"What's your plan?" "Well, I thought we'd go back, with one knife between the two of us, and overpower him and his buddy." "Um... can we bring more than one knife?" "F*k you, Jeff, I found the tunnel, I make the plan."
lol. at first i thought,.. What did he hit the guy with? a swimming pool fun noodle? the guy turned around like it didn't even phase him. but then i remembered, they said he was a tweaker... So he was probably all spun out on meth and didn't even feel it. lol
It makes sense. Earlier he talked about how the police found the killer's body as well as one unidentified body. He was the unidentified body. They couldn't identify him, because he wasn't supposed to exist in that time period as an adult. He's from 20-30 years into their future, so ofcourse he wouldn't show up in any of their systems. Only his child self is meant to exist in that time. So, his child self continues to live his life, with the tragedy that his adult self accidentally set in motion, until he reaches the point in his life where he finds the tunnel and takes his friend through it, which leads to his death. It's a paradoxical loop. His desire to save his parents is what ended up getting them killed. By travelling to his past as an adult in an attempt to kill the murderer before the murderer kills his parents, he accidentally ends up giving the murderer a reason to go and kill them. It's a loop. Neither of them can escape from it, because by the time they realize they're in the loop the events that caused it have already happened. Btw this is not my comment it is somebody elses big brain but im just spreading it around so that it has a better chance of getting looked at as his was a reply
Hey, I remember commenting this some years ago. Lol, this is a first for me. I did reply it to someone. I suppose I could go dig it up to prove it, but I don't particularly feel the need to prove that. I know I made this reply and that's enough for me. Anyway, thanks for the repost, man. First time I see someone reposting something I said to help it get attention. I suppose I should be flattered, but I was really just dissecting the movie for someone who didn't fully understand what happened. Since then, I've also come to understand the underlying message of the movie, which escaped me at the time of making that post. It's about letting go of your past and not letting a tragedy of your past define your future. Let it go and move on and you'll live a much happier and more fulfilled life. Clinging on to the past with this level of obsession means you don't really have a future of your own until you've learned to cope. I always liked this movie short. It's a great movie.
Why couldn't they identify the brother? It doesn't say how badly the body is burned. Even with burned body to a crisp, some DNA should still be viable and there is also tooth impressions. Which could lead the police to believe it is the future brother of Jeff.
Also if they go back in time to kill the murderer of their parents, what happened the first time? The first loop or iteration when they were only kids but the future selfs were not there. The murderer wouldn't be there either. There has to be a first iteration to start with and then for the plot to even happen they would need to travel back in time and a reason to travel back in time which they wouldn't have there would be no future them to bring the murderer over.
You spreading it around sounds like, spreading around lies without realizing it. Just as the brothers don't realize they are part of the loop as the video clearly suggests. But there still has to be a 1st iteration where there are no future them in the past.
@@Xylarxcode Hey! I just came back to your reply, its been some time. During lock down all I could do was watch endless videos, and time travel videos in particular were amazing and fascinating to me. But yeah, you have an amazing analysis on the film and your ability to dissect it is in my eyes talent. You seem like an intelligent person just from the way you talk, I hope you take it as a compliment. But I hope your enjoying life and best of wishes to you in life as your a stranger that ill never interact with again, so goodbye. And make sure to enjoy life at its fullest!
Thank you so much for adding my subtitles, guys! ♥♥ You did a fantastic work here and I enjoyed each and every second of this short film. You deserve millions of views and likes! And don't worry about the quality of the subtitles, it's my job (and my pleasure)! ♥♥
Thank you so much for making the subtitles! It was so kind of you to create these so it can open up the film to a new audience. You are awesome - myself, and the crew, all greatly appreciate your generosity and support! 🙏🏼
This is one of the best shorts I've seen in awhile. Nice treatment of the whole "can't go back and fix it" time travel concept. Good job! Also, cinematography is superb. Great gloomy/autumn background, really heightens the mood!😊❤
“People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.” The Tenth Doctor
@systembve Sally: ...'Started well, that sentence.' Doctor: 'It... got away from me, yeah.' Sally: 'Okay-that was weird. Like, you can hear me.' Doctor: 'Well, I CAN hear you'...
I'm afraid I don't quite understand your villain with the long blond hair. What was his motivation for killing them? Why is he seemingly not affected by punches and stabs? Why do your characters consistently hit him once and they pause in awe? Why is he all terminator one moment and then is all "Ughhh!!!", "I'll kill you!" the next? How does a downward swing of an axe create that kind of wound on a bicep? Really not meaning to be too harsh, those are just a few things that confused me about the short.
I had to watch it again for the motivation but here's what I think it is: The son (protagonist) is Jeff Hunter Jr., so the villain with the long hair thought he was being attacked in the night by Jeff Jr. He reads his ID, and finds the name, then looks into the phone book to find where Jeff Hunter lived, and found Jeff Jr.'s dad. So the time travel WAS his motivation for murder. Can't explain his godlike immunites though.
You’re right on the plot. For the “invulnerability” you should look up the inhuman things people on meth and PCP can do. You can run on broken legs and lift heavy objects while tearing all the tendons from the bone and still keep going - it’s terrifying stuff
Student Chao Ren they needed that in the plot to figure out why he went to their house (because they went to attack him as adults) if he just had his driver’s license, they wouldn’t realize it was their fault he found the parents - if you mean driver’s license of one of the boys as adults, that would have caused all sorts of confusion in the past when they were children - and also would have led him to another address (assuming jeff didn’t stay in the family home)
Thank you so much! I am so glad you enjoyed the film and the sadness that is a predestination paradox. I think this should have more views too! Please help share and subscribe :) thank you again for watching.
No prob, your short movie is great, and youtube is weird... But, your dad is italian? P.s.: by the way, I'm obsessed by the theme of the temporal loop! 😉
@@felixpham4934 Their parents were friends and were hanging out together that evening, as were the boys. Remember, their moms (plural) took them to the lake. I think there were a couple of other times you could tell from what they said that they weren't brothers. Finally, the description of the short describes it as "Two estranged friends attempt to rewrite the past..."
I read the comments to see what others had to say before I said what I have to say. This was very good The only discrepancy in the whole plan with the young men was they didn't take enough Weaponry with them to confront the drug addict and what were they planning on doing? just holding him for the night Etc. But that is the reality of people who are not aggressors they don't think ahead when they're trying to do something like this they don't really have a plan and they get themselves into very serious trouble. I knew it was going to be something really strange I was just surprised he had them go over to the Killer's house instead of that they were too late by the time they got to the house to stop him but the other ones that saved the boys so you really couldn't change history all you did was save the boys and that the body that was in there was his friend. It's also a very good tale about not living in the past not holding on to your anger over a terrible loss and believe me I've been there in something like this. Bad horrible things happen to good people it's not God doing it it's not your fault just sometimes things happen. I'm hoping that maybe he makes another film sewing this man trying to go back and change things so that even his friend doesn't end up dying in the future. Most important part he learned was you don't look the killer Know Who You Are then the killer doesn't choose you as a victim. Felt the first of cinematography was beautiful the outdoor scenes were just simply gorgeous the murders of the mothers was definitely sadistic enough and thank you for not the excessive blood and gore that it could have been. The voice-over narration was great although hard to hear in the beginning and not quite sure what that was but other than that it was it helped carry the story along. really hope you do well in this line of work because it appears that you have talent and if given a chance could do so much more I know it's extremely competitive especially in this day in age or 10 grand can literally make a really good film so good luck because this was a very good thesis film and I really love time travel films and they're one of the hottest genres around and books Etc so you can't go wrong but I'm sure you'll get into other things also
The main characters saved themselves as children, by going back in time and trying to kill Roger (the villain) but by doing that they made all the events and the murders transpire. It is based off of a causality paradox. Thanks for the comment!
Jacob Robert Desio Can you please explain why the killers went looking for their families? I didn’t understand how the killers figured out who they were. That’s what’s driving me a little crazy. I hate not understanding! Thanks!
Alissa Nesson when they went to kill the bad guy, the fat brother was in trouble and called his brother's name aloud "Jeff, Jeff, Jeff". The killer heard the name, searched it up in phone directory and found Jeff's dad's name "Jeff Sr". Killer went to their house and killed them all. There are plot holes like how did the Killer do everything so fast etc... But this is a short movie so yeah
In the junkyard when he puts the knife to his throat, The killer grabbed his ID which had the name Jeff Hunter (Jr.) then the killer looked the name up in the phone book and found his father Jeff Hunter (Senior).
I would like to see a true paradox film, one where, no matter what one does to change the past(tens, hundreds of different ways to try to change it), it always ends the same. Jacob Robert Desio wrote: "absolutely, there are an infinite variation of choices they could make *but because they keep making the same choices* and have become stuck in a time loop." So, really this movie is about insanity. Only insane people think that you can keep making the same choices and end up with a different outcome.
AlabamaJRB, they have no idea that they have made those choices because they cannot see the future. To them it is always the first time making a decision. There are multiple kinds of paradoxes - mine is based off a predestination paradox which is a "real paradox" - I would recommended researching different paradoxes so you can see how they all are quite different. Also, that is not the definition of insanity. "Insanity" is a legal term that declares a persons mental state or you can take the more modern definition of "someone who is mentally ill" but the whole "insanity is making the same choices hoping for different results" is just something people say - that's not a real thing. Thanks for watching the movie and sharing your thoughts! Have a wonderful day
AlabamaJRB the movie "the time machine" is just that. No matter how many times he tries to save his beloved from dying, she still dies but in a different way
Can you explain why you liked primer? After I watched it I didn’t understand the hype. I thought it would have been a better short film personally. I would love to hear why you like it so when I rewatch it i can go into it with that lens.
I do not get WHY this producer has SO little subs. This is absolutely a must watch!! This is the best time travel short film ever, no wait, the BEST short film to date!
Aebomations, that is genuinely the most flattering comment I have ever gotten. Thank you so much for your kind words and for watching. Please help me share the film and subscribe for more content coming soon!
The sound effects are definitely not on par with the rest of the film and I still cringe at a couple of the sound effects when I watch it lol. Thanks for watching and commenting! Have a great day
Why didn't he yell out while trying to climb back up? This was really good though. I figured it out as soon as he says they find the guy's dead body and one unindentified body.
absolutely, there are an infinite variation of choices they could make but because they keep making the same choices and have become stuck in a time loop. Thanks for watching and commenting
The guy now has a memory of the past loops it seems, so he should be able to gradually modify the loop. Unfortunately, each outcome is going to be chaotically random. This is an interesting version of Groundhog Day.
Nothing changed. "not a damned thing" He still remembers seeing his friend's 15 year older self in the window and that friend still dies. Unless he can go back to that freshly remembered scene again and be a second version of his older self to interfere.
The reason that they live is to protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past... its just a paradox
Great story!! I’ve been watching a mixture of sci-fi and horror shorts, and many are “mood pieces” or very open ended. This was a real treat - a poignant, thoughtful take on Serenity Prayer wisdom. Well done!
That wasn’t hard to understand at all if u understand the concept of a paradox. They went back to save their parents which caused the killing of their parents that they didn’t realise was gonna happen when they decided to do it. When the kid says he saw himself, it was the future him coming back, so it already has happened. That’s when the future him realises it when he says to his mate I saw myself as a kid. It all made sense to me. As for how the killer found their parents, back before the internet u had to look things up in a manual or book. Compare to other paradox shorts this one was simple but got the point across, which is what every paradox shorts need to do. Good job guys!!!
my problem with finding his dad in the phonebook is.... how did he know his name? he says "my dad is jeff hunter SENIOR" ok.... well, the killer would only know your name as Jeff, nothing else. in a big enough city or town where there's an entire section of town "no one talks about" means the killer wouldn't know who jeff is, especially if jeff (the son) is an adult, not a child, so, i mean, none of that makes any sense. the killer wouldn't have been able to find where they live in a random phonebook just based off the fact that the one character shouted Jeff's name.
@@tirkentube that murderer saw his name on wallet or something at 10:15 . That's where he knew which name he should search on phone book. He simply searched jeff hunter.
THIS IS SO BIZARRE. All my life I have remembered what I seem to feel is my first ever dream which I have never understood. The very first shot, of the pond rippling is exactly that dream. I am 57
Thank you for dreaming of our film as a child! I have chills all over right now. It is a good reminder that time is not linear and that we are all connected. Thank you so much for commenting.
@@jacobrobertdesio9265 i am as surprised as you are Jacob. I always remembered this dream as the one from when I was born. It's my "awakening" from the womb. That's how I always thought of it, anyways. It has never made sense to me though. how could i remember my own birth? Good luck with all your future projects. Jim
Beautiful cinematography, but the sound was very off in the "action" sequence. The script was good, but the scenes in the house was off and didn't fit well with the rest of the short.
The house scenes (everyone on set referred to those shots as "The Murder House") were originally written and choreographed in a two story house and the mother got dragged down the staircase. A couple days before the shoot we lost that location (the property owner decided two days before they only wanted us there five hours and we ended up shooting for thirteen hours so it would have been impossible). Last minute we had to rewrite the scene for the one story house we shot in and the scene suffered because if it. As for the sound I completely agree - the sound is the weakest part of the film in my opinion.
These dudes take the Gilligans Island approach to problem solving. Lets try to find guy in drug infested neighborhood that we know nothing about where we could be killed by a host of people instead of something more logical.
"Gilligans Island approach to problem solving" - perfect fit for this movie plot. I was scanning the comments to see if anyone felt like I did, and you nailed it.
I don’t understand the part where he talks about how he saw his future self outside the window, and the part where he says his father was Jeff Hunter Sr, other than that everything was great
It reminded me of a Batman comic where he goes back in time to kill the man who shot his parents, but then as his parents and himself start to leave the alleyway he realizes that no one is going to kill his parents, so he has to shoot his own parents otherwise He won’t ever become Batman and save all those people, so he shoots his own parents and runs away so that young Bruce grown up to be Batman
In my rather long life, I have never heard anyone say "light shimmering off the water". The brother that says that talks in a rather literary and stilted manner, I think. However, the film has some very professional production qualities, and the acting is pretty good for an independent short film. I hope you keep up your efforts in film making.
Periherlion just cause you never heard in your rather long life, anyone say "light shimmering off the water" doesn't mean people don't say it or it doesn't realistically happen .... I never heard of the word bloke, oi or wanker, shag or countless other words before I heard them for the first time, United Kingdomers or British people say a lot. Before I ever heard of certain words, does that make those words fake or otherwise untrue phrases/terms?
Strange, I used that exact term myself to describe the time my wife and I picknicked and napped by a Tarn in the UK's Lake District. There really was something captivating about the way the dwindling light was shimmering off the water.
theres some bootstrap paradox going on and i dig it (like you dont know for sure whether them going back in time is what set off the events initially or its their parents being murderered)
Nicely done. Good acting, pretty good dialogue/script, well done story and good pacing. Production wise I especially liked how realistic the hits and whacks sounded. So many movies over emphasize the thuds and cracks and it sounds fake but here they sound real, so well done. Only criticisms are that it's a little bit hard to follow and a bit convoluted in the middle but I get that it's a complex story that has to be expressed in a very short time so it's understandable. The second criticism is the score/soundtrack which took me out of the action with the droning synths but I get it's a low budget production and John Williams probably wasn't available so that's also understandable. So, not dealbreaker criticisms at all. One of the better time travel shorts I've seen. Good stuff. :)
It makes sense. Earlier he talked about how the police found the killer's body as well as one unidentified body. He was the unidentified body. They couldn't identify him, because he wasn't supposed to exist in that time period as an adult. He's from 20-30 years into their future, so ofcourse he wouldn't show up in any of their systems. Only his child self is meant to exist in that time. So, his child self continues to live his life, with the tragedy that his adult self accidentally set in motion, until he reaches the point in his life where he finds the tunnel and takes his friend through it, which leads to his death. It's a paradoxical loop. His desire to save his parents is what ended up getting them killed. By travelling to his past as an adult in an attempt to kill the murderer before the murderer kills his parents, he accidentally ends up giving the murderer a reason to go and kill them. It's a loop. Neither of them can escape from it, because by the time they realize they're in the loop the events that caused it have already happened.
If time travel become possible, these philosophical paradoxes will never exist in reality. And in fact we don't no whether we had Time Travelled in our past or not .So we may still travel to our past and meet our past version .
If time travel was possible, then there are only two ways how it could work: Either everything happens in the same universe, in which case whatever happened already has happened and thus cannot be changed. If you travel into the past to change it, you won't, as your time travel is the reason why the past is the way it always has been. This is what happens in this movie. Yet this unlikely to be the case as the bootstrap paradox remains, which can only be solved if time is an illusion of our perception. The other alternative is that whenever you change the past, you create an alternative timeline you've never been part of. In that case there are two possibilities when you travel back: You travel back to your own timeline, in which case nothing has changed at all as you didn't change your own timeline. Or you travel forward in the alternative timeline, however, in that timeline you've never traveled back to change the past, so you won't take the place of the future-you, the future-you already exists when you arrive in the future and he has your place in that timeline. So you can see what your life would have been if events played out that way but you can't live that life unless you kill the future-you and take his place.
Your theory is very well thought out. Question for you: If backwards time travel will ever be possible, and you travel back 1 month to meet yourself, shouldn't you already have the memory of meeting yourself 1 month ago?
@@samuelsmith25 If you did see yourself in the past, the answer is yes. But in the movie that never happened. Well, actually it did, when they were standing on the bridge but as children the bridge was too far away to recognize who was standing on that bridge and the children also did not pay attention to the people on the bridge. And in the house, it almost happened but only almost when he pulled back the attacker. Ye that is something he did remember as an adult: He remembered that somebody he could not see pulled back that attacker, only to later on find out, that he did it himself.
Alright before I finish this short film, I will say I'm 2:09 into it and ive already begun to cry. The quality is GORGEOUS, the narration is ASTOUNDING. Please win some rewards for this, alright I'm gonna finish the movie now wish me luck. 10/10
Dutch Aquaria, your comment is so kind, my eyes teared up when I read your comment. This was a thesis film for my film school and my teachers hated the narration so I am really to happy to hear you liked it. I hope the rest of the movie lived up to the beginning ;)
Jeff I've discovered a portal in time and space, let's go face a drug crazed killer with no plan, concept or strategy. Best of all, let's not go to whee we know he is going, let's go to where we think he might be. Oh and no guns, spears, pointy sticks or anything ok.
Just because you didn't see them talk about the plan doesn't mean there isn't one ;) I left out several scenes to keep this "short". Thanks for commenting!
Thats why its called a paradox, the tweaker (with fantastic shiny hair) only went to that address because the two idiots attacked him. Tweaker gets Jeffs wallet/id then goes to his fathers house (also Jeff Hunter) and goes on a murder spree. Btw I wonder if Jeff got his name from the actor that starred as Captain Pike in the first ever Star Trek? He was in other films also, most notably The Searchers with John Wayne...
Tom Treacy very well said! I actually just made up the name (it’s connected to another one of my characters in another short film I made). That’s interesting trivia though! Thanks for commenting!
Wait, so the people who try to save their parents ACTUALLY kill them?! That is such a plot twist! Edit: I mean they indirectly as the person moved so the axe went straight to the mother
what is my second favourite thing? answer:time travel what is my third favourite thing? answer: short films so guess what my most favourite thing is. that's right chocolate btw if the train at station A goes to station B and the train at station B goes to station A how much does a elephant weigh
I did not understand this at all. All I got is they attack the guy, don't finish the job-not sure why?-and the killer the gets his victims names and address's from someone shouting out 'Geoff'!! Doesn't make sense. Or does it?
As many inconsistencies as time paradoxes. The worst is that it is clear that the first guy always comes back LATER than the entered the tunnel while then second guy, at the end, comes back BEFORE. Please be more consistent, especially when playing with time travel paradoxes.
I'm trying! Lol. We are writing a script currently for a really great short action film. Subscribe so you will get alerted when it's out! Thanks for the comment and support :)
I really liked it, though I had issue with some of the sounds during the climax of the film - which muddled the most important sequence of the film. Perhaps a soundscape over the top of it would have worked to clean up the disjointed feel it gave because there seemed to a mix of low impact sounds when there should have been louder thuds, whacks and struggling sounds. But it was interesting to watch. I think you should not have mentioned the "other" body because that gave it away. Primer avoided this kind of issue with plots (Shane did not give us all the clues) because there were some many permutations that it allowed the audience to imagine what was going on. By doing this Primer became a piecing-the puzzle-together film, which is what you got the audience doing way too early in my opinion. In yours I felt we were just watching it play out "as it happened" with no chance to change the future. Great cinematography, voice acting and music. My final opinion is the climax just needed a few more beats and more flow to not feel so panicked??? if that makes sense. It was like you didn't want to show to much, when then was the time to show it all. I'm going to subscribe as I'm looking forward to your next one.
You really waited for bloom the fog?? or artificially made it? Whatever, What a fantastic film. I think this cinema is time paradox genres standard. and now, I'm waiting for your next pieces.
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Time travel cannot change anything for it has already happened We had already been back in time when the event happened so its always guaranteed While we may of caused something that already happened in time travel, we can never change what has already happened Alot of time travel clips or shows ignore this but I love that this one did not
Can someone explain what the twist was? At 11:08 one of the characters says his dad was Jeff Senior - the killer? How did he not know who his dad was before? What tipped him off after being attacked? At first I thought they were brothers so it was confusing at first.
Watched this and 'Frankie' by Mike Pappa today and both are excellent short films. Possibly the best I have seen ever. Well certainly on the subject of time manipulation for sure.
Excellent film! I only wish it was longer! I wouldn't call the cinematography simple at all! I thought it was fantastic! Soundtrack either. But then, there really isn't a "soundtrack" It's more of a musical score, and so well done! Great Job Mr. Desio! Keep it up!
Thank you so much! I basically tried to cram a two hour film into fifteen minutes and I want to adapt it into a full length film soon. The majority of the music was an original composition from my friend and a very talented musician Aaron Honda. Thank you for the support and for the comment!
Will someone help me out and explain why the killers ended up going to their house? I was kinda confused on that point. I really thought they’d end up making the killers want revenge and inadvertently drop a full name or a wallet with address. But the name thing confused me. Help?
Roger took Jeff's wallet and read his name"Jeff Hunter Jr." and when he left he went to a phone book but since Jeff was a child at the time he goes and finds Jeff Hunter (Senior) in the phonebook and went to that address unaware it's his father. Let me know if that clears it up! Thanks for commenting!
Not quite the same thing. This makes it clear the future selfs cause their parent's murder. So what happened in the first iteration? What caused the murderer to go there? Who was the unidentified burned body, if there was one? Why would there be fire at all? We don't see Jeff start the blaze. If he did set it, why doesn't Jeff just not set the blaze and drag his brother's body back so there is no unidentified body?
I believe that if time travel was real, that you save your dead parents in past that they will be dead in presence.The past just reasets its self since its just a recording.
Please someone explain to me.. I understood half.. Dint get the part why/how jeff's dad is the killer...please someone tell me..dying of curiosity here
Sorry for the late response! His father was not the killer. Roger is the killer but he killed the parents because Jeff jr and Alan (the MCs) tried to kill him and when they failed Roger got Jeff's ID and saw his name so when he ran off he got a phone book and found Jeff Hunter but it was actually his parents (because they are in the past) so Roger attacked all of them. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Jacob Robert Desio thanks for explaining.. It is an amazing short film.. Loved everything about the film, how it was shot or edited,the acting etc. Brilliant work done there.. Please make more of such movies.. Xx
I think I understand what you are saying. The movie is about letting go of the past and moving forward. They can always choose to walk away but they don’t and that is why they are trapped in a time loop. If they walk away they can survive but they don’t know that and they always let themselves succumb to the desire to change their pasts by trying to save their parents. I meant it to be a metaphor for how we humans tend to get caught up looking back on past events and letting our future get destroyed as it unfolds.
"What's your plan?" "Well, I thought we'd go back, with one knife between the two of us, and overpower him and his buddy." "Um... can we bring more than one knife?" "F*k you, Jeff, I found the tunnel, I make the plan."
+Jake Pullman, Alan is not a very good friend... lol. Thanks for watching!
Jake Pullman 😂
whos to say a gun would make it any different since they didnt know how to use that either?
lol. at first i thought,.. What did he hit the guy with? a swimming pool fun noodle? the guy turned around like it didn't even phase him. but then i remembered, they said he was a tweaker... So he was probably all spun out on meth and didn't even feel it. lol
Jason Bossardt im glad you picked up on that ;)
It makes sense. Earlier he talked about how the police found the killer's body as well as one unidentified body. He was the unidentified body. They couldn't identify him, because he wasn't supposed to exist in that time period as an adult. He's from 20-30 years into their future, so ofcourse he wouldn't show up in any of their systems. Only his child self is meant to exist in that time. So, his child self continues to live his life, with the tragedy that his adult self accidentally set in motion, until he reaches the point in his life where he finds the tunnel and takes his friend through it, which leads to his death. It's a paradoxical loop. His desire to save his parents is what ended up getting them killed. By travelling to his past as an adult in an attempt to kill the murderer before the murderer kills his parents, he accidentally ends up giving the murderer a reason to go and kill them. It's a loop. Neither of them can escape from it, because by the time they realize they're in the loop the events that caused it have already happened. Btw this is not my comment it is somebody elses big brain but im just spreading it around so that it has a better chance of getting looked at as his was a reply
Hey, I remember commenting this some years ago. Lol, this is a first for me. I did reply it to someone. I suppose I could go dig it up to prove it, but I don't particularly feel the need to prove that. I know I made this reply and that's enough for me.
Anyway, thanks for the repost, man. First time I see someone reposting something I said to help it get attention. I suppose I should be flattered, but I was really just dissecting the movie for someone who didn't fully understand what happened.
Since then, I've also come to understand the underlying message of the movie, which escaped me at the time of making that post. It's about letting go of your past and not letting a tragedy of your past define your future. Let it go and move on and you'll live a much happier and more fulfilled life. Clinging on to the past with this level of obsession means you don't really have a future of your own until you've learned to cope.
I always liked this movie short. It's a great movie.
Why couldn't they identify the brother? It doesn't say how badly the body is burned. Even with burned body to a crisp, some DNA should still be viable and there is also tooth impressions.
Which could lead the police to believe it is the future brother of Jeff.
Also if they go back in time to kill the murderer of their parents, what happened the first time? The first loop or iteration when they were only kids but the future selfs were not there. The murderer wouldn't be there either. There has to be a first iteration to start with and then for the plot to even happen they would need to travel back in time and a reason to travel back in time which they wouldn't have there would be no future them to bring the murderer over.
You spreading it around sounds like, spreading around lies without realizing it. Just as the brothers don't realize they are part of the loop as the video clearly suggests.
But there still has to be a 1st iteration where there are no future them in the past.
@@Xylarxcode Hey! I just came back to your reply, its been some time. During lock down all I could do was watch endless videos, and time travel videos in particular were amazing and fascinating to me. But yeah, you have an amazing analysis on the film and your ability to dissect it is in my eyes talent. You seem like an intelligent person just from the way you talk, I hope you take it as a compliment. But I hope your enjoying life and best of wishes to you in life as your a stranger that ill never interact with again, so goodbye. And make sure to enjoy life at its fullest!
Thank you so much for adding my subtitles, guys! ♥♥ You did a fantastic work here and I enjoyed each and every second of this short film. You deserve millions of views and likes! And don't worry about the quality of the subtitles, it's my job (and my pleasure)! ♥♥
Thank you so much for making the subtitles! It was so kind of you to create these so it can open up the film to a new audience. You are awesome - myself, and the crew, all greatly appreciate your generosity and support! 🙏🏼
This is pure gold my man. It's my pleasure to come across something like this. WOW.
You just made my day! Thank you!
So... where is this tunnel? I want to go back 28 years and NOT meet my ex.
SHADOWBEAR82763 dude.... How old r u?
Born 8-27-63
Fantastic idea, I couldnt agree more...
I wish I had never met your ex as well. Lol
But then your going back in time trying to stop it would result in you meeting them, ironically.
@@sadalien9898
What difference does it make??
Yay it looks amazing can't wait to see your movies/films in the future
Cosmo Prod. Thank you so much cosmo! I was just about to email you and let you know it was posted. You did great! Thank you for everything :)
Oooooor in the past ;)
Just time travel there
This is one of the best shorts I've seen in awhile. Nice treatment of the whole "can't go back and fix it" time travel concept. Good job!
Also, cinematography is superb. Great gloomy/autumn background, really heightens the mood!😊❤
"Is it better to walk away and move on with my life? Should I? I can't."
“People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.”
The Tenth Doctor
systembve r u talking about slime?
Oh I miss the David times... God damn BBC screw everything after Matt
Awlzy Awlzy!!
Ahem, ' time keeps on slippin' ,slippin' ,slippin' into the future '...
@systembve
Sally: ...'Started well, that sentence.'
Doctor: 'It... got away from me, yeah.'
Sally: 'Okay-that was weird. Like, you can hear me.'
Doctor: 'Well, I CAN hear you'...
I'm afraid I don't quite understand your villain with the long blond hair. What was his motivation for killing them? Why is he seemingly not affected by punches and stabs? Why do your characters consistently hit him once and they pause in awe? Why is he all terminator one moment and then is all "Ughhh!!!", "I'll kill you!" the next? How does a downward swing of an axe create that kind of wound on a bicep?
Really not meaning to be too harsh, those are just a few things that confused me about the short.
Bravo Kilo My thoughts exactly, especially what you said about him being invulnerable to attacks. Nonetheless I enjoyed it.
I had to watch it again for the motivation but here's what I think it is:
The son (protagonist) is Jeff Hunter Jr., so the villain with the long hair thought he was being attacked in the night by Jeff Jr. He reads his ID, and finds the name, then looks into the phone book to find where Jeff Hunter lived, and found Jeff Jr.'s dad. So the time travel WAS his motivation for murder.
Can't explain his godlike immunites though.
You’re right on the plot.
For the “invulnerability” you should look up the inhuman things people on meth and PCP can do. You can run on broken legs and lift heavy objects while tearing all the tendons from the bone and still keep going - it’s terrifying stuff
@ThePicklesGames they kept saying phone book but I’d believe it was his ID was a drivers license with his address on it.
Student Chao Ren they needed that in the plot to figure out why he went to their house (because they went to attack him as adults) if he just had his driver’s license, they wouldn’t realize it was their fault he found the parents - if you mean driver’s license of one of the boys as adults, that would have caused all sorts of confusion in the past when they were children - and also would have led him to another address (assuming jeff didn’t stay in the family home)
Acting 8
Sets 7
Editing 8
Story 8
Sound effects -100
This comment literally made me laugh out loud - I woke up my dog. Thanks for commenting and for the honesty ;)
Alas, they are bound to do it again and again for eternity
No, they only do it once.
No, it can also happen due to some fluctuation in time and space that the time loop ends
Another youtuber in my head..."my heart hurts without them.... " I know, I know....if only i could go back....touching.
A fuck#ing damned loop. Terrible and beatiful short movie at the same time. Why does it have so few views?! 10/10, men, you're great!
Thank you so much! I am so glad you enjoyed the film and the sadness that is a predestination paradox. I think this should have more views too! Please help share and subscribe :) thank you again for watching.
No prob, your short movie is great, and youtube is weird... But, your dad is italian? P.s.: by the way, I'm obsessed by the theme of the temporal loop! 😉
And only 90 likes??? C'mon guys, this was absolutely brilliant. Take a little time to show some love.
Its always the older brother's fault every damn time.
They are not brothers
@@lzclips541 they seem to have the same parents.
@@felixpham4934 Their parents were friends and were hanging out together that evening, as were the boys. Remember, their moms (plural) took them to the lake. I think there were a couple of other times you could tell from what they said that they weren't brothers. Finally, the description of the short describes it as "Two estranged friends attempt to rewrite the past..."
Ok... wasn’t expecting that onslaught of tears
I read the comments to see what others had to say before I said what I have to say. This was very good The only discrepancy in the whole plan with the young men was they didn't take enough Weaponry with them to confront the drug addict and what were they planning on doing? just holding him for the night Etc. But that is the reality of people who are not aggressors they don't think ahead when they're trying to do something like this they don't really have a plan and they get themselves into very serious trouble. I knew it was going to be something really strange I was just surprised he had them go over to the Killer's house instead of that they were too late by the time they got to the house to stop him but the other ones that saved the boys so you really couldn't change history all you did was save the boys and that the body that was in there was his friend. It's also a very good tale about not living in the past not holding on to your anger over a terrible loss and believe me I've been there in something like this. Bad horrible things happen to good people it's not God doing it it's not your fault just sometimes things happen. I'm hoping that maybe he makes another film sewing this man trying to go back and change things so that even his friend doesn't end up dying in the future. Most important part he learned was you don't look the killer Know Who You Are then the killer doesn't choose you as a victim. Felt the first of cinematography was beautiful the outdoor scenes were just simply gorgeous the murders of the mothers was definitely sadistic enough and thank you for not the excessive blood and gore that it could have been. The voice-over narration was great although hard to hear in the beginning and not quite sure what that was but other than that it was it helped carry the story along. really hope you do well in this line of work because it appears that you have talent and if given a chance could do so much more I know it's extremely competitive especially in this day in age or 10 grand can literally make a really good film so good luck because this was a very good thesis film and I really love time travel films and they're one of the hottest genres around and books Etc so you can't go wrong but I'm sure you'll get into other things also
Can someone please explain the plot here. I couldn't understand what exactly happened. 🤔
The main characters saved themselves as children, by going back in time and trying to kill Roger (the villain) but by doing that they made all the events and the murders transpire. It is based off of a causality paradox. Thanks for the comment!
Jacob Robert Desio Can you please explain why the killers went looking for their families? I didn’t understand how the killers figured out who they were. That’s what’s driving me a little crazy. I hate not understanding! Thanks!
Alissa Nesson when they went to kill the bad guy, the fat brother was in trouble and called his brother's name aloud "Jeff, Jeff, Jeff". The killer heard the name, searched it up in phone directory and found Jeff's dad's name "Jeff Sr". Killer went to their house and killed them all.
There are plot holes like how did the Killer do everything so fast etc... But this is a short movie so yeah
@@NeevanIssac but before Alan could scream for Jeff. Killer has already recognized Jeff by his name .. so.how?
In the junkyard when he puts the knife to his throat, The killer grabbed his ID which had the name Jeff Hunter (Jr.) then the killer looked the name up in the phone book and found his father Jeff Hunter (Senior).
I would like to see a true paradox film, one where, no matter what one does to change the past(tens, hundreds of different ways to try to change it), it always ends the same.
Jacob Robert Desio wrote: "absolutely, there are an infinite variation of choices they could make *but because they keep making the same choices* and have become stuck in a time loop."
So, really this movie is about insanity. Only insane people think that you can keep making the same choices and end up with a different outcome.
AlabamaJRB, they have no idea that they have made those choices because they cannot see the future. To them it is always the first time making a decision. There are multiple kinds of paradoxes - mine is based off a predestination paradox which is a "real paradox" - I would recommended researching different paradoxes so you can see how they all are quite different. Also, that is not the definition of insanity. "Insanity" is a legal term that declares a persons mental state or you can take the more modern definition of "someone who is mentally ill" but the whole "insanity is making the same choices hoping for different results" is just something people say - that's not a real thing. Thanks for watching the movie and sharing your thoughts! Have a wonderful day
Watch "Predestination" with Ethan Hawke and Sara Snook.
one of best fckedmybrain time loop movies..
AlabamaJRB the movie "the time machine" is just that. No matter how many times he tries to save his beloved from dying, she still dies but in a different way
Thanks for the info, have to give that a watch.
The movie "Predestination" is this taken to the extreme.
If you haven't seen it, it is a little bizarre, but worth a look.
I haven't seen it but I want to, the trailer looks great. Thank you for the recommendation:)
Predestination Is an AWESOME film and this was an awesome short
Predestination is ok, Primer is the gold standard by which every other time travel movie should be judged.
Yeah, Predestination is one of ‘the best time travel movie’ to the extreme
Can you explain why you liked primer? After I watched it I didn’t understand the hype. I thought it would have been a better short film personally. I would love to hear why you like it so when I rewatch it i can go into it with that lens.
I do not get WHY this producer has SO little subs. This is absolutely a must watch!! This is the best time travel short film ever, no wait, the BEST short film to date!
Aebomations, that is genuinely the most flattering comment I have ever gotten. Thank you so much for your kind words and for watching. Please help me share the film and subscribe for more content coming soon!
Ok :D I'll tell my friends about this channel!
Funny sound effects... crack... crunch... pop... kinda silly, but it grows on me ...
Great film... really enjoyed it
The sound effects are definitely not on par with the rest of the film and I still cringe at a couple of the sound effects when I watch it lol. Thanks for watching and commenting! Have a great day
Kellogs frosted flakes
At the end survived one can go back just before his friends came to him for showing that shitty tunnel
He did go back, But he fell in the valley and saw both of them going into the paradox.
Ye Old Closed-Time-Loop eh, nice.
Why didn't he yell out while trying to climb back up?
This was really good though. I figured it out as soon as he says they find the guy's dead body and one unindentified body.
Zachary Baker same
Making movie on this phenomenon is really tricky, but you did it really well.... great work.🤘🏻👍
they could tell the cops that at that time killer can come or they can tell the family to move away
absolutely, there are an infinite variation of choices they could make but because they keep making the same choices and have become stuck in a time loop. Thanks for watching and commenting
The guy now has a memory of the past loops it seems, so he should be able to gradually modify the loop. Unfortunately, each outcome is going to be chaotically random. This is an interesting version of Groundhog Day.
Nothing changed. "not a damned thing" He still remembers seeing his friend's 15 year older self in the window and that friend still dies. Unless he can go back to that freshly remembered scene again and be a second version of his older self to interfere.
"Hey so we're from the future and someone's about to murder y'all" isn't very believable
The reason that they live is to protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past and then they will grow up and will protect themselves in the past... its just a paradox
Well said! ;)
fantastic acting
+Benji Gronlie, thank you for watching and for commenting! I am so glad to hear you enjoyed the acting ;)
Charles thank you!
Great story!! I’ve been watching a mixture of sci-fi and horror shorts, and many are “mood pieces” or very open ended. This was a real treat - a poignant, thoughtful take on Serenity Prayer wisdom. Well done!
Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment, it just started my day out on a great note :)
Wow totally mind blowing
That wasn’t hard to understand at all if u understand the concept of a paradox. They went back to save their parents which caused the killing of their parents that they didn’t realise was gonna happen when they decided to do it. When the kid says he saw himself, it was the future him coming back, so it already has happened. That’s when the future him realises it when he says to his mate I saw myself as a kid. It all made sense to me. As for how the killer found their parents, back before the internet u had to look things up in a manual or book. Compare to other paradox shorts this one was simple but got the point across, which is what every paradox shorts need to do. Good job guys!!!
my problem with finding his dad in the phonebook is.... how did he know his name? he says "my dad is jeff hunter SENIOR" ok.... well, the killer would only know your name as Jeff, nothing else. in a big enough city or town where there's an entire section of town "no one talks about" means the killer wouldn't know who jeff is, especially if jeff (the son) is an adult, not a child, so, i mean, none of that makes any sense. the killer wouldn't have been able to find where they live in a random phonebook just based off the fact that the one character shouted Jeff's name.
@@tirkentube that murderer saw his name on wallet or something at 10:15 . That's where he knew which name he should search on phone book. He simply searched jeff hunter.
@@victoria11116 you're right. i see it now, i missed that somehow the first time around.
You go back to kill the killer and only bring a tiny knife? WTF?
THIS IS SO BIZARRE. All my life I have remembered what I seem to feel is my first ever dream which I have never understood. The very first shot, of the pond rippling is exactly that dream. I am 57
Thank you for dreaming of our film as a child! I have chills all over right now. It is a good reminder that time is not linear and that we are all connected. Thank you so much for commenting.
@@jacobrobertdesio9265 i am as surprised as you are Jacob. I always remembered this dream as the one from when I was born. It's my "awakening" from the womb. That's how I always thought of it, anyways. It has never made sense to me though. how could i remember my own birth?
Good luck with all your future projects.
Jim
@@jacobrobertdesio9265 one other addition to my last comment; in my dream, i never see the cause of the ripple, just the ripple in dark, rubbery water
This is like the 3rd paradox movie I saw haha but good stuff thanks ! More time travel stuff please!
Man. This is amazing. So glad I came across this.
+MikeM CrayZeyes, I'm glad you came across this too! Thanks for watching and please subscribe and share :)
Completely under prepared for the task at hand.
Beautiful cinematography, but the sound was very off in the "action" sequence. The script was good, but the scenes in the house was off and didn't fit well with the rest of the short.
The house scenes (everyone on set referred to those shots as "The Murder House") were originally written and choreographed in a two story house and the mother got dragged down the staircase. A couple days before the shoot we lost that location (the property owner decided two days before they only wanted us there five hours and we ended up shooting for thirteen hours so it would have been impossible). Last minute we had to rewrite the scene for the one story house we shot in and the scene suffered because if it. As for the sound I completely agree - the sound is the weakest part of the film in my opinion.
damn dude you've outdone yourself this time, loved the plot twist, that shit was actually intense!
Logan Boice, I'm so glad to hear you like it! Thank you for checking out the film!!
These dudes take the Gilligans Island approach to problem solving. Lets try to find guy in drug infested neighborhood that we know nothing about where we could be killed by a host of people instead of something more logical.
"Gilligans Island approach to problem solving" - perfect fit for this movie plot. I was scanning the comments to see if anyone felt like I did, and you nailed it.
I don’t understand the part where he talks about how he saw his future self outside the window, and the part where he says his father was Jeff Hunter Sr, other than that everything was great
It reminded me of a Batman comic where he goes back in time to kill the man who shot his parents, but then as his parents and himself start to leave the alleyway he realizes that no one is going to kill his parents, so he has to shoot his own parents otherwise He won’t ever become Batman and save all those people, so he shoots his own parents and runs away so that young Bruce grown up to be Batman
That's a stupid batman plot.
It was ok but it explained time travel way better than big budget movies
Thank you! I am so flattered.
In my rather long life, I have never heard anyone say "light shimmering off the water".
The brother that says that talks in a rather literary and stilted manner, I think.
However, the film has some very professional production qualities, and the acting is pretty good for an independent short film. I hope you keep up your efforts in film making.
Perihelion77 I agree...That did come off as rather peculiar.
Purple prose. Looks better on paper, but yeah, super unrealistic to say out loud.
Periherlion just cause you never heard in your rather long life, anyone say "light shimmering off the water" doesn't mean people don't say it or it doesn't realistically happen ....
I never heard of the word bloke, oi or wanker, shag or countless other words before I heard them for the first time, United Kingdomers or British people say a lot. Before I ever heard of certain words, does that make those words fake or otherwise untrue phrases/terms?
Strange, I used that exact term myself to describe the time my wife and I picknicked and napped by a Tarn in the UK's Lake District. There really was something captivating about the way the dwindling light was shimmering off the water.
@@inocybenapipes4949 I've never heard anyone say that term out loud.
Plot twist:
This sentence has no ending.
theres some bootstrap paradox going on and i dig it (like you dont know for sure whether them going back in time is what set off the events initially or its their parents being murderered)
On the one hand, in the future they say he had the page from the phone book, but on the other hand, how did it start then?
Nicely done. Good acting, pretty good dialogue/script, well done story and good pacing. Production wise I especially liked how realistic the hits and whacks sounded. So many movies over emphasize the thuds and cracks and it sounds fake but here they sound real, so well done.
Only criticisms are that it's a little bit hard to follow and a bit convoluted in the middle but I get that it's a complex story that has to be expressed in a very short time so it's understandable. The second criticism is the score/soundtrack which took me out of the action with the droning synths but I get it's a low budget production and John Williams probably wasn't available so that's also understandable. So, not dealbreaker criticisms at all.
One of the better time travel shorts I've seen. Good stuff. :)
We have time travel...photos, video recordings, dreams. The myriad of time travel Sci-fi's reveals a deep psychosis in our collective psyche.
Bravo, fantastic movie well done
so pretty, did you shoot this in 10bit 4k 422 or 12 bit 2k 444?
Thanks! I made this about five years ago so its hard to remember but I think it was 10-bit 422 (but I might be wrong though)
Excellent. Simply excellent.
That is very kind of you to say, thank you my friend.
Saw the ending coming a mile away.
Wait, so the chunkier guy ends up dead - if those events played out in the past...
Actually, screw it. My head hurts.
It makes sense. Earlier he talked about how the police found the killer's body as well as one unidentified body. He was the unidentified body. They couldn't identify him, because he wasn't supposed to exist in that time period as an adult. He's from 20-30 years into their future, so ofcourse he wouldn't show up in any of their systems. Only his child self is meant to exist in that time. So, his child self continues to live his life, with the tragedy that his adult self accidentally set in motion, until he reaches the point in his life where he finds the tunnel and takes his friend through it, which leads to his death. It's a paradoxical loop. His desire to save his parents is what ended up getting them killed. By travelling to his past as an adult in an attempt to kill the murderer before the murderer kills his parents, he accidentally ends up giving the murderer a reason to go and kill them. It's a loop. Neither of them can escape from it, because by the time they realize they're in the loop the events that caused it have already happened.
Thanks for your great expectation
@@Xylarxcode Thanks for the clear explanation because I didn't understand it either...
If time travel become possible, these philosophical paradoxes will never exist in reality.
And in fact we don't no whether we had Time Travelled in our past or not .So we may still travel to our past and meet our past version .
We cannot change our past 😅😅
That's why we say 'past is past'
I completely agree!
One of the best time loop movie I have ever seen
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Means in any parafox is moving continuesly...in same sequence? When end will come ?
The end will come when they make a different decision :)
😢 so sad. Beautiful movie.
Great story, very well done.
Why this short is not famous?
I ask myself that everyday 😊
Jacob Robert Desio keep the good work, it'll be famous someday 💓
If time travel was possible, then there are only two ways how it could work:
Either everything happens in the same universe, in which case whatever happened already has happened and thus cannot be changed. If you travel into the past to change it, you won't, as your time travel is the reason why the past is the way it always has been. This is what happens in this movie. Yet this unlikely to be the case as the bootstrap paradox remains, which can only be solved if time is an illusion of our perception.
The other alternative is that whenever you change the past, you create an alternative timeline you've never been part of. In that case there are two possibilities when you travel back: You travel back to your own timeline, in which case nothing has changed at all as you didn't change your own timeline. Or you travel forward in the alternative timeline, however, in that timeline you've never traveled back to change the past, so you won't take the place of the future-you, the future-you already exists when you arrive in the future and he has your place in that timeline. So you can see what your life would have been if events played out that way but you can't live that life unless you kill the future-you and take his place.
Your theory is very well thought out.
Question for you: If backwards time travel will ever be possible, and you travel back 1 month to meet yourself, shouldn't you already have the memory of meeting yourself 1 month ago?
@@samuelsmith25 If you did see yourself in the past, the answer is yes. But in the movie that never happened. Well, actually it did, when they were standing on the bridge but as children the bridge was too far away to recognize who was standing on that bridge and the children also did not pay attention to the people on the bridge. And in the house, it almost happened but only almost when he pulled back the attacker. Ye that is something he did remember as an adult: He remembered that somebody he could not see pulled back that attacker, only to later on find out, that he did it himself.
Can someone please explain this short to me? Not getting through to me for some reason...
It took me two watches there's alot going on but it does make sense. The dialogue holds the answers it seems
Alright before I finish this short film, I will say I'm 2:09 into it and ive already begun to cry. The quality is GORGEOUS, the narration is ASTOUNDING. Please win some rewards for this, alright I'm gonna finish the movie now wish me luck. 10/10
Dutch Aquaria, your comment is so kind, my eyes teared up when I read your comment. This was a thesis film for my film school and my teachers hated the narration so I am really to happy to hear you liked it. I hope the rest of the movie lived up to the beginning ;)
Thank you Dutch!
Low budget movie, executed brilliantly.
Thank you so much 😊
Jeff I've discovered a portal in time and space, let's go face a drug crazed killer with no plan, concept or strategy. Best of all, let's not go to whee we know he is going, let's go to where we think he might be. Oh and no guns, spears, pointy sticks or anything ok.
Just because you didn't see them talk about the plan doesn't mean there isn't one ;) I left out several scenes to keep this "short". Thanks for commenting!
Thats why its called a paradox, the tweaker (with fantastic shiny hair) only went to that address because the two idiots attacked him. Tweaker gets Jeffs wallet/id then goes to his fathers house (also Jeff Hunter) and goes on a murder spree.
Btw I wonder if Jeff got his name from the actor that starred as Captain Pike in the first ever Star Trek? He was in other films also, most notably The Searchers with John Wayne...
Tom Treacy very well said! I actually just made up the name (it’s connected to another one of my characters in another short film I made). That’s interesting trivia though! Thanks for commenting!
exactly what I was thinking.
Wait, so the people who try to save their parents ACTUALLY kill them?! That is such a plot twist!
Edit: I mean they indirectly as the person moved so the axe went straight to the mother
Aebomations, he got to see his parents again just liked he asked for ;)
ok :)
Loved it man, loved it. Keep em coming!
Wow!!
what is my second favourite thing? answer:time travel
what is my third favourite thing? answer: short films
so guess what my most favourite thing is. that's right chocolate
btw if the train at station A goes to station B and the train at station B goes to station A
how much does a elephant weigh
Here after Dark
I did not understand this at all. All I got is they attack the guy, don't finish the job-not sure why?-and the killer the gets his victims names and address's from someone shouting out 'Geoff'!! Doesn't make sense. Or does it?
Give it a second watch. A few people need it to catch the full story. But it definitely makes sense if you pay enough attention
I think cappycap is right, give it a second watch and if it doesn’t make sense I’ll answer your questions
is there part 2 for this? the movie start from jeff has fully recover and go back to his brother before he is found the tunnel
As many inconsistencies as time paradoxes. The worst is that it is clear that the first guy always comes back LATER than the entered the tunnel while then second guy, at the end, comes back BEFORE. Please be more consistent, especially when playing with time travel paradoxes.
Dude...make more...
I'm trying! Lol. We are writing a script currently for a really great short action film. Subscribe so you will get alerted when it's out! Thanks for the comment and support :)
A predestination paradox, indeed.
Wow!!!! Loved this. I am sending this to all of my friends. You deserve more subs❤️
Imshaal thank you so much! It is so nice of you to comment and share the film! Thank you for the support!!
Jacob Robert Desio np ❤️
I really liked it, though I had issue with some of the sounds during the climax of the film - which muddled the most important sequence of the film. Perhaps a soundscape over the top of it would have worked to clean up the disjointed feel it gave because there seemed to a mix of low impact sounds when there should have been louder thuds, whacks and struggling sounds. But it was interesting to watch. I think you should not have mentioned the "other" body because that gave it away. Primer avoided this kind of issue with plots (Shane did not give us all the clues) because there were some many permutations that it allowed the audience to imagine what was going on. By doing this Primer became a piecing-the puzzle-together film, which is what you got the audience doing way too early in my opinion. In yours I felt we were just watching it play out "as it happened" with no chance to change the future. Great cinematography, voice acting and music. My final opinion is the climax just needed a few more beats and more flow to not feel so panicked??? if that makes sense. It was like you didn't want to show to much, when then was the time to show it all. I'm going to subscribe as I'm looking forward to your next one.
Maybe they should of brought something more intimidating to a tweeker. like a pool noodle and a bar of soap.
This is genuinely my favorite comment I've ever had on this film.
And a wad of gum.and a paper clip? I am the tweaker Macgyver lol
Time and creation are not an evolution of events. Its a tapestry.
+D. Octor Poe, I completely agree. I hope you enjoyed the film :)
You really waited for bloom the fog?? or artificially made it?
Whatever, What a fantastic film. I think this cinema is time paradox genres standard. and now, I'm waiting for your next pieces.
+Jiwon Park thank you so much, I have never been so flattered! Thank you for your kind comments and for watching! Subscribe for more
+Jiwon Park, we actually didn't know there was going to be fog up there, we just got extremely lucky
Absolutely amazing
So he was the unidentified body found
Nice i want another time paradox!!
Fantastic
Well done
Thank u for the video 😊😊
Best wishes from India
I wish this was a full movie
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Time travel cannot change anything for it has already happened
We had already been back in time when the event happened so its always guaranteed
While we may of caused something that already happened in time travel, we can never change what has already happened
Alot of time travel clips or shows ignore this but I love that this one did not
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Surprises me how many people can't grasp what Lazy Loaf has pointed out.
Can someone explain what the twist was? At 11:08 one of the characters says his dad was Jeff Senior - the killer? How did he not know who his dad was before? What tipped him off after being attacked? At first I thought they were brothers so it was confusing at first.
That's why they talk about the killer got his dads name from the phone book
Jacob Robert Desio yeah I still don’t get it🤔🤷♀️
Watched this and 'Frankie' by Mike Pappa today and both are excellent short films. Possibly the best I have seen ever. Well certainly on the subject of time manipulation for sure.
Thanks Stagger Lee! I'll have to checkout Frankie, I don't think I've seen it yet
Very enjoyable
Thank you!
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Excellent film! I only wish it was longer! I wouldn't call the cinematography simple at all! I thought it was fantastic! Soundtrack either. But then, there really isn't a "soundtrack" It's more of a musical score, and so well done! Great Job Mr. Desio! Keep it up!
Thank you so much! I basically tried to cram a two hour film into fifteen minutes and I want to adapt it into a full length film soon. The majority of the music was an original composition from my friend and a very talented musician Aaron Honda. Thank you for the support and for the comment!
A full length film would be great! I'm looking forward to it!
Will someone help me out and explain why the killers ended up going to their house? I was kinda confused on that point. I really thought they’d end up making the killers want revenge and inadvertently drop a full name or a wallet with address. But the name thing confused me. Help?
Roger took Jeff's wallet and read his name"Jeff Hunter Jr." and when he left he went to a phone book but since Jeff was a child at the time he goes and finds Jeff Hunter (Senior) in the phonebook and went to that address unaware it's his father. Let me know if that clears it up! Thanks for commenting!
Classic. You can’t change the past. By trying to change it, you end up causing it.
Not quite the same thing.
This makes it clear the future selfs cause their parent's murder. So what happened in the first iteration? What caused the murderer to go there? Who was the unidentified burned body, if there was one? Why would there be fire at all? We don't see Jeff start the blaze. If he did set it, why doesn't Jeff just not set the blaze and drag his brother's body back so there is no unidentified body?
@@daveross7731 thats why its called a paradox
@@NotaPlagueDoctor300 that does not explain what happened in the first iteration.
@@daveross7731 theres no first iteration.. ever heard of the grandfather or the bootstrap paradox?
@@daveross7731 classic bootstrap paradox
Nicely done indeed. Would love to see more time travel stuff from you.
I appreciate that! I hope to do more time travel films in the future!
I believe that if time travel was real, that you save your dead parents in past that they will be dead in presence.The past just reasets its self since its just a recording.
Loved the cinematography ?👍 Which camera did you use ?
+White Cape Productions, thank you so much! We short it on a Canon C300 mark ii with Canon Cinema Prime Lenses - Canon partially sponsored the movie.
Jacob Robert Desio Kudos! 🤙🏼All the best for your future projects 👍
+White Cape Productions l, thank you so much, I wish you luck in your films as well!
Please someone explain to me.. I understood half.. Dint get the part why/how jeff's dad is the killer...please someone tell me..dying of curiosity here
Sorry for the late response!
His father was not the killer. Roger is the killer but he killed the parents because Jeff jr and Alan (the MCs) tried to kill him and when they failed Roger got Jeff's ID and saw his name so when he ran off he got a phone book and found Jeff Hunter but it was actually his parents (because they are in the past) so Roger attacked all of them. Let me know if you have any more questions!
Jacob Robert Desio thanks for explaining.. It is an amazing short film.. Loved everything about the film, how it was shot or edited,the acting etc. Brilliant work done there.. Please make more of such movies.. Xx
Jacob Robert Desio but how did he ID him?
I think I understand what you are saying. The movie is about letting go of the past and moving forward. They can always choose to walk away but they don’t and that is why they are trapped in a time loop. If they walk away they can survive but they don’t know that and they always let themselves succumb to the desire to change their pasts by trying to save their parents. I meant it to be a metaphor for how we humans tend to get caught up looking back on past events and letting our future get destroyed as it unfolds.
Now THAT was a good one.
Fortunately, we can’t do this.
I wanna save my dad from dying
I’m sorry about your father. Thank you for watching and commenting.