Why Rockets Fail - Earth's Rotation Leads to Explosion of The First Soyuz Rocket
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2019
- in 1966 the first 2 Sozyuz spacecraft were supposed to meet in space, Soyuz 7K-OK-No.1 ended up being delayed after problems with Soyuz 7K-OK-No.2. Months later No.1 was readied for launch, but never made it off the pad due to technical problems that ultimately lead it its destruction.
Unfortunately, there's no pictures or recording available so I instead rendered the event using Kerbal Space Program.
One of the best sources on this event is Anatoly Zak's work:
www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-...
Also See David Portree who wrote a great history of Mir hardware
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Mir_Ha... - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Escape system engineers: "Yay, it worked!"
Everyone else: *glares angrily*
Hahah!!
best space joke ive heard lol
10/10 recreation, I loved everyone running for their lives
One guy still died in reality. I noticed one guy was standing under the rocket in awe in the simulation too, that must have been the guy.
They seem to be wobbling away more so than running away. But I did find myself rooting for them to all make it to safety. 👍
At the rnd 1 of tbem is soo excited that he starts to clap hands...
@@WoodworkerDon Note that Scott did not produce any shelters for them. How very cruel.
@@vladimirdyuzhev yes. He could have at least included some fuel storage facilities. Those would have been quite safe to hide behind...in my opinion. But I'm not an engineer.😱
Lol, that minecraft fire.
Oof
Zombie: *_BRUH_*
Russia biome rocket scientist villager *hmmmmphf*
Isn’t that copyrighted?
No. Minecraft textures are free and are therefore fair use.
ha the Kerbal recreation is beauty - keep up the good work bud
Especially the minecraft flame
"...which use high-grade ethanol as their coolant."
Here in America we call that vodka.
Hmm... no, I believe that was 96% (or more) ethanol. Possibly denatured (poison added to make the unscientific consumption less tempting).
@@vladimirdyuzhev Right 96% Ethanol (higher percentage can not be achieved by destillation), but at least for the electronics of a MIG25 I know for sure that the Ethanol never was denatured (era of Soviet Union). I do not know why, but heard of "rules" that the ethanol should be kept drinkable without side effects, because real alcoholics will drink the stuff anyway, even if it is denatured ... (source: rumors from former members of the soviet army)
@@stefan_brix Even if/when denatured alcohol was used -- you have to remember: these are engineers. ChemEng drunks of the era would happily redox the nastiness out of the juice to make it drinkable again.
Scott did another video "Why People Used To Drink Rocket Fuel" on that
When the Soviet army was in Afghanistan in the 80s they had problems with their tanks, because the soldiers kept drinking the brake fluid.
A very creative way to deal with the lack of footage haha! A great looking kerbal replica too!
"You left the handbrake off and parked it on a hill". Kind of error.
@pyropulse Similar thing. People on a hill forget gravity works as intended. ;)
@pyropulse It would back drive the engine if you left it in gear. That's why you can jump start a car by pushing it down a hill.
~How can we launch when the Earth is turning
HOW DO WE SLEEP WHILE THE SOYUZ IS BURNING?~
to the top with you sir
Did they fuel the Soyuz with (midnight) oil?
Great. Now i'll be humming this in work all night!
🤣
Someone needs to put that on a t-shirt!
tybofborg
That's Awesome!!!!!!!
"Hmmm. Since we moved away from using ethanol as the coolant, that mysterious leakage we were experiencing seems to have stopped..."
I seem to remember that the V2 rocket program had issues because the engineers were drinking the rocket fuel.
You forgot to put "Actual footage" at the bottom of the screen.
"colourised"
right up there with Genuine Imitation Leather
"A 15 degrees per hour drift" thanks Bob, love the little green minions.
The Soyuz launch escape system also saved Vladimir Titov and Gennady Strekalov in 1983 when their rocket started burning on the pad.
The image in the right side of the thumbnail is from that launch (not many burning Soyuz pictures)
@@scottmanley Who watches thumbnails?
They just have boobs and kittens !
I saw footage from that while watching tv. Should be able to find it on the net somewhere
Well lets be honest here. Its better when your LaunchEscapeSystem fires early than when it fires late or not at all.
I also prefer to fire early rather then late or not at all ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@DeHeld8 it's your poor wife I feel sorry for 😄
Not if it makes the rocket explode.... That kinda ruins it's purpose.
@@5Andysalive Nah its purpose is to ensure the people inside the crew cabin survive. Obviously it sucks when the rocket gets destroyed. But lets be real, its going to be expensive anyways to repair the rocket after an unplanned "stage separation"
Unless it’s so early it’s still in the vehicle assembly building.
We've all explained "eureka" moments. It always amazes me when I have one of these, (about once a year). Imagine how these scientists feel when they figure out these problems. Success comes from failures. Great explanation Scott! Thank you!
Sometimes you have to fail to recognize a growing stench of failure.
Um, I'd say that science experiments don't fail -- they just get negative results. OTOH, if their experiments don't work as intended, that's a failure of engineering! 😁😁😁
4:53 - Technically, the gyroscope would still have been _in_ its original starting position; the _rocket_ was rotating around it.
Technically, it would be in a different position, but with the same orientation
@@MidwestFarmToys Exactly. And in this case obviously the whole universe was revolving around the gyroscope :-)
Great video, but what makes it a little special was the Kerbal falling on its face while running away from the rocket! 😂😂
I swear... Jebadiah Kerbin's clumsiness is gonna cost us all our lives one day.
i didnt notice that until you pointed it out... makes it much better!
@@arkie87 Did you notice them clapping when it exploded? haha...
@@MCgranat999 haha, probably!
Nobody cheeses it better than the Kerbals.
Absolutely loved the KSP recreation 😂😂
Hey Scott, I lack the vocabulary to describe, how much I enjoy your videos. So I go with: very much.
I aint got the words
When you have a million variables to work with, it makes sense that eventually one slips through undetected. But that's what tests are for, and it's good that a pre-manned flight test discovered this issue.
Because just having the rocket sit there for half an hour is the kind of test someone would be reasonably expected do.
@@michaelbuckers I think the test that was accidentally accomplished that showed the error was more "Sitting on the launchpad after everything was armed"
But hey, progress is often marked by failures
Rocket falling on 30 people due to Earth's rotation is secondary purpose of tests
It's okay, is ethanol fire, can just drink problem away
It's not so good that "a few" other issues were discovered in the first manned mission...
Astounding!
A rocket failure that will drive the Flat Earthers absolutely apoplectic!
Well, they already insane to start with... Could it possibly drive them sane? They are going to totally lose it when Virgin Galactic and Blue Origin start flying paying customers above 100km where they will see the curve. Think that will be the death of the flerfer movement.
Bruh, they don't believe in gyroscopes.
There was some guy, who bought a super expensive gyro to confirm, that Earth does not rotate. Gyro showed the opposite. He went through severe cognitive dissonance and said that it's all due to some mysterious unknown force.
@@warrentaylor8428 I don't know, the flat earth phenomenon is spreading across the globe.
@@mikebronicki6978 Soon the flat spot may take up the whole surface. :c
All FEs know that the Soviet Union was a pawn of NASA, so they concocted the whole story. :P
Anyone else notice the 2 Kerbals who stayed on the pad while everyone else was running?
me
The reenactment was adorable.
What an engineering masterpiece the R7 rocket family is - Korolev was a genius!
Too bad they murdered him via botched surgery operation. Then there was some sort of a war for succession that really messed things up.
@@noop9k
Soviet Union in a nutshell: Lose your brightest mind to long-term consequences of a Gulag imprisonment.
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X he gave his life and genius to the USSR, and they killed him for it. not good but not terrible either.
Everything has teething issues, it's just a matter of how thorough that thing is tested before it's used to carry precious cargo.
It is sad that in Kerbal Space Program there is Werner von Kerman but no Sergey Kerbalev.
Those Soyuz launch escape systems are impressively efficient.. ESA astronaut Luca Parmitano,who will be going up to the space station in the MS13 Soyuz mission on the 50'th anniversary of Apollo 11, has a very high opinion on the track record of Soyuz..
As usual Scott went into those great detail I love about this channel...interesting explanation on the actual cause of this early failure in a otherwise impressive up to date Soyuz track record ...Great presentation as always..🚀
07:02 - During that test:
- That coolant could cause a fire.
- He's delusional.
*Take him to the infirmary!*
There wasn't an escape system failure. There wasn't. Because it DIDN'T HAPPEN!
Soviet rockets don't fail.
Imagine the sudden heart attack the crew would have had if this was a manned mission and they were still on board.
That last picture with his wife and the picture got me. Great video
Thanks for the interesting story. This story line would have made a great episode in the daytime TV drama “As the World Turns”. 😀😀
Absolutely love what you've done with this episode format. The archival footage adds a lot, and don't stop with the KSP!
That's right, don't blame the rocket scientists for the failure, blame the Earth's rotation!
So you watched the video right?
If Earth were flat and did not rotate, its movement around Sun would eventually also trigger the escape sequence, in about a week.
I'm not entirely sure about the movement of Solar system within the Milky Way - would it be a factor and how long the rocket would have to wait on the start table. (I just estimated - about 4 mln years.)
@@dylanhultman3922 Of course!
@@vladimirdyuzhev Er no because the flat Earth model doesnt have the Earth rotating. Instead its the sun, moon and everything else that rotates. According to flattards anyway.
If the earth wasn't rotating relative to the background stars "sidereal day = ∞", then it would never trigger this.
However, if the earth wasn't rotating relative to the sun "solar day = ∞", as if the earth was tidally locked to the sun, then it would be rotating relative to background stars so that a sidereal day = 1 solar year, and it would trigger this, uhh, eventually.
If the earth wasn't rotating relative to the moon, as if it was tidally locked to the moon, then a sidereal day = 1 lunar cycle, and it would also trigger this eventually.
Awesome recreation/mini-machinima! Informative and fun as always Mr. Manley!
This is some awesome kerbal recreation work. This helped paint the picture a lot better that day, thanks Scott! It wasnt wasted!
as the gyros spun down they would eventually begin to tumble which would have set off the escape system regardless of the earth's rotation
Even if the wheel is suspended at the centre of its mass?
@@sofuckingannoying I don't think they'd tumble through gravitational torques, but rather through transferral of angular momentum to the gimbal mounts through flexure
Scott, Love this series. A lot!
Thanks for putting them together 👌
Fascinating! How people give thumbs down to some of your content I just don’t understand. Can’t please everyone. I appreciate all that you do and thank you for taking the time to produce so much!!!
Good work by the Soviet team to sort out the problems. Thanks Scott. Have a nice Sunday.
You're a great storyteller Scott, love your stuff.
I seriously love Scott's videos. They're always so good.
Mr. Scott Manly, many years of TH-cam success. Keep it coming! 👍
Hey scott nice video! And you re almost at 900k subs! Congrats in advance :)
Quite a production.
Very nicely done.
Best Kerbal recreation of historic events yet. GG Scott.
I watched this originally on a Roku TV. The TH-cam app on Roku plays a little gif preview of the video you're highlighting. This one was of a Kerbal running away from the rocket on fire.
I knew it was going to be good.
Great explanation as always, Scott!
2:45 Those Kerbals running away are HILARIOUS
We all know ksp is the best animation software
No Kerbalians were injured in the making of this video! :)
:)))))))))))))))))
@@Bob3519 two of them didn't run away with the rest of them when the launch escape tower had been triggered
The herbals heads swaying as they’re sprinting towards the rocket in a pack then running away from it in a pack while the rocket has minecraft fire on it. Great video scott
Wow really nice video as always👌! Amazing footage that you found! Thanks so much for that and for making video's👍! Keep on going your extraordinary work! P.s. love the ksp recreation, you've put together 🤘
Excellent video. Very interesting explanaton of the failure in an early Soyuz launch.
Another excellent video Scott.....I ❤️ this channel!
that fire at 2:33, it's beautiful
This is a very interesting review. Thank you for posting it.
Adorable job, sir.
That is the best thumbnail preview clip ever.
Thanks Scott. And thank-you for the very interesting links.
"There's a whole bunch of examples of Russian electronics in aviation which used high-grade ethanol as their coolant"
Aka extra-strong vodka cooling
Man... I love your videos!
Insightful & fun : I love your videos ! Thanx Scott
Awww yiss scott time. Love from Nepal
3:40 always loved the incredibly deep blast pit below the pads on Soyuz launch sites
Wow, what a story! Thanks, scott
Now I’m eager for the Soyuz 1 vid!
Great video..thank u 4 ur efforts
vodka cooled soviet rockets, makes me happy :)
This time I got a big notification all the way across the top of my YT page fore your video.
OMG, you made my bheer come up my nose at 1:51 ... In the midst of your super-serious discussion of important historical events, all those Kerbal ground techs waddling up the pad are *HYSTERICAL!!* I understand *WHY* you did it that way, no actual leaked footage from CCCP1 Russian Television (any SCTV fans out there?) but that first moment I saw the Kerbs, I nearly split a gut! Scott Manley, you are awesome!
I love your instructional videos. Keep them up :)
How did you get the Kerbals to fallow each other?
The best Scott Manley video ever!!!
I LOVE those KSP demonstrations
This is brilliant! I love this!
Interesting stuff
Keep em comming :-)
Well done, as usual!
I'll admit, as soon as I heard, "...couldn't find any footage..., so I decided to re-create the scenario using Kerbal Space Program." I had to stop and genuinely laugh for the joy of it. Then i didn't stop. Well done sir, I was having a rough day too! 10/10 Hope to see more kerbal re-creations with minecraft sfx.
This video is phenomenal
2:40 amazing CGI
Brilliant explanation and graphics, Scott.
Just one more proof that rocket science is......well, rocket science.
Thanks Scott.
Omg yes this was the best thing I've watched in a long time lol thank you sir
lol! Nice presentation! Cheers! That was fun.
one of the the very few channels i insta-like.
In other words, the Russians confirmed Foucault's pendulum with their gyroscope...
The Kerbal Space simulation was a nice touch:)
Fascinating stuff! And those kerbal animations running for their lives! Super!
Damnit Scott, now I want a video on soyuz 1, GIB
Can you make videos about realistic and futuristic rockets?
Open-cycle nuclear rockets :P
@@leerman22
5000 seconds of specific impulse and TWR>1? Hell yeah! He should do a video on Medusa as well, top speed of 0.01c and we could build it with today's technology too.
How do you get more than one Kerbal to move at a time? I have never been able to do that.
That was a wonderful story Scott. Can we please hear another?
Wow! What a crazy oversight by some amazing minds
And unfortunate scenario
This is the most interesting rocket failure I've ever seen!
technically, this proves that the earth is not flat
@jonny j It's always nice to have more proofs. And I like this one becuse it is guaranteed to be unintentional.
So many years, so many believers, but I havent seen any pictures of whats at the edge of the flat earth :/
Excellent video! Scott how long did it take you to get that little guy to fall down and get back up? Amazing bit of history too!!
This was *very* interesting - I never heard of it.
Excellent video as usual. You're always very informative and entertaining.
However, there is one blaring detail that most people have failed to notice. The Soyuz system has been flying for OVER 50 YEARS! In the past 50 years, so much has changed and made our lives easier, safer and more productive, but we're still sending people into space in a '65 Moskvitch with radial tires. What have we, as a species, done to further our reach toward the stars?
Nothing, according to this(and most modern) space technology. While our current space engineers drive to work in direct injected, turbocharged, WiFi connected, Bluetooth enabled, voice recognition, GPS guided machines that will order a latte for you, they're working with craft that, for comparisons sake, is a '57 Chevy with a 350 2 bolt main and a 3-on-the-tree.
Essentially, this current space tech is something that a 15 year old with a set of wrenches and a bucket of elbow grease can get to land on the moon or even orbit Mars. What are we doing as a species?
The B52 has been flying since the 1950’s aircraft have long lives.
great video
Great video! Can you please cover the Soyuz 1 launch as well.
How did you make all the kerbals run at once?
Start a fire on the launch pad.
I like the way that the Soyuz engines are started by lightning the blue touch paper and standing well back...
Thanks Bob!
Every time I see that title my mind reads: Rotation of Soyouz Rocket causes the Earth to explode.