Jaeger Sports Baseball Throwing Program -- '360 translates into 97mph Arm Strength & Velocity
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- See how Pitcher China McCarney and Trevor Bauer build arm health, strength, velocity, endurance and improved recovery period as he goes through the Jaeger Sports Long Toss Throwing Program for baseball players. This throwing session China goes out as far as 360 feet, and his velocity hit's 97 mph on the radar gun. This is the Jaeger Sports approach toward how to long toss correctly, and how to develop arm health, arm strength, arm endurance and improved recovery period. This program is not just for pitching. It is for anyone who wants to address the health, strength and endurance of their arm.
Here from Trevor Bauer throwing the ball 400 feet over centre field
Same
"These it how he did it he may of had flashbacks".
Yupp, me too
Jomboi
Is that on video?
My arm never feels sore the day after long tossing. However I can often feel soreness in my arm the day after simply taking grounders from shortstop and throwing to first base about 25 times. I think its great to stretch out your arm and learn how to use more of your body by long tossing rather than staying tight when you try to throw hard from shorter distances
After doing Jaeger bands and long toss I can now throw about 350 feet and throw in the low 80's I'm only 15 too I Will countine to keep using Jaeger bands and long toss routine.!!
that a boy Ryan...keep working...great stuff!!
Ryan Miller 350 feet generally corresponds to 90 mph or higher. Most of the pro guys I play with can't throw that far.
lol what a crock of shit
That's great kid take advantage. I once had a great arm myself but ruined my shoulder when throwing one day and can never throw the same ever again. I didn't know what these guys are teaching I didn't care to warm up I woiod just straight up gun a baseball as far as I could my first throw lol. It was dumb and I so regret it and I use to throw over a hundred yards. I use to be able to throw a rock probly 170 yards or maybe even farther. I learned at a young age 4th grade that I could throw much farther than most grown ups so by the time I was 17 I was throwing baseballs at my high school football field from endzone to endzone and pitching in the high 80s. Now I'd be lucky to throw 40 yards and it'll feel like I thru a thousand pitches after only one throw. Take care of that arm kid.
The Turdinator he went to my high school it is true. Although I am against long toss it is true that he was throwing low 80’s back then. Now he is almost in the 90’s
Trevor Bauer! Wow this was a long time ago, crazy to see how much this dude improved.
Dude's always been a baseball freak 😂 so cool!
Trevor Bauer is in the bigs now.
Trevor bauer is a cy young award winner now.
@@tannerdrog3827 evevevev
@@tannerdrog3827 eveve
103 million dollar contract. True testimonial if I've ever seen one
Trevor Bauer has a restraining order against him now
These guys have cannons!!
No they don't
@@calvinfernau2 let's see you do it bozo
i'm so impressed every time i watch
I believe I’ve commented on this video before, but I’m now 10 yrs removed from HS baseball and I used this to gain arm strength. I was throwing foul pole to foul pole and it helped increase velocity by at-least 10 mph and helped get a few OF assists. I couldn’t really hit and my arm was my best asset. I never did the J-bands part but I ran and stretched beforehand
damn.. wish i had youtube back when i pitched. lol.
I'm 31 about to be 32 years old and this video help me keep my arm ready and healthy. Thanks a lot!!!
Wow, with an arm like that I bet he could throw a ball over the center field fence after getting pulled out of a game
This video absolutely changed my life
This stuff really works! I have tried it and now I am confident in throwing guys out from the outfiield. Thanks guys!!
After all these years I just now realized that was Trevor Bauer in the video
He looks so younger .. this is the training Bauer talks about
Great video guys
Trevor Bauer was one of the most dominant college pitchers of all time...Silver Spikes winner also... very few power pitchers throw strikes early in the pros...give the kid a chance....
bro saw the vision
@@maxkoster5757bro had a vision
I know these guys are pitchers in Baseball but I bet they could spin a 🏈 pretty darn good with that type of arm strength.
If you consider the mound slopes at 4.76 degrees, but the total slope from a standard mound of 10 inches height over 726 inches (home to rubber) is only 0.79 degrees.... pitching off a mound is essentially similar to throwing at a 3.97 degree UPWARD angle. This is what long toss simulates. It takes a max effort delivery on flat ground and elevates the release several degrees to mimick the upward angle of actual pitching.
I'm a speedy outfielder, and the arm is the one things scouts don't like much about me. I've been long tossing for a year or two extensively, and I'm still only hovering around 77-78. I never thought of long tossing this way, with consistent arc and looseness until the pulldowns. I'll have to try it for a few months and see if I can get into the low or mid 80's.
+Obsession What grade are you in??
+Ryan fuck u ryan
Any luck?
This is perfect for just about any age past 12. The point he's making is this is the healthy way to go about it, your goal isn't to go throw 300+ the first time out. Slowly backup until you feel you're reaching your limit, Don't max out your first few outtings. We did this all the time Jr. High and High. I moved and my coach never had us practice long toss and no one knew how to do it correctly. 2 years later, I went from have a rubber arm to a destroyed shoulder.
Seeing the difference from 92 to 97 is honestly mindblowing.
I just talked to Jeremy Guthrie about utilizing this long toss program. He just implemented it this year and feels great so far.
Totally agree with you...I have no clue how to throw hard or strengthen my arm...and I am irrelevant....but I am man enough to admit it. I do know that some of the greatest coaches and players in the world endorse this program and the endorsements on the Jaeger websites attest to that...it seems like the few people who try to criticize this program just ignore the statements from active players and coaches......maybe those players and coaches do not know anything either....
This Program proves against alot of these other pitching programs on TH-cam that preach heavy powercleaning and squating, These guys are small muscularly and are throwing the ball 97 MPH..Truly Amazing..
They are throwing off a crow hop. Pitching from the mound, they are 90mph at best. I agree, they are preaching outdated baseball wisdom that is the opposite of what Brent at Top Velocity and John Madden on TH-cam talk about.
They would throw just as hard off a mound..When you throw on flat ground even with a crow hop you get no downward force from momentum..I throw harder off the mound than even if I were to crow hop.
Jaeger band is changing world
I struggle throwing 200 ft cant even imagine 330 ft
Kingpizza10 takes time to build up that arm strength
He can throw 380 ft easy
Now Trevor Bauer is a Cy Young Award winner. That’s pretty good results for any throwing program
I've always loved long toss.
I agree, the J-Bands really help, my arm strength has gotten so much better from using them.
It's not necessary to throw more than 200 feet (~ 70 yards) in these drills to maximize the effect of the method. In fact, throwing more than say 180 feet (60 yards) can promote more harm than good for many players as some are infielder-oriented and some more outfielder-oriented (where the longer toss would be more to the task). Just some advice from a former pro baseball player turned physics professor.
Don R. Mueller, Ph.D. Why though?
This is a good program, long toss by itself isn't very effective for pitchers as the mechanics of long toss are different than when pitching from a mound, but in the "pulldown phase" is where it really helps out with pitchers mechanics. Focusing on throwing it flatter with a lower release point. Great conditioning program.
I went out today and applied these methods to my workout. Got up to 330ft of high arc long toss. Then on the pulldown phase i started at 200 ft throwing no more than head high. I felt stronger than i have in a long time. Felt really loose throwing from 200 feet on a rope. Felt even better from 100, then at 60 feet i felt like i was really bringing it, no radar gun today though. Next week i'll radar it and post it on youtube. If i had to guess, i'd say i was throwin 89-90 today.
@biolinquin the teorical explanation to that is the angle of the ball the grip of the ball, etc, if you hold the ball too tight it will be going down as it breaks the air, and if you trow it to high it will fall short, is like throwing a football, you dont need to be like ronnie coleman to throw it hard or long, it comes to technique
@stalkervision. Our college coaches have us use this program at our school and the point of having the pitchers throw long toss is to teach them to use their whole body when they are throwing to get the maximum out of each throw and that translates into them using everything they have when pitching from the mound. This program works so before you and everyone who agrees with you comes on here and talks it down because you were never good at baseball, get your facts straight.
@drivelinebaseball No one promoting long toss will tell you that it's a guarantee your arm won't get injured. Pitching puts torque on your arm it is not meant to withstand. Some people have naturally stronger arms than others. Long toss will strengthen your arm, but if you have a genetically weak link in there, it can break no matter what. Long toss can help, but it's not a cure-all or a sure thing. As to McCarney, he had a rash of personal problems after HS, not arm problems.
This looks like a real good work out. I like how nice and easy they throw . I would like to know how often it should be done. I have a 18 yrs old son that I will definitely recommend it to try it.
how did it work out for your son?
@@luisbocanegra8384 hi
This is amazing! I love this so much!
these guys are pros id like to see a regular non player learn how to throw like this using this program
Can’t wait to do this program im a freshmen this year throwing 75-78 hope I can get to 85-88 for next season or sophomore year
10 mph in one year is kind of a lot but all it takes is hard work
@@andydeck2778 my goal is 25 mph but I'm actually 2 mph ahead of my goal so far
Is that Trevor Bauer
Yeah it is, says in the description.
It is Andrew...just before he went to ucla
I’ve seen this video several times had no idea that was Trevor
No it definitely is not
Awesome video! Very informational! I feel like patience is the key with this kind if workout.
The Texas Rangers adopted this method for their pitchers a couple of years ago, and since have had the fewest starting rotation pitcher's injuries in baseball. They really had no injuries to ANY of their starters this year, aside from blisters. I don't look down on this program at all. I think it's going to be widely adopted very soon if it continues to work out well for the Rangers and other MLB teams who adopt this program.
J bands and long toss helped so.much up to mid and upper 80s with no effort
@Harish Balachandran not gonna regret nothing if you have good mechanics and proper warm up bud
Thank you for these videos!
thank you!!
This is great! Thank you for sharing!
Alan, You are the man!
yes , just changing the arch to make the throw more on a line
@10FlatTires He will throw that hard off the mound to tho. Because if you haven't realized they are throwing on flat ground so as you call getting a "running start" just shows the explosiveness off of a mound that's all.
Lol I’m 17 and have hit 88 on the pull down, but have never done regimented long toss and arm care. I’m starting now hoping to get to low 90s
Harish Balachandran now I’m 19 and 94 and do long toss 😂
great video, great job. great arms.
I think it really depends. Some people's pitching mechanics really relies on the same muscles as the muscles that contribute in long tossing.
@TheBla45 there's a pulldown phase once you start moving in
Damnit why wasn't TH-cam around when I was throwing baseballs a hundred yards and ruined my shoulder because I didn't know what these guys are teaching. Makes me wonder with the right people teaching me could I have been a professional pitcher even in the minors? I definitely use throw just as far as this guy but I wasn't concerned with pitching even tho I knew I had a cannon.
@MrStudlyPants Yeah, I know. I just thought it was cheesy to take a velo reading seriously when the guy is practically running up. Either way, I'm a big fan of Jaeger's program.
Awesome video
I used to just stand on home plate and my teammates and I would try to throw it over the center field fence. Whichever ones didn't fly over we'd have the outfielders work on their throws to home.
At least then it translates to the field. Also pitching is vastly different than a long toss lmfao.
That is "old school" thinking. Even old schoolers are coming around to the thought that more than just the genetically gifted can achieve an excellent fast ball with the right kind of drills.
That kid has a Cy Young and a youtube empire now.
how often do you it? did I miss something
great tip. Really helped
hey alan im 19 and from england i play cricket and ever sice i was young i could out throw men by the age of 8. I have measured my long toss at around 120meters to 130meters i have never been taught to throw and i would be happy to load videos of my long toss if you want.
I like long toss and Jaeger's program in general, but it's worth noting that McCarney has been battling major arm injuries after being drafted. Additionally, at an MLB scouted event, he was only 88-89 with his fastball in game situations. You can find this on MLB's 2008 draft tracker.
Driveline Baseball lol
Lmaooo Driveline seeking back in the day
With his speed of throwing, he can be a frickin mlb pitcher
Great video!!!
Great video, helps a lot. Thanks!
@phatneazy well still, mechanics can be the difference between a couple miles on a fastball, even if the guy throws hard already.
This program works im Throwings 90 mph now!
Nice video.
Wow these guys have CANNONS
Super helpful
Holy crap. I was throwing around 90 in college but I never effortlessly threw a ball 300+ feet. Good lord!
This video is a little deceptive. This dude didn't just walk on the football field and throw 97 after a 25 minutes of long toss. That kind of velocity requires months of conditioning and practicing of proper throwing mechanics, and more importantly a natural muscle quickness. That said, long toss is still very good for your arm.
@phatneazy actually......mechanics is everything. any pitching coach will tell you so.
I have 2 questions for you Mr. Jaeger...
1) How many times per week do you recommend long toss?
2) Does this change during the season for pitchers?
sorry for delay...hope this helps!!
Off Season Throwing Program: www.jaegersports.com/press_articles.php?psid=15
In Season Throwing Program: www.jaegersports.com/press_articles.php?psid=24
I call a tie. They both have cannons. Some other guys out there too, like Ichiro, Melky, Markakis.
hes gunning the ball 330+ feet no problem holy shit, the balls flying
Really helped. Thx
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Our 14U team uses a throwing progression (e.g. wrist snaps, one-knee T, two-knee T, etc.) when playing catch into long toss. Do you recommend this approach, or simply just start by playing standing catch?
Did Rick Ankiel take part in doing this because he has got the best outfield arm in the MLB hands down
ive long tossed at least 420ft. I used a football field. threw through one goal post and through the other and had lots to spare there was a guy on the other side to catch it. I lost a ball from throwing over the 315ft left field fence.
ChrisD 31B Nice, out of curiosity how hard do you throw
93 on the mound
+ChrisD 31B How do we know that though?
your just going to have to take my word for it. I graduated in 2000 and my parents are broke asses they couldn't afford a camera and I never thought to buy one even if I eventually did have a family member show up to a game to record it for me. in my family if its not football season its off season.
wow........nice excersize......
Cool!!! Thanks a lot! I learn a lot from this video :D
Ok ....most people dont know but the "other" guy in the video besides China is Trevor Bauer....the third overall pick in the draft this year....bot these guys are about 6'1" 180 lbs....
@Jviebran Yeah, that's BS. What's his velocity from a normal delivery...running up gives you about 5 mph.
I faced this guy in HS. Crazy speed
I love it!
After you do long toss do players still have regular infield out field practice? Basically what’s after long toss as far as practice is concerned?
“All that’s really happening is they are throwing with a little more arc and revealing they are potential MLB players”
When your shoulder is up and throwing down, totally different than what you teach these guys. They would be better off throwing from 2nd base home and when they pitch it looks real close. To build up arm speed you don't use weighted balls you throw a tennis ball against a wall over and over from 50, 60, 70, feet. You're killing these guys arms.
hey this is good stuff. im trying to star pitching my sophmore year and i want to improve my arm velocity and stamina if i do these exercises with weighted baseballs also will this greatly improve my velocity?
Easy....just warm up properly or you can injure yourself....throwing a football an extended distance will also help......more rotator cuff extension and strength
@@chrisparouse9182 it's a lil late to say sum now, he said that 5 years ago 🤣🤣
@Travis Shaw True lol.....didnt look at when he posted
@@chrisparouse9182 I wonder if he made it or how he's doing 🥲
DAMN! I could barely see that 97 mph throw Imagine what a 105mph fastball must look like! SCARY! LOLZ
Bauer's problem may not be with arm strength, but his approach to the game in general. His walk rate since turning pro is nearly 4.5/9IP.
He had success at the college level because those hitters couldn't keep up with him and he was "effectively wild". MLB hitters will lay off the garbage and either get the walk or crush the mistake.
He has publicly stated he does not care about walks, to me demonstrating that he is unwilling to actually control his arm.
Someone should do long toss with Aroldis Chapman. It would be cool to see how far he can throw.
My son throws 88 (lives 85-87) and is a rising junior in the Atlanta area. He already has a scholarship offer but if he is going to break the barrier of 90 and "live" in that 90-92 range he will need to utilize this type of program. Does anyone in or near Cobb county support your throwing program?
Wish I had done this back in high school, maybe I wouldn't have destroyed my arm.
I gotta try this
My 13 year old is at 75 yards on the fly. When I was a senior in HS I could throw the football field, 300ft. He wants to pass me.
Do you guys ever use Tap weighted medicine balls?
From my limited use with them, I have found they can be a good part of a warm up and cool down.
This is asmr