No sling washer installed. ACE hardware for head stud nuts and washers ... Screws used for dowel pins for main bearings. Orings for valve guide seals ...The list goes on. And on
I bought a “running motor “ on the samba dropped to a friend engine builder. Engine never ran, paid the man the 500$. Contacted him and I got back $100 and a very valuable lesson 😬!!
Ouch, that stings a bit. Even the ones that "run" may be used up. Issues really start to surface under sustained load, which makes buying a runner really difficult. I bought a VW that "runs, drives, and stops" one time only to find out it needed a lot of help to keep running, driving, and stopping. Sorry it went bad for you but glad you're here!
well hitting jugs for more then two hours after day's off socking. jugs and pistons ready for the garbage and bought new once. your engine got way more end play then our oval. i hope you can rescue that block for later, but i guess not. good video
Thanks '55! That sounds like a long time trying to get the cylinders out of a case, no fun. And you're right, lots of end play and doesn't look good for this case for a good rebuild. May just have to experiment with it instead! Thanks for watching as always!
You've got the patience of a saint! I'd be inventing curse words which, of course, could be edited out of the video. Maybe you're not that saintly! Good thing you've got a nosy assistant! One problem I had with that '68 VW with the rebuilt engine was the crankcase oil being diluted with gas. That was never solved and I bought a new car in 1974. How could gas get in the crankcase? Perhaps through the mechanical fuel pump? Bad seal or diaphragm? Good luck again and I am looking forward to more videos!
Thanks @ajk2739. I have occasional have discussions with the universe that don't make the final cut. It's feasible that it gets there through the pump. I'd also be curious about the carb leaking down some way. The latter may be revealed by a long cranking time when the car has sat for an extended amount of time; the idea being the bowl is empty. It's a bad situation for sure. Thanks for watching!
You should learn how to rebush those carbs yourself, since it is so common to have a little air leak there. There is a guy "Motoresto Florida, that does motorcycles - but he is super good at carbs, and has a lathe. But, maybe you could get one of those harbor freight mini lathes, and do it yourself. I'd always send mine out too - think it used to cost about 30 bucks. Haven't worked on a vw in a long time, but ... we'll see what the future holds. Cool video - brought back so many memories.
Yeah I agree, learning the re-bushing process is on the list. I have an old lathe I'm learning to use, will probably need a specific reamer too. We'll get there! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
I don't have a worst engine tear down but a funny story. I used to have a bunch of bugs, busses, ghia's and did full frame off restorations. A neighbor (big time "" dealer) wanted some help swapping motors out. Went to an apartment complex, and parked next to another bus as I recall to swap motors into his bus. I have the motor out, and putting it in his bus (about 45 minutes) and he keeps looking around, a little nervous. He forgot to tell me that it wasn't his bus I was taking the motor out of. So, I guess back in the day, without knowing it, I stole a motor ... boy was I young and dumb. VW's got stolen all the time back then. I still want a baja or buggie, but don't have room for another car.
When we picked up Abbey from her 20 yr resting place that engine had that much play in it as well. Unfortunately that case had already been machined to the limit. So we found a new engine. Will be interesting to see the reason for the JB Weld on the top of the case.
Y'all have done an amazing job on Abbey. Couldn't ask for a better college car either! JB weld on an engine case is a desperate times strategy for sure, there has to be some drama lurking. Thanks for the support!
I've been burnt on vw engines and it's to the point I won't buy anything used now .. the money I've spent on "good" engines could have got me a new one
Makes sense. Hard to argue with a new build from a reputable builder. They charge what they do because that expertise is worth it. I'm a hopeless DIYer but you make a great point. Thanks for watching Hops!
We pick up a sand rail last November, cleaned up the mouse nests and mud dobbers. Put it back together, new spark plugs, wires, points,condenser, fuel pump. Just to mention a couple other things. Got it running. Noticed no 1 was cold. Compression check not good 2,3 and 4 around 100lbs. No. 1 goose egg. Noticed bad leak between head and barrel. Timing mark way off. Haven't check end play yet.
Agreed plymouths1. This one is an extreme example, but there may be some room to broaden our concept of "good" for the stock-ish builds. Not ideal, but cool if it works!
Met you at the April NDBS at Bulli and watching all your contents. Your machining is wondrous to my brain. Snoopy in New England for parts July and August. If yo are in need of anything special, send me a picture of it and I will try to find it. I’ll send pics if I do.
Thanks James, that's really nice of you. Right now I have everything I need except time! I hope to see you again at one of the future shows, thanks again
Time is elusive. I’m retired and I get to spend unlimited time there. It goes without say that organization in a garage is critical. I keep changing the garage operations inside around like moving the welding table closer to the door to sweep out the metal grindings outside. My entire shop is on wheels so you can bring the bench to the project and I have an engine table (hydraulic) that fits under the vehicle for removal/installation (and the single policy helps), but having things movable is nice. Your my favorite channel, I have watched all your shows, even the Rv ones🙈.
@@jamesmorris7074 I agree. It was a game changer for me when I decided the garage would only be used for the work I do there; no storage of unrelated stuff. I also prefer everything possible to be on wheels. Seems we think alike! I hope to share a material handling project soon that you may enjoy. Thanks for your support, it's great to have you with us!
Yeah, not a lot of good signs here. I'd like to think these engines get treated better now that they are classics but a few decades ago they were treated like disposable aging economy cars. Still fascinating to see what goes on in a VW engine, good or bad! Thanks for being here Jeff!
When you were rotating the rocker --- and saying --- excessive play ---- you could see the valve going in and out ------- I know when one is building a Race Engine ---- They give more -- CLEARANCE -- to the Crank -- Rods -- and in your case ---- more ---- END PLAY ----- i bet if you look really close at the Engine Block numbers ---- you will find it to be one of Gene Berg's first race engines that he built ------ might put it back together and see what it will do in the Quarter Mile ----- I Bet You Will Be Surprised ---- And if I remember right ----- That ---- INSULATION ---- under the Tins was put there ---- it help in getting the Heads up to temperature in the Quarter Mile run ---- he didn't have -- TIME -- to sit at the light and let the engine warm up ------ once you are staged it's time to GO ----- Gene had a lot of --- COOL --- ideas ----- Another one that he had ------ to ---- REDUCE ---- fiction was to ---- NOT --- let the Crankshaft Seal make contact with the crank ----- I think later --- he realized --- Why even put one in --------Gene was a man ahead of his time ------------ Enjoyed your Dog getting in there wanting see what you were doing ---- wondering why don't you give me the same amount of time ----- they are fun to have ----- Keeps us going ------ Have a GOOD week ---- and Thank You for Finding The Very First Engine that Gene ever Built ------- Don't lose any of those parts ----- Berg Enterprises may just want them back ---------- Rodney
Thanks Rodney. I'm unsure of the engine's history but no doubt Gene was an innovator. I read all of his writings I could get my hands on. Roadie is a good dog, and likes being in the shop. Have a good week!
What is your worst engine teardown story? Comment below!
No sling washer installed. ACE hardware for head stud nuts and washers ... Screws used for dowel pins for main bearings. Orings for valve guide seals ...The list goes on. And on
Coke cans used for shims around the main bearings when it needed an align bore.
@@type4revolutionstudio That's a good list Jeff, I'm sure you've seen more than your share of VW nightmares. Screws for dowel pins is a fun one!
@@bedlamite42 Oh wow that's bad. Did they poke holes for oil passages with a screwdriver?
Great to watch this! Thanks. I am not the only one here that's curious about how the internals look. Dig it.
Thanks @Oldbugssy , I was really curious too. Thanks for the support!
I bought a “running motor “ on the samba dropped to a friend engine builder. Engine never ran, paid the man the 500$. Contacted him and I got back $100 and a very valuable lesson 😬!!
Ouch, that stings a bit. Even the ones that "run" may be used up. Issues really start to surface under sustained load, which makes buying a runner really difficult. I bought a VW that "runs, drives, and stops" one time only to find out it needed a lot of help to keep running, driving, and stopping. Sorry it went bad for you but glad you're here!
well hitting jugs for more then two hours after day's off socking. jugs and pistons ready for the garbage and bought new once.
your engine got way more end play then our oval. i hope you can rescue that block for later, but i guess not.
good video
Thanks '55! That sounds like a long time trying to get the cylinders out of a case, no fun. And you're right, lots of end play and doesn't look good for this case for a good rebuild. May just have to experiment with it instead! Thanks for watching as always!
You've got the patience of a saint! I'd be inventing curse words which, of course, could be edited out of the video. Maybe you're not that saintly! Good thing you've got a nosy assistant!
One problem I had with that '68 VW with the rebuilt engine was the crankcase oil being diluted with gas. That was never solved and I bought a new car in 1974. How could gas get in the crankcase? Perhaps through the mechanical fuel pump? Bad seal or diaphragm?
Good luck again and I am looking forward to more videos!
Thanks @ajk2739. I have occasional have discussions with the universe that don't make the final cut. It's feasible that it gets there through the pump. I'd also be curious about the carb leaking down some way. The latter may be revealed by a long cranking time when the car has sat for an extended amount of time; the idea being the bowl is empty. It's a bad situation for sure. Thanks for watching!
You should learn how to rebush those carbs yourself, since it is so common to have a little air leak there. There is a guy "Motoresto Florida, that does motorcycles - but he is super good at carbs, and has a lathe. But, maybe you could get one of those harbor freight mini lathes, and do it yourself. I'd always send mine out too - think it used to cost about 30 bucks. Haven't worked on a vw in a long time, but ... we'll see what the future holds. Cool video - brought back so many memories.
Yeah I agree, learning the re-bushing process is on the list. I have an old lathe I'm learning to use, will probably need a specific reamer too. We'll get there! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
Woah…. That’s some serious end play!!
Yeah, that's the kind of end play that goes CLUNK instead of *tick*. Times is hawd.
Wow defo needs rebuilding but can’t wait to see what you do next to this engine Brent
Thanks @vwcoco , this one is a mess but having fun with the process!
I don't have a worst engine tear down but a funny story. I used to have a bunch of bugs, busses, ghia's and did full frame off restorations. A neighbor (big time "" dealer) wanted some help swapping motors out. Went to an apartment complex, and parked next to another bus as I recall to swap motors into his bus. I have the motor out, and putting it in his bus (about 45 minutes) and he keeps looking around, a little nervous. He forgot to tell me that it wasn't his bus I was taking the motor out of. So, I guess back in the day, without knowing it, I stole a motor ... boy was I young and dumb. VW's got stolen all the time back then. I still want a baja or buggie, but don't have room for another car.
Great story @bennyblanko3, that was sketchy! I hope you find a way to add a baja or buggy to the mix, they're fun! Thanks for being here.
wow! yea lets open it up and see some more!
Absolutely Annie, we can't expect it to be good but should at least be fun!
Oh please tear it down and let’s look inside!!
Wouldn't pass up the chance, it's like looking away from a train wreck!
When we picked up Abbey from her 20 yr resting place that engine had that much play in it as well. Unfortunately that case had already been machined to the limit. So we found a new engine.
Will be interesting to see the reason for the JB Weld on the top of the case.
Y'all have done an amazing job on Abbey. Couldn't ask for a better college car either! JB weld on an engine case is a desperate times strategy for sure, there has to be some drama lurking. Thanks for the support!
I've been burnt on vw engines and it's to the point I won't buy anything used now .. the money I've spent on "good" engines could have got me a new one
Makes sense. Hard to argue with a new build from a reputable builder. They charge what they do because that expertise is worth it. I'm a hopeless DIYer but you make a great point. Thanks for watching Hops!
We pick up a sand rail last November, cleaned up the mouse nests and mud dobbers. Put it back together, new spark plugs, wires, points,condenser,
fuel pump. Just to mention a couple other things. Got it running. Noticed no 1 was cold. Compression check not good 2,3 and 4 around 100lbs. No. 1 goose egg. Noticed bad leak between head and barrel. Timing mark way off. Haven't check end play yet.
Good catch John, maybe take a look at the head stud torque. Hopefully all ends well, that rail should be fun!
This case is GONE, I don't know how you can save it but I'll keep watching anyway.
That's cool, thanks @masbeetleboy9169. Yeah, it's really rough but fun to wrestle with it. Thanks for watching!
That one, has had all the love, rubbed off it. It needs a lot more given.
Indeed, it's in a bad state. It'll be fun to see if anything can be done with it. Thanks as always for being here!
Trying to find a good case is getting harder to find these days, great video.
Agreed plymouths1. This one is an extreme example, but there may be some room to broaden our concept of "good" for the stock-ish builds. Not ideal, but cool if it works!
Finding out what is wrong with an engine by disassembling it, takes a lot to understand what is the correct condition.
Thanks James, its a great way to learn. Thanks for the support!
Met you at the April NDBS at Bulli and watching all your contents. Your machining is wondrous to my brain. Snoopy in New England for parts July and August. If yo are in need of anything special, send me a picture of it and I will try to find it. I’ll send pics if I do.
Thanks James, that's really nice of you. Right now I have everything I need except time! I hope to see you again at one of the future shows, thanks again
Time is elusive. I’m retired and I get to spend unlimited time there. It goes without say that organization in a garage is critical. I keep changing the garage operations inside around like moving the welding table closer to the door to sweep out the metal grindings outside.
My entire shop is on wheels so you can bring the bench to the project and I have an engine table (hydraulic)
that fits under the vehicle for removal/installation (and the single policy helps), but having things movable is nice. Your my favorite channel, I have watched all your shows, even the Rv ones🙈.
@@jamesmorris7074 I agree. It was a game changer for me when I decided the garage would only be used for the work I do there; no storage of unrelated stuff. I also prefer everything possible to be on wheels. Seems we think alike! I hope to share a material handling project soon that you may enjoy. Thanks for your support, it's great to have you with us!
Looking inside will be a little shop of horrors . Lots of no nos I see on that motor already😮
Yeah, not a lot of good signs here. I'd like to think these engines get treated better now that they are classics but a few decades ago they were treated like disposable aging economy cars. Still fascinating to see what goes on in a VW engine, good or bad! Thanks for being here Jeff!
your videos are so good, it must take you a lot of time, top quality
You must have edited video before! Thanks @dpose6525, really appreciate the support.
Brother we both solve problems but they sure are in different worlds :)
Indeed we do. Fair to say the solutions you provide are a bit more marketable. Thanks for popping in!
So odd knowing what is in the future. I'm so glad I started out of order, like life. Messed up.
Thanks for watching!
When you were rotating the rocker --- and saying --- excessive play ---- you could see the valve going in and out ------- I know when one is building a Race Engine ---- They give more -- CLEARANCE -- to the Crank -- Rods -- and in your case ---- more ---- END PLAY ----- i bet if you look really close at the Engine Block numbers ---- you will find it to be one of Gene Berg's first race engines that he built ------ might put it back together and see what it will do in the Quarter Mile ----- I Bet You Will Be Surprised ---- And if I remember right ----- That ---- INSULATION ---- under the Tins was put there ---- it help in getting the Heads up to temperature in the Quarter Mile run ---- he didn't have -- TIME -- to sit at the light and let the engine warm up ------ once you are staged it's time to GO ----- Gene had a lot of --- COOL --- ideas ----- Another one that he had ------ to ---- REDUCE ---- fiction was to ---- NOT --- let the Crankshaft Seal make contact with the crank ----- I think later --- he realized --- Why even put one in --------Gene was a man ahead of his time ------------ Enjoyed your Dog getting in there wanting see what you were doing ---- wondering why don't you give me the same amount of time ----- they are fun to have ----- Keeps us going ------ Have a GOOD week ---- and Thank You for Finding The Very First Engine that Gene ever Built ------- Don't lose any of those parts ----- Berg Enterprises may just want them back ---------- Rodney
Thanks Rodney. I'm unsure of the engine's history but no doubt Gene was an innovator. I read all of his writings I could get my hands on. Roadie is a good dog, and likes being in the shop. Have a good week!
WOW!! That's the worst rear main I have ever seen!! The older blocks are not worth building anyway.
You've got that right Rick, this thing is a mess. We'll see what we can do with it for fun and education but no high hopes here!