Zhongli is actually the perfect character for Asmon if he ever plays the game, as he gets to face tank everything & ignore mechanics like he does in every game.
"Just the chinese community" is an understatement, their update streams there on popular gacha games could easily reach millions more than the SEA, JP and western fans combined
@@MichaelKing015 A lot of them were assaulting people, hacking their servers just being butthurt over a game. Ever heard of them killing a cat because it looks like scaramouche? Whether it is true or not, it doesn't change the fact that there are people there who had the guts to be proud of doing it (or about to do it) as if they are doing a favor. No, he doesn't cry like them. there are those (not everyone) in china that are known to do such deed and be a different breed.
as a genshin impact player, i can vouch that my favorite streamer tectone was the only person on the entire planet that thought zhongli on release was fine
To be fair Hoyo did him dirty. Story wise, he is supposed to be one of the most powerful people in the entire world. There are mountains and sceneries that exist because of the meteors he threw at his enemies. Yet somehow he had absolutely shit damage on release. He was just there to provide shields. Him belonging to the worst and most neglected element in the game also didn’t help
Also remember that since this is the God of Liyue aka China. Him being weak as basically a huge insult to Chinese people. Same for Dan Heng Imbibitator Lunae. Another Chinese god and now he's pretty op. Granted for him i think he was meant to be the exception not the rule in terms of power since China.
After all the buff to Geo its still shit as an element even now lol. I mean sure you could use geo characters with proper investment and beat abyss but overall its still shit compared to other elements.
@@nakhart yeah. Geo is absolute garbage. It’s my favorite element and has my favorite characters but I hate playing them because of how horrible it is. I quit playing genshin last year because I realized that Hoyo will never make me enjoy Genshin
@@Mempavrai I feel like you are just commenting to farm hate or something. Bro, please get a life. There are so many better things to do than farm hate on a youtube video
The Zhongli story is hilarious. Goes from being trash to literally Godlike. With Zhongli you can faceroll the entire game and never dodge a single attack.
Zhongli's trailer showed him literally standing still while a bunch of enemies attacked him doing zero damage to him. Countless people somehow thought this meant he'd suck at defense and be the best damage-dealer in the game. I was facepalming for weeks.
There are STILL people today thinking he was meant to be a dps just cause it was stated his ult could do “massive dmg”. Genshin playerbase is always overwhelmingly negative towards tank/beefy units
@@BrntBiscuit It was more than that. His Character Miscellany began by describing his normal attacks as powerful, giving a wrong impression of the character from the onset.
3:07 The Hoyoverse Chinese community has some legit insane people: like the dude who pulled to Mihoyo HQ with a knife or like the recent Wanderer controversy where some people got doxxed over some Reddit post
The even worse part is that one of those incidents was the honkai third community and the other was genshin. Only further cementing the fact that it isn't just genshin players. Turns out gacha addicts are deranged regardless of what game they play. Weird.
The geo resonance buff actually made Geo viable and much stronger. Ningguang became a hellfire barrage, Noelle went from just a shield buff to an insane tank with huge damage and crazy heal with near 100% uptime. Was actually satisfying to play Geo.
@@CommentPositionInformerxiangling literally hinges on Bennett to be viable. If anything xingqiu is the one who's gotten BETTER with dendro existing. Xiangling has long become a fossil of the past. You people act like this character is a god without properly building her. She desperately wants C4, she has an absurdly high ER requirement and her best free weapon is literally gated behind like 100hrs of gameplay before you can even UNLOCK fishing in inazuma to get the catch for her. And don't even get me started on how badly modern teams are just blowing all of hers out of the water and it's not close.
Part of the reason why CN ppl are the most mad about that Zhongli drama was also bcs he was supposed to be the god that "represent China", just to add some context. In Genshin, each regions have a motif based off real life countries, and each have their own gods. Zhongli was actually a god for the region that's supposed to represent China, so the CN community was pissed on his release bcs they fucked up CN representation. ._."
The video didn't accounted what probably was the trigger of the buff: Zhongli was the archon of Liyue, also known as not china, so the chinese fanbase got even more offended that the god that represents the country of China is one of the weakest ones there is, and took it as an insult and disrespect to the whole country, and they threaded on that way of thought, spiraling it into even being a pseudo anti-nationalism. This is likely what set off all the alarms, because to date, no other character has been buffed directly as him. Take the example of Dehya. Dead on arrival, still dead. Some people say she's so bad that's even worse than Qiqi.
Qiqi, and I know people will laugh when I say this, was actually the best healer in the game for a while...it's just that she was so good at it that she was bad. She healed for so much off field, applied cryo for melting, and could mark enemies for healing... the problem was that she did so much healing that it was a complete waste to use her rather than just go for damage or buffers instead like Bennet or Diona. The opportunity cost for running Qiqi was much higher but her potency was overefficent.
They even reported it to CCP, accusing mihoyo of unpatriotic conduct. I swear Chinese are crazy stupid over video game 😂. Dehya are just unfortunate since the polls in CN shows that she's the most hated character. Mihoyo just took this opportunity to make a true trash 50/50 lost unit instead of a mid tier one's.
@@PixelleHearts yup, but to go a bit deeper, one of her biggest issues was that she had no way to produce energy AND had a costly burst. For a support/healer, this is the worst thing you can do to them. Imagine having to rely on other supports to funnel energy into your support lmao
Zhongli's current state, best shielder in the game, you basically ignore 90% of enemy mechanics because his shield lets you facetank it without being interrupted. If your willing to give up the damage from his party slot, you basically live on easy street because you can't die.
i don't think zhongli can hold back any team because of this imaginary "dps loss" statement, 2-3 character is enough to 36 clear spiral abyss floor 12. he brings so much comfort and also not everyone can play the same
@@lancer9257He's DPS loss on freeze team and national team variations tho because he ruined elemental reaction and even on bloom team because if you use him with Nilou her passive will be deactivated. Fast switch teams don't need him at all too because most the time youre in I-frame. Honestly all characters that are Dependant on Zhongli are not meta anyway (Yoimiya, Wanderer, Cyno, Xiao) except Hu tao but once you get her c1, Zhongli feels useless on her.
in the game before his buff, geo element like this character has little to do with the game mechanism in damage (elemental reaction) this game damage revolve around that. then his shield was on par with 4 star character that is easier to get copies from various sources, which angers players , "wtf is this 5 star archon?" . that was not the first time they made wonky or bugged character kit, but on zhongli case because CN players are making protest, they heard it and fix it. if not i doubt they will do anything about it. yae miko also has some probllems with her kit when released but not getting fixed till some complaints grow bigger in CN players, she finally get some fixes. . there are many things that needs fixing in the game that kills even new players motivation to upgrades the new characters, one of them is how materials to ascend (upgrade) characters like yae miko is locked in the deepest, farthest place enkanomiya through many quests, so if you got yae miko using $$, she will stay useless till you unlock the boss in enkanomiya. they can fix this with providing material exchange in gacha tab with limited amount (so that players needs to go to boss for further upgrades) but nothing done till now
Its severely understarted how weak On release zhongli was. You get more value using other shielding character like diona or even noelle since their shield would actually sticks after a couple of hit. And ningguang exist. You can get insane damage from her with proper investment, some constellation and you will still have a shield with the amount of resonance you get.
Other characters have been buffed, but often its a shadow buff that's not announced. E.g., Keqing doesn't step back as much after her charged attack, allowing her to better spam her best attack properly; whereas, in the past every two hits meant you were out of range.
It also didn't help the fact that around this time, another controversy on a different game of Mihoyo occurred, which was the Global Anniversary for HI3, and the Fu Hua bunny suit incident. For starters HI3 have different versions of the game. There's Global, Chinese and SEA (not sure if Japan has its own, can't remember) Basically, a lot of Chinese players identified/claimed that Fu Hua represents the Chinese playerbase, so when the Global Anniversary dropped with bunny costumes for characters including Fu Hua in a bunny costume, a lot of them were livid, to the point that Mihoyo ended the event early, apologized to the Chinese players and compensated them for an event that wasn't event supposed to be for their version of the game. Furthermore, Global players were compensated with just a tiny morsel of compensation compared to what the Chinese players received. This angered a lot of Global players. A lot of these players, who played Genshin as well, were already frustated on how Mihoyo feels like they have preferencial treatment based on player region, which have driven players to quit all games by Mihoyo.
Ah yes, the country where Mihoyo was based at the time got preferential treatment. The same company that got death threats from their Chinese fanbase until they caved and gave the previously mentioned compensation and removed said video that offended *ONE* portion of their fanbase because of the backlash. That just *SCREAMS* preferential treatment and not attempting to avoid having their office blown up or their employees killed or injured.
@@Mobius_118 if its some non chinese person issuing death threats and all that, they wouldn't bat an eye. Both regions had extremes yes, but only one had its desire granted, so yes it is preferential treatment.
@@aren_gee "You try appeasing to everybody, you end up pleasing no body." No matter who they sided with here, a portion of the player base was going to be pissed off. So they did what any company with a semblance of financial smarts did and appeased to the significantly larger portion of their player base. Was it preferential treatment, not really since the event was sparked by a GLB exclusive event that pissed of the Chinese player base. If anything, GLB was getting the preferential treatment up until that point (and before you think I'm stanning for the Chinese server, no, I absolutely fucking hate them for taking that from us. I'm just not blind to the larger picture).
@@Mobius_118 thats the thing, the event was not for them. It was supposed to be for GLB, yet they took it away because MHY listened. The chinese version of HI3 is separate and they have different events catered to them. You don't hear GLB players getting mad thay they don't get the same events the chinese players had at the time...? GLB players has been complaining a lot with Genshin around that time too but they didn't listen, but when the chinese players complained, they immediately complied. To me, that's preferencial treatment. Chinese playerbase will always be priority, the rest of the world, no matter how much money gets thrown at them, will always be 2nd class citizens. It is what it is.
He is actually really bad at release. To the extent that a c0 4 star character kit is much better than his at c0. Also adding to the fact that Venti (the first archon that's been released) trivialized the game with his elemental burst.
4 star shielder like diona can be bought from exchange, which makes them even better than pulling zhongli that time. geo element has shit elemental reaction anyway, if theres nothing special from zhongli that time, why he is made an archon character lol. the players rage is correct in this case
Women, men and even your grandma THIRST for him. At that time he was HYPE and up till now he is STILL the most popular male character, and when he didn't delivered people from all over the world became rightly livid.
Zhongli was my favorite Sub DPS since his release and he only got better with time. Just like Osmanthus wine, but where are those who share the memory?
Clever little Asmon waiting for the Zhongli re-run to re-visit a controversy several years old to farm Genshin viewers. HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT. But he will. Because it worked on me again.
"I WILL HAVE ORDER" "Sir, this is a Wendy's". Zhongli's release was legitimately one of the wildest drama rides in genshin's history. The promotional material trying to sell him showed him being a crazy powerful DPS and CC monster, but on release he was a garbage tier support character, and this was at the height of the games popularity during major story events specifically revolving around him. People were legitimately pissed with how he was improperly marketed and even before his release there was only like 2-3 earth element characters (greatsword maid girl, and the merchant mage MAGA mommy) and earth element interactions were absolutely garbage. If you actively used 2 earth element characters in your party you were actively hindering your progress because of how garbage earth element was before it got buffed. Zhongli needed needed both buffs, ignore what Tectone says, because he put god tier accessories onto the character that he pulled from another character to show how "good" he was after spending thousands of dollars turbo-pimping out his characters by that time. In very specific and particular instances Zhongli could be powerful with top tier equipment, but if you didnt have said top tier equipment, Zhongli was a miserable character to play with even if you tried building a team around him. Hence why he needed 2 sepearate buffs, because he was still terrible to play with but also GEO element was miserable to play with. and when they addressed both issues everyone was happy with both Zhongli and Geo element in general.
The geo element still sucks. The resonance is good but the more important part are the elemental reactions and geos is bad. Apart from zhongli, the geo characters are very underwhelming.
i remember this. pretty much people were really excited for zhong since he was built up to be this crazy powerful god and they were expecting him to be a crazy dps char. when he was released though all he could really do was put shields on your chars and do a single major burst damage per ulti which is still his thing but back then he was not even the best at doing it. then mihoyo buffed his shields and atleast untill i stopped playing genshin, using zhong was like playing the game on easy mode. honestly i think one of the big reasons behind this was because this was really early on in the games development and their were not all that many popular characters yet, even though he was male zhong was one of the most popular characters design wise at that time. also keep in mind that the way genshin works, support chars are usually only something you switch into for a second to cast their abilities whilst dps chars are the ones you spend the majority of your time playing. so if people wanted to main zhong it was almost impossible considering he was a support. this is why genshin players prefer it when chars are dps over support or they want them to have an ability that allows them to be dps temporarily like the lightning god can. i think mihoyo learned their leasson with zhong which is probably why they made it so the lightning archon had an ability that turned her into a dps temporarily despite being a support.
"why did they add guys into the game" dude, as a straight guy, i can say with confidence that zhongli is the best waifu, besides maybe yae miko and the raiden matching him, his voice is seriously soothing. like, he only got this attention because he was such a beloved genshin character, ironic because one of the most loved genshin characters is a dude. lmao.
Zhongli actually became the most OP character after the buff and they released a whole series of mobs to try and indirectly nerf him but it didn't really work. He's still absolutely meta for any character that has a hard time DPSing and staying alive/not being interrupted. And he is still gamechanging to have for other teams if you're not very skilled.
He is good character to have, but at the same time he is far from being meta, in fact i dont think he is used on any meta teams, there is always someone that can do a better job than him in any team, talking about only meta cuz ofc he is viable in a lot of teams and is very versatile
@@almor3270 Depends what you consider meta. If you only think the absolute best couple teams are meta then sure. I consider anything strong enough to clear abyss 12 comfortably with F2P builds meta. So that would mean most likely 1 attempt, not much luck/skill needed. In which case characters like Lyney, Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Wanderer all like to have a shielder and Zhongli is the king of shields. Most of the strongest teams lack defensive capabilities and while they may clear abyss a little faster, it can easily lead to restarts if you get hit a couple more times than you should. Which probably leads to longer overall time spent on the clear.
@@THExJMC I wont negate that is really comfy playing with him since you are almost immortal with him in the team, i would say tho in the point where you can 3 man the floor 12 with him in the team is really far from being f2p friendly imo but is indeed as you say quite easy once you are there. I personally consider meta what allows you to clear faster with low account time inversion. Like for example, i cant do it at all, but the record to clear floor 12 full stars for a new create account is 4 days (f2p btw, and is on youtube and bili bili), obviosuly there is ceartain degree of skill needed for that. So in conclusion i would say our definition of meta quite different as you said.
@@almor3270 That makes sense as well, however by that definition pretty much only a good main dps would be considered meta as that’s pretty much all you need to be able to clear abyss. It’s a little harder these days but pre-sumeru most abysses were very easy. That record with 4 day clear i believe relied on a really good reroll, lots of game time and probably the easiest abyss we’ve ever had. With that being said, Zhongli’s benefit is not just his shield, which is what was implied by saying a 3-man clear. The dmg shred, milileth buff and zhongli’s own dmg for small onfield time are all pretty decent. Not to mention not having to dodge and not being interrupted also massively increases your dmg output. Even his burst is great dmg in an AoE scenario or against mobs that move around a lot.
Funny he mentions all those improvements hsr has gotten since release meanwhile the game itself is somehow still much less enjoyable somehow. I say this as a huge fan of turn based games too. Shit is being hard carried by the sheer amount of hard cope the community huffs over quality of life meanwhile the gameplay loop remains this reptitive autoplay checklist of chores with a story thats somehow written WORSE than inazuma lmfao
nah bc how hsr feel like work compared to genshin idk if its bc ill login to do commissions then end up exploring randomly for hours 😭 but hsr feels repetitive bc finished getting all map loots and running autoplay just hogs my phone and i cant do smth else at the same time
Also, not a lot of people know this, but Zhongli's buff is the reason why there are 2 divided sides of Geo dmg. On one end, you have the Geo character's who do booku dmg, but are niched by their element (Itto, Navia, Ninguang) and on the other hand you have Geo character's that are built JUST to support and who's dmg does next to nothing. So like, yeah you have character's that are nice and really cool that everyone generally plays. But for example, who plays or main's Garou? He was literally created to buff Itto, so if you don't have Itto why would you use Garou in any situation?
People were stupid back then. During the top tier dps poll, Childe ended up right next to Zhongli. Now, who stood the test of time? Certainly not Diluc. ;P
One of the things I found really respectable about the Zhongli buffs is that they did it after the banner was over. It would've been easy to buff him very quickly and create some more hype sales at the end of the banner but they didn't. They took their time and did it right. That being said, what the fuck was pre-buff Zhongli holy moly...
I'm surprised that out of this entire video, not once was it mentioned that Zhongli was the god of the Genshin realm based off of China and Chinese players were trying to report the game to the Chinese government for being unpatriotic because Zhongli was so bad at release.
Yeah what you said is one of the reasons why they buffed him. That and 2nd is it would push away potential whales or spenders and 3rd is that lots of players would assume that archons wouldn't be as powerful but look at how it turned out. Since Raiden release and the next archons are really good on release.
Zhongli was the only character they ever buffed and to this day he's a very strong support and a requirement for certain teams. What Mihoyo seemed to learn after this (other than "make the archons super powerful") was to give indirect buffs instead. Stuff like adding new artifact sets with passive effects that perfectly compliment certain characters (Kokomi & clam). The whole electro element was always seen as weak, but the new dendro element essentially made all electro characters a lot more powerful. Right now with Dehya being seen as the weakest character due to being a damage reduction unit in a game with shielders, but upcoming Fontaine characters all have abilities that activate when losing HP/being at low HP, so Dehya's probably gonna be a lot more useful soon. Kinda smart, really. From a social aspect, they've now pre-empted outrage by creating this expectation that weak units will make sense later when new mechanics get added in.
It's not something they learned later down the line, they've litteraly did that as early as 1.2 with the adition of the hydro and cryo artifact sets, all that stuff is planned in advance and we've had many characters that seemed weak at first actually become really good once the meta changes, don't forget that they develop shit months if not years in advance
@@ziebus904 There's litteraly the two sets in dragonspines that buffed every cryo and hydro characters in existence back then but yeah let's just ignore that so we can nitpick and complain about next character because it's not as strong as previous character right?
@@oui7171 hydro was only childe and cryo was only ganyu and keaya and for keaya it was not good upgrade till kazuha you cant put 1set in the domain you need 2...those sets buffed only 1 fucking character and it was tartaglia
It's still some characters, it still shows they planned shit in advance because it's what they've always done, you can't just say it's not enough because it clearly happened, and then you can't ignore the powerhouse that is the emblem set that came out in 2.0 and instantly became best on slot for bunch of sub dps
I think Asmon needs to react more of CN players Drama , its interesting for me to watch because i too wanna all the stories 😊 Edit : i mean Juicies CN Drama ever 😂
tbh, the outrage was understable, his lore definitely hit harder than anyone on the game. he is literally the strongest among all, liyue region's iconic landscapes are because of his battles, but he sucked at released no doubt. he definitely did not live up to the hype and his lore that time
If I recall, they buffed the fuck out of him and other shield based characters. I don't play it anymore but that last time I did, he was meta in every single party and that includes Spiral Abyss runs.
He is still meta if you want the strongest shield in the game since you would basically forget the dodge button most of the time and you won't need a healer in his team unless you encounter enemies that bypasses shields which are few and far in-between. He is also the only one with the universal elemental shred so his team comp is very versatile.
His shield is so busted that Mihoyo realized that players who had him didn't actually need to use any skill. They could just pop his shield and face tank. So, they then proceeded to make new enemies either bloated with HP or ignore shields entirely.
He's both Meta and not Meta, he's the best general shielder but there are some teams that prefer other shields as well. Also if you can just dodge the enemies, which is often the case, you don't really need him.
Only geo shields got buffed. That means Noelle's shield got buffed as well. His direct buffs are additional HP scaling, interruption resistance on skill cast, and res shred. The rest of the buffs are coming from geo buffs as a whole.
I remember that whole thing happening and me being happy that i got my 2 star zhongli but holy crap when that buff came out it was insane how OP it made him. Genshin and a minecraft mod called dungeons, dragons and space shuttles gave me so much entertainment after being let down by cyberpunk 2077.
Honestly I dont get the stigma around genshin when its honestly so unlike any othwr anime rpg. Like compare the fanservice in Azure Lane or even their own sister game Honkai Impact 😭 Genshins really mild, and was made for the majority, not the degenerate minority of guys that usually play these types of games. Literally none if the children are sexualized, thats a weird joke made because non fans sexualize them?? all the weird shits surprisingly coming from OUTSIDE the game
and by outside ion even mean the fandom, its like specifically the part of players that skip everything just so that they can fight and spend on their waifus then get bored and shit on the game and fap to r34 of the girls
Some people might not know this, but Genshin and miHoYo is actually highly criticized in China, mainly for Plagiarism (if you have played BotW, you'll know) but also many other reasons like marketing, microtransanctions, designing, PR etc.,. Whenever someone say something very stupid on social media, it is guaranteed that someone else will say something like "do you play Genshin? Becuase if you do, then it's not your own fault that you are this stupid" We hate plagiarism too, Tencent has very bad reputation in China, one of the major reason is for that. But to be honest ourselves, the real reason for people to hate Genshin is because its target customers.
2:18 it's exactly like that, there are many good characters that are not archons , you don't really know what you are gonna get with non archons, they could be on par with archons or just a waste of money and resources, but archons are supposed to be a guaranteed hit cause they are gods, while everyone else is a hit or mess, so that's people get more excited about archons because they KNOW hoyo can't fuck up this one, it's a god and it should be a legendary character
You gotta remember that Liyue, the nation that Zhongli rules over, is based on China. So a chinese game having a chinese-based god is a pretty big deal, yet they fucked it up anyway upon release.
What do you mean it was way bigger back then? It's colossally more popular now than it was back when it launched. You just heard more about it because it was new.
I can kinda understand Asmons genshin hate but this is far from just a phone game. I play on pc and ps, but you can legit be a f2p in this game. It's gonna suck having to pass up banners but its doable. Also that guy who spent 2k on klee is legit a genshin content streamer and youtuber. He always spends crazy amounts of his viewers money on the game.
the hype for Zhongli was unreal, on a different level of insane, he even was on the news everywhere because the hype was so crazy, Genshin would be in a different place to this day i believe if not for the zhongli incident as it was the thing that changed the direction of genshin forever. He was just so garbage on launch it was hard to believe and they ruined the game imo, they buffed him but it was too late. they would have mades 00's of millions from from him, the game is still doing well but lost a lot from that debacle, it was the incident that made me stop spending in genshin and i just could not recover my joy for the game after that and the dehya situation was even worst and compounded the end of my time with genshin and in HSR they just released Dan IL and he is basically zhongli and this time they made him completely broken because they knew not to make the zhongli mistake again
Tbh the game needed that because even after all these buffs Geo, while still being my favorite, is actually the weakest element in the game as of now. Only this controversy saved the element for some time.
Funny thing is Zhongli was actually pretty good on release, his day-1 shield was enough to trivialize the game, but the buff made him completely busted. This video made a good job of showing how Genshin's community is probably one of the worst one, pretty glad I left the boat long ago
Based on what I can recall there were a few main reasons people were upset. These aren't in any particular order. The first was the assumption that his meteor would turn enemies into pesuedo-constructs while they were petrified. This was because holding his skill would detonate all nearby contructs for damage and give you a shield, which would have been a neat mechanic if enemies could be temporarily be constructs. Unfortunately this was not true and was thought to be a cut mechanic. The second was that during his attack animation his weapon would flash with the Geo colors, which people assumed meant it would deal Geo damage. This was also not true and was also thought to have been a cut mechanic. Third was that his shield wasn't very good. It was only resistant to Geo attacks, of which there were very very few. Everything else dealt 100% damage to the shield so they'd be removed very soon after using them. Fourth was that his energy gain was poor which meant you needed another Geo character to give him the energy. Fifth was that being a Geo character he would clear other elements off of enemies for the very weak Crystallize reaction. This is seen as a detriment since it interfered with your other reactions. Sixth was that of the artifacts available at the time, none of them were very good for Zhongli. It wasn't until Dragonspine where he got a good set made for him. Seventh was that Geo isn't very good in general. A big mechanic for strong enemies were elemental shields which are dealt extra damage by opposing elements, which Geo didn’t deal with very well and still doesn't. Eighth was that his meteor animation is just too long. By the time the animation finished you could have done quite a bit of damage if you did anything else. At the time it seemed like he had a lot of downsides and no real good upsides that would make him interesting or worth picking.
Also, another factor, he is a limited 5*, meaning more rare, and pretty much Geo MC, Noelle or Nigguang, of which two were 4* and the other the default character outperformed him in all aspects, and didn't bring anything of worth until they were forced to buff geo and him as a whole
i think it was because mihoyo hyped him so much and he got nerfed so much because he was performing too well at c0 to encourage people to spend for constellations. and tbh this is a scammy move, which is already happening with the new units. and lets not talk about 4* needing cons 4-6 to be at least useful except for the outliers like benny and kuki
I mean most 4's don't need cons to preform well, the good 4's anyway. Of the useful 4's only Faruzan and Thoma feel like they really need cons. Gorou, Xingqui, and Kuki all really want cons to do better as well (as many as you can get on Gorou and Xingqui, Kuki getting an effective 25% dps bump in hyperbloom at C2) but all function well without cons. Sara is C6 reliant as well but the only way you play her is with C2 Raiden anyway.
Zhongli is actually the perfect character for Asmon if he ever plays the game, as he gets to face tank everything & ignore mechanics like he does in every game.
Genshin is too fcking easy to for a tank to exist. You don't need a nuclear shelter to avoid firecrackers
@@blackstarksakata5050that's where people are wrong sigh
Geo grandpa still needs some investments to give those shields though.
@@blackstarksakata5050 you clearly forgot the two fuckin animals in 3.7 abyss
@@blackstarksakata5050Tell me you haven't played genshin without telling me you haven't played genshin:
"Just the chinese community" is an understatement, their update streams there on popular gacha games could easily reach millions more than the SEA, JP and western fans combined
but the frail chinese people cry over the smallest things all the time
@@mynamejeef7166and? Don't act like you don't the same way
@@MichaelKing015 A lot of them were assaulting people, hacking their servers just being butthurt over a game. Ever heard of them killing a cat because it looks like scaramouche? Whether it is true or not, it doesn't change the fact that there are people there who had the guts to be proud of doing it (or about to do it) as if they are doing a favor. No, he doesn't cry like them. there are those (not everyone) in china that are known to do such deed and be a different breed.
@@mynamejeef7166 Just mention Taiwan and watch them implode.
@@AmaitaYumebut then again it is not a chinese specific thing. You'll see a lot of toxicity in other communities too.
Waiting for Asmon to play the game is like waiting for the end of Hunter x Hunter. It's never going to happen.
Right??? 💀✋
I'mma say it. *GOOD*
😂😂😂😂😂the frick is that people get so caught up in genshin they need a real life
Until sponsor comes knocking
1:25 off topic, but why was he laughing?
the zhongli buffs and geo buffs were a 100% satisfying response. well done hoyo.
yea.
also I pulled him a day ago and It's nice
as a genshin impact player, i can vouch that my favorite streamer tectone was the only person on the entire planet that thought zhongli on release was fine
The clown 😂
@@Logic105 The king*
@@Logic105bro was using whaled out Zhongli and still got whooped in the abyss when he was saying Zhong is fine 😭
@@alreadyd1d in classic tectone manner
LOL
We're gonna be chilling in Khanr'ieah by the time Asmon arrives in Mondstadt in, like, 2028.
Nah bro I’d say 2030 at the earliest
Assuming Asmon will play the game
Genshin lore is gonna finish before Asmongold plays it :v
Mihoyo gonna make another hit game after Star Rail before our Goblin King plays it💀
Good
He did play it. He quit
As long as the reaction videos do well, why would he ever waste effort playing it?
To be honest bro he is whale not a player
To be fair Hoyo did him dirty. Story wise, he is supposed to be one of the most powerful people in the entire world. There are mountains and sceneries that exist because of the meteors he threw at his enemies. Yet somehow he had absolutely shit damage on release. He was just there to provide shields. Him belonging to the worst and most neglected element in the game also didn’t help
Also remember that since this is the God of Liyue aka China. Him being weak as basically a huge insult to Chinese people. Same for Dan Heng Imbibitator Lunae. Another Chinese god and now he's pretty op. Granted for him i think he was meant to be the exception not the rule in terms of power since China.
its not that deep, go outside.
After all the buff to Geo its still shit as an element even now lol. I mean sure you could use geo characters with proper investment and beat abyss but overall its still shit compared to other elements.
@@nakhart yeah. Geo is absolute garbage. It’s my favorite element and has my favorite characters but I hate playing them because of how horrible it is. I quit playing genshin last year because I realized that Hoyo will never make me enjoy Genshin
@@Mempavrai I feel like you are just commenting to farm hate or something. Bro, please get a life. There are so many better things to do than farm hate on a youtube video
"Diablo losing to Nikke?? Wtf is this?" I lost it. 😂
*raises hand*
Grew up playing games like Diablo, now I am playing Nikke instead of D4.
Thats the most ironic thing i have heard, ngl.
@@gregrenox9644 unfortunately it is not ironic, just Blizzard in 2023 in full force
Nikke is a good game lmao ngl I'm hooked
I mean that Nier Collab is destined to make numbers
The Zhongli story is hilarious. Goes from being trash to literally Godlike.
With Zhongli you can faceroll the entire game and never dodge a single attack.
Yeah sure try that to Rifthounds lol
he's not godlike, if you know what that means, already got replaced by nahida/ raiden/ kazuha
Back then, yes, but they have since added some pretty hard hitting enemies. Even with Zhongli there's no way you can face tank consecrated beasts.
@@nakhart1 enemy in the entire game.. and you still tank most of the damage
until you get to the rifthounds and all the other enemies that attack through sheilds
Zhongli's trailer showed him literally standing still while a bunch of enemies attacked him doing zero damage to him. Countless people somehow thought this meant he'd suck at defense and be the best damage-dealer in the game. I was facepalming for weeks.
hey you cant get hurt if your enemies are ded, amirite
There are STILL people today thinking he was meant to be a dps just cause it was stated his ult could do “massive dmg”. Genshin playerbase is always overwhelmingly negative towards tank/beefy units
he actually sucked at defense too before his buffs tho. It was better to use Xinqiu or Bennett
@@BrntBiscuit It was more than that. His Character Miscellany began by describing his normal attacks as powerful, giving a wrong impression of the character from the onset.
He didnt have 150% dmg absorption before buff , his shield was so bad in 1.1
3:07 The Hoyoverse Chinese community has some legit insane people: like the dude who pulled to Mihoyo HQ with a knife or like the recent Wanderer controversy where some people got doxxed over some Reddit post
The fact that someone killed a cat because it looks like the cat version of Wanderer that only appeared for like a few minutes is the worst part
The even worse part is that one of those incidents was the honkai third community and the other was genshin. Only further cementing the fact that it isn't just genshin players. Turns out gacha addicts are deranged regardless of what game they play. Weird.
The geo resonance buff actually made Geo viable and much stronger. Ningguang became a hellfire barrage, Noelle went from just a shield buff to an insane tank with huge damage and crazy heal with near 100% uptime. Was actually satisfying to play Geo.
Still worst element lmao
That was back in 2021, wake up dendro is here and geo sink right to the bottom
The keyword here is "was" 😭
@@SpedRockt Geo is in the exact same place it was before. Dendro has just powercrept everything else that is not Xiangling.
@@CommentPositionInformerxiangling literally hinges on Bennett to be viable. If anything xingqiu is the one who's gotten BETTER with dendro existing. Xiangling has long become a fossil of the past. You people act like this character is a god without properly building her. She desperately wants C4, she has an absurdly high ER requirement and her best free weapon is literally gated behind like 100hrs of gameplay before you can even UNLOCK fishing in inazuma to get the catch for her.
And don't even get me started on how badly modern teams are just blowing all of hers out of the water and it's not close.
Part of the reason why CN ppl are the most mad about that Zhongli drama was also bcs he was supposed to be the god that "represent China", just to add some context. In Genshin, each regions have a motif based off real life countries, and each have their own gods. Zhongli was actually a god for the region that's supposed to represent China, so the CN community was pissed on his release bcs they fucked up CN representation. ._."
Well... zhongli shield is made in China, that's why they don't last long
@@dragonel88 *spits out drink* no you didn't
@@kek6887 yes, I did 😏
So you mean that we’ll get a new Russian revolution when Tsaritsa comes out? xD
too bad they can't honor proper representation for the other regions. But of course a CN game would only care about CN representation, though.
The video didn't accounted what probably was the trigger of the buff:
Zhongli was the archon of Liyue, also known as not china, so the chinese fanbase got even more offended that the god that represents the country of China is one of the weakest ones there is, and took it as an insult and disrespect to the whole country, and they threaded on that way of thought, spiraling it into even being a pseudo anti-nationalism. This is likely what set off all the alarms, because to date, no other character has been buffed directly as him.
Take the example of Dehya. Dead on arrival, still dead. Some people say she's so bad that's even worse than Qiqi.
Deadhya.
i got her in my new acc. She is really trash but at least she still works in low AR accounts.
Qiqi, and I know people will laugh when I say this, was actually the best healer in the game for a while...it's just that she was so good at it that she was bad. She healed for so much off field, applied cryo for melting, and could mark enemies for healing... the problem was that she did so much healing that it was a complete waste to use her rather than just go for damage or buffers instead like Bennet or Diona. The opportunity cost for running Qiqi was much higher but her potency was overefficent.
They even reported it to CCP, accusing mihoyo of unpatriotic conduct. I swear Chinese are crazy stupid over video game 😂. Dehya are just unfortunate since the polls in CN shows that she's the most hated character. Mihoyo just took this opportunity to make a true trash 50/50 lost unit instead of a mid tier one's.
@@PixelleHearts yup, but to go a bit deeper, one of her biggest issues was that she had no way to produce energy AND had a costly burst. For a support/healer, this is the worst thing you can do to them. Imagine having to rely on other supports to funnel energy into your support lmao
Zhongli's current state, best shielder in the game, you basically ignore 90% of enemy mechanics because his shield lets you facetank it without being interrupted.
If your willing to give up the damage from his party slot, you basically live on easy street because you can't die.
One reason why I don't do much domain co-op is because I can't turn on very easy mode (Zhongli's shield)
That's what C2 is for.@@LaggySnake
i don't think zhongli can hold back any team because of this imaginary "dps loss" statement, 2-3 character is enough to 36 clear spiral abyss floor 12. he brings so much comfort and also not everyone can play the same
@@lancer9257 is so much comforting when you finished the game easier and dependent on just 3 units like nahida and raiden.
@@lancer9257He's DPS loss on freeze team and national team variations tho because he ruined elemental reaction and even on bloom team because if you use him with Nilou her passive will be deactivated. Fast switch teams don't need him at all too because most the time youre in I-frame. Honestly all characters that are Dependant on Zhongli are not meta anyway (Yoimiya, Wanderer, Cyno, Xiao) except Hu tao but once you get her c1, Zhongli feels useless on her.
in the game before his buff, geo element like this character has little to do with the game mechanism in damage (elemental reaction) this game damage revolve around that. then his shield was on par with 4 star character that is easier to get copies from various sources, which angers players , "wtf is this 5 star archon?"
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that was not the first time they made wonky or bugged character kit, but on zhongli case because CN players are making protest, they heard it and fix it. if not i doubt they will do anything about it. yae miko also has some probllems with her kit when released but not getting fixed till some complaints grow bigger in CN players, she finally get some fixes.
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there are many things that needs fixing in the game that kills even new players motivation to upgrades the new characters, one of them is how materials to ascend (upgrade) characters like yae miko is locked in the deepest, farthest place enkanomiya through many quests, so if you got yae miko using $$, she will stay useless till you unlock the boss in enkanomiya. they can fix this with providing material exchange in gacha tab with limited amount (so that players needs to go to boss for further upgrades) but nothing done till now
Its severely understarted how weak On release zhongli was. You get more value using other shielding character like diona or even noelle since their shield would actually sticks after a couple of hit. And ningguang exist. You can get insane damage from her with proper investment, some constellation and you will still have a shield with the amount of resonance you get.
Other characters have been buffed, but often its a shadow buff that's not announced.
E.g., Keqing doesn't step back as much after her charged attack, allowing her to better spam her best attack properly; whereas, in the past every two hits meant you were out of range.
It also didn't help the fact that around this time, another controversy on a different game of Mihoyo occurred, which was the Global Anniversary for HI3, and the Fu Hua bunny suit incident. For starters HI3 have different versions of the game. There's Global, Chinese and SEA (not sure if Japan has its own, can't remember)
Basically, a lot of Chinese players identified/claimed that Fu Hua represents the Chinese playerbase, so when the Global Anniversary dropped with bunny costumes for characters including Fu Hua in a bunny costume, a lot of them were livid, to the point that Mihoyo ended the event early, apologized to the Chinese players and compensated them for an event that wasn't event supposed to be for their version of the game. Furthermore, Global players were compensated with just a tiny morsel of compensation compared to what the Chinese players received. This angered a lot of Global players.
A lot of these players, who played Genshin as well, were already frustated on how Mihoyo feels like they have preferencial treatment based on player region, which have driven players to quit all games by Mihoyo.
Oh yea
That's why i stopped giving money to mihoyo
Ah yes, the country where Mihoyo was based at the time got preferential treatment. The same company that got death threats from their Chinese fanbase until they caved and gave the previously mentioned compensation and removed said video that offended *ONE* portion of their fanbase because of the backlash. That just *SCREAMS* preferential treatment and not attempting to avoid having their office blown up or their employees killed or injured.
@@Mobius_118 if its some non chinese person issuing death threats and all that, they wouldn't bat an eye. Both regions had extremes yes, but only one had its desire granted, so yes it is preferential treatment.
@@aren_gee
"You try appeasing to everybody, you end up pleasing no body." No matter who they sided with here, a portion of the player base was going to be pissed off. So they did what any company with a semblance of financial smarts did and appeased to the significantly larger portion of their player base. Was it preferential treatment, not really since the event was sparked by a GLB exclusive event that pissed of the Chinese player base. If anything, GLB was getting the preferential treatment up until that point (and before you think I'm stanning for the Chinese server, no, I absolutely fucking hate them for taking that from us. I'm just not blind to the larger picture).
@@Mobius_118 thats the thing, the event was not for them. It was supposed to be for GLB, yet they took it away because MHY listened. The chinese version of HI3 is separate and they have different events catered to them. You don't hear GLB players getting mad thay they don't get the same events the chinese players had at the time...?
GLB players has been complaining a lot with Genshin around that time too but they didn't listen, but when the chinese players complained, they immediately complied. To me, that's preferencial treatment. Chinese playerbase will always be priority, the rest of the world, no matter how much money gets thrown at them, will always be 2nd class citizens. It is what it is.
He is actually really bad at release. To the extent that a c0 4 star character kit is much better than his at c0. Also adding to the fact that Venti (the first archon that's been released) trivialized the game with his elemental burst.
4 star shielder like diona can be bought from exchange, which makes them even better than pulling zhongli that time. geo element has shit elemental reaction anyway, if theres nothing special from zhongli that time, why he is made an archon character lol. the players rage is correct in this case
So he was like dehya then buffed him.
Tbf, a C0 4 star character were much better than ZL and every other 5 star, including Venti. I can’t say that’s a bad thing though.
@@marc789 but they released dehya and didn't learn their mistakes
@@marc789 Dehya is far worse than pre buff zhongli tho
I just noticed how TH-cam ads are becoming more of a headache
waiting for @Asmongold to play Genshin is like waiting to see One Piece to the end...
Genshin farming saga continues
Asmon should react to the interactive map one day 😂
Women, men and even your grandma THIRST for him. At that time he was HYPE and up till now he is STILL the most popular male character, and when he didn't delivered people from all over the world became rightly livid.
Zhongli was my favorite Sub DPS since his release and he only got better with time. Just like Osmanthus wine, but where are those who share the memory?
"Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember... But where are those who share the memory?"
I'm learning way too much about this game.
Clever little Asmon waiting for the Zhongli re-run to re-visit a controversy several years old to farm Genshin viewers.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT. But he will. Because it worked on me again.
"I WILL HAVE ORDER"
"Sir, this is a Wendy's".
Zhongli's release was legitimately one of the wildest drama rides in genshin's history. The promotional material trying to sell him showed him being a crazy powerful DPS and CC monster, but on release he was a garbage tier support character, and this was at the height of the games popularity during major story events specifically revolving around him. People were legitimately pissed with how he was improperly marketed and even before his release there was only like 2-3 earth element characters (greatsword maid girl, and the merchant mage MAGA mommy) and earth element interactions were absolutely garbage. If you actively used 2 earth element characters in your party you were actively hindering your progress because of how garbage earth element was before it got buffed. Zhongli needed needed both buffs, ignore what Tectone says, because he put god tier accessories onto the character that he pulled from another character to show how "good" he was after spending thousands of dollars turbo-pimping out his characters by that time. In very specific and particular instances Zhongli could be powerful with top tier equipment, but if you didnt have said top tier equipment, Zhongli was a miserable character to play with even if you tried building a team around him. Hence why he needed 2 sepearate buffs, because he was still terrible to play with but also GEO element was miserable to play with. and when they addressed both issues everyone was happy with both Zhongli and Geo element in general.
The geo element still sucks. The resonance is good but the more important part are the elemental reactions and geos is bad. Apart from zhongli, the geo characters are very underwhelming.
Honestly I still think the community completely overreacted, but I'm not complaining lmao
@@racool911given the standart it set for archons, community reacted completely appropriate 17:24
i remember this. pretty much people were really excited for zhong since he was built up to be this crazy powerful god and they were expecting him to be a crazy dps char. when he was released though all he could really do was put shields on your chars and do a single major burst damage per ulti which is still his thing but back then he was not even the best at doing it. then mihoyo buffed his shields and atleast untill i stopped playing genshin, using zhong was like playing the game on easy mode.
honestly i think one of the big reasons behind this was because this was really early on in the games development and their were not all that many popular characters yet, even though he was male zhong was one of the most popular characters design wise at that time. also keep in mind that the way genshin works, support chars are usually only something you switch into for a second to cast their abilities whilst dps chars are the ones you spend the majority of your time playing. so if people wanted to main zhong it was almost impossible considering he was a support. this is why genshin players prefer it when chars are dps over support or they want them to have an ability that allows them to be dps temporarily like the lightning god can. i think mihoyo learned their leasson with zhong which is probably why they made it so the lightning archon had an ability that turned her into a dps temporarily despite being a support.
"why did they add guys into the game"
dude, as a straight guy, i can say with confidence that zhongli is the best waifu, besides maybe yae miko and the raiden matching him, his voice is seriously soothing.
like, he only got this attention because he was such a beloved genshin character, ironic because one of the most loved genshin characters is a dude. lmao.
1:55 The formula for sucrose LMAO
14:00 When Asmon was malding over Mtashed, and that sad Storm Terror Lair's music :DDD
Zhongli actually became the most OP character after the buff and they released a whole series of mobs to try and indirectly nerf him but it didn't really work. He's still absolutely meta for any character that has a hard time DPSing and staying alive/not being interrupted. And he is still gamechanging to have for other teams if you're not very skilled.
He is good character to have, but at the same time he is far from being meta, in fact i dont think he is used on any meta teams, there is always someone that can do a better job than him in any team, talking about only meta cuz ofc he is viable in a lot of teams and is very versatile
The most op is not true, with nahida, kazuha and bennet still being the 3 main op's
@@almor3270 Depends what you consider meta. If you only think the absolute best couple teams are meta then sure. I consider anything strong enough to clear abyss 12 comfortably with F2P builds meta. So that would mean most likely 1 attempt, not much luck/skill needed. In which case characters like Lyney, Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Wanderer all like to have a shielder and Zhongli is the king of shields. Most of the strongest teams lack defensive capabilities and while they may clear abyss a little faster, it can easily lead to restarts if you get hit a couple more times than you should. Which probably leads to longer overall time spent on the clear.
@@THExJMC I wont negate that is really comfy playing with him since you are almost immortal with him in the team, i would say tho in the point where you can 3 man the floor 12 with him in the team is really far from being f2p friendly imo but is indeed as you say quite easy once you are there. I personally consider meta what allows you to clear faster with low account time inversion. Like for example, i cant do it at all, but the record to clear floor 12 full stars for a new create account is 4 days (f2p btw, and is on youtube and bili bili), obviosuly there is ceartain degree of skill needed for that. So in conclusion i would say our definition of meta quite different as you said.
@@almor3270 That makes sense as well, however by that definition pretty much only a good main dps would be considered meta as that’s pretty much all you need to be able to clear abyss. It’s a little harder these days but pre-sumeru most abysses were very easy. That record with 4 day clear i believe relied on a really good reroll, lots of game time and probably the easiest abyss we’ve ever had. With that being said, Zhongli’s benefit is not just his shield, which is what was implied by saying a 3-man clear. The dmg shred, milileth buff and zhongli’s own dmg for small onfield time are all pretty decent. Not to mention not having to dodge and not being interrupted also massively increases your dmg output. Even his burst is great dmg in an AoE scenario or against mobs that move around a lot.
Funny he mentions all those improvements hsr has gotten since release meanwhile the game itself is somehow still much less enjoyable somehow. I say this as a huge fan of turn based games too.
Shit is being hard carried by the sheer amount of hard cope the community huffs over quality of life meanwhile the gameplay loop remains this reptitive autoplay checklist of chores with a story thats somehow written WORSE than inazuma lmfao
nah bc how hsr feel like work compared to genshin idk if its bc ill login to do commissions then end up exploring randomly for hours 😭 but hsr feels repetitive bc finished getting all map loots and running autoplay just hogs my phone and i cant do smth else at the same time
16:50 oh god i see myself there LOL
37万 it's like :370 000 people !!
Also, not a lot of people know this, but Zhongli's buff is the reason why there are 2 divided sides of Geo dmg. On one end, you have the Geo character's who do booku dmg, but are niched by their element (Itto, Navia, Ninguang) and on the other hand you have Geo character's that are built JUST to support and who's dmg does next to nothing. So like, yeah you have character's that are nice and really cool that everyone generally plays. But for example, who plays or main's Garou? He was literally created to buff Itto, so if you don't have Itto why would you use Garou in any situation?
I remember when they added the rift wolves in game and people said Zhongli and other shielders are now gonna be useless. My Zhongli perfectly fine
Nikke be ballin' slayin' and chilling...
Based game... 16:34
Also finally got all the 1.1 characters.
People were stupid back then. During the top tier dps poll, Childe ended up right next to Zhongli.
Now, who stood the test of time? Certainly not Diluc. ;P
4:21 Thanks to Asmon, I watched this amazing little animation of Dehya.
One of the things I found really respectable about the Zhongli buffs is that they did it after the banner was over. It would've been easy to buff him very quickly and create some more hype sales at the end of the banner but they didn't. They took their time and did it right. That being said, what the fuck was pre-buff Zhongli holy moly...
The magnitude of memes created by Genshin......makes me truly believe its the most played game worldwide.
"but the people" caught me off guard LMAOO
Following Raiden 'text-correction' interaction with Beidou and most recent Dehya waiting room
I remember this... but I pulled Zhongli on the 1st banner was for his aesthetic and back story... those buff were just a bonus...
The comment-section Kratos jump . . . I dieded 😆😆😆
Of course, Hoyo's first mistake was making Zhongli scale off of HP (and Albedo scale off of Def)
when we know, we know
This dude singlehandedly carries the entire element on his back
I'm surprised that out of this entire video, not once was it mentioned that Zhongli was the god of the Genshin realm based off of China and Chinese players were trying to report the game to the Chinese government for being unpatriotic because Zhongli was so bad at release.
Yeah what you said is one of the reasons why they buffed him. That and 2nd is it would push away potential whales or spenders and 3rd is that lots of players would assume that archons wouldn't be as powerful but look at how it turned out. Since Raiden release and the next archons are really good on release.
2:20 THEY ARE
As a Day 1 Nikke player, Shift Up loves its community. Simply look at the current collab with Nier.
6:41 I know I recognize this music but I forget where it was coming from.
Attack on titan
still hope for the day that Ill open my youtube and see that asmongold its finally playing genshin impact...
Zhongli was the only character they ever buffed and to this day he's a very strong support and a requirement for certain teams.
What Mihoyo seemed to learn after this (other than "make the archons super powerful") was to give indirect buffs instead. Stuff like adding new artifact sets with passive effects that perfectly compliment certain characters (Kokomi & clam). The whole electro element was always seen as weak, but the new dendro element essentially made all electro characters a lot more powerful. Right now with Dehya being seen as the weakest character due to being a damage reduction unit in a game with shielders, but upcoming Fontaine characters all have abilities that activate when losing HP/being at low HP, so Dehya's probably gonna be a lot more useful soon.
Kinda smart, really. From a social aspect, they've now pre-empted outrage by creating this expectation that weak units will make sense later when new mechanics get added in.
It's not something they learned later down the line, they've litteraly did that as early as 1.2 with the adition of the hydro and cryo artifact sets, all that stuff is planned in advance and we've had many characters that seemed weak at first actually become really good once the meta changes, don't forget that they develop shit months if not years in advance
@@oui7171ok...which ones...because there are none other than inazuma 4stars
@@ziebus904 There's litteraly the two sets in dragonspines that buffed every cryo and hydro characters in existence back then but yeah let's just ignore that so we can nitpick and complain about next character because it's not as strong as previous character right?
@@oui7171 hydro was only childe and cryo was only ganyu and keaya and for keaya it was not good upgrade till kazuha you cant put 1set in the domain you need 2...those sets buffed only 1 fucking character and it was tartaglia
It's still some characters, it still shows they planned shit in advance because it's what they've always done, you can't just say it's not enough because it clearly happened, and then you can't ignore the powerhouse that is the emblem set that came out in 2.0 and instantly became best on slot for bunch of sub dps
"Why are there guys in this game?"
Because girls play it.
I think Asmon needs to react more of CN players Drama , its interesting for me to watch because i too wanna all the stories 😊
Edit : i mean Juicies CN Drama ever 😂
I hope he also reacts to the Scaramouche CN drama. 😆
And that was the LAST good thing Hoyo has done for genshin lmao
tbh, the outrage was understable, his lore definitely hit harder than anyone on the game. he is literally the strongest among all, liyue region's iconic landscapes are because of his battles, but he sucked at released no doubt. he definitely did not live up to the hype and his lore that time
If I recall, they buffed the fuck out of him and other shield based characters. I don't play it anymore but that last time I did, he was meta in every single party and that includes Spiral Abyss runs.
He is still meta if you want the strongest shield in the game since you would basically forget the dodge button most of the time and you won't need a healer in his team unless you encounter enemies that bypasses shields which are few and far in-between. He is also the only one with the universal elemental shred so his team comp is very versatile.
His shield is so busted that Mihoyo realized that players who had him didn't actually need to use any skill. They could just pop his shield and face tank. So, they then proceeded to make new enemies either bloated with HP or ignore shields entirely.
He's both Meta and not Meta, he's the best general shielder but there are some teams that prefer other shields as well. Also if you can just dodge the enemies, which is often the case, you don't really need him.
Only geo shields got buffed. That means Noelle's shield got buffed as well. His direct buffs are additional HP scaling, interruption resistance on skill cast, and res shred. The rest of the buffs are coming from geo buffs as a whole.
he still is. literally puts the game on easy mode even against the newest enemies.
3:15
Chinese people with that comrade mindset 😭😭
Bro bilibili is smt else that website scares me.
And last time hoyoverse listen to the players becouse all the kids who defended hoyoverse no matter what.
7:24 “that’s not funny” I spit out my fucking coffee
I remember that whole thing happening and me being happy that i got my 2 star zhongli but holy crap when that buff came out it was insane how OP it made him. Genshin and a minecraft mod called dungeons, dragons and space shuttles gave me so much entertainment after being let down by cyberpunk 2077.
“but the people…”
Oh god I like how this is the same time Zyox (15:35) was streaming with a maid outfit om
Star Rails main issue right now is that it has not been around long enough to be big enough
And Zhongli is still in the top 10 most used characters in the abyss. After almost 3 years
When i used to play genshin i made phys atk zhongli and that shit was fire
Honestly I dont get the stigma around genshin when its honestly so unlike any othwr anime rpg. Like compare the fanservice in Azure Lane or even their own sister game Honkai Impact 😭 Genshins really mild, and was made for the majority, not the degenerate minority of guys that usually play these types of games. Literally none if the children are sexualized, thats a weird joke made because non fans sexualize them?? all the weird shits surprisingly coming from OUTSIDE the game
and by outside ion even mean the fandom, its like specifically the part of players that skip everything just so that they can fight and spend on their waifus then get bored and shit on the game and fap to r34 of the girls
AKASHOT GETTING THE RECOGNITION HE DESERVES
I really love Genshin and the reason is, i missed every single controversy and now i'm playing catchup and laughing at how absurd it is.
5:00 lol while skipping past game related posts like "most useless waypoint"
Some people might not know this, but Genshin and miHoYo is actually highly criticized in China, mainly for Plagiarism (if you have played BotW, you'll know) but also many other reasons like marketing, microtransanctions, designing, PR etc.,. Whenever someone say something very stupid on social media, it is guaranteed that someone else will say something like "do you play Genshin? Becuase if you do, then it's not your own fault that you are this stupid"
We hate plagiarism too, Tencent has very bad reputation in China, one of the major reason is for that.
But to be honest ourselves, the real reason for people to hate Genshin is because its target customers.
5:31 homie doing max int damage lol
Also I'm literally crying over this editing, like actually rofl
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it's exactly like that, there are many good characters that are not archons , you don't really know what you are gonna get with non archons, they could be on par with archons or just a waste of money and resources, but archons are supposed to be a guaranteed hit cause they are gods, while everyone else is a hit or mess, so that's people get more excited about archons because they KNOW hoyo can't fuck up this one, it's a god and it should be a legendary character
Imagine if Asmon checked FGO...
You gotta remember that Liyue, the nation that Zhongli rules over, is based on China. So a chinese game having a chinese-based god is a pretty big deal, yet they fucked it up anyway upon release.
What do you mean it was way bigger back then? It's colossally more popular now than it was back when it launched. You just heard more about it because it was new.
I can kinda understand Asmons genshin hate but this is far from just a phone game. I play on pc and ps, but you can legit be a f2p in this game. It's gonna suck having to pass up banners but its doable. Also that guy who spent 2k on klee is legit a genshin content streamer and youtuber. He always spends crazy amounts of his viewers money on the game.
the hype for Zhongli was unreal, on a different level of insane, he even was on the news everywhere because the hype was so crazy, Genshin would be in a different place to this day i believe if not for the zhongli incident as it was the thing that changed the direction of genshin forever. He was just so garbage on launch it was hard to believe and they ruined the game imo, they buffed him but it was too late. they would have mades 00's of millions from from him, the game is still doing well but lost a lot from that debacle, it was the incident that made me stop spending in genshin and i just could not recover my joy for the game after that and the dehya situation was even worst and compounded the end of my time with genshin and in HSR they just released Dan IL and he is basically zhongli and this time they made him completely broken because they knew not to make the zhongli mistake again
By the time he actually plays it the twins will already be travelling to another world
Tbh the game needed that because even after all these buffs Geo, while still being my favorite, is actually the weakest element in the game as of now. Only this controversy saved the element for some time.
Why do i hear dragonspine ost in the back lmao
The funniest part of these videos is the Genshin OST in the background lmao
Speaking of which...I got the wildest pulls yesterday. Zhongli 50/50 won.
Funny thing is Zhongli was actually pretty good on release, his day-1 shield was enough to trivialize the game, but the buff made him completely busted. This video made a good job of showing how Genshin's community is probably one of the worst one, pretty glad I left the boat long ago
Based on what I can recall there were a few main reasons people were upset. These aren't in any particular order.
The first was the assumption that his meteor would turn enemies into pesuedo-constructs while they were petrified. This was because holding his skill would detonate all nearby contructs for damage and give you a shield, which would have been a neat mechanic if enemies could be temporarily be constructs. Unfortunately this was not true and was thought to be a cut mechanic.
The second was that during his attack animation his weapon would flash with the Geo colors, which people assumed meant it would deal Geo damage. This was also not true and was also thought to have been a cut mechanic.
Third was that his shield wasn't very good. It was only resistant to Geo attacks, of which there were very very few. Everything else dealt 100% damage to the shield so they'd be removed very soon after using them.
Fourth was that his energy gain was poor which meant you needed another Geo character to give him the energy.
Fifth was that being a Geo character he would clear other elements off of enemies for the very weak Crystallize reaction. This is seen as a detriment since it interfered with your other reactions.
Sixth was that of the artifacts available at the time, none of them were very good for Zhongli. It wasn't until Dragonspine where he got a good set made for him.
Seventh was that Geo isn't very good in general. A big mechanic for strong enemies were elemental shields which are dealt extra damage by opposing elements, which Geo didn’t deal with very well and still doesn't.
Eighth was that his meteor animation is just too long. By the time the animation finished you could have done quite a bit of damage if you did anything else.
At the time it seemed like he had a lot of downsides and no real good upsides that would make him interesting or worth picking.
Also, another factor, he is a limited 5*, meaning more rare, and pretty much Geo MC, Noelle or Nigguang, of which two were 4* and the other the default character outperformed him in all aspects, and didn't bring anything of worth until they were forced to buff geo and him as a whole
17:08 - 17:14 asmond bro i've seen you rage quit more than most mmo players
0:16 for the same reason they add girls
i think it was because mihoyo hyped him so much and he got nerfed so much because he was performing too well at c0 to encourage people to spend for constellations. and tbh this is a scammy move, which is already happening with the new units. and lets not talk about 4* needing cons 4-6 to be at least useful except for the outliers like benny and kuki
I mean most 4's don't need cons to preform well, the good 4's anyway. Of the useful 4's only Faruzan and Thoma feel like they really need cons. Gorou, Xingqui, and Kuki all really want cons to do better as well (as many as you can get on Gorou and Xingqui, Kuki getting an effective 25% dps bump in hyperbloom at C2) but all function well without cons. Sara is C6 reliant as well but the only way you play her is with C2 Raiden anyway.
I haven't fully watch the video, but if he makes another joke about why the game released a male character. I swear....
aight, nvm....
Ah, this takes me back. Good times, good times.
bruh Zhongli literally gives me a 40k shield... how is he not a tank?
_>fucking wolves. gets 'em every time._
Community response meme moment was so funny