Derek Roddy: The Truth About Developing Speed - Full Drum Lesson (Drumeo)
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"How do I develop speed?" is probably the #1 question drummers ask, and even more so to Derek Roddy as an extreme metal player. The most common answer is to simply start slow and work your way up, but Derek brings forth some great insights on other efficient ways to hit those top speeds.
Lesson Index:
0:05 - Song #1 (Name TBA)
5:43 - "The Marzear Labyrinth" by Serpeant's Rise
9:43 - Introduction
11:55 - The Truth About Developing Speed
53:47 - "Deformation by Incision" by Nader Sadek
57:32 - Q & A!
1:05:04 - "Everything And Nothing" by Menace
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Hey thanks a lot everyone and especially to the guys at drumeo. Was a lot of fun. Great work they're doing up there.
Derek Roddy you're a god, dog.
Derek Roddy I went to your clinic in Louisiana several years ago, you're an awesome guy and a living legend on the drums.
You are fucking awesome buddy, cheers from Argentina!.
Great demo! Nice to see you squeeze in groovy parts among the blasts.
Derek Roddy Masterrrrr Of the Universe!!!!!!
I was replaced by Derek in a band many years ago. Out of curiosity I went to the first show with my bands “new drummer”, just to see who this new drummer is and whether or not this guy could play. Well you can imagine how I felt after seeing Derek play. It was obvious I had to go home and practice………forever. The band was Joybuzzer/Bedlam Hour.
Hope you still kicking dude, more than to be a technical book, music is about telling, and everyone has they particular story to tell, 🙌
@@budaroddy yes sir, I’ve come to learn that over the years. You are one of several go to’s when I need some inspiration.
I wouldn't even feel bad
7:20 ;) a timestamp that could truly cheer up anyone's day.
I would like to see Derek and Buddy Rich ,side by side ,Derek full speed on the dub - bass and Buddy peeling out full speed on the snare. A speedy cannon ball and Buddy the Gatlin gun.
@@markdemell3717 that would be epic
everybody asking "do that drummer", "do that other one" instead of apreciating Derek's work. An institution in Death Metal drumming, Derek is the man!
One thing I feel rings completely true in what he says is the "If you want to be able to do it, you gotta do it" thing. Sounds stupid, but I had been practicing blastbeats on and off for several years with little success until I started a Grindcore band with a couple friends and I just had to do blastbeats for it to be considered Grindcore. Still work to be done, but by "just doing them" I have kinda taken the fear of failure away from blastbeats and have fun throwing them in our songs.
I'm suffering from the same thing, I love blast beats but I just have not been able to get them to the speed I really want to play them at, but his concept of play a song 5 times in a row from beginning to end, consistently every day is something I'm gonna do and see how that comes along. I feel like "I just do it" is the right mentality here.
Justin Powers 2 years later, how are your blasts?
@@acidrain812 Totally forgot this comment, their clean at around 160'ish but I always kept '"Practicing" vs stepping into it and exposing my body to that type of speed. I had a moment tonight where I finally understood what "I had to do it" meant. I've been practicing all kinds of technique on and off for years and finally decided to say fuck it, Put Angel of death on TH-cam player, put on headphones and just GO. It made me realize something, just expose your body to that tempo/song for awhile and your body will adjust. Even if your super sloppy and terrible, just play as much as you can. Just like failing on a certain weight at the gym, your body is learning to adjust to that weight when your recovering. Same with speed.
I did this with another song awhile back, Ghosts "Dance Macabre". Simple song but It took me awhile to get it, I applied to same method, 5 times in a row every day. Each day improving more than the last.
That's it
There's something about playing in a band helps a lot.
I met Derek years ago when he was working at Mars music in Fort Lauderdale Before he became the popular drummer he is today. He's no different now than he was back then, very humble and Down-to-earth. Well done Derek.
One of a kind human being 🤘
This man... holy moly. Technique and speed at its highest level. He's barely breaking a sweat. Not many metal drummers are as versed in technique as Derek Roddy is.
Meh. Kollias eats him alive
@@user-rh6sr9gv9y Kollias is much faster and better than Roddy.
@user-rh6sr9gv9y Lol there's nothing create about Roddy. The guy was the best until George came along.
George wrote the BEST albums with Nile and his Jazz stuff is even more impressive. George can go from ferocious blasting to soft jazz in a heartbeat. Never seen Roddy touch that though.
@user-rh6sr9gv9y And ok.
I'll take your Derek Roddy and shout you John Longstreth and Thomas Lang.
Seen em all live in clinic.
All beat shit out of Roddy.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Kollias and Roddy are extreme metal specialists, no way they would ever pretend to "play jazz", even if they have the chops they just lack the practice and dedication to that style, and that's fine
I'm honestly super thankful to have a channel like drumeo that allows us to get tips and tricks from such top notch drummers whenever we need to
I love how humble he is. Most extreme metal drummers all think they are the fastest and make a competition out of it. Especially someone like roddy who is known for their speed, it's awesome he points out his weaknesses and says he's not that fast and he isn't good at this and that.
FINALLY ! been waitingfor ages
kinda feared this episode would drop along with the next tool album..
BTW has Danny Carey been already featured in Drumeo?
Nope :(
sadly no.
Drumeo u reading this ? if there is any chance u can get danny carey in here then pls do it !
We read everything. Danny Carey is someone we want to have out. If we can make it happen, we will.
gotta love u guys for that !
Love the kick sound. No triggers in metal is extremely rare. Nice to hear it for a change.
The Axis pedal he's using has triggers. They're mounted on the pedal itself. You can also see a Roland TM-2 on the floor to the right of the drumset when t he top cam is filming.
Not really a big fan of this style anymore but the way he makes this high octane playing look so effortless is enough for me to have huge respect for this dude. Awesome.
I’ve always thought that this style is in its own way effortless, compared to the showy way I’ve always played live to much slower tempos. To play this stuff I need the proper muscle groups and practicing like I did in drum line. Once you get those muscles built, it really isn’t as hard as it looks, or so I’m told.
Correction. It's way harder than it looks and takes many years to master.
Feels good to see that even the drummers we idolize aren't flawless and still need practicing themselves to improve :-)
Just plain logic.
What a legend!! Awesome video!
Like if you want a Tomas Haake lesson!
The ultimate lesson. God level unlocked kinda shit. \m/
It’d need to be an epic lesson. No RUSHED BULLSHIT. 2.5 hours! One hour exercises, one hour practice technique talk and then half and hour question and answer and discussing his pedals and setting on them at the end is mandatory. Looks like they’re doing well enough at drumeo to swing an extra hour.
Same thing if they got Danny Carey.
No triggers. Pure power. But still finesse. Derek rules!
He used axis ekits. You see you the tm2 module
To his right
Derek blends a triggered drum sound and acoustic mics to achieve his drum sound. That way he can still incorporate dynamics into his playing.
@@the6ig6adwolf in this case, triggers are for the audience. you won't hear these fast basssdrums untriggered. well, in his case you actually might but it will just not sound defined in a live setting, hence the triggers
One of my drumming gods...proper.
I remeber the first time i heard ole del-Boy, i couldnt believe the similarity with Pete Sandoval.
This kind of playing, is way more than just a groove,, its a way to think, it pushes yourself, and if you play this with others, you all are like on this tight/fast/clean/ plane of music creation, something that only the few who have cared, or wanted, or felt the need to be the greatest they could achieve..,,and push some more....WHOOAA!!!
He, kollias and hoglan have the best posture out of all the metal drummers i've seen !
What a legend.
Kurt Johnson but he can't play the dance of eternity
Every average drummer can play it.
Dan Davidson you are better drummer than Derek for sure..............................
After u stand in front of his drums with no mic u realize how idiot u are !
@@oldchanel3956 lol he did play like no other drummer ever did you may not know what BPM he did with that song
Idk if it's serendipitous or what, but I spent all morning checking out some Axis pedals (including Derek's signature one). Then I started watching some of his lessons, and to my great surprise, a brand new Drumeo lesson featuring him! Awesome.
Wow..Finally..Derek Roddy!! Thank You Drumeo!
If you can get Aquiles Priester here someday, all of my favourite drummers will be complete in this Channel..All The Best..Drumeo Team!!
Get Tomas Haake please
oh god amen to that
Why the hell hasnt this shown up on my feed earlier!! I should have seen this 3 years ago!
I think I've had this on my watch later feed for three years. Just now getting around to watch it. lol
28:50 i love that he showed an exercise example that he messed up on. it just shows that even when you reach derek roddy status, you still have learning to do. very humbling. pure legend.
Imo he looks so much more comfortable and into it than he did 10-12 years ago. You can really see his progress.
Back then it was about speed. Now it's about longevity. Truly one of the first brutal drummers
glad to see Derek still has the chops! Good lesson too. You wanna play crazy metal? go play! Here's some stepping stones if you wanna tighten up
03:42 lol I don't think Derek is listening to the music he's playing, I'm pretty sure he has some jolly music playing in his in-ears while his muscle memory takes care of the extreme stuff he's playing.
hilarious
4:26 even more lol.
Ikr he seems so happy.
I have jelly babies dancing through my brain when I'm playing drums.
I think Derek is a Phenomenal drummer!!
Seeing Derek isn't a total machine and can struggle with a few exercises brings me new found hope!
This is one of the best lessons on metal drumming that I've ever seen.
Even though this Genre isn't my thing I have to say I am really impressed by Derek's insight and philosophy. I was hit by quite a few A-ha moments throughout. Thanks a lot Derek for teaching me some key concepts relating to speed & double kick balance as I have that "shuffle" issue. That lesson would have to be one of the best I have seen on Drumeo.
This is the way. Learn from as many different styles as possible!
*You know who would be a cool guest to have on? Richard Christy, from Death/Iced Earth/Acheron/Burning Inside/Charred Walls Of The Damned/Howard Stern Show.*
Thank you Derek and Drumeo! The idea of playing vs practice and plowing from A to Z is simply golden. Gratitude!!!
HOLY CRAP DEREK RODDY ON DRUMEO!!
Martti010 GOJIRA !
it's good.
Derek! Thank you so much for taking the time with Drumeo to put your experience out to the guys who want to up their level of playing. This production is a must for all double bass drummers! I truly appreciate Drumeo for this lesson from Derek!
Derek's speed and creativity within the genre changed the game for me; so happy to finally see a full length HD lesson with him!
Would love to see Alex Rudinger in Drumeo!
I just watched that one, and that dude is a freak.
Speaking of metal drummers... Please try to get Alex Rüdinger or Adam Gray to do a lesson! They're some of the best young metal drummers out there right now.
James Payne, Marthyn Jovanovic, Francesco paoli, Inferno, gene Hoglan, Nick barker, etc
Eetu Mellin Drums Jamie st.pat hamelin!!!
David Diepold too ! He can play up to 270bpm double bass.
Or Blake Richardson, if I may add.
Krimh? :D
Matt Garstka (again ), Chris Coleman, Matt halpern, Alex Rudinger
Literally my 3 favourite drummers right there.
id love to see an episode with nicholas barker that big guy needs and deserves more exposure and it would be great for his fans- we are many
neil maccannell I agree - his work with COF and Dimmu Borgir is top of the line. very few drummers are able to play fast/heavy with taste and finesse.
Derek might have gotten a little bit older-- maybe he lost a little bit of strength somewhere in his body-- it comes with age-- but he has progressed into this most refined drummer that went way beyond his limitations and expectations that he set forth for himself almost 30 years ago!!!!! I was with him back in 2002 before I went off to war for a year---they played a 12 song set and I’m here to tell you right now---it was a wall of drums and he was playing so hard and so fast you couldn’t even hear the beats it was just a constant measure of sound and strength!!!!!!!! I still remember this---he is inhuman!!!! Love you my friend!!!!! 🫡🇺🇸😘☠️☠️☠️☠️😎🙏
Fantastic Mr Roddy. Such finesse and power. You make it look easy.
That sparkly gold set :D very death metal, Mr Roddy!
Derek Roddy has the best Blastbeats in the game! thanks for all the work you`ve done for extreme metal drumming!!
awesome to see Roddy on here. Dude really makes any drummer appreciate the style
Derek plays the meanest, most brutal type of music but he's the nicest and mildest type of person. The video was fantastic through to the end, and the fitting climax for me was learning that Derek worked with Mitch Harris whom I love as a Death metal guitarist. That Menace track sounded wicked to me, and the drumming was brilliant. I'll definitely be picking that album up. Thanks Derek and Drumeo, this was ultra cool!
Really starting to appreciate when extreme metal drummers have a unique sound to their blasts like this.
THIS was a pleasant surprise! Been a fan since 2005 when I first heard Hate Eternal and the I, Monarch album.
It would be awesome if you could bring Matt Greiner ... Please :D
yessssss!
Gabi T. Yeah bring the heat!
YESSSSSSS PLEASE DRUMEO!!!
Such a humble guy, if I could get lessons from someone, it'd be this guy.
First time I've seen this bloke. Gotta say, he makes a lot of sense. For decades, I've played single kick. The last 2 years I've been trying dbles. Mr. Roddy is RIGHT ON THE MONEY !! You just have to get in there and do it. The more you do it, the easier it gets. Works for me.
Im working alot in a restaurant till night and im not having time toplay or practice ,but every night thanks to Drumeo and the AMAZING Drummers Im keeping my mind trained ;) Just can't wait to reach again my baby ;) THANKS A LOT DRUMEO !
I find it crazy how different his left foot is from his right foot when doing fast double bassing but it sounds so precise and perfect.
You may have noticed the Roland kick trigger box right beside his right floor tom. That's how you get the precise and consistent sound on both bass drums. Which is weird since Derek was trying to not user triggers at all in the past. Wondering what made him change his mind.
Easier to mix and improves monitoring a lot, might be optimal choice for a performance such as this. They have the bass drums mic'd as well, so might be a mix of microphone and trigger sound.
qlqnen I honestly love the sound of triggered bass drums. I rarely see people who agree with me though
Both my feet tend to be like his left foot, which is weird. So many people I know do the swivelly swiv to do the fast things, but I just seem to make it work like that haha
pugmonzzz For me it depends on the trigger sound. If it's an over-the-top click sound, I tend to dislike it (like Decapitated's Nihility), but in some cases even a clearly triggered sound can be appropriate and cool. Aeon's Bleeding the False on the other hand has a very distinct trigger sample and I think it only adds to the character of the album sound. I use the Alesis DM5 with what Gene Hoglan called "the only usable sound in the entire module" (paraphrasing) and it serves its purpose for monitoring and hearing my bass drums clearly during band practice. It's a decent sound if you can tweak it a bit further with an EQ, I think.
Bad Ass Intro and amazing way to start off this lesson! I have been a long time fan and student of Derek R. He's an amazing teacher and guy!Glad to see him still kicking the hell out of this skin!
One of my favorite parts is when Derek is trying to show his lesson and he messes them up several times. Its great because it shows he's a real guy and that his philosophy of playing the music over practicing the routines is true to form.
The things actually made very very much sense to me as a drummer who faces problem while playing/covering songs which are fast, and the thoughts running through my mind. Thanks for making this video, I could totally relate.
Thank you for putting this up. I was waiting for this one. I met this guy after a show and he's such a great guy and just loves drumming. Great lesson. Get Dirk Verbeuren next, please! :)
Awesome DW kit. Must be broken glass finish. I love Derek's skill. Amazing.
You guys should do a lesson with John Longstreth
Second this!
Mike Caputo that would be so amazing
Fuck yeaaaaaah
John Longstreth for sure. DO IT
Considering he still hasn't released his damn crowdfunded DVD that he recorded back in 2013, I definitely second this.
I've seen archspire live it was amazing
Still to this day Derek Roddy is my favorite drummer hands down
next time do a class with Gorge Kollias
Yes, it's on the schedule already!
Drumeo OMG 😱
I just came a little...too much information?
But derek is awesome Q-Q
AquaAnim yes , im not gonna deny that but Kolias is the king of blast beats
At 58:49, that burp! Really, Derek is the man!!!! :)
hahahahah you killed me
I enjoy listening to Derek talk drums........He does and excellent job of explaining his approach to the kit! Hoping to catch a Clinic soon. Please come to Atlanta
What an awesome drummer and a class act. Great video thank you!
16:34
I play heel up on both of my feet but i swivel with the left and keep the right straight when i play fast.
And as you say, whatever works, works!
I went to a Roddy clinic and he's such a cool dude. Super nice, willing to engage with everyone there. Would love to get a lesson from the guy.
He has to be the most laid back drummer I have ever seen! What a legend
Well done drumeo on getting Derek Roddy. What an amazing sounding kit. Happy! ☺
Mighty Derek Roddy is one of my favourite drummer
I met Derek one night as a kid in Soda City at the local staple named Rockafellas after seeing Deboning Method play. Such a humble guy even way back then. We helped him carry his drums out to his car and talked about music. Nice to see how far he's come!
I met him too after a gig what an awesome and cool dude!
This is so good man!!! Watching Derek kicking ass on drums is always a joy!!!
Such a humble great drummer love the interview part
Kai Hahto would actually be excellent to have on here. That guy has such huge variety and is really likeable too. Been drumming forever.
He is amazing. His drums sound amazing. His cymbals sound amazing. His kit *looks* amazing. Amazing. Everything about this lesson is amazing!
derek is right on the money! you gotta push this stuff and eventually you will get it. it will be sloppy but once you get it you make it stronger cuz youre pushing to go even faster and the slower speeds become easier to play and you get more control/power from the slower speeds as your climbing up the BPMs. pushing to say 170 bpm. once you can play 170 bpm for a set amount of time, 160 bpm should be easier and more powerful. worked for me. practice makes perfect. just gotta sit down and do it. paradiddle with a short roll worked wonders for my foot control as well
When I was a teenager, and death metal came to the scene, I always felt that thare was a lack of technique on the drummers, and tought about what could be done. Unfortunatly, I didn´t became a professional drummer, but I´m glad to see that nowadays there are many technical drummers pushing the playing level (and sounnding) up.
Foot control is insane wish I could do singles that fast 😆
Awesome! Can Drumeo please try to get Tim Alexander as a guest sometime?
Oh yeah! I agree!
37:32 that sounds so good!!
thank you drumeo for this lesson! Derek is a really kind and smart guy
I like what Derek said at 45:01, Where he had a student, who wasn't a metal drummer what so ever, play Angel of Death by Slayer, 5 times in a row(No matter how sloppy) everyday for 2 weeks. I'll give this method a try and see if it works.
I remember being blown away by his speed, now that I can do it, it doesn't look or sound so fast at all. Still among the 1% in the Metal category, up there w/ Hoglan, Haake, and Kollias. l'd like for him to play more jazz stuff because I know he can.
People like Roddy really inspire me, I remember him working at Resurrection Drums in Hallandale and talking to him, he said when everyone else was out at the beach, he'd be playin' drums. It shows.
Derek is such a sweetheart, but man does he kick ass!
I was waiting for it long time!!! seriously!! Thank You Drumeo!!
Subscribed ! Thanks drumeo for brining the extreme dudes lots to learn from them too
Such a humble great guy as well as an incredible drummer
What's up Derek! Joel Kindrick. It's been alot of fun following you on you tube over the years. My kids think it's cool as hell that I knew you from highschool. Now you travel the world making music and I am making nuclear fuel for a living! WTF? Anyhow the kids and I really enjoy your stuff. Good seeing you! Keep it up.
Best advice on drumming I heard so far
Man, you guys rock!!! Having Derek Roddy on Drumeo is a dream come true. When you have Gavin Harrison and Danny Carey, I will be able to die in peace.
Wow Roddy can play that fast with the heel down technique? I'm impressed :
You should really do one with Blake Richardson! What a drummer!
18:50 ❤ so true!
When are you guys going to get Hannes Grossman?
Actually a full lesson on open-hand drumming would be sicko as well.
f****ck yes!! dude that's so rad to see and hear Derek playing and Phrasing like how he initially inspired me to step up my game. hell yea man, get some
excelente clínica, increible sonido y proligidad la de Derek, saludos desde Argentina!
My buddy sold him weed lol, he showed him his snake collection. That was the extent of it🤷🏻♂️ rad drummer.
Venomous? I've seen his snake in videos but can't tell what it was.
36:15 no fking way this guy is sick
Gene Hoglan or Bobby Jarzombek next time please!
Great vid! Does anyone else think that an episode with some of the classic rock and metal drummers like Scott Travis, Dave Lombardo, Robb Reiner, Andy Parker, Alex Van Halen, Steven Adler and Rick Allen etc would be amazing?
Derek's one of those technical drummers that looks like he's having a blast when he plays.
DAAAMN !!! So great to ear Derek with DRUMEO nice drums/mixing !
Lectures students about using words like practice but repeatedly says he's gonna 'try something' like he isn't confident he couldn't do it
You know he played in malevolent creation, Nile, and Hate eternal , right?