I played for 18 years this is the type of shit you see and understand as a player and not as a fan. If fans can see or have this type of insight into just how much energy/speed etc.. Goes into a single play there can be a greater appreciation of how hard baseball actually is
I've been a Yanks fan since '66. We KNOW how great the game is, how difficult it is. Real fans don't need WAR, & all the rest of the geek bullshit. Football doesn't worry about "force with which running back hits defender". Play the damn game!
Similar to some stats used in the Barclays Premier League, but it's mostly for private training purposes. It'd be cool to see more stats like these on tv, not just for the clubs.
I can't believe that cricket already does majority of this in the live game itself. Sure, there are finer details that they don't show, which this technology does, but I was really expecting something else altogether when I clicked on this video. In most cricket broadcasts, you get ball trajectory, bat speed, areas where a batter hit the ball, the angle at which the ball was bowled (i.e, pitched) where the ball bounced (since in cricket you bounce the ball once). The broadcasters can show all that for any major play that happens. What you don't get as of now, is the velocity of the batters or fielders when they run etc. This really surprises me because I've just gotten into baseball and it's so stat-oriented and yet I've seen baseball games and felt that the broadcast/visuals could've been more interactive for the viewer. So I was surprised that even though cricket is miles behind wrt stats, it gets this right and baseball doesn't. Really surprising! (And I'm not saying that one sport is better than the other, so don't get me wrong. Both sports are amazing in their own ways. Peace.)
@@shoukatsukai Cricket has had similar things, along with many other great broadcasting features (obviously tailored to suit the needs of that sport), since the late 90s/early 2000s. Only a couple of small features displayed here came into cricket post 2015. Again, I'm not comparing cricket to baseball (or vice versa). I'm not even saying one is better than the other. I follow and like both sports. But having watching enough games/matches of each sport, I'd have to say that as of now, overall, cricket does broadcasting way better than baseball, whereas baseball does stats and analysis way better than cricket.
@@smitmahajani7663 I think it might be because that baseball has this problem with old-heads not wanting to accept the place technology has with the sport. I'm not sure if cricket has this problem as well, but baseball has a problem with older fans refusing to care about the new stuff statcast does because they think it "ruins the game." That directly influences the broadcast not having this stuff. Ill agree though, American camera work is bad. Even Japan tracks baseballs better than we do on our own broadcast.
@@shoukatsukai Yeah I've read about these things. That's unfortunate. I think good broadcasting makes the game much more interesting for TV and digital audiences. Many MLB games look pretty bland, unless it's inherently a close game. Close games will always garner excitement regardless of the sport and the broadcasting or any other off-field stuff. But good broadcasting makes the average game of any sport, more visually appealing I feel. Good commentary makes it better as listening experience. I included that as part of the overall broadcasting point. In cricket, sometimes the commentary can be shit, but many times it's great and it's lead to some iconic moments being etched in the minds of people (I'm sure baseball has had such moments too ofc, I just haven't come across any in a live game that's all). Wrt MLB, I found that some games do have really good commentary, but otherwise the commentary too sounds pretty monotonous on average. Basically, I feel cricket can learn how to do analytics from baseball, and baseball can learn how to do broadcasting and review systems from cricket (I'm comparing these two because they're the most closely related to each other than to any other sport). Cricket's review/replay system is excellent. Watch Jomboy Media's TH-cam videos on cricket broadcasting and other cricket videos he's made (and also read his tweets on the same). You'll get my points in a much better way I feel. I didn't know about that Japan part. That's pretty cool!
@@smitmahajani7663 Great baseball commentary is very rare. The best called baseball series of all time was the 1995 ALDS, with the Seattle Mariners vs the New York Yankees. It was casted by 3 announcers that unfortunately no longer do active work (Brent Musberger and Gary Throne have retired, Dave Niehaus sadly passed away). Joe Buck did a decent job despite what many fans will say, the 2017 World Series was casted pretty well. There are also some gems of local broadcasters like Duane Kuiper, Jon Miler, and Gary Cohen, but yeah the field is not very good, and none of the newer commentators have grown on me yet
Hello, I'm a HS senior interested in pursuing a career in Statcast. Can someone help me better understand a specific education path one needs and a specific career one has at Statcast. Thank you.
The game has gotten too long, and I'm not saying this as a "hater". The thing is, Baseball was originally designed to be a fast-paced sport. It used to be that a nine-inning contest could be finished off in 2 - 2 1/2 hours. But the lengthening time between innings to allow for more promotions on-field and TV commercials, the increasing number of pitching changes which brings an inning to another five minute halt each time, not enforcing the rules against pitchers and batters stepping outside their boxes, and umpires calling inconsistent strike zones combined with both pitchers and batters who are doing everything except putting the ball into play has resulted in games now reaching nearly 3 1/2 to 4+ hours to get through nine innings. The changes Rob Manfred approved in the rules with seven-inning doubleheader games and starting extra innings with a runner already on second base will do NOTHING to solve this because they don't address at all the structural problems that have crept into Baseball that has slowed the game to the same kind of crawl Henry Chadwick back in the 19th century accused Cricket of being and citing that as the reason why Americans preferred Baseball instead.
Some of these stats are super eye opening for player evaluations (i.e. spin rate & many others), while other stats are irrelevant, but perhaps interesting to fans. So, having a handful of scientists in an organization is great, but there are downfalls to this.
I'm sorry you don't understand the intricacies of actually processing the data collected. The camera is nothing but a data collection, no science involved. It's about processing it and turning it into numbers. You leafs fans not only have a shitty team, you have shitty understanding of simple technology.
2:25 It's steroids lol You can't compare athletes of different chemical enhancement generations like apples to apples, you have to correct for the variables of the strength of the drugs they take at the time...
I thought the video was about the future of the game in terms of how its played on the field.......stats? really? ......most viewers just want to see a good game or have their team win, plain and simple.
BORING. In the next few years, there will not be a need for a manager. Just have a computer in the clubhouse or dugout along with a statistician. The romance of the game is gone. For example, people who were alive in the 1950s still debate who was better: Micky, Willie or the Duke.
and it's a great debate to have. With all the young talent coming up there might be similar debates in the coming years. Aaron Judge, Ronald Acuna, Juan Soto, Khris Davis, Kris Bryant, Javier Baez, Jose Altuve, Manny Machado. You can have that literal exact same debate with players today. Next, how does a debate about whose better equate to 'romance'?
I proclaim a deep hatred to these analytics. I declare a deep distaste for these techno-industrial stats! I will tell you a story of baseball - it takes place in my country (Russia). Many do not know that in Russia during the communist era we have baseball team. My uncle was selected to be baseball player (he was an athlete and we hastily put together a team in the 1980s to compete in the Olympics) because he was an athlete and the national team was starting from scratch. None of the players on the Soviet team could play baseball, and many had not heard of it until then! My uncle, like many, became enthralled by this game. To him, it was a pastoralist game - and what else can speak to the soul of a man born outside Yekaterinburg? Of course, my uncle, just as my family, has a deep agricultural tradition - it is in our blood. Baseball has become mythologized as a sport of the soil in America and this myth of baseball was brought to Russia through the Soviet team's study of American baseball history. Abner Doubleday is the legendary founder of the sport. Not only did he codify baseball, which he showed to men in the American Civil War, he did so in the rural village Cooperstown. Yes, this is a myth and in reality baseball was founded in urban New York City in the mid 1800s. But what moves the hearts of men? What beckons man forward so that he may give every last ounce of his being to a cause? It is the romanticized and the mythic past of all that exists! While baseball was developed in the cities it has a rural and pastoral soul simply because we have created such a myth for it. And now, that myth is in our hearts and we must defend that myth! And how false is this myth? Proto-baseball games has been popular in western new york villages since the 1820s! Regardless, baseball has a mythology of the pastoral and the rural! It has been one piece of the formula of American identity. To me, it has been a family affair where in our dacha my uncle taught the game to me. And when I went to visit family in Tyumen and beyond I brought the game to them and we played it on a football pitch. Why does baseball speak to me and us? Because of the ruralism within this game! What is the risk of the analytic movement? THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE IRRATIONAL ASPECTS OF THE GAME! The human aspect of simple men - human men who act so called "irrationally" (this is simply a slur by the "enlightenment" thinkers to defame men who think outside the zeitgeist of our decadent era of civilization). I DECRY THESE MACHINES! I DECRY THE ABOLITION OF THE IRRATIONAL, THE EMOTIONAL, THE SPIRITUAL IN BASEBALL! WE MUST SECURE THE CONTINUATION OF THE SPIRITUAL, THE MYTHIC, THE HUMAN ELEMENT! NEXT THEY WILL TELL US NO PLAYERS, ONLY SIMULATIONS! And, this is just yet another way the vast techno-industrial system has stripped humanity bear and turned us into standing reserve. May I refer you to the works of Heidegger on his essay "The Question Concerning Technology"? What does he say in this essay, my friends? Well he decries that the Greek notion of what is technology (techne) has been replaced by our modern form (gestell). Techne, the work of craftsmen for a human purpose but also to fulfill the craftsman's life purpose (Ie: a bridge across a river) does not enframe humans or nature as standing reserve. Gestell, however, does. Humans are now nothing more than standing reserve in this wretched techno-industrial system. Where there was beauty and spirits to be experienced now we see nature only in terms of it's resources, and we see ourselves only in terms of how we can be used as resources for the techno-industrial system (gestell --> human resources). What do we risk in baseball then? That the players are no longer craftsmen of the game, we see them less in the form of techne and more as gestell, or standing reserve. The result? The depersonalization of the game, the destruction of the beautiful myth that is pastoral baseball, the abolition of the spiritual aspects of the game in order to serve the insatiable appetite of the "machine" (by this I mean modern man's unquenchable drive to push forward innovation even if it turns man into a cog in a soulless machine. This drive is the Faustian nature of modern man wherein our large strides for perpetual motion, to outdo nature, lead to our undoing via genetic replacement through somatic gene editing or AI merging not to mention the dehumanization of us all through an increasingly impersonal and meaningless world where our only purpose is to buy into and support "progress" for the sake of a few Fausts who want to push the limits and who have the power to force us to do so. Mass PR firms do the rest by convincing us this is in our best interests.). MY POINT: Sabermetrics makes sense only from the business standpoint, of course. But as lovers of this game we must recognize this is the start of the total destruction of the human element of the game. Notice how the Dodgers played in the world series due to sabermetrics, their manager could have been replaced by a machine. Where is the irrational elements, the elements we as humans naturally love because we can relate? What will become of the pastoral myth of baseball when it has become technologised and rationalized to the point where events can be so simply predicted? WE MUST DEMAND THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE TECHNO-INDUSTRAL SYSTEM. ANALYTICS IS ONLY ONE SIGN OF THE PROBLEMS BROUGHT UPON THE WORLD BY THE FOOLISH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION!!!! WE MUST PRESERVE BASEBALL, THE GAME WE LOVE! I was actually telling a friend of mine who is a Professor at a University in Irkutsk about this. When I see baseball games, I see stats EVERYWHERE. This is the sad exsistence of the modern man: everywhere there is information but nowhere is their knowledge. I may hear that Player X hits .234 when it is 6th inning with 2 outs and the pitcher has thrown over 30 pitches in the game and there are runners on the corner. But I decry the fact I am told such stats so often. I AM NOT A COMPUTER! I AM NOT A MACHINE! I AM HUMAN MAN! I spit on these statistics! Well, he is an expert actually in this sort of thing, man's relationship to technics. He told me this is a great tragedy (which I agree). In every aspect of life where events become over studied so that there is relavent information on any one possibility - that aspect of life becomes less mythic to us and indeed becomes as cold and dead as ever. Perhaps not explicitly, as we eat these stats up with a rabid interest, but in the back of our minds the aspect of life becomes less interesting. Shall I direct your attention to the crisis of the secular world? I will not again go off track but many Islamic countries, despite recent hardships, have better rates of non-suicide than secular "rich" nations. I suggest this is because they still have not reached the point where man is standing reserve, which causes man to feel deep despair. When one neither denies (because he does not think it true) that he has become gestell nor actively fights against it he is left in the sidelines of this great spiritual war, causing him to seek "pleasure and happiness" which simply translates to hedonism. How can a man find happiness without a life goal if not only through short bursts of physical pleasure or times of "shocking the senses." Baseball fans. I beg you to see reason and call for the destruction of the ANALYTICAL ENSLAVEMENT of our beloved game. Oh I becoming sad just thinking about the death of pastoral, mythic, beautiful baseball and it's replacement with a gestell form of the game!
When stats are the best part of a sport, rather than other important things like the spectacle or display of athleticism, it doesn't reflect well on that sport.
Who gives a shit?! I'm a baseball fan because I just love the sport. I don't care for all this scientific crap. What happened to the days when you could just go out and play/enjoy the game?
When you become a billionaire team owner and spend hundreds of millions on player payroll alone, you come back and tell me why they don't just "go out and play".
You’re the problem with baseball fans. You’re old, you’re obsolete. Of course the players now love to go out and just play just as much as people love to go out and watch them play. It’s ALSO fun to get into the details and the bones and the viscera of the game. It helps enhance and help people appreciate even more how amazing this sport is and the athletes that play it. You ignoring it and calling it “scientific crap” makes your look like a dumb fuck yokel.
I played for 18 years this is the type of shit you see and understand as a player and not as a fan. If fans can see or have this type of insight into just how much energy/speed etc.. Goes into a single play there can be a greater appreciation of how hard baseball actually is
Well said.
As a fan why do I care about the velocity of a homerun? As long my team is hitting the home runs I'm good
+Michael Jackson
you ignant...
Shawn H
How? This is not going to help draw fans to the game
Michael Jackson like he said, players will respect this more
Imagine if one team had got a hold of this technology before any others, they would have gone crazy moneyball.
T L S Bang Bang
Definitely a big step in getting people to realize how great this game really is.
I've been a Yanks fan since '66. We KNOW how great the game is, how difficult it is. Real fans don't need WAR, & all the rest of the geek bullshit. Football doesn't worry about "force with which running back hits defender". Play the damn game!
@@dme1016 all sports are becoming more analytical. I guarantee your Yankees have plenty of "geeks" on their payroll you rube.
@@stevenewsom3269 They sjoukd post a "Yearly $$ spent to keep the big-assed 27 WS trophies shiny" stat. I'm aight with that one.
@@dme1016 if you got so much money, how come you cant win anymore?
@@stevenewsom3269 I'm not a player - I'm a fan. History repeats itself though. Gonna need more shiny polish, eventually.
Looked like a trailer. I want to see more in depth of this doc.
this is good vice right here
Similar to some stats used in the Barclays Premier League, but it's mostly for private training purposes. It'd be cool to see more stats like these on tv, not just for the clubs.
They also use all this technology to see what each player can work on
God I love Science and Baseball
This aged well... Sabermetrics destroyed the game.
Crazy technology !!
I can't believe that cricket already does majority of this in the live game itself. Sure, there are finer details that they don't show, which this technology does, but I was really expecting something else altogether when I clicked on this video. In most cricket broadcasts, you get ball trajectory, bat speed, areas where a batter hit the ball, the angle at which the ball was bowled (i.e, pitched) where the ball bounced (since in cricket you bounce the ball once). The broadcasters can show all that for any major play that happens. What you don't get as of now, is the velocity of the batters or fielders when they run etc.
This really surprises me because I've just gotten into baseball and it's so stat-oriented and yet I've seen baseball games and felt that the broadcast/visuals could've been more interactive for the viewer. So I was surprised that even though cricket is miles behind wrt stats, it gets this right and baseball doesn't. Really surprising!
(And I'm not saying that one sport is better than the other, so don't get me wrong. Both sports are amazing in their own ways. Peace.)
This video was made when statcast was new in 2015
@@shoukatsukai Cricket has had similar things, along with many other great broadcasting features (obviously tailored to suit the needs of that sport), since the late 90s/early 2000s. Only a couple of small features displayed here came into cricket post 2015.
Again, I'm not comparing cricket to baseball (or vice versa). I'm not even saying one is better than the other. I follow and like both sports. But having watching enough games/matches of each sport, I'd have to say that as of now, overall, cricket does broadcasting way better than baseball, whereas baseball does stats and analysis way better than cricket.
@@smitmahajani7663 I think it might be because that baseball has this problem with old-heads not wanting to accept the place technology has with the sport. I'm not sure if cricket has this problem as well, but baseball has a problem with older fans refusing to care about the new stuff statcast does because they think it "ruins the game." That directly influences the broadcast not having this stuff.
Ill agree though, American camera work is bad. Even Japan tracks baseballs better than we do on our own broadcast.
@@shoukatsukai Yeah I've read about these things. That's unfortunate. I think good broadcasting makes the game much more interesting for TV and digital audiences. Many MLB games look pretty bland, unless it's inherently a close game. Close games will always garner excitement regardless of the sport and the broadcasting or any other off-field stuff. But good broadcasting makes the average game of any sport, more visually appealing I feel. Good commentary makes it better as listening experience. I included that as part of the overall broadcasting point. In cricket, sometimes the commentary can be shit, but many times it's great and it's lead to some iconic moments being etched in the minds of people (I'm sure baseball has had such moments too ofc, I just haven't come across any in a live game that's all). Wrt MLB, I found that some games do have really good commentary, but otherwise the commentary too sounds pretty monotonous on average. Basically, I feel cricket can learn how to do analytics from baseball, and baseball can learn how to do broadcasting and review systems from cricket (I'm comparing these two because they're the most closely related to each other than to any other sport).
Cricket's review/replay system is excellent. Watch Jomboy Media's TH-cam videos on cricket broadcasting and other cricket videos he's made (and also read his tweets on the same). You'll get my points in a much better way I feel.
I didn't know about that Japan part. That's pretty cool!
@@smitmahajani7663 Great baseball commentary is very rare. The best called baseball series of all time was the 1995 ALDS, with the Seattle Mariners vs the New York Yankees. It was casted by 3 announcers that unfortunately no longer do active work (Brent Musberger and Gary Throne have retired, Dave Niehaus sadly passed away). Joe Buck did a decent job despite what many fans will say, the 2017 World Series was casted pretty well. There are also some gems of local broadcasters like Duane Kuiper, Jon Miler, and Gary Cohen, but yeah the field is not very good, and none of the newer commentators have grown on me yet
so great!
Good shit.
This is so cool
Song at the end?
could use this clip as an ad!
Hello, I'm a HS senior interested in pursuing a career in Statcast. Can someone help me better understand a specific education path one needs and a specific career one has at Statcast. Thank you.
Probably programming knowledge, specifically with organizing and setting up databases.
technology is not going anywhere but up.
vice sports could you please do a video on hurling and Gaelic football, they're Irish sports and some of the oldest in the world
makes the game more fun!
I wanna do this
Soooo when will A.I. be replacing Umps calling balls and strikes?
How much did stat cast pay for the advertisement?
I guess it’s good. I’m tired of seeing players getting big contract and not showing up.
Jackie!
should do a video on disc golf
This shit is tight
It’s the Greatest Game of them all. But can it speed up the game. For all those haters that complain it’s to long.
The game has gotten too long, and I'm not saying this as a "hater". The thing is, Baseball was originally designed to be a fast-paced sport. It used to be that a nine-inning contest could be finished off in 2 - 2 1/2 hours. But the lengthening time between innings to allow for more promotions on-field and TV commercials, the increasing number of pitching changes which brings an inning to another five minute halt each time, not enforcing the rules against pitchers and batters stepping outside their boxes, and umpires calling inconsistent strike zones combined with both pitchers and batters who are doing everything except putting the ball into play has resulted in games now reaching nearly 3 1/2 to 4+ hours to get through nine innings. The changes Rob Manfred approved in the rules with seven-inning doubleheader games and starting extra innings with a runner already on second base will do NOTHING to solve this because they don't address at all the structural problems that have crept into Baseball that has slowed the game to the same kind of crawl Henry Chadwick back in the 19th century accused Cricket of being and citing that as the reason why Americans preferred Baseball instead.
I bet they're having tons of fun with Aaron Judge this year lol
Do we really need to show every stat I think it great for scouting but I feel like showing every stat is like giving away a magicians trick
Baseball: an intellectual sport, for the chosen ones. I enjoy it best with my Mountain Dew
Demystifying life
this is cool!
Some of these stats are super eye opening for player evaluations (i.e. spin rate & many others), while other stats are irrelevant, but perhaps interesting to fans. So, having a handful of scientists in an organization is great, but there are downfalls to this.
No Tom Verducci, the next Giancarlos Stanton is already here. His name is Aaron Judge
He's better
No
Who is the next John Carlos Stanton? This guy is asking the next version of a player that doesn't even exist yet. True revolutionary
"Advanced Science equipment mumbo jumbo" = Optical camera running at 30fps -_-
I'm sorry you don't understand the intricacies of actually processing the data collected. The camera is nothing but a data collection, no science involved. It's about processing it and turning it into numbers. You leafs fans not only have a shitty team, you have shitty understanding of simple technology.
Baseball, a sport so boring you need 22nd century technology to enjoy
dope
OK,... So they spelled Cy Young.. Sy. So much for their expertise
Fuck analytics. See ball, hit ball, catch ball. Fuck overshifts. Play ball, damnit!
all this for entertainment lol
2:25 It's steroids lol
You can't compare athletes of different chemical enhancement generations like apples to apples, you have to correct for the variables of the strength of the drugs they take at the time...
Stfu
Joshua The Dude
Oh, right away, sir!
Adderall galore
I thought the video was about the future of the game in terms of how its played on the field.......stats? really? ......most viewers just want to see a good game or have their team win, plain and simple.
That’s not the point they’re making.
Money ball is killing baseball
Stat rats
This kills the game. Soon they will want to remove those "dumb" umpires with this STATSCAST nonsense... so humans lose again.
Adapt or die
Forget the scorecard, without a calculator/computer, you can't tell the players' play...
I believe those kids never play sandlot ball...they ruined the game biggly
BORING. In the next few years, there will not be a need for a manager. Just have a computer in the clubhouse or dugout along with a statistician. The romance of the game is gone. For example, people who were alive in the 1950s still debate who was better: Micky, Willie or the Duke.
and it's a great debate to have. With all the young talent coming up there might be similar debates in the coming years. Aaron Judge, Ronald Acuna, Juan Soto, Khris Davis, Kris Bryant, Javier Baez, Jose Altuve, Manny Machado.
You can have that literal exact same debate with players today. Next, how does a debate about whose better equate to 'romance'?
I proclaim a deep hatred to these analytics. I declare a deep distaste for these techno-industrial stats! I will tell you a story of baseball - it takes place in my country (Russia). Many do not know that in Russia during the communist era we have baseball team. My uncle was selected to be baseball player (he was an athlete and we hastily put together a team in the 1980s to compete in the Olympics) because he was an athlete and the national team was starting from scratch. None of the players on the Soviet team could play baseball, and many had not heard of it until then! My uncle, like many, became enthralled by this game. To him, it was a pastoralist game - and what else can speak to the soul of a man born outside Yekaterinburg? Of course, my uncle, just as my family, has a deep agricultural tradition - it is in our blood. Baseball has become mythologized as a sport of the soil in America and this myth of baseball was brought to Russia through the Soviet team's study of American baseball history. Abner Doubleday is the legendary founder of the sport. Not only did he codify baseball, which he showed to men in the American Civil War, he did so in the rural village Cooperstown. Yes, this is a myth and in reality baseball was founded in urban New York City in the mid 1800s. But what moves the hearts of men? What beckons man forward so that he may give every last ounce of his being to a cause? It is the romanticized and the mythic past of all that exists! While baseball was developed in the cities it has a rural and pastoral soul simply because we have created such a myth for it. And now, that myth is in our hearts and we must defend that myth! And how false is this myth? Proto-baseball games has been popular in western new york villages since the 1820s! Regardless, baseball has a mythology of the pastoral and the rural! It has been one piece of the formula of American identity. To me, it has been a family affair where in our dacha my uncle taught the game to me. And when I went to visit family in Tyumen and beyond I brought the game to them and we played it on a football pitch. Why does baseball speak to me and us? Because of the ruralism within this game! What is the risk of the analytic movement? THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE IRRATIONAL ASPECTS OF THE GAME! The human aspect of simple men - human men who act so called "irrationally" (this is simply a slur by the "enlightenment" thinkers to defame men who think outside the zeitgeist of our decadent era of civilization). I DECRY THESE MACHINES! I DECRY THE ABOLITION OF THE IRRATIONAL, THE EMOTIONAL, THE SPIRITUAL IN BASEBALL! WE MUST SECURE THE CONTINUATION OF THE SPIRITUAL, THE MYTHIC, THE HUMAN ELEMENT! NEXT THEY WILL TELL US NO PLAYERS, ONLY SIMULATIONS! And, this is just yet another way the vast techno-industrial system has stripped humanity bear and turned us into standing reserve. May I refer you to the works of Heidegger on his essay "The Question Concerning Technology"? What does he say in this essay, my friends? Well he decries that the Greek notion of what is technology (techne) has been replaced by our modern form (gestell). Techne, the work of craftsmen for a human purpose but also to fulfill the craftsman's life purpose (Ie: a bridge across a river) does not enframe humans or nature as standing reserve. Gestell, however, does. Humans are now nothing more than standing reserve in this wretched techno-industrial system. Where there was beauty and spirits to be experienced now we see nature only in terms of it's resources, and we see ourselves only in terms of how we can be used as resources for the techno-industrial system (gestell --> human resources). What do we risk in baseball then? That the players are no longer craftsmen of the game, we see them less in the form of techne and more as gestell, or standing reserve. The result? The depersonalization of the game, the destruction of the beautiful myth that is pastoral baseball, the abolition of the spiritual aspects of the game in order to serve the insatiable appetite of the "machine" (by this I mean modern man's unquenchable drive to push forward innovation even if it turns man into a cog in a soulless machine. This drive is the Faustian nature of modern man wherein our large strides for perpetual motion, to outdo nature, lead to our undoing via genetic replacement through somatic gene editing or AI merging not to mention the dehumanization of us all through an increasingly impersonal and meaningless world where our only purpose is to buy into and support "progress" for the sake of a few Fausts who want to push the limits and who have the power to force us to do so. Mass PR firms do the rest by convincing us this is in our best interests.). MY POINT: Sabermetrics makes sense only from the business standpoint, of course. But as lovers of this game we must recognize this is the start of the total destruction of the human element of the game. Notice how the Dodgers played in the world series due to sabermetrics, their manager could have been replaced by a machine. Where is the irrational elements, the elements we as humans naturally love because we can relate? What will become of the pastoral myth of baseball when it has become technologised and rationalized to the point where events can be so simply predicted? WE MUST DEMAND THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE TECHNO-INDUSTRAL SYSTEM. ANALYTICS IS ONLY ONE SIGN OF THE PROBLEMS BROUGHT UPON THE WORLD BY THE FOOLISH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION!!!! WE MUST PRESERVE BASEBALL, THE GAME WE LOVE!
I was actually telling a friend of mine who is a Professor at a University in Irkutsk about this. When I see baseball games, I see stats EVERYWHERE. This is the sad exsistence of the modern man: everywhere there is information but nowhere is their knowledge. I may hear that Player X hits .234 when it is 6th inning with 2 outs and the pitcher has thrown over 30 pitches in the game and there are runners on the corner. But I decry the fact I am told such stats so often. I AM NOT A COMPUTER! I AM NOT A MACHINE! I AM HUMAN MAN! I spit on these statistics! Well, he is an expert actually in this sort of thing, man's relationship to technics. He told me this is a great tragedy (which I agree). In every aspect of life where events become over studied so that there is relavent information on any one possibility - that aspect of life becomes less mythic to us and indeed becomes as cold and dead as ever. Perhaps not explicitly, as we eat these stats up with a rabid interest, but in the back of our minds the aspect of life becomes less interesting. Shall I direct your attention to the crisis of the secular world? I will not again go off track but many Islamic countries, despite recent hardships, have better rates of non-suicide than secular "rich" nations. I suggest this is because they still have not reached the point where man is standing reserve, which causes man to feel deep despair. When one neither denies (because he does not think it true) that he has become gestell nor actively fights against it he is left in the sidelines of this great spiritual war, causing him to seek "pleasure and happiness" which simply translates to hedonism. How can a man find happiness without a life goal if not only through short bursts of physical pleasure or times of "shocking the senses."
Baseball fans. I beg you to see reason and call for the destruction of the ANALYTICAL ENSLAVEMENT of our beloved game. Oh I becoming sad just thinking about the death of pastoral, mythic, beautiful baseball and it's replacement with a gestell form of the game!
@@DarkKnightofHeaven My friend, I'm sorry, but he is correct.
First Name Last Name Dude I think that I understand what you are saying but condense the message next time
It's a glorified activity ffs. (albeit hard), it's not a sport.
When stats are the best part of a sport, rather than other important things like the spectacle or display of athleticism, it doesn't reflect well on that sport.
Baseball is a sport of numbers ..
kvmftOriginal03 the stats just add to the spectacle. The stats help show the skill the sport takes.
Go watch cricket you limey
Go watch cricket you limey
kvmftOriginal03 your an idiot
I think this will have a bad influence on the game, they are not machines, the robots are coming!
And let the abuse of players continue
Who gives a shit?! I'm a baseball fan because I just love the sport. I don't care for all this scientific crap. What happened to the days when you could just go out and play/enjoy the game?
When you become a billionaire team owner and spend hundreds of millions on player payroll alone, you come back and tell me why they don't just "go out and play".
You’re the problem with baseball fans. You’re old, you’re obsolete. Of course the players now love to go out and just play just as much as people love to go out and watch them play. It’s ALSO fun to get into the details and the bones and the viscera of the game. It helps enhance and help people appreciate even more how amazing this sport is and the athletes that play it. You ignoring it and calling it “scientific crap” makes your look like a dumb fuck yokel.
This makes me love baseball even more, there’s so much going on during every single play
Yawn
Still a boring game
it is something that only people with taste like. If you are an unintelligent person, you will never like baseball and you will always find it boring.
soccer Best
And let the abuse of players continue