefully 🙏🏻🕊️🤍
I will Never Forget being 11 and watching Samantha's story go live on the local news. THIS is why I will never hesitate to look out for my sisters in public. This man is a Monster and had no right taking this girl or anybody else's lives.
An ex-friend of mines son (8 years old) I witnessed throwing frogs as hard as possible against a fence trying to kill them. Her and her family were just sitting there acting like it was normal behavior. I totally freaked out and yelled for him to stop and his mom got super pissed at me and wouldn’t look at me the rest of the day. There was other weird things I’ve witnessed from her and she would randomly snap at me (like a bad behaved teenager.) Anyways- I’m very worried her son will go on to be a murderer or just very evil person.
Ew, I'd be worried too! I'm glad you stepped in, and I'm glad you're not her friend anymore considering the way she treated you. Unfortunate that she wouldn't listen to you. She'll have a lot to deal with later if there is something that's going untreated in her child. I hope that's not the case but.. I can't quite see a normal kid treating frogs like water balloons.
That's a good thing that you said something, probably wouldn't hurt to send them a message just to drive home the point that its messed up their kid was doing it
Seriously please report that. Even if nothing happens, maybe they'll send someone to the house to check the situation and maybe that would be a wake up call for her.
@@mobee9181 wow what a sick family. There are also cases of parents ignoring bad behavior or enabling it, thinking that is good parenting, not it is not! The kids would grow up to be narcissistic or sociopaths.
I think it's a slippery slope to question whether close family members know about their loved ones being killers or any other type of wrong 'un. The whole psychology of these people is that they can pull the wool over everyone's eyes and can put on a show of being a great person. Also, you went straight from 'did she really not know?' to 'and then they split up and he took his daughter' - mad to assume someone would let their daughter be taken by a person they possibly 'know' is a serial killer!
Sound like he took his daughter she probably didn't let him have her she was prob afraid and financially couldn't win in court who leaves there little girl with a man there leaving like come on.. the fact he had a no kid rule was the only blessing out of this man's cursed ways..his own child prob would of fell victim to his rape rage had he continued to slip away from police..
I have been a subscriber for a long time, but I rarely leave comments. But this video made me realize that you should know how great you are at telling a story, and really making everything clear as opposed to just spitting out facts without any mystery involved. The reason I say this now is because I have read/listened to many accounts about Israel Keyes, but I've always been left with confusion, until now. I often feel this way about your videos, but I have never explained that before and I wanted to let you know because I'm sure that is how everyone must perceive you.
Most serial killers don't want to know anything about their victims. They want a blank slate to project on to. Usually giving as many details about yourself as possible is your best chance at getting let go
One of the most well detailed and put together videos I've seen on Keys, he was a truly awful person. I'm glad he's gone but I feel bad for the families that will never know. Maybe one day with more investigation they can find more information. Samantha's case is horrible to hear but her death caught a killer. She was so brave and fought to the end.
When I found out the police had caught him and he would reveal information I sort of got excited. But then I immediately got sad when you confessed that he had already killed her. I was genuinely hoping she survived.
Thank you for covering this case!! I've lived in Alaska my whole life and it's well known that a lot of people come here to get away. That also includes criminals, unfortunately. It's scary knowing these types of people can unknowingly live minutes away from you. Even scarier is the fact that the coffee shop mentioned is quite literally 4-5 minutes away from the college dorms. Great informative video as always! Cheers from Anchorage, AK✌
Please tell me they don’t let barista’s close alone anymore, when I worked at Starbucks the company policy was always 2 closers in the store at all times because of shit like this :/
As someone who’s also in anchorage its scary me and my partner have talked about how vast and empty the mountains and forests are on the drive to Seward and surrounding the city and how easy it would be for someone to do something out there it’s terrifying and we always make sure we have everything needed just in case we end up breaking down on a long drive
@@scorpoii3837unfortunately most of the tiny coffee house drive through kiosk type buildings we have only have one person working in them at a time they’re tiny and can’t really fit more than one person we have tons of them around the city owned by different people
@@scorpoii3837they still do let women close alone.. they had signs up for a bit telling girls to carry guns while on shift and things like that but it was more of a we warned you so if you work here you’re taking the risk kind of thing.
The Toolbox Murders is the most brutal case I’ve ever heard. I’d love to see you make a video about them. If you’re interested look up these names, Lawrence Bittaker, Roy Norris, and there were four other victims involved but the most well known is Shirley Ledford.
@@isobelrafferty1494 Wait, I'm confused now .. the "Toy-Box-Killer" is named David Parker Ray, but Eleanor didn't make a video about that guy, at least not that I know of ..
@@softpurplebat because toybox killer and toolbox killers are two different cases. They are often confused with each other (as here, by Isobel) due to similarity in names that were given to these cases.
I find the military aspect one of the most fascinating aspects of the case and as much as nothing can explain being a serial killer, there is a lot you can pull out of it. In my personal analysis of his situation I’d say a massive part of the appeal of joining the army would be because it was an outlet for him. He’d never really had a ‘normal’ upbringing and by being forced into a lifestyle where instead of people trying to help with his obvious psychological problems, he was just outcasted for it. This would form a LOT of pent up anger: - anger to his parents for his childhood - anger to his siblings for not having the same issues as him - anger at the people in the church - anger at himself as well However, he had no way to express this. He didn’t have friends to vent to, he didn’t have ways to relax such as TV or books, he didn’t have time away from his thoughts and he barely did anything. So a ton of anger and resentment will have pent up with him. This could also explain how he’d go around shooting things, I reckon he has some sort of need for adrenaline which would explain many of his erratic decisions. I think he probably recognised this around the time when he was 17 or 18 and he wanted to change hinting at his interest in change of religion. But I think at this point he found what, he thought, might be a potential solve for his issues: satanic sacrifices. And that was where that desire came from. Now when he joined the army he had a new outlet, to be in the army you have to workout a lot and you do a fair amount of combat and shooting practices. This probably somewhat settled his violent urges. He was also surrounded by people who potentially also had their own issues. So by being in the army it not only gave him that chaos he so badly needed but also a sense of comfort. It brought back many aspects of his life which he might of enjoyed and put them together: - he had a sense of order and isolation that he’d had in Washington when he was younger - he was allowed to openly fulfill his violent needs - he had a group of people that surrounded him all the time much like his childhood home Whilst many parts of his thought process I cannot comprehend, there are some parts I can understand and unpack, his case is so interesting.
This is the most in depth video on him. I only knew about one of his victims (his most notorious last victim). I did not know he had so many other victims to his name 😔
im a jack manifold viewer so have recently been introduced to your channels and my goshhh i love them so much!!! I've never been into true crime but I absolutely love your content, the way you present cases is so clear and engaging and its fascinating hearing about them all!! love your personal channel as well, one of my fave youtubers now :D ty for being awesome!! much love
Yikes as a former college student who tended to be the only girl in a closing shift I definitely appreciate the managers that would stay and give me a ride home even tho my dorm was basically across the street 😬
I almost skipped this cause I’ve hear his story MANY TIMES… but there was a lot I had NEVER heard and was surprised about. Glad you hooked me in! You did such a good job telling this story. ✌🏻😘🌸
I recently saw another British true crime TH-camr cover this same case. First, you both did an excellent job, as usual. Second, it's amazing that you can both cover the same case and do it in unique ways.
I’m from Alaska, I actually lived down the street from the coffee hut Samantha was taken from and I’ll never forget when this happened, the whole city couldn’t stop talking about it and it was on the news 24/7
Hi! Point of clarification. At 18:23 you show the family's move from Washington to Maine... but the map shows Washington, D.C., not the state of Washington. They moved clear across the United States - much farther!
I will never forget the picture he took of Samantha to prove she was still alive, though she was already deceased. Absolutely horrible! And, he made his way through Humble/Kingwood which is close to me. 😐. RIP Samantha and his other victims.
If it makes you feel any better, the real photo has never been released but some people don't realise it's just a representation. It is really horrible though :(
I’ve been interested in true crime since I was little (because of my mom) so I’ve heard of a lot of crimes, but when I first learned about Israel Keyes, I had to take an extended break from True Crime. This one really badly affected me. Man was insane and diabolical.
Eleanor your videos are always done with reverence and respect for the victims and their families. I know these topics are very difficult to cover and talk about. You truly do an amazing job. Wishing you blessings and peace. You are a wonderfully committed and compassionate person and it shows thru your videos.
Hi Ellie! Just a little clarification on "tubing". There's many different types, but what you are describing is more what we would just call "river floats". Most commonly, tubing is done behind a boat. Like water-skiing or wakeboarding. The tube is hooked up to a rope on the boat and you're pulled behind it and you have to try and hold on. With kids you usually take it a bit more gently, but with adults it's more of a game for the boat driver to see if they can throw the people on the tube...off. So you hit big waves, take sharp turns, go really fast, etc... And for winter tubing, idk, we usually just still call it sledding. Rubber tubes aren't as popular in the snow because a stray branch or rock can easily pop a hole in it.
There's also white water tubing, but that's pretty dangerous Someone in a town near me died doing that and their body was only found the next spring (caught on a rock under a bridge)
Where I’m from, in northern Minnesota, we call floating down the river “tubing”. but we also call going behind a boat in a tube “tubing”, because it’s done with a tube and not skis or knee boards. “Winter tubing” isn’t sledding though because you do it with tubes and not sleds. I’m only clarifying because it depends on who you ask
I tried that type of tubing once when I was young. The next morning I discovered muscles I never before knew I had. Loved it though. But my word I was sore for a week!
the fact that he got pleasure from other's pain makes me believe he didn't want to confess to all his crimes and found it a better option to let these innocent victim's families be in pain from the loss and from not knowing what happened to their loved one. that's truely horrifying
I had a friend visit me here in Anchorage last winter, and it was a shock to her that a lot of the coffee stops in town don’t allow foot traffic, that they make it clear through signage that they carry, that they don’t take cash, stuff like that. And to me, because I’d grown up here I just assumed that’s how coffee stops were around the whole country. I knew a lot of that became standard practice around here because of Samantha’s abduction, but at the same time it just seems like that should’ve been the standard in the first place. I don’t think it was a mistake Samantha was kidnapped from that particular coffee stop either, I mean there’s literally one around every corner here. But that stop in particular, their whole vibe gives me the ick tbh. For the longest time their entire brand centered on their “cute fun Alaska white chick” baristas, plastering their faces on socials and even on the backs of their coffee cards; these women are 100% their main selling point. Then on top of that their baristas were working solo shifts in those tiny shacks with one way in, one way out, in the middle of dark ass Alaskan winters. And it wasn’t until this past year that their branding finally changed. Anyways, obviously the real monster here is the sicko who abducted Samantha, but it’s not like the coffee stop owners did much to protect their employees in the first place. Pisses me off that it took an actual abduction for the business owners to put reasonable safety measures in place. My heart breaks for Samantha and her family, I hope they are doing as well as they can be.
I grew up in Washington and have been to both Colville and Neah Bay. For some reason, both places are so placid, remote, stunningly beautiful, and peaceful that it’s difficult to imagine such horrors happening there. For those who aren’t familiar with those locations, know that he was honing his skills in genuinely REMOTE places. The amount of people he could have killed and had them explained away as hunting accidents or exposure to the elements (or their bodies would never be found in the wilderness at all) is unparalleled in most places in the Lower 48. It truly is possible to get away with murder out there. If someone disappears in an area that remote, the automatic assumption is that an animal got to them or that they got lost in the woods, not that they were killed.
Omg this guy is insane!! I heard about him somewhere else but this one actually frightened me. He traveled all across america committing murder. It makes me wonder if there are others like him. I heard on TikTok there was a murderer that was doing something similar between Dallas, Chicago, and somewhere else I can’t remember but geez… it’s crazy how long they can get away with it before getting caught🙁
remember him not choosing children as his victims is not because he has any sort of moral code…more so that missing/dead children make a lot of noise in media…he definitely knew that, especially having his own.
Having watched 20 years of true crime and even earned a Masters in Forensic Psych, Keyes is the killer that scares me the most. If he hadn't broken his own rules, he would most likely have so many more victims. He would also reportedly dump victims in bodies of water that were unsearchable, meaning no on could dive that far down to retrieve the bodies or evidence and he liked to stake out wilderness areas. You wonder how many Missing 411 cases were actually Keyes' work. So glad he is dead. Super effing evil demon he was. I'm' impressed his daughter has never been identified. Poor girl. If she is even still living, she must live a tortured existence as well. Thanks for the great coverage, Eleanor! You dug up a lot!
I have been waiting to hear someone do this case! It is sooooo crazy how smart and collected this guy was especially with all of his planning and careful execution. I read a book about his case on a road trip and have been fascinated for months! It scares me that someone can be like this and just because of awful luck for him he get caught. Thinking about how someone can be so methodical and careless of his actions while leading a double life. It baffles me and thank you for sharing this awful case! It needs more awareness!!!!
I literally read a book about this about 1 and a half years ago. As soon as I read “murder kits” I immediately knew. That book has stuck with me since.
I have seen several others who have covered this case but I must say, by far, you have done the best. I enjoy your videos and just want to say thank you for all the hard work !!
I've seen this case done with other TH-camrs, but I didn't know he was a serial killer! I either missed them briefly mentioning it, or they didn't mention it at all, I think because they were focused on teaching about Samantha. It's also through this video that I learned about the blood paintings and the fact that her photo was a recreation. Thanks, Eleanor! I'm always learning something new with your videos
I absolutely think he wanted to get caught. There is no reason for all of the stupidity of his last case after he has shown himself to be so careful and patient his whole life.
Lorraine and Bill’s story really stuck with me. why did they go to landfill? were they not ever found? did they not have family looking for them? its so upsetting to me, i hope thats not the case
The fact that if the parents brought him to a therapist or something MAYBE he could’ve been helped and been stopped from killing people… wow. So many red flags ignored and if they didn’t, if they got noticed and talked about it could’ve saved lives
I may have missed key details that disprove this but is it possible that the 11 skulls on the cell wall with the words “we are one” were relating to his 11 family members and not possible victims?
I found your channel few weeks ago and I absolutely love it! I really love your voice and the way you research your videos, I have already watched a lot of your videos. I’m from Czechia and I’m so glad I had found your channel, thank you for doing all of this. ❤️❤️
Bill and Lorraine sounded like such strong people, they put up a fight and nearly escaped him. May they rest in peace and all of the rest of this disgusting man’s victims
And always with a fierce human dignity.
someone not having a motive makes them so much more dangerous, so much more prepared because they arent fueled by emotions, and its so much more scary
How people get around killing other people is beyond me. So yes having absolutely no reason is really disturbing
@@cici.ngxenge its probably some sort of fetish for them
@@cici.ngxengehonestly it’s the same way people are able to kill animals just cranked up to the extreme if you’re not used to killing an animal you might feel bad but imagine those seasoned hunters especially those who hunt for sports they enjoy it to these types of serial killers human life isn’t above an animals it’s just a harder animal to hunt and kill
^^^^ This
@@Nara-tm5xz exactly, one year late but people who kill for sport disgust me.
It's sick to take a life 'for the fun of it' and definitely desensitizes you to the whole concept of death itself
the fact bill and Lorraine almost managed to escape and actually put up a fight and they still didn’t make it, is just so much more sad 😕
Right and even though she told us they had no family, it was still super sad to hear the house got demolished and they were more than likely trash. It’s a pleasant thing to know they had each other in their lives, even through death, they were there for each other in their dying moments.
@@arri_no_ari yeah but its awful that they had to hear/watch each other get tortured
I know it must've been unfathomably horrifying, but I'm so happy that they made it as difficult as possible for him to get his victims. Like, they fought HARD
I was rooting for at least one of them to make it out alive. 💔
I kept hesitating to start this one because I knew Sam… lots of memories with her and even though I’m into true crime it’s so so so different when your friend literally gets murdered by a serial killer. Sam had the most infectious laugh and I always remember her as bubbly but tough. 😢
I’m so sorry for your loss
Sorry for your loss x
So sorry for your loss 😢
Oh wow I'm so sorry for your loss. That's so horrific to have a loved one and friend die in such a horrible way
🧢
Crazy to see people so pressed over her not posting for a while. Y'all are receiving this content for free, you aren't owed anything. I want her back too, but being rude and demanding isn't how we get things. Most people grow out of that phase when they hit age 4.
But we’re the reason her bills get paid💀
@@ami2..20no
not really lol. youtubers get vacation time too, stop being so stuck up and selfish lmao.
Right? People really don’t realize how mentally taxing these types of videos are to film. It takes a toll on me just listening them. I can only imagine how much it affects her.
@@ami2..20you’re not the reason for anything 💀 get off your high horse. She makes the videos. She makes the content you obviously enjoy. She is the reason her bills get paid. Imagine being so toxic you go after a youtuber you enjoy when they miss a few videos. Grow up
@bb971 really? I can't imagine anyone finding these videos mentally taxing. Not trying to be rude, I just can't relate to that.
the fact he made so many stupid mistakes with Samantha (using her bank card, abducting her from his home town, etc.) almost makes me think he WANTED to get caught, especially since he asked for the death penalty. It's almost as if he was getting tired of his 'lifestyle' and wanted to go out in a blaze of glory or smth
Samantha bf not shit nor smart. Tired of people and dating lame unintelligent weak men.what man sees someone shuffle into their vehicle on their property after receiving a cryptic message from a loved one and dna finger prints all over your shxt etc she led him there for a reason, the bf fortunately witnessed in time, and unfortunately didn’t take the baton. L . his weak ass just stood there probably thinking “hmm I see man in my car wonder what that’s about”
either that or he got bold since he was getting away with it for a while!
They eventually screw up in some way, and somehow...
He probably got cocky and bored of getting away with it so easily and got complacent. Makes me wonder about the similar people out there who stuck to the plan like he did, never got complacent and never got caught
Nah I don't think so. When you make it that long in the game without getting caught or receiving any serious consequences, you'll be bound to make some careless mistakes. The biggest tell for me was when he was pulled over for speeding after leaving a hotel in his white Ford focus, and he appeared very anxious. If you want to get caught, and die in a grand way, he would be calm.
I guess you could say it's all an act to make cops think- no that wouldn't make any sense. Being calm would work in his interest. I don't know, but I doubt that.
have i already heard of this case? yes. am i going to watch it again just because its eleanor? absolutely.
SAME
Yep same her and Danielle cover most the same but also both have different ways of saying it and baily too but I still watch n rewatch. 😂
THIS WAS ME WHEN SHE DID GACY
Same!!!
@@rebekahmk6794 YES!!!! I was gonna say I just watched Danielle’s video about this but am I going to watch this two hour long story again? YES OF COURSE gotta support our true crime babes!!!
One more thing about that first girl. Letting her go changed him. He said that he always regretted letting her get to him, and letting her go. She really was lucky! He also studied many serial killers to find out how they got caught, and what they did wrong, so he didn’t do the same things. That’s why he was so prepared, and never killed in his area. That’s another reason why it’s so crazy that he went against all his rules for the last murder.
It's all about the k!ll3r losing control and patience between their victim intervals. I think he was starting to lose it, and he knew it.
Makes you wonder if maybe, deep down, he wanted to get caught.
@Erin Mack they do. Infamy.
I think he wanted to get caught.
I think they get cocky and then careless. I am not sure he really wanted to get caught. He was a vile piece of garbage.
There should never be one person working a Night Shift that’s just scary
@EleanorNeale...fake
I feel like while she does a series that is very adult themed, we have to remember she is still a young girl. It’s hard to see this point because she is extremely mature for her age. She is good at what she does and while we enjoy her/her series we need to remember she has a younger lifestyle and needs to maintain her friendships and freedom.
@wait-a-minute yeah…it’s easy to google ages these days, I stand by my original statement. Thanks for the update however
@wait-a-minute good job 👍🏻
The most terrifying to me is that he didn’t have a type (minus children). He chose his victims at a whim. It’s horrifying to know that because everyone is a potential target.
Just like Ted Bundy. He was known as the deliberate stranger.
@@lauraholmes3262 Didn't Ted Bundy only target young women, specifically those with brown hair?
@@user-ep3fo5vw1v yes
like for all i know someone has my house targeted . it has me scared just on the thought
@@user-ep3fo5vw1v predominantly yes but It’s believed he murdered a child, however he refused to talk about it
When Eleanor said she’d never heard of tubing I was like oh wow I guess that isn’t a thing in the UK but then she pulled out “rubber dingy rapids” and I absolutely died
TBH, that is the term that we use for those small-ish two, maybe three person inflatable 'boats''/rafts that come with plastic paddles that you bring to or buy at the beach here in Canada. We call them dingies. Even if they are more robust and have engines like police river patrol boats or small rescue craft used in big scale rescues. We still call 'em dingies.
“Rubber dinghy rapids bro!!” 😂😂😂
SAME
Tubing absolutely is a thing in the U.K. we do it in my hometown in wales
STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPP🤣🤣🤣 that had me cackling real bad
The fact that his parents were angrier with him being an atheist than the fact that he would torture animals and shoot at people’s houses with their guns 💀 priorities
americans man
@@thescats *cult members man
@@thescats *devout religious people man
@@thescats ahh yes. Americans are the creators of radical religions…. Good take bud.
also the fact that they were racist but named him after a middle eastern country like 💀 ???
looking at Bill and Lorraine was so heartbreaking. I knew what was coming and I still felt sick knowing what he did to them. They look like such good, happy people. Sooo tragic. Especially Lorraine almost running away. Abhorrent
I remember feeling so scared when Samantha went missing because coffee huts on nearly every corner in Anchorage, and there are so many young women and girls who work at these coffee huts. It hit way too close to home to have this happen in my city. When I was a junior in high school, the lead detective in Samantha's case came to my school and gave a presentation explaining how she caught Israel. The part that really stuck with me was how he sent "proof of life" pictures long after she was dead, which meant that he had to make her body look like she was still alive. That's just disgusting. I am so angry that he killed himself in prison because he deserved to live in a locked box for the rest of his miserable life.
I remember seeing all the green ribbons on the lamp posts near her side of town when she went missing. So sad. When I started working at a coffee hut near Dimond, my boss actually would offer to pay for us to get our concealed carry, and he would bring up Samantha as a reason why. Boss dude was a major asshole, but he cared lol. I had friends who worked at some huts during the time of her kidnapping and they were all on edge.
He definitely took the coward’s way out. I’m not surprised, but I am disgusted.
I am pretty sure I was attacked by Israel Keyes in Olympia, WA in 2005-2006. I was a student at TESC and it settled in a rainforest...a lot of dense Evergreen trees for miles and miles. I was walking home after dark to the apartments on campus and this guy who appeared to be out for a run asked me which way a certain street was, I pointed him towards where he was asking about, and kept walking. A couple of minutes later he attacked me from behind, tried to cover my mouth and pull me off the trail and deeper into the trees. Luckily someone had their window open and he ran off. I saw Israel Keyes picture once he was captured and the whole story came out -- my blood went cold. I to this day, believe I survived this guy.
Fun fact: The parking lot I was walking home from was the same one that Ted Bundy abducted a victim from, and this is also something one of the responding officers felt appropriate to mention while I was in my dorm and they were taking a report.
😱 holy crap, that must be terrifying
Haha I was coming to also say holy crap! Thank god you survived!!! What a story 😱
You better submit this story for listener tales on the morbid podcast!
Right so the cops said that to someone that was just attacked and despite him grabbing you they didn't connect Israel Keyes to it even tho DNA evidence existed in 2005-2006? Don't lie about this man that's fucked up
Oh my god😱 That’s terrifying! How lucky that someone would’ve heard thru the open window!! Hope you’re doing well❤️
It actually kind of makes sense for both girlfriends to believe he was just leaving for business trips because they probably also wonder where he got the money to pay for all of those plane tickets. If they were business trips, he certainly wouldn’t be paying for them. His work would pay for them. And I’m sure they certainly weren’t suspecting he was robbing people. I might be missing information since I’m only halfway through the video. 44:05
You pretty much nailed it. If the logic fits..
I work for a septic company. They sometimes don't get emptied for YEARS. Decades in some cases. Problem is, you can't really open one. It's only usually a 20ish inch cover that's removed to suck out the waste. The picture shown was actually a distribution box, not a septic tank. The average tank hold about 1000 gallons or more of waste or septage.
Thx for the info😃
@@gowrisuresh8091 lmao.....honestly while I was typing this I was like jeesh, should I say that they don't get emptied often at all?? Maybe TMI 🤦🤷
Wow that is even more terrifying, I can’t imagine what’s in there!
@@sem5768 it is, and our technicians know what you've been eating based on what sucks out of the tank, grease, heavy solids, wet wipes and "flushable" wipes which aren't really flushable. They do not break down. We recently had a customer that owned her home since 1992 that was a new build and was never pumped. 31 years of septage! Every system is different, but from what I understand most modern systems would be extremely difficult to get a human or any other large body into it. It's not impossible but uncommon and difficult to access. Cesspools on the other hand are a different story. They are basically obsolete. Either way, very gross.
I was going to comment on this as well! My house uses a septic tank and it gets emptied like… every 3-5 years
I love your videos :( I've been watching your videos since like 2018. Recently, (July 2022), my friend was murdered. His name was Jacob Michael Hills, one of my closeted friends. I don't know if you can, but if you can, please make a video covering his case. His story needs to be heard, and you're the only one I can really think of that would tell this story in a beautiful way. Even if you don't, just reading this comment does enough for me :( thank you so much
It hurts even more having lost friends due to the Oxford shooting.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
I’m sorry for your loss, and may Jacob rest in peace.
@reidling thank you guys for your condolences♥︎ I really just hope his moms doing okay. No mom should have to deal with that, yknow?
@@SodaPoPSaucethank you♥︎ may he rest in peace
This story made me cry. That poor couple. I can’t imagine how horrifying and terrifying everything was, can’t believe they actually had to go through that. I can’t believe how someone could be so heinous to another human, to people they don’t even know.
You know its deadly serious when Eleanor posts two movie-length videos in 2 weeks, appreciate quality over quantity
I'm tired of her new content. It's so...dramatic as if this was a movie. Her old videos are better
@@purpleclaws202 do you mean the shorter videos?
@@purpleclaws202 nah I feel like it's better then her old ones
@Don't Read My Profile Picture shut up bro
@☻ AwhEleanor !! ★ yes but not because they're short but because she was more professional. None of this dramatic music or intense pauses. She speaks more professional and doesn't talk as crazy or excessive.
when it comes to the family/spouses, i really believe many of them dont actually know whats going on. because even if you think your spouse is acting strange, it is a HUGE leap to then think "oh hes murdering people." Like that is not a logical thought you would have. Like say you were ordering coffee in a coffee shop and the barista was acting strange. you may suspect that they are messing with your drink, but then they turn around and hand you a monkey. like how were you ever supposed to know that they had a monkey. it doesnt make logical sense for that to be something youd suspect. I imagine its probably the same kind of deal when someone you love and trust turns out to be a monster. you might suspect them of being shady and cheating or stealing/lying but MURDER? i dont think most of us would go there without explicit proof.
I want to go to the coffee shop and hold the monkey
You really threw me with that monkey comment. That’s why your whole point makes sense.
IIRC Dennis Rader's wife just thought he was cheating on her, not being a serial killer.
I feel for his daughter. She probably grew up thinking that her dad was her hero but all of that was taken away from her.😢
If you can, I’d love to see you cover the case of Penny Pratt. It’s a case from Australia and one that was handled so terribly and she deserves to have her story told.💕
I think it’s really interesting the texts he sent from Samantha’s phone, and the point you made about it. His lack of empathy and understanding of human emotion and concern was part of his downfall. He perhaps wouldn’t think “This will worry them” because perhaps he didn’t understand how that worked- saw it as a cold lie that made logical sense, didn’t think about it emotionally
Sadly as it is, the Police & FBI really should have been more willing to cooperate with him. What he did was ABSOLUTELY disgusting & horrible, he got what he deserved (ultimately), however they could have gotten loads more information if they would have just been willing to do the two things he asked (ABSOLUTELY NOT defending him at ALL). The Police just have this mentality that they are gonna get what they want & the inmate/suspect is gonna give it to them bc they said.
yes also death penalty is not done immediately right? also what's with the guards... no one checked on him but also gave him something to cut himself?
Do you honestly think he would actually give them what they wanted if they had catered to his demands??
@@dianner5148 can't hurt to try? maybe he would
@@dianner5148it was confirmed that he was cooperating with police once they gave him what he wanted “he wanted cigs, and then he started talking” yea so he would have
Seen danielle kirstys video of this case but definitely still watching this. I love hearing how others narrate it
I was just about to comment that. I saw Danielle's video, but I'll still watch this one.
@@aishaliane Is it just me or constantly watching true crime vids makes me paranoid of all strangers i encounter 😭
I like Danielle kristy
@@uuzjr5354 that’s a downfall 😂
@@uuzjr5354 it's me too! 😂
i noticed you said the photo of samantha was never released, and the photo you showed is a recreation, but i’ve always read online that the photo you showed was the REAL photo of her. i’m glad it’s not the real one, it was really upsetting for me the first time i saw it online
It’s interesting to think if there could be any more hidden murder kits that no one’s found yet
The reenactment of the ransom photo is just so disturbing. I can’t imagine what the real one was like. I’ve listened to many podcasts/TH-cam videos about him, and I still get sick to my stomach over this case.
Elanor, please you need to talk about this recent case. in my home country Serbia, a 13/14 year old child committed school shooting and hurt and killed a lot of people. At first, it was though it's because of a grade, but its actually much worse than everyone thought, especially the fact that this wasn't his first time killing someone.
Wow, I hope she covers this case
@@nthgth I really hope so too, it's a very serious situation. Especially in my country which it's almost unheard-of
Oh wow I am so sorry to hear about the shooting. Can't imagine how stressful and scary that would be, especially if it's recent. Hope you're keeping safe, internet stranger!
I think Eleanor has an email that you can perhaps contact and request her coverage of the shooting, but I'm not 100%
EDIT: Yep! It's in the description of this video
Do you have a name for the case? I would like to look it up
@@Tre.1 its all in serbian so keep that in mind. it's called "pucanje u Beogradskoj skoli" or "shooting in Belgrade school"
I’ve heard his case in depth but it never ceases to shock and horrify.
Thank you again Eleanor for another great video, we love and appreciate your efforts!
cases like these are absolutely horrid but at the same time so interesting. He was a horrible person and it's so scary to think what if he had never been caught? what if he didn't break his one rule? love love love the movie long videos eleanor makes, they're always the scariest yet most interesting cases
How is murder like this entertaining and interesting you?? It’s not interesting, it’s horrific and terrifying
@jessicaaitken8858 I know this is a late reply, but what they might mean is seeing It from a sociological or psychological perspective. Basically, the "what ifs" in different outcomes that could've happened
the bill and Lorain story shattered me when i saw the photos considering how similar Bill looks to my dad. scared me a litte. thank you for this amazing video. may all those souls who lost their lives to this horrific man rest peacefully 🙏🏻🕊️🤍
I will Never Forget being 11 and watching Samantha's story go live on the local news. THIS is why I will never hesitate to look out for my sisters in public. This man is a Monster and had no right taking this girl or anybody else's lives.
An ex-friend of mines son (8 years old) I witnessed throwing frogs as hard as possible against a fence trying to kill them. Her and her family were just sitting there acting like it was normal behavior. I totally freaked out and yelled for him to stop and his mom got super pissed at me and wouldn’t look at me the rest of the day.
There was other weird things I’ve witnessed from her and she would randomly snap at me (like a bad behaved teenager.) Anyways- I’m very worried her son will go on to be a murderer or just very evil person.
Ew, I'd be worried too!
I'm glad you stepped in, and I'm glad you're not her friend anymore considering the way she treated you. Unfortunate that she wouldn't listen to you. She'll have a lot to deal with later if there is something that's going untreated in her child. I hope that's not the case but.. I can't quite see a normal kid treating frogs like water balloons.
That's a good thing that you said something, probably wouldn't hurt to send them a message just to drive home the point that its messed up their kid was doing it
I would genuinely report that, considering the fact that she didnt correct his behaviour, harming animals almost always spirals it something worse
Seriously please report that. Even if nothing happens, maybe they'll send someone to the house to check the situation and maybe that would be a wake up call for her.
@@mobee9181 wow what a sick family. There are also cases of parents ignoring bad behavior or enabling it, thinking that is good parenting, not it is not! The kids would grow up to be narcissistic or sociopaths.
I think it's a slippery slope to question whether close family members know about their loved ones being killers or any other type of wrong 'un. The whole psychology of these people is that they can pull the wool over everyone's eyes and can put on a show of being a great person. Also, you went straight from 'did she really not know?' to 'and then they split up and he took his daughter' - mad to assume someone would let their daughter be taken by a person they possibly 'know' is a serial killer!
I agree. I was very surprised by that comment
Sound like he took his daughter she probably didn't let him have her she was prob afraid and financially couldn't win in court who leaves there little girl with a man there leaving like come on.. the fact he had a no kid rule was the only blessing out of this man's cursed ways..his own child prob would of fell victim to his rape rage had he continued to slip away from police..
I have been a subscriber for a long time, but I rarely leave comments. But this video made me realize that you should know how great you are at telling a story, and really making everything clear as opposed to just spitting out facts without any mystery involved. The reason I say this now is because I have read/listened to many accounts about Israel Keyes, but I've always been left with confusion, until now. I often feel this way about your videos, but I have never explained that before and I wanted to let you know because I'm sure that is how everyone must perceive you.
Most serial killers don't want to know anything about their victims. They want a blank slate to project on to. Usually giving as many details about yourself as possible is your best chance at getting let go
I read the book on this and it was so disturbing but interesting to read all of what he did. I feel absolutely terrible for the victims.
Can y’all imagine finding one of those hidden murder kits? Crazy!
Israel Keyes is an absolute monster! Always enjoy your presentation of cases..been watching your channel for years!
One of the most well detailed and put together videos I've seen on Keys, he was a truly awful person. I'm glad he's gone but I feel bad for the families that will never know. Maybe one day with more investigation they can find more information. Samantha's case is horrible to hear but her death caught a killer. She was so brave and fought to the end.
When I found out the police had caught him and he would reveal information I sort of got excited. But then I immediately got sad when you confessed that he had already killed her. I was genuinely hoping she survived.
This is one of my favourite cases I’m so happy I’ve found this!!!
Thank you for covering this case!! I've lived in Alaska my whole life and it's well known that a lot of people come here to get away. That also includes criminals, unfortunately. It's scary knowing these types of people can unknowingly live minutes away from you. Even scarier is the fact that the coffee shop mentioned is quite literally 4-5 minutes away from the college dorms. Great informative video as always! Cheers from Anchorage, AK✌
Please tell me they don’t let barista’s close alone anymore, when I worked at Starbucks the company policy was always 2 closers in the store at all times because of shit like this :/
As someone who’s also in anchorage its scary me and my partner have talked about how vast and empty the mountains and forests are on the drive to Seward and surrounding the city and how easy it would be for someone to do something out there it’s terrifying and we always make sure we have everything needed just in case we end up breaking down on a long drive
@@scorpoii3837unfortunately most of the tiny coffee house drive through kiosk type buildings we have only have one person working in them at a time they’re tiny and can’t really fit more than one person we have tons of them around the city owned by different people
@@scorpoii3837they still do let women close alone.. they had signs up for a bit telling girls to carry guns while on shift and things like that but it was more of a we warned you so if you work here you’re taking the risk kind of thing.
The Toolbox Murders is the most brutal case I’ve ever heard. I’d love to see you make a video about them. If you’re interested look up these names, Lawrence Bittaker, Roy Norris, and there were four other victims involved but the most well known is Shirley Ledford.
If this is the same case as what I call the “toy box killer” then I think she’s covered it !!, but I could be wrong :)
@@isobelrafferty1494 I have seen a few of her videos and scrolled through her content. I may have missed it but I don’t think she has.
@@isobelrafferty1494
Wait, I'm confused now .. the "Toy-Box-Killer" is named David Parker Ray, but Eleanor didn't make a video about that guy, at least not that I know of ..
@@isobelrafferty1494 it isn't.
@@softpurplebat because toybox killer and toolbox killers are two different cases. They are often confused with each other (as here, by Isobel) due to similarity in names that were given to these cases.
I find the military aspect one of the most fascinating aspects of the case and as much as nothing can explain being a serial killer, there is a lot you can pull out of it. In my personal analysis of his situation I’d say a massive part of the appeal of joining the army would be because it was an outlet for him.
He’d never really had a ‘normal’ upbringing and by being forced into a lifestyle where instead of people trying to help with his obvious psychological problems, he was just outcasted for it. This would form a LOT of pent up anger:
- anger to his parents for his childhood
- anger to his siblings for not having the same issues as him
- anger at the people in the church
- anger at himself as well
However, he had no way to express this. He didn’t have friends to vent to, he didn’t have ways to relax such as TV or books, he didn’t have time away from his thoughts and he barely did anything. So a ton of anger and resentment will have pent up with him. This could also explain how he’d go around shooting things, I reckon he has some sort of need for adrenaline which would explain many of his erratic decisions.
I think he probably recognised this around the time when he was 17 or 18 and he wanted to change hinting at his interest in change of religion. But I think at this point he found what, he thought, might be a potential solve for his issues: satanic sacrifices. And that was where that desire came from.
Now when he joined the army he had a new outlet, to be in the army you have to workout a lot and you do a fair amount of combat and shooting practices. This probably somewhat settled his violent urges. He was also surrounded by people who potentially also had their own issues. So by being in the army it not only gave him that chaos he so badly needed but also a sense of comfort.
It brought back many aspects of his life which he might of enjoyed and put them together:
- he had a sense of order and isolation that he’d had in Washington when he was younger
- he was allowed to openly fulfill his violent needs
- he had a group of people that surrounded him all the time much like his childhood home
Whilst many parts of his thought process I cannot comprehend, there are some parts I can understand and unpack, his case is so interesting.
He would be a perfect murder machine in a real combat. This makes him even more terrifying.
Don’t feel pressured to upload if you need time. Miss you and wish the best for you.
you should cover the swedish case of Lisa Holm. a girl who disappeared from her workplace on her way home and later was found in a locker
i remember seeing the recreation of the ransom photo in the news as a kid. absolutely harrowing. i cant imagine how her family must have felt :(
This is the most in depth video on him. I only knew about one of his victims (his most notorious last victim). I did not know he had so many other victims to his name 😔
im a jack manifold viewer so have recently been introduced to your channels and my goshhh i love them so much!!! I've never been into true crime but I absolutely love your content, the way you present cases is so clear and engaging and its fascinating hearing about them all!! love your personal channel as well, one of my fave youtubers now :D ty for being awesome!! much love
Yikes as a former college student who tended to be the only girl in a closing shift I definitely appreciate the managers that would stay and give me a ride home even tho my dorm was basically across the street 😬
Such a haunting and infuriating case. Thanks as always for the hard work and incredible story telling.
I almost skipped this cause I’ve hear his story MANY TIMES… but there was a lot I had NEVER heard and was surprised about.
Glad you hooked me in! You did such a good job telling this story.
✌🏻😘🌸
I recently saw another British true crime TH-camr cover this same case. First, you both did an excellent job, as usual. Second, it's amazing that you can both cover the same case and do it in unique ways.
I’m from Alaska, I actually lived down the street from the coffee hut Samantha was taken from and I’ll never forget when this happened, the whole city couldn’t stop talking about it and it was on the news 24/7
It’s always startling when these stories occur in places that are meaningful to you, especially places that are as small and out-there as Colville.
So, where's Eleanor? It's been a while..
Was wondering the same thing 😮 hope she's ok 🥰
@@shayceleste2012BBY me too
she’s posted on insta recently she said she took a break from social media
I was coming here to say this 😢
Me too. I hope she is okay
Hi! Point of clarification. At 18:23 you show the family's move from Washington to Maine... but the map shows Washington, D.C., not the state of Washington. They moved clear across the United States - much farther!
I came here to see if someone already made this comment!
I will never forget the picture he took of Samantha to prove she was still alive, though she was already deceased. Absolutely horrible! And, he made his way through Humble/Kingwood which is close to me. 😐. RIP Samantha and his other victims.
If it makes you feel any better, the real photo has never been released but some people don't realise it's just a representation. It is really horrible though :(
Isn't she the one that he sewed her eyes open to make her look alive?
@@juliestrickland7754 yes, thats her
did you see the real image somehow? or are you talking about the recreation
i looked at the recreation and its one of the most disturbing things i've ever seen?? like thats enough to actually keep me up at night
two almost two hour videos in a row 😭 thank you for your hard work, eleanor !
I’ve been interested in true crime since I was little (because of my mom) so I’ve heard of a lot of crimes, but when I first learned about Israel Keyes, I had to take an extended break from True Crime. This one really badly affected me. Man was insane and diabolical.
Just to add, this man had no M.O. He just attacked whoever he found wherever his murder kit was planted. That is TERRIFYING.
Eleanor your videos are always done with reverence and respect for the victims and their families. I know these topics are very difficult to cover and talk about. You truly do an amazing job. Wishing you blessings and peace. You are a wonderfully committed and compassionate person and it shows thru your videos.
Hi Ellie! Just a little clarification on "tubing". There's many different types, but what you are describing is more what we would just call "river floats". Most commonly, tubing is done behind a boat. Like water-skiing or wakeboarding. The tube is hooked up to a rope on the boat and you're pulled behind it and you have to try and hold on. With kids you usually take it a bit more gently, but with adults it's more of a game for the boat driver to see if they can throw the people on the tube...off. So you hit big waves, take sharp turns, go really fast, etc...
And for winter tubing, idk, we usually just still call it sledding. Rubber tubes aren't as popular in the snow because a stray branch or rock can easily pop a hole in it.
There's also white water tubing, but that's pretty dangerous
Someone in a town near me died doing that and their body was only found the next spring (caught on a rock under a bridge)
Where I’m from, in northern Minnesota, we call floating down the river “tubing”. but we also call going behind a boat in a tube “tubing”, because it’s done with a tube and not skis or knee boards. “Winter tubing” isn’t sledding though because you do it with tubes and not sleds. I’m only clarifying because it depends on who you ask
I tried that type of tubing once when I was young. The next morning I discovered muscles I never before knew I had. Loved it though. But my word I was sore for a week!
As a Canadian, when I think of tubing, I usually think of the snow version hahaha 😆
Many ski resorts offer winter tubing
I had to take a long break from content like this, a little over a year. I come back and Eleanor looks AMAZING!
Same here. I couldn't do what she does...too 😢.
I love this woman. Posts videos exactly went I need something to listen to, Eleanor I LOVE YOU ❤
the fact that he got pleasure from other's pain makes me believe he didn't want to confess to all his crimes and found it a better option to let these innocent victim's families be in pain from the loss and from not knowing what happened to their loved one. that's truely horrifying
which also explains the ransom he was causing pain to Samantha Koenig's loved ones for his own pleasure and advantage
I had a friend visit me here in Anchorage last winter, and it was a shock to her that a lot of the coffee stops in town don’t allow foot traffic, that they make it clear through signage that they carry, that they don’t take cash, stuff like that. And to me, because I’d grown up here I just assumed that’s how coffee stops were around the whole country. I knew a lot of that became standard practice around here because of Samantha’s abduction, but at the same time it just seems like that should’ve been the standard in the first place.
I don’t think it was a mistake Samantha was kidnapped from that particular coffee stop either, I mean there’s literally one around every corner here. But that stop in particular, their whole vibe gives me the ick tbh. For the longest time their entire brand centered on their “cute fun Alaska white chick” baristas, plastering their faces on socials and even on the backs of their coffee cards; these women are 100% their main selling point. Then on top of that their baristas were working solo shifts in those tiny shacks with one way in, one way out, in the middle of dark ass Alaskan winters. And it wasn’t until this past year that their branding finally changed.
Anyways, obviously the real monster here is the sicko who abducted Samantha, but it’s not like the coffee stop owners did much to protect their employees in the first place. Pisses me off that it took an actual abduction for the business owners to put reasonable safety measures in place. My heart breaks for Samantha and her family, I hope they are doing as well as they can be.
I grew up in Washington and have been to both Colville and Neah Bay. For some reason, both places are so placid, remote, stunningly beautiful, and peaceful that it’s difficult to imagine such horrors happening there. For those who aren’t familiar with those locations, know that he was honing his skills in genuinely REMOTE places. The amount of people he could have killed and had them explained away as hunting accidents or exposure to the elements (or their bodies would never be found in the wilderness at all) is unparalleled in most places in the Lower 48. It truly is possible to get away with murder out there. If someone disappears in an area that remote, the automatic assumption is that an animal got to them or that they got lost in the woods, not that they were killed.
Omg this guy is insane!! I heard about him somewhere else but this one actually frightened me. He traveled all across america committing murder. It makes me wonder if there are others like him. I heard on TikTok there was a murderer that was doing something similar between Dallas, Chicago, and somewhere else I can’t remember but geez… it’s crazy how long they can get away with it before getting caught🙁
i did a project on him for my forensics class. we went over a lot of cases in that class but his was the one that stuck with me the most.
remember him not choosing children as his victims is not because he has any sort of moral code…more so that missing/dead children make a lot of noise in media…he definitely knew that, especially having his own.
The fact that I already knew about him I still watched your video because I love your story telling. I just wish you posted more frequently
Having watched 20 years of true crime and even earned a Masters in Forensic Psych, Keyes is the killer that scares me the most. If he hadn't broken his own rules, he would most likely have so many more victims. He would also reportedly dump victims in bodies of water that were unsearchable, meaning no on could dive that far down to retrieve the bodies or evidence and he liked to stake out wilderness areas. You wonder how many Missing 411 cases were actually Keyes' work. So glad he is dead. Super effing evil demon he was. I'm' impressed his daughter has never been identified. Poor girl. If she is even still living, she must live a tortured existence as well. Thanks for the great coverage, Eleanor! You dug up a lot!
Im convinced that this case inspired the new season of criminal minds. The killer also uses kits and had a ton of rules not to get caught.
i was looking for this comment it’s so similar definitely think that they at least got some inspiration from this case
He is mentioned by name (by Dr. Reid, of course!) in earlier seasons of CM. Where can I find this new CM season/series?? Anyone in Europe know?
@@Helenaelizabeth93 Thanks! Is it the Criminal Minds Beyond Borders one?
Nope that is one of the spin off series. The latest reboot is Criminal Minds Evolution
@@torimacdonald8021 yeah I watched that on Disney +
So many people go missing everyday and the thought of a unidentified killer using the same techniques as him always gets to me..
My fav story teller it’s been a month darlin I need sum new to fall asleep to
Friendly reminder(since Eleanor has been gone) she deserves flexibility & time off❤
for sure, i just hope she's doing okay
This is the most interesting but sad story I've heard so far. RIP to all of his victims
I have been waiting to hear someone do this case! It is sooooo crazy how smart and collected this guy was especially with all of his planning and careful execution. I read a book about his case on a road trip and have been fascinated for months! It scares me that someone can be like this and just because of awful luck for him he get caught. Thinking about how someone can be so methodical and careless of his actions while leading a double life. It baffles me and thank you for sharing this awful case! It needs more awareness!!!!
Sometimes careless actions are really intentional actions to raise the evil one's adrenaline levels. They thrive on adrenaline.
Iv been so ready for another case!! I been re watching old ones just to fill my time with this beauty!
heartbreaking case, my prayers go out to every family who has lost a loved one due to this horrid man
I literally read a book about this about 1 and a half years ago. As soon as I read “murder kits” I immediately knew. That book has stuck with me since.
I have seen several others who have covered this case but I must say, by far, you have done the best. I enjoy your videos and just want to say thank you for all the hard work !!
Eleanor posting 2 LOOONG videos for 2 weeks 🥺 let’s all thank her for the dedication 🤍🤍
I've seen this case done with other TH-camrs, but I didn't know he was a serial killer! I either missed them briefly mentioning it, or they didn't mention it at all, I think because they were focused on teaching about Samantha. It's also through this video that I learned about the blood paintings and the fact that her photo was a recreation. Thanks, Eleanor! I'm always learning something new with your videos
I absolutely think he wanted to get caught. There is no reason for all of the stupidity of his last case after he has shown himself to be so careful and patient his whole life.
This is the most terrifying and horrifying case I’ve ever heard of.
Lorraine and Bill’s story really stuck with me. why did they go to landfill? were they not ever found? did they not have family looking for them? its so upsetting to me, i hope thats not the case
I think I just saw this from Danielle but I just love the way y’all tell the stories in your own ways❤
A great retelling of a horrific serial killer. Hope all is well Eleanor.
i knew this one but i'm just addicted to the way she tells the stories, i cant get enough
The fact that if the parents brought him to a therapist or something MAYBE he could’ve been helped and been stopped from killing people… wow. So many red flags ignored and if they didn’t, if they got noticed and talked about it could’ve saved lives
Can we just appreciate the amount of work this long video must have taken 😩♥️
I may have missed key details that disprove this but is it possible that the 11 skulls on the cell wall with the words “we are one” were relating to his 11 family members and not possible victims?
Eleanor you bring beauty, an adorable accent, and an engrossing presentation to this story.
The portion of the story about the deer hurt my soul 😔
Agreed. That poor deer.
I found your channel few weeks ago and I absolutely love it! I really love your voice and the way you research your videos, I have already watched a lot of your videos. I’m from Czechia and I’m so glad I had found your channel, thank you for doing all of this. ❤️❤️