Would Russia risk its partnership with China over using nuclear weapons in Ukraine? | DW News
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- Russia's military says it has begun tactical nuclear weapons drills near Ukraine.
The exercises are taking place in Russia's Southern Military District which, according to the Kremlin, includes parts of Ukraine under occupation.
Moscow says the drills are in response to threats from some Western officials. It's the first time Russia has publicly announced drills that involve tactical nuclear weapons while its strategic nuclear forces regularly hold exercises.
For more on this, we talk to Katarzyna Zysk. She is professor of International Relations and Contemporary History at the Norwegian Institute for Defense Studies.
And we talk to Mark Cancian. He's a retired Colonel in the US Marine Corps, and a senior Adviser with the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
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00:33 Interview with Katarzyna Zysk
04:49 Interview with Mark Cancian
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"China won't care. We are not using nuclear weapons. It's just special military projectiles." Russia
They're extra special! They destroy the world! They make the takeover of new territory meaningless by rendering it uninhabitable! All of this makes sense!
Hahaha Special Military Operation what bs ! RUSSIA AND UKRAINE ARE AT WAR !!!
Lol they won't care unless Russia launched the ICBMs, in which case whether China cares or not is the least of Russia's worries.
They aren’t risking anything with China, if anything all of this is coordinated WITH China. Staging nuclear weapons and running drills is not the same as launching them.
China doesn't even know which of its nukes has water in the fuel tanks lol.
China is loving this. Putin attacks/weakens Western resources while completely demolishing Russia's economy, future, and with nukes world support. In the end China takes back its Northern Territories Russia temporarily stole and annexed from China. Russia has no remaining friends or allies willing to counter China. Both China and US rational enough to realize the madness. World goes back to a cold war status of 'The West' vs 'China sphere'
China now has its own vast land-path oil supply, eliminated its current achilles heel of having mostly sea based oil.
Would make sense for China to actually bait Russia to use nukes.
@@notaspy1227you never did that research in that claim have you? “Filled with water” doesn’t mean their missiles were actually filled with water instead of fuel. It just means not operational.
And nato is the one escalating. And fascist Russia just doing another nuclear threat.
And now even running drills.
How do you know
The Chinese will still stick with the Russians
until they are all defeated then you can take your land back that Russia stole yes?
China won't stick with Russia as they want siberia remember that
Putin a little man hiding under his nukes....not even china support Putin...they won't stick with Russia if they use nukes...because a WWIII with nukes is the end of the world and ....China
@@edwardvalivonis23 China wants Siberia? B.S.
Give some evidence to support your claim. What would Siberia serve for the Chinese?
Have you ever looked at the map of China and Russia? How many people live in China near the border to Siberia?
Don't be too sure of that... they have their eyes on Manchuria.
Russia is not Afghanistan, Iraq, Gaza ect.
they are behaving no less uncivilized right now though
@@megapro125 You sure know how to win peoples hearts and minds .... Carry on, Western man.
It's not because it's even worse than all of those countries put together 😂
@@megapro125 tell us more about those wmd in iraq civilised person
A message to the future generations never make russia feel threatened
the difference between "looking dangerous" and "being dangerous".Russia
describes military doctrine as defensive military doctrine. With regard
to nuclear weapons specifically, Russia reserves the right to use
nuclear weapons: in response to the use of nuclear and other types of
weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies,in case of
aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the
very existence of the state is threatened
How do Russian nuclear weapons compare to the rest of the world?
Russia - 6,257
America 5,550
UK - 225
France - 290
China - 350
Israel - 90
Pakistan - 165
India - 156
North Korea - 40
Chinese had talks with Russia about it during Putin and xi visit. China says green light.
Where's all of the Chinese experts at?
Checking their missles for water in the fuel tank probably.
@@notaspy1227lol. Yes...all the Chinese corruption. Don't worry when xi pulls the same card. Chinese weapons don't work right? Lol
@@notaspy1227the West shouldn't be worried. Too much Chinese corruption
Rubbish. Trollski, learn to lie better.
Oh, so you were in the secret meetings? 😂
Dont forget that hiroshima was the same size as the "small" tactical is today...
shovels are evolving
They said exactly the same thing when Russia warned against NATO expansion. NATO believed Russia wouldn't actually invade because Russia had much to lose from their relationship with Europe but they were wrong.
So there's no certainty that Russia wouldn't use nukes if their warnings are ignored because Russia sees this war as existential and is willing to escalate as possible.
Putin is not the only one to decide about it and people around Putin love their luxury life and have no will to end it in the name of Putin's ego. Nato expansion is an excuse. Ukraine had no chance to join Nato. Putin invaded because he wants Ukraine as a part of Russia. Russia can do nothing without China's permission.
All seems pretty viable in the short term.. 3 years isn't long in the grand scheme of things.
To even be suggesting nuclear weapons wreeks of worry
Actually it is not existential for Russia, but for Pootin himself. The Russian empire will remain. But this loss will cost pootin his job and eventually his life. And the russian army always serves the interests of "Russin People" (Putin)
It’s only existential for the current regime, in most normal countries you embarrass yourself in a war, you fire the government and you move on. Apparently Russia is special.
Russia has already lost so much, a very much European country now basically has a few sort of friends left in Europe, but no one that’s prepared to go out of their way to help them, so they’re stuck with NK, Iran and not really China. If you think Russia has gained from this experience then please do enlighten us as to what.
even russias suggestion of nuclear weapons wreeks of worry for them
Russia didn't sign up for fighting against NATO which was meant to fight the USSR (a much bigger power compared to modern Russia), but if NATO wants to play those games Russia will respond accordingly. if NATO wants to use their numbers Russia will use their nukes against those new threats
@@dhanu_4539 the only one playing games and losing is russia. the only one defending itself is ukraine with help of allies. russia shouldn't have started invading countries with all sorts of wild claims and then whining about how bad it's doing.
The American expert gave good and clear comments, invite him again.
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Да ну
It bothers everyone. Nobody wants this except Putin.
Why?
Yeah why?
I assume because this is Russia getting ready to maybe actually launch a strike since we're in the middle of cold war 2.0 Electric Boogaloo
why they blurr the point of the missile ?
China is a big country because China culture is more tolerant than other countries. Do you know why China can occupy a big size of land in Asia equal to whole Europe and has so many different people to live peacefully? On the other hand, Europe has similar land size as China but Europe was divided to a few dozens countries which fight frequently among themselves.
The reason is Europe culture is not tolerant as China. For example If there is food they do not like, other people are not allowed to eat this food as well. One specific example: some minorities in China (about 1% to 2% of China’s population) near Vietnam and Korea eat dog. So some people in Vietnam and Korea eat dog as well. It is some people’s culture in Asia. China as such a big country is more tolerant to the different culture from different races and group of people. That is why different races of people in China get along and become one country.
In Europe there is no tolerance. They discriminate China because 1-2% of China’s people eat dog. The difference also make Europe hostile towards each other. That is why world wars all start from Europe.
Tactical nuclear bombs can actually wipe out entire cities. The bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were tactical. But no one mentioned it, so people think it's not a big deal.
Lousy journalism!
Way more powerful and give off less radiation
The ones used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not tactical for that period.. But now the incredible power of the nukes developed makes those seem tactical. But for that period, those nukes weren't tactical.. They didn't achieve small battlefield victories.. They defeated the whole of Japan...
Not lousy journalism, intentional journalism. Everything you hear from mainstream media is calculated.
@@Americanhonkee There is no such thing as a tactical nuke. There are small nukes, yes, but all nukes are strategic in nature. Nobody would use a 'tactical' nuke on a few dozen soldiers in the trench to achieve a 'small battlefield victory.' Instead, they would aim for a strategic target, such as an airport if F-16s were to fly from Poland against them, or they would aim to sink an aircraft carrier with all its planes. These are all strategic targets.
@@miroslavstevic2036 Tactical is more about desired effect than type of target.
The same target (eg.: a city) could be either a strategic target or a tactical target, depending on context. And no, a carrier battlegroup would still be a tactical target. Not strategic.
When it goes off all the TV analyst will be shocked 😲
Why do you think China dont want Russia to destroy NATO with nuclear weapons ?
they will have full dominance after a nuclear war between Russia and NATO who will destroy each other !😅
Dominance over what?, a world irradiated and can’t be traded with
probably because in a nuclear war they would get hit too. NATO wouldn't just nuke russia but everyone siding or associated with them too. they would not be able to sit it out.
No they won't. The nuclear fallout would still wipe out most of the human population
There will be no world left to rule
Umm, I suggest you go read up on how a full exchange would end, China would be devastated too, if you have nukes you’re getting nuked.
DW acts super ignorant about geopolitics just to get views.
you're the one who sounds ignorant to the rest of us lol
How do you know? Any chance you reject journalists writing eye-witness accounts and prefer TH-camrs? But how do THEY know what actually happens. It all circles back to those same journalists that DM among other employ. You didn't think of that did you?
It acts as a super ignorant due to western impotence against Russia. They are feeling defeated.
..they could even dock on asteroids and steer it to earth guided and not traceable either
Fallout movie the beginning
“We drop the bombs ourselves”
They’ve been threatening this for years
While scaring nobody.
@@notaspy1227In the West yes... But I'm sure Ukraine can tell a different story
They were also threatening to invade Ukraine for years. But nobody bothered to listen.
Absolutely, nuclear blackmail is almost central to Russian foreign policy
Iike US use sanctions as a weapon for other countries
A Farewell to "Arms" - E. Hemingway
how likely does a cop pull his sidearm in a fight when losing enough or enough danger?
"Southern Military District". Sounds like the perfect place for Ukraine and Georgia to share a land border.
Yep, as part of Russian state again.
Why did the news blure out the missile tips, are they not pointe 😂
Technically, "Tactical nuclear warheads" range from a fraction of a kiloton to approximately FIFTY KILOTONS. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were obliterated by weapons considered today to be low yield or tactical nukes.
That's correct, those two bombs are considered tactical nuclear weapons today. As a side note when we see the pictures of utterly destroyed downtown Hiroshima we must remember that many Japanese buildings of the era weren't as study as f.ex. German buildings. Afaik it wasn't uncommon for private homes to be made of paper. We probably hadn't seen the same level of destruction had the buildings been made of bricks or concrete.
Instead of regular shovels and washing machines, now they use glow in the dark shovels and washing machines.
Interesting video NATO is obviously not afraid of Russia's threats but it's very interesting to hear that China has warned Russia against the use of Nuclear weapons.
Well some tactical warheads have more yield than the ones dropped on Japan so regarding that "these dont wipe out a city"... there's that...
They would risk anything to secure their continued existence.
Like Putin should worry about China's reaction, when using nukes in Ukraine...
The Germans: “ooo, jaaa, nuclearrrr, big scarry”
more sabre rattling into the void
Would Russia risk being split up between the countries of the world?
You seriously have to ask what tactical nuclear bombs are? This information has been circulating for decades.
why is that a risk ? China is laughing right now .
Senpai!
What are they laughing about? Why?
In the beginning they said it is bluffing , believe the process
Who says they'd use them on Ukraine? The Russians have said very clearly that these nukes are aimed squarely at us.
Putin runs out of conventional bombs
Would the Austrian painter had used nukes (if he had one in) the face of possible defeat?
yes because you all have been telling ukraine to take out their strategic defense buildings for their deterrent.
they can't let that happen.
Joint sword....
Its a 1939 moment.
Russia regularly gives off small D energy. Most of their stockpile probably doesn't even work with how minuscule their military budget is.
😂😂😂😂😅😅😅 I believe you also think Ukraine is winning 😅😅😅😂
Houraaaaaaaaaaaaaa, with more than 2 Trillion $ military budgets of 42 countries, Russia still gaining ground in Ukraine 😊. Coalition if 68 countries in Afghanistan, we know what happened there 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂Ukraine is winning right ?
Well lets see if that’s true. ☢️💥
@@mikejohn2999 украина побеждает в заполнении своих кладбищ трупами
I want point to the DW News Anchors. A political degree holders are not Military experts.
DW expert does not understand difference between stargetic or Tactical nuclear weapons. Any nuclear weapon greater than 1 Megaton ton yield is Startegic Nuclear weapons less than 1 Megaton ton yield is Tactical Nuclear Weapons
Nuclear blackmail is empty. Both sides have the same deterrence. Using nukes would be tantamount to being nuked.
😂😂😅😅 Let me guess... You actually believe Nato will go to a nuclear war with Russia over Ukraine that is not even a part of Nato??? 😂😅😅😅 Damn ya'll crazy
@@thalentekhuluse2829 yes. They would, and you're foolish if you think otherwise.
@@timhaldane7588they would indeed. Kinda difficult to imagine US risking it all for say Poland or Baltics
I guess you've watched too much movies, so much so that you think a nuclear war is one of those action movies you watch@@timhaldane7588
@@timhaldane7588so you actually think the will risk their empires for Kyiv ?
Russia is doing well in the battle field? Thats the first i have heard of it
The Bear sharpening its claws, keep poking😂😂😂😂
Dont poke the bear, or it would get poopin' ☝️
the bear is toothless and dying, it's actually pathetic LOL
These childish threats are hilarious but humiliating for you aren't they?
Sharpening their claws by wasting all their arsenal in Ukraine? How does that work?
They are the only friends they have. 😂 Where else can they go?
Nuclear is nuclear, what going on
Russia actually using nukes doesn't even guarantee victory in Ukraine, it would be a very risky move which could seriously backfire
Yes it does in many ways.
this is a message to the pissfull nato countries
A message to the future generations never make russia feel threatened
the difference between "looking dangerous" and "being dangerous".Russia
describes military doctrine as defensive military doctrine. With regard
to nuclear weapons specifically, Russia reserves the right to use
nuclear weapons: in response to the use of nuclear and other types of
weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies,in case of
aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the
very existence of the state is threatened
How do Russian nuclear weapons compare to the rest of the world?
Russia - 6,257
America 5,550
UK - 225
France - 290
China - 350
Israel - 90
Pakistan - 165
India - 156
North Korea - 40
So...still you believe russia will loose.....😊😊
it would shock you. They will use nukes in Ukraine and NATO will do nothing because they're not a NATO member. You are playing with fire.
I like these girls both very professional and concise... the general was good too. what happened to the Russia desk guy with the mustache... havent seen him in a while now he is very pro.
The shovels are doing well in Ukraine
WGAF?
🤣🤣Please rephrase the title: Russia undertakes Nuclear Drills.
Because China plans to use nukes also
Really? Why would they do that?
You clearly think russia is iraq or Afghanistan
*Tactical nukes **_can_** destroy towns.* Ranging from 1 to 50 kilotons, it's not the yield that makes them tactical.
50 Kilotons may not wipe Berlin off the map, but it is a really bad decade for a whole lot of towns in Europe. What makes them tactical isn't the yield so much as the mechanism of detonation such that the weapons are very light (comparatively) and therefore deliverable by different means (smaller rockets, glide bombs etc...)
This is nonsense
why people care about what russia could do why people not talking about how US will respond?
Russia and China together with the other nuclear powers (US, UK and France) gave security assurances to Ukraine in 1994 in return for Ukraine surrendering their nuclear weapons. The main motivation was to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. China has numerous technologically advanced neighbours (Japan, Taiwan, S. Korea, Philipines, Vietnam etc) which could easily develop nuclear weapons for deterrence if they felt threatened by nuclear weapons. For this reason, China seems very unlikely to support unilateral use of nuclear weapons by Russia.
Oh didn’t realised Russia was wining in the battlefield
Russia doesn't trade its security for friendship okay.
So What!...like every other week...nothing new....can't do nothing whit them unless confirmed by 5 more ministers
Mark Cancian is very level headed and objective and communicates clearly about Russian real redlines. The lady analyst is just another west leaning propagandist out to score points.
Russia real red line man stop the nonsense? What redline?
Let's play harder 😁😁😁
Who was responsible for WW1, the West. Who was responsible for WW2, the West. And who will be responsible for WW3, off course, the West.
🥹😅😂🤣🥲
you must be smoking something potent you're hallucinating
All 3 wrong answers
You are not getting Z Buck out of this one 😅.
@@edwardvalivonis23 so ww1 and 2 were started by the east?? Serbia is in the east?? Austria-Hungary are in the east?? Germany too in the east?? Munich agreement that appeased the Austrian artist was done by some countries in Asia?
That’s a intimidating tactic’s of putin, he can’t do it. He cannot afford to be bomb by west.
😂😂
Those are special military projectiles not nukes...so china won't be bothered 😂
I think Russia already told western countries when they use nuclear weapons
The Russians are currently conducting non-strategic nuclear drills, not just tactical ones. The difference is significant and often underestimated. In addition to tactical nukes, non-strategic nukes include mid-range missiles capable of reaching any point in Europe within minutes. NATO cannot intercept Russian hypersonic missiles.
Russia cant realistically use nuclear weapons on a NATO country without receiving nuclear weapons in retaliation, it would be essentially Russia using nuclear weapons on itself.
"drills" just like the totally normal drills Russia held at Ukraines border right before it invaded Ukraine. Worlds needs to be ready to respond and it would be good to already have an agreement with India, China, Pakistan and all other nuclear states about the response.
The nukes are not for Ukraine. Ukraine is beaten. It's for those who have nukes
Russia is beaten too. Slowly taking down their population size and money
@Matthew-rp3jf the soviets lost 27 million in ww2. If not for them, we will be speaking German. Yet again, they are standing for us against the greater evil.
That’s ok then, we’ve both got nukes. Cool.
@@Matthew-rp3jf sure, keep watching BBC and CNN
Correct !
It just show the weakness and incompetence of a bully!
😂😂😂😂
Yes America the biggest bully
Do you mean Natanyahu?
No bully can be compared to western bully
Why are they called Nukes anyway?
Dont worry ,they are just bluffing
NATO better pull its finger out and sign them up and stop this craziness.
😂😂😂. China already agreed
If they were clever about it they would just say: "Well we're not moving the goal post. We won't use it unless NATO troops are deployed. It is out of our hands. Cause and effect." - Like the geopolitical move of chess. If they present it that way China might just say; they won't use it if you don't deploy troops and China might talk to NATO to try and not escalate. Keep it at it is. Do not escalate or change the goal post.
And then if NATO troops are deployed they could even just do an open air nuclear test in their borders.
NATO troops will enter Ukraine and Russia can't stop it
Getting the poorly-informed all worked up over nuclear weapons may drive viewership, but it hardly constitutes a public service. Russia is not on the verge of using nuclear weapons. Russia hasn’t proposed a ceasefire, much less terms for a peace treaty. Using nuclear weapons without having some sort of proposal on the table invites a reply in kind; i.e., a US warhead employed against a suitable target on Ukrainian soil. At the very least, we should expect a massive USAF operation in response against Russian targets in Ukraine if for no other reason than to discourage Russia from believing that use of nukes won’t get a reaction of equal or greater significance. That’s not what Russia is after. If Russia intends to intimidate Ukraine and the West into dancing to the Russian tune, Russia can hardly expect any dancing until the song is selected, the band hired, and the instruments tuned for play. There not being a song, a band, or a request for dance, Russia isn’t about to initiate nuclear warfare just for the sake of shocking Ukraine and the West. There’s too much that can go wrong at a time when Russia is not clearly losing the war.
It's not 1970s
@@adonidolquest7411 A meaningless statement until you expand on it. Brevity may be the soul of wit, but not everything brief is witty.
Chinese need washing machines too??
The US did nuclear tactics drills in the China sea 2 summers ago just sayin if anybody want to keep a memory running in their mindset
You have to know russia are so committed
Gaussian math blur is reversible, and that sure looks like Gaussian blur. 🤭🤭
If I could think of a good reason for Russia invading Ukraine I might not be against it. Can anyone tell me if NATO or Ukraine was ever a threat to Russia ? If anything, seems to me Russia's border with China was far less secure, but Putin wrongly assumed the Ukraine was an easy, and quite frankly more sexy target, Regardless, I've always believed this is all very personal for Putin, and he doesn't care who has to suffer for his ego including the Russian people.
Ukraine must have the same.
where is the lithuanian army weren't they going to fight for zelensky 🤔
Russia is getting weak that's why they are escalating their use of force
A truly strong country is one that stands alone against the herding of America and a few dozen NATO countries.
1:39 No, they absolutely are the type of weapons that can "wipe out whole cities". They are equivalent to Hiroshima, some smaller and some larger. Strategic weapons are not even imaginable.
a nuke is still a nuke the effects of a tactical nuke wont be as wide spread depending on the warhead, target ground or air burst still wouldn't want to be where one goes off where government's are not investing in civil defence
china(ie the chinese president, after all his opinion is the only one that matters) would see it as a show of strength. the only reason china is cold to russia is that russia has appeared to be weak.
Mark Cancian’s point that Russia’s tactical nuclear weapon deployment indicates their red line for NATO troops in Ukraine, while possible, is hollow because Russia will not use nuclear weapons. Why? Because they would lose their strongest ally China, as well as India.
they will use a nuke if russia senses a defeat in ukraine ,nobody will loose any allies bcz that use will be justified ,thats what you want to believe bcz deep down you dn't like russia plain and simple your hatred skews your intelligence .if russia was that weak why was a no fly zone not imp. over ukraine ?why weren't there any official un/nato troops on ground ? why are countries still trading heavily with russia ? at least be logical
Why you don't ask Russia you keep asking these lying analyst 😂
You need to ask the right question: will the China-Russia partnership prevent Russia from using nuclear weapons if provoked by NATO countries such as France and Britain?
No one attacks Russia, no one provokes Russia
Provoked????...hahah Russia invades Ukraine...and NATO is provoking..
When was the last time France or the UK threatened to destroy civilisation by using nukes? Russia does it constantly, which alone is a disgrace
@@javierderivero9299your naivety is interesting, if not a testament of your level of comprehension.
@@kwalelalipimile3894 Do you have any argument???...or just insulting
Would China risk its partnership with Russia over using nuclear weapons in Taiwan ?
LOL! Change the title
China has ok Russia nuclear military drills. The international community supports Russia in this regard.😂😂😂😂
Africa and Venezuela isn’t the international community
@@brazendesignsAfrica and Asia support Russia and they're far more in number than the dot in a circle (the West)
@@brazendesigns 😂
so China gave their vassal state russia permission?
Poor countries and other dictatorships. What a company.
Boom!
Is it a 3 day one . 😂🤣😂
Russians are indeed very patient people.
But to believe and hope this patience will last forever is very very naive.
If cornered Russia will ABSOLUTELY SURE use all means at their disposal to make sure Ukraine never join NATO.
End of story!
Poland and the Baltics joining NATO: didn't harm russia.
Finland and Sweden joining NATO: didn't harm russia.
Ukraine joining NATO: is somehow a major threat to russia...?
Plus nato is a pretty stagnant alliance. Most members don't meet their military gdp expenditure. Russia basically uses the alliance as a false boogy man an they know it. At one time in the 90s Russia was going to be offered membership
Ukraine is not Russia's backyard and Nato is just another excuse for Putin. He invaded Ukraine because he wants Ukraine and he does not even consider Ukraine to be "real country". If Russia does not like countries around her joining Nato, maybe Russia should really try and stop giving them good reasons to join. Ukraine had no chance to join and had no will to do so before 2014. Putin got what he wanted and invaded anyway. Why? Because he thought it would be easy to overrun. He was wrong. Russia is not even super power anymore. Get over it.
@@thegreatdane3627 It is a threat for Russia's greed and Putin's sick idea to overrun Ukraine. He wants Ukraine as a part of Russia. Nato is an excuse, not a reason. Ukraine had no chance to join. Russia always needs excuses and blames others. It s all about Putin's legacy.
@@thegreatdane3627 Look at the consequences of ukraine joining NATO!
Russia and China have a mutually beneficial partnership. 🐻🇷🇺🤝🇨🇳🐉
Comedy starts when two blonds discuss the military exercises
Russia would never launch their missiles first and would only do so if NATO launches their missiles first. China and Russia = "friendship without limits" ... Xi Jinping 🇨🇳💪💞
Nice bot you are "without (nuclear) Limits. Read the fineprint...