The ALT PROBLEM in ONCE HUMAN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- The ALT race is upon us.
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It sounds like you’re part of this problem 😂
Can't beat it, join it, why should we play at a disadvantage, until they make a solution, that's on the dev. Don't get me wrong. I fully support they need to come out with something to limit to one account/one character. I don't like this multiple account either but I also don't like to lose or fall behind. So until then, if I can't beat it, I'll join it and hopefully rh problem become so big they have to fix it
the fun thing big guilds and streamers are doing is cycling people from a main warband to an alt warband, donating in the alt warband, and then going back to the main warband. and having an alt warband that can bid on the main warbands territory to stop people from attacking it.
ban all alt accounts.
yes, thank you. this is a stupid mechanic. you get it.
That’s so soft
@@TimayyThese guys were probably roofcamping on rust before they found this game 😂
Yea true this is sad, They tryed to combat it by banning warband hoppers but they can alwayse just make a new alt.
Pretty sure you cant donate to another warband once u donated to ur own warband that week. Unless im tripping how defuq do u rotate to another warband to donate when there is a limit?
One of the problems, in my opinion, of single-only players playing MMORPGs. The truth is an MMORPGs needs both single players and those who actually are willing to play with others and form a community. Hopefully the developers/publisher improve upon the game for the betterment of all player types.
I think it is a gameplay issue in general. Game do not require anything from you to play in a group. The mobs and bosses are just too easy. There is no actual group events or dungeons that you can not do solo besides prime wars in pve and these pvp specific events (warband fights or smthng). Ofc people will do everything on their own, why would you rely on anyone?
so let me get this straight. You built an alt account because you couldnt get water? You literally just press G and walk away and you can have all the water you want lol.
The point of the game is to have everything fully automated and supplied when you are offline, so by the time you get back online, you have everything prepared for your gaming session and you don't need to do all these boring routines besides collecting and replanting stuff. That's the point. You can go and press G all day long, not my business, but I find this less efficient, and the point of the game is to optimize everything to your benefit.
This looks like a miserable experience, idk why people even play pvp just to have to sweatfarm.
saltfarm..
It's the same as pve, but with PvP, idk why the casual idiots are so butthurt about people choosing a PvP server.
@@surrounndedbyClowns The regular casuals are very happy with tryhards PvPers going to PvP servers, far away from us. It's a win-win.
@@ddritter yet they can't stop whining
@@surrounndedbyClowns not the regular players. We are enjoying the game.
Yeah this man basically just made a video to say he is a freak
Waaaaahhhh, everyone is doing the same thing I am and it shouldn't be allowed!!!
They can't ban alt accounts. Once you start doing so, there will always be a way around it.
Truth is, having alts isn't negatively effecting the game. You can choose to make an alt to passive farm(I personally have an oil alt took me about 2 and a half hours to get to level 35 to check meme specs) and build the base. And I didnt really even need to do that, I coulda just left it at level 1 and brought mats on my main. But the same amount of oil I make passively through the day, I could get by making a car trunk oil run. That's really not gon making or breaking a game. Ontop of it dirty water, you can literally teleport, get in the water press G, and afk for 5-6 minutes, teleport back to your base, or ya'know make a few rain catchers in a non polluted spot? If your building in a polluted spot you should always build half way into it and half way out. Ontop of it there's a few polluted, oil spots you could also build at, and get acid and oil at the same time. Plus all these extra resources aren't really helping in PvP. It'd be different if you had a bot playing an alt account, while you played legit. But that'd be a bot problem. Def making a big fuss out of nothing. And they already said they are gonna add a "invite friend to your server" In the end this game is a solo game with multiplayer aspects. Ontop of it facility spec wise you don't even need an alt, you can just ask someone to build some things for you in your base, like most non-alt players.
server slots are closed. people cant get guild members on because the server is overrun with alts. its not even that active.
I have 2 accounts mostly because I like leveling up characters. It can honestly be pretty fun to manage both the bases and you can make a mega building out of the 2 bases.
Bro, it sounds like you just don't have any friends. 😂😅
the thing is, there are specialties for acid/oil farming, combine with another specialties that you won't be needing an alt account, i personally have sulfur chemist where i can synthesize sulfure and energy link for acid, and also i have the rare crystal specialty if i need a boost for energy link, so those 2 specialties coexist that i won't be needing alts.
but that being said, considering that specialties are random and will reset per season, then alt account is the way if you're just unlucky.
i just hope that they make the truck's territory a lot better and we won't be needing alt accounts just to oil/acid farm.. currently you can't build a water pump to it, so it would make sense if we can since we can build a car and a truck at the same time
how are they going to stop people from making alt accounts ?? only way is to charge for the game
crazy idea: have some friends and help each other.. I mean.. wtf did I just watch? lmao
i got 2 friends i do PVE with. i still have 3 charecters in that server. thats my 3 their 4, its so fun making massive bases and using alts to afk farm oil, acid, crops, ext
I honestly dont mind it as it allows the try-hards to 'try-hard' and make the cost of mats/resources cheaper for the more casual player BUT it affecting people not being able to join servers with their friends or even some massive groups(there are a few) just dominating a server with alt accounts and creating 'dead' servers is the big problem i see and needs to be changed asap.
edit: forgot to add this but its good to see people publicly talk about the issue, game is good but needs to tweak a few things just dont want another New World.
You can always manage to join the server with your friends if you are not slacking and thinking that the game will be waiting when you are ready. You have clear sign-up time to do so. Just signup together, not like "Oh, I have so many things to do in my life, so now I gonna complain about me not getting to server with my friends because of that..." You are either locked in or stay behind, in game, in life, doesn't matter. Do what you are interested in, but don't complain then.
Then, you have spoken about the group of people with alts dominating the server. Here is my case. On a phase shift from 1 to 2 you get blackfell oilfield opened. I went there in 10 minutes after the phase shifts and what I saw amazed me: 20-30 people were already there claiming the most beneficial spots around and I realized that I am just late! - That is an experience for my next server sign up, I won't fuck up, but this is not an issue in any way.
@@FXtrtzor you probably don’t understand but back at the start of the game there were no signups, servers were just created and being locked just as fast, this caused a lot of problems (look when it was posted). There were no sign ups or invite codes, a lot of QOL changes were made to the game since then but don’t be a dumbass and talk about stuff you clearly have no clue about. This is about people locking servers in a matter of hrs during launch and if they didn’t get all their alts+friends in the same server they would abandon the server creating ghost servers. Looks like you play pve servers so you won’t understand how this affects pvp.
@@FXtrtzor you must be a bit slow in the head look when this was made, the comment and the video. we are talking about game launch and how servers were getting locked almost instantly. there was no server sign ups, friend invite codes it was you login join a server and if your friends were a little bit late (im saying 1-2 hrs the server would be locked since the game was so popular back then, please use 1% of your brain next time and read what i said. You are about 2months too late to this discussion.Also you are on a pve server so number of players dont really matter but in a pvp server being on a dead realm feels like shit since only content there was(back then) was player interaction gameplay. World of advice stop trying to insert yourself in topics you have 0 clue about in game and in life.
@@FXtrtzor Bro you seem to have 0 clue on what we even discussed or what this topic was about. This comment was for game LAUNCH, there was no sign-up, no invite codes. Servers were getting locked in a matter of hours, Tons of dead servers because everyone was hoping servers.Also if you dont know why player population on a server is healthy especially for pvp servers please be quite. In game, in life, doesn't matter please educate yourself before trying to insert yourself in topics you are are lacking any knowledge in.
I like the fact you complaine about it but still abuse the system, Where is the logic here ?, Im on a pvp server and i dont have an alt account, Be in a prober warband/hive that work togeather and you wont need this at all, Only headache this is providing is a constant tought of having to logg and alt ore half your base and production will be gone, Clearly he dident play D2 back in the day, Why dont you just have 10 accounts and make it 10 plots big cus its sooo op right ?
What do you recommend for the alt strat? I’m at Blackfell oil field where I can pump oil and acid…
I’m new, level 40, alt level 5. My warband is full of grinders so I’m trying to get good gear etc. so I can do activities with them.
Do I get alt to level 30 and put the oil/acid farm on it, just out all of the farming stuff on it? Idk what to split between them
its a problem i dont recommend it. on stream the boys have a lot of ideas, and in the new patch video i talk about why faming is a good idea.
Delete alt and play the game as it should be. Thats what I suggest. Everything is super easy and fast to get.
You don't need to do this if you are no lifingyou need to do this. this is the first I heard of this
They wont change this. It significantly inflates real player numbers which is likely closer to 50k on steam
i think you are just addicted bro xd
The problem is there isn't enough polluted oil spots
gyaaatttt that backround
Just curious but how would you block this on a FTP game? IP Banning? That would be an issue for some folks, myself included as my daughter plays with me and we are on the same network...you could restrict what a user can do at someone else's base but that creates a big issue for myself and others as it seriously complicates genuine communal play.
I would do an alt account just for replay value for other ways to play the game as the game gets harder and slows down on my main like it seems to be doing now for me. I'm not sure if i would even play the pvp servers to begin with.
A simple solution would be to just let us have up to 2 or 3 territories like you can in Palworld.. maybe cut down on the height and plot size limit a bit so builds don't get out of hand. Moving your whole base from place to place is a cool feature, but absolutely cumbersome and restrictive imo.
Eve Online was ruined by multiboxxers. There are entire wars being fought with hundreds of ships on both sides that are just two players.
Why alt account on a game that resets every 6 weeks. Such a waste of time. Eve is constant. Even in games like wow etc all have multi as no reset
@@xenoclix No idea, I feel like I make more energy than one one character and four hours than this guy does on two full time alts
lol, first, you dont. and second, i'm saying we should get rid of alts.
take your time bubba
I don't have alts, but I have friends. We form a self sustaining group and want for nothing in terms of resources. It makes bartering pointless. I tried to offer my service to build maxed out generators and when I am asked what do I want in return, I cannot answer because I lack nothing. I feel like it does take out an aspect of community barter in the game. Very soon I can see this game just becomes a cycle of rush for resource, wealth accumulation and clear content.
Even if it's closed you can use one of your invites to get an alt onto the same server.
Nice, thanks for teaching me what I'm missing out on.😂😂
I know your problem your character needs pants.
hesa trap
they can turn off those privileges or make it where the character has to be online to share
i like this
Good thing I have a laptop
they should ban alt accounts honestly
but what level do you need to level the ALT up to?
Don't worry after the first wipe the game will die because starry studios are being vague about the details of things in the wipes even though they gave some basic explanation
I really don't like the seasonal model, you can't even transfer all your deviations that you spent hours finding them
So did you delete your alt account? or are you still using it?
Tell me you have too much time and addicted without telling me you have too much time and addicted.
I dont have enough time to do any of that.
Trap video ...
Look man I'm going to be honest you're being way to harsh on this game the alt account's does not affect normal play dude keep in mind to even have an alt account you have to go through the same hassle of leveling, tasks all that and blueprints / gear / etc doesn't go on your account so it's kinda more of a headache than benefit playing twice and grinding by the time someone gets their alt level to 50 I'm going to be the strongest player on the server by the time u get your alt to level 50.
Huge benefits in pvp is more building and more donation .
@@DarkRa i can make 50 alts and a fake warband for those alts and have more funds thenu can imagine so when the last war hits ill block everything witha fake wb its a very broken system
@@zzyodazz you can make a new character and move it to same new season with your main
Banning alts in my opinion is definitely a lazy way to do it. This company has the power to remove server cap for their game and they have our money to make it happen.
What do you guys think about this?
I see no issue with this. You still need to do some work to make your alt work, unless you just want to extend your base and that's it. To make it functional you need to spend 2x more time than others and that is your benefit, basically. And, what's not fun about it? The point is to be self-sufficient, and this is hella fun. Have you seen these trading jeeps in Blackfell? I am not going there anymore, this is a mess this is not fun. Make an actual Auction house for all the trading, then we can speak about the alts issue. The only issue I see when people do it like you, just 4 stack the platforms and never be creative. I can't get everything in one place, as you have said, so I make a tiny base somewhere else in sake of getting freaking water for my main base, or fuel, or anything that is lacking in my main vicinity. This is a part of experience and playing the game, I'd say. You still play the game on both account and that is not an abuse but a benefit of spending MORE time than others.
Any game that has crafting restrictions or limitations and randomized game affecting traits is ripe for alts. PVE needs acid, water, food and crops as much and PVP does, don't fool yourself.
alts joining and making warbands is cancer u can make an alt warband and farm warband funds to block/outbid everyone
i got 2 friends i do PVE with. i still have 3 charecters in that server. thats my 3 their 4, its so fun making massive bases and using alts to afk farm oil, acid, crops, ext
Guys like you destroying the game. And the title is you omg. Serves are full and we can't play with our friends because all this pff
the reason if we have a limit on what we can do look at rust players we go all out cant do that on here
What determines how much polluted water or dirty water you get from a pump? I built in a polluted zone, I get some polluted water, but I now have 4 water storages full of purified water and cant get rid of it xD
You can build pumps on land in polluted zones. Pumps far enough on land will only get polluted water, no dirty water.
@@WilliamRigbyHall ah nice, thanks! :)
I have a beautfiul base. But i cant make acid or pump oil or get salt bc im not in those locs. Ill probably make a alt to get some..
lol just trade for them ya yahoo
Same lol but you can buy/trade from the vending machine tho
This game is not for people who have an actual daily job and don't want to spend every minute of their off time on. Sweaty as hell. Who in their right mind has the time to level up two or more accounts just to have everything you need..... I'll tell you, people who have no actual jobs and no life.
Thanks for giving me ideas 🫡
Any idea how to prevent such stuff?
I can't rn 😂 I have a job 85 hrs every 2 weeks and play on a PVP server take a break and come back and boom your good acid farm is great with 9 pumps it's not meant to be played like this and are ruining it for other players that actually want to play together
this is nonsense. you can and will make 1000 alts on a new server. it's just gonna be you, pal. in a couple of weeks i'll make a video on your solo server. get ready, bb, we're in this together now. except the hard part, that's your job.
@@unclemusclez nope
Never know, they may do " single account per IP "...
hopefully something
so me and my wife should not be able to play at the same time? haha
but i do agree this is a problem, never heard or seen someone do this , on my server i dont even think anyone lives this close to eachother , but i also play PVE
@@cptadorable5654 I mean, consider this guy really dont have a clue what hes talking about. The only time its OP is when you hit all the good perks across multiple accounts. So you can get triple buffed foundries and cook stations, sulfer chemist and Super refineries... all the good stuff and then work all that yourself. but like, thats a lot of work...
900 acid a day is slow af. I actually dont know anyone pulling that much though, because the ratios and process time are very slow. I calculated like 42 per hour, on a good setup. Oh, i guess tahts like 840 a day! Two accounts could do 1600! Meanwhile, i make 4000 acid every 8 hours.
alts are the bane of all mmos, if you don't like it don't do it, you don't have to do it especially if you say you don't like it. and yes it should be banned or at least against tos or not posible at all
Womp Womp
No one is making an alt account unless you are a loser who doesn't leave your room. This is a losers problem anyone who is casual doesn't care about this so it won't ever be fixed 😂😂
Alts is always lame on every single game.. You should've seen Lost Ark.. or more like the "Alt game"
Playing EVE 15 + years
i'm sorry to hear that
this is abit to try hardy imo
Why are you saying second account like that
u need a hive with some real friends on it sir.
damn this is so accurate, the moment 1 server opens it will be flooded, then a weeks pass by it will be dead. lmao
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most ppl have lives and cant manage 3 accounts
the thing is you dont need to
you just give permission to the main account to use the alt's base like a owner
boom you have 2 bases lol
do 1 for acid
do 1 for oil
and see how the server population goes to dust
@@2salzig2spucknapp How do you give permission tho? I am looking for this for so long, my friend can't use my base even we are in the same hive.
@@kpg10 press u go friends click of show more there u set it its rly hidden
@@2salzig2spucknapp I get acid and oil on one account. Water pumps in ground in polluted area. I get crude oil and acid. the only thing I don't get from it is purified water, so I teleport to a cave, collect thousands afk, put through a purifier back at base, wake up to thousands.
If it isn't fun for you, just don't do it and stop whining about it!
Man, I just want to bring my friends into my server to play with me.
Regardless if the server is full they can still join you
elaborate
i have 3 alts in 1 PVE server. yeah 3 not just 2 so GFC
You make no sense what so ever
noob on a mmo whinning xD. Alts is always been a thing like since forever xD
Crazy thing, maybe just play the game as intended and not be a sweat and the game is less stressful, imagine that. Sorry but all i heard this whole time is someone who is literally trying to compete with a hive of players, SOLO, and complaining about what u had to do to be "competitive" not to mention just press p to turn the shit off if u are wanting to interact with people without getting shot in the face. And u literally brought ptsd from other pvp games into this 1, multi boxxing has ALWAYS been taboo in mmo's where pvp is involved, and guess what, ur part of the problem, as is all the streamers u r literally copying.
Even in pve playing solo i feel like i need another account because memetics are limited and can't spread out enough. Or maybe i just need to spec and respec as needed
Dont do it then haha
Bro i wasnt doing dual acconts now i dont want to play anymore lol this is a huge exploit similar to what happened in new world with item duping. I think im done with this game.
Cringe
Is there a point here or is this just some random rant that has no point? I can't sense any clear point here. Maybe got off the sugar overload before making a video?
I have 2 one for me and one i made and grinded for my gf
Boi doesn't have friends that share stuff... Also why are you even making this video making it blow up and telling more people about this. You are now an issue since you are literally telling people what to do xD
Can easily tell you that we are the number 1 guild without spawn killing, without bugs and exploits xD
maybe rewatch the video.
@@unclemusclez it's not about rewatching the video, all you could have done is not publish this to the public. And rather just give it straight to the devs... Find a way to contact them. Instead you ramble about it and publish a public video which just makes the situation worse since now more and more will know about this...
Bait vídeo with a bad explain and understanding about the game
Delete this video so we can keep doing it 😂 very little people know about this
lol
people definitely know that you can make multiple accounts for free on a free to play game, and its a problem, getting FOMO due to only playing on your main is brutal
This is will only help increasing the player count
Smart game design I guess @@Lauriieton