I bought the cheap grow lights off Amazon. I've been looking into lighting the darker areas of my apartment so I could spread my plants out. What should I look for when purchasing non plant lights? I'm searching shop lights now but want to make sure I'm getting the correct lighting :)
Lighting professional here, you are completely correct. There is one thing, though that I would like to add for the safety of your viewers. LED does emit UV light. in most cases it’s not enough for them to have to state it on the packaging that it does. Where are you going to see your most UV is your higher color temps like 65K. I say this, because you do need to take steps to properly protect your eyes if you were or around these lights often.
And ur all stuck slow lmao there exists 4 ft bars same or near sa.e but have 600 2835 diodes per bar and can be ordered in 6 diff spectrums just about um 1000x times .ire efficient and the cost savings lmfao I'm not even gonna have people wanting to shoot themselves
LED does emit UV is not something you can say like that. LED can emit UV is more appropriate. The great thing about LED light is it's narrowband spectrum which can be achieved by the use of specific band-gap semiconductors. That is why, with more expensive devices the most effective wavelengths of light can be used and combined to suit the specific needs of the plants. Generally workplace white LED like the ones used by OP, do not emit UV, at least not anything near noticeable or dangerous. That is because they are produced for working environments, which means that people need to be safely working under them for 8+ hours a day. The grow lights do emit UV. You can see it, a grow-light will usually have a few LEDs which look like they are turned off, in fact these are (N)UV and (N)IR LEDs. With these kind of lights it is generally wise to use eye protection, also because the brightness can damage your eyes when you look into it.
Last spring, I created an indoor grow light station for my seedlings using a wire storage rack. I bought four, 4 ft. LED shop lights at Walmart that were $20 each. Each light has 2 LED strips with daylight ratings of 5,000 lumens with about a 5,500 Kelvin. Hung 2 lights on a shelf using S hooks and a small chain to lower/raise the lights. Quick and easy. Kept the LED lights on for 12 hours over my seedlings, then they automatically turned off with a digital timer. My seedlings did amazing! The total cost for the storage rack and lights was about $115.
@@DJChirpzTV Initially, I kept the grow lights about 2-3 inches above the seedlings. As they grew taller, I raised the lights. The LED lights don't get hot, so they shouldn't scorch the plants. My tomato seedlings did extremely well under the grow lights. I had a couple plants start to produce tomatoes around the 7th week. I was very impressed using the shop lights as grow lights.
We installed little LED strip lights underneath kitchen cabinets just for looks/fun. I started my props there just cuz my countertop was easier than anywhere else. My plants LOVE it there! Thx for the helpful vid
Disagree. Barrina 42W grow lights cost about ~66% more, but put out ~110% more light, and in the right spectrum. You have too little light w/ those 3 bulbs, and you are wasting electricity.
Thank you for this. I’m trying to create a tropical oasis in my house in Alaska. Thought about indoor plants I see thriving in no window offices, and saw 4 plants in a medical office growing beautifully under a dim light, and started wondering If I needed all the fancy setups for my house plants. I’ll stick to the marketed grow lights for fruit trees and herbs I want to grow since I don’t have much knowledge, and won’t take the time to confirm the marketed information regarding said lights, but for indoor plants I’ll follow your advice. Thank you for this.
You infact didn't use these shop lights though. Yah the old floros worked. T-8 or t-5 even better. With time things got much better. Lower light bill and more efficient. Floros will be like the old fatback televisions. LEDS are flat-screens.
I put full spectrum bulbs and daylight bulbs in my lamps and then rearrange the plants underneath the lamps all over the house. This way I didn't end up adding grow lights of any kind. Just changed the bulbs in the lamps.
I bought three, 4 foot, 200 watt, 5000k LED shop lights from Homeless Depot. I removed the plastic diffusers to expose the LED's. They work great for my off grid, winter garden. They cost $65 each. Adding the word "grow Light" increases the price.
Do you do solar for your off grid situation?? I had a random thought...if it's possible that indoor lights emit enough of the correct light to "power" a solar panel big enough to run one of the lights in the video. (Or if any light could work with a solar panel/battery setup...)
I bought 3 cxb 3590 for 60 And cobs not used anymore but they good and put that 65 you spend on the pocket With 60 i already bought a Viparspectra 90w with Samsung diodes So you capping hard!
I've used flourescents for decades ever since I noticed that the plants in the office grew better under them. Still have two sets of shop lights for seedling use. The fact they put out heat as well seems to work very well for the seedlings. The orchids that I have under LEDs, don't seem to like them that much. ::shrugs::
Well this is very interesting. I am just missing an analysis of the power used per watt of light actually emitted? I mean you mention it but I don't see that you are right just because you said so. Some 8W lamps emit only 1W of light which means electricity costs are way higher. The effectiveness of the light also depends on the spectrum and the type of plant. Some specific wavelenghts are also a lot more effective than others, hence the use of individual narrow-band LEDs to compose a spectrum. All of these together can make a 10$ growlight just as expensive as a 100$ growlight because the growlight is 10 times as efficient at growing plants. And then the growlight generally also has a dimmer which means that you can underpower your LEDs and increase their lifespan to 20+ years. Want to have different plants which respond better to another spectrum? With your method you have to buy new lamps, with modern growlights... just tune the spectrum. But yeah spiderfarmer is waaaaay overpriced you got scammed good there.
There is no such measurement, you cant measure light output in watts. Sure you can say lamps advertised as 8W, only consume 1W, the lamp is then 1W, but the light output is neither 1W or 8W. For light output you need to look at lumens, and lumens per watt. Or uMol/m2/s etc in grow lights. A 10$ growlight can never be as expensive as a 100$ one, you must be refering to W :). A lot of sellers just fabricate their own numbers, and states that they have a 1000w growlight, but the product is more likely only 100w. If you are paying less than 1$ per watt for a dedicated grow light, it is most likely a scam.
@@runargraneng4237 you are wrong. Light can be expressed in power. As it is energy of a specific amount. Just because it is not regularly done doesn't mean it's incorrect. Because photons of different wavelenghts have different energies calculations can be pretty hard. That why the measures you described are there. If you don't understand yet please let me know I will try to explain better.
I had a similar setup with my Ikea OMAR shelf and opted for the Ledvance LED Strip Lights in cool white. They worked like a charm and were budget-friendly, which was perfect for my space. Thanks for sharing your setup!
Does a gold water bowl work any better than a plastic one? That is the only difference between grow lights and white LEDs, particularly when the grow light costs hundreds of dollars! This message cant be said enough, when some people just dont know the difference between facts and advertisements. Houseplants arent typically grown for their fruits and vegetables, so there is no reason to worry about anything but good strong white light. My flowering plants dont seem to know any differently, either!
Of course they do, you're the person that don't seem to understand the difference in lighting, not the plants, so everything must be the same in your mind.
Thanks for the video. A while ago I watched a plant youtuber saying that normal LED lights won't work for the plants. But in my experience, my plants look happy and keep growing in the winter. This is confirming it.
Light is light, what matters is really the wavelength available to the plants and the brightness of those. Plants only absorb in the beginning and in the end of the visible spectrum, that's why they appear green, so basically you need a blue light and a red light
LED lights typically don’t emit much UV unless they are made for such application. You can mix LED types to get the right blend. Also the lighting needs of your plants flux with the seasons. I usually grow with a medium K rating like 5500 during the first month (spring), and change to a higher K rating 6500 (summer) during the second month, and finish with a low rating 4500-5000 at month three (fall). That would be optimal, but it’s not critical.
Do you have a video where you talk about how to regulate temperatures in your grow room? Every time I add a light, (or an air pump, for that matter) it makes the temp go up about 2 degrees. And that compounds really quickly.
I actually don’t have a video on this yet, but I should! Essentially you need to exhaust the heat from up high with an exhaust fan, and intake air from down low (cold air). The exhaust fan should be a stronger CFM(cubic feet per minute) rating than the intake in order to create a negative pressure. Ideally exchange all of the air within 10-30 mins. Calculate CF by LxWxH of your growing space, then get a fan accordingly. I use a mini split AC to cool, but that is not practical advice! I hope this helps 😊
@prettyingreen Yes that is very helpful! Thanks! The fan I have just circulates the same warm air, so it hasn't done much. I occasionally leave the door open and put the fan in the doorway to draw the warm air out. Better than nothing, but looking to improve it!
Well… I’ll jump into the conversation to say we installed led under cabinet lights in our kitchen and then began to notice that tomatoes we buy and keep in a bowl on the counter would have seeds sprouting when we cut them open! If only after a week sitting in the bowl. I was stupid enough to question the manager at Publix about this 😂 He informed me that the proximity of the lights was my problem not his product 😊 Grow up safely!
Wall mart has 4060 lumen led light bulbs buy some lamp sockets drill some holes in ply wood and you can easily get 36000 lumens in 2x2 area for way less than a real "grow light" thats half as strong
My tissue culture lab is four 2ft under-cabinet lights which can be mounted on the front edge of the shelves so the heat doesn't dry out the flasks further back, but it still throws light to the back where the shelf is and not straight down at all. They were $10 each.
Hello :) i want to buy these, but i want to know if these will be suitable for succulents? Also, would warm white emit enough UV for them or does it have to be the colors stared in the video? Loved this! Thank you!
its a misconception that you shouldn't buy "grow" lights because they are expensive. But in reality you can get a grow light for about $50 that will destroy any other $50 light setup that you may end up buying. Effeiency and cost and functionality is what you're looking for. Don't make a mistake in buying $50 in shop bulbs when you can just buy a grow light and you'll end up with more plants and less lights.
Correct. What you end up typically buying with a good “Grow Light” are highly efficient onboard LEDs. For houseplants growing, we usually can get away with Shop Light LEDs which are far cheaper to buy
Finally Someone who makes sence ! For a few years now ive been growing plants under very bright shop lights that would rival even some of the best grow ops..thanks for this . why pay hundreds of dollars for all those gimmicks?
Many shop lights have incredible light output. For vegetative growth (growing leaves) this is adequate for most of us! What you end up paying for with grow lights is VERY efficient LED chipsets that convert electricity to light more efficiently
hi: I have air pots in which I am now doing moringa and mulberry. I am thinking that in the winter, I bring them indoors to overwinter. I can use grow light and that is cheaper than making a green house.
Good morning! This is just the video I was looking for, what K would you recommend for tomatoes and chillis? Living in the uk ours have to be started indoors then put in the greenhouse in spring: thank you
When i followed it was $48 like you said but you got 8 MASSIVE $8 lights. I saw the video, but still didn’t grasp the size. I’m used to cheap it’s a small hobby Amazon lights. They took care of my plant shelf and 2 rooms. I thought I was going to spend $8 too…but got much more than my moneys worth. In a week I already notice a difference and feel like I just leveled up. I think I may see growth in the winter too!
@@prettyingreenwhich color and watt from the $8 pack you suggest to push more white in Monstera albo andasonii variegated & also good for pink princess plants? Also Thanks for sharing your knowledge, not many plant sellers do that 😂👌. You’re the Bomb!🔥☺️
What would you recommend for mostly vegetable & herb seed starting? If you have any affiliate links for the lights you recommend, I’d appreciate the share. Thanks in advance
You can buy a stone piont or utilitech led grow light at lowes great price is low buy two of the little round ones cost 30 dollars each online is cheaper or you can buy the hundred something dollar light at lowes or home depot large round one if you have more money.
im looking to replace ceiling lamp at an area at my home which is poorly lit, what kelvin you recommend will be best for natural light for me, but also good for plants?
it really depends on the application, T5s or T8s are fine for shallow, wide canopies of sprouts, lettuces or leafy greens where you can keep the bulbs very close to the canopy. Even scrogs can work with this type of phosphor coated light, they are not the best for the environment though, as they contain a lot of mercury and require specialist disposal (to comply with environmental protection laws). But hey, if it works for you, it works.
I love the Barrina 18w ones i linked through here on Amazon! If you want a SUPER efficient, fancy “grow light”, buy a Spider Farmer I linked in the description 😄
I bought 6000K White light 15000LM and also 5400LM 6500K will these be enough for an indoor veggie garden for all stages of growth? Sprout seedling vegetative, flowing and blooming? If not please recommend a product.
So is it not more energy efficient to supply UV light only (what grow light produce ) rather than the entire spectrum of light that a white florescent gives off ? seems like you'll have less growth for the energy required ? genuinely interested in your feed back as about to bye some lights
It depends what kind of houseplants you're growing. Some require lots of light, and a more efficient light is worth the money. You'll save money on your electric bill FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY.
yeah this isa classic con, if you know your lights u can save hundreds of dollars. Even before the mass production of LEDs ordinary QH will produce all the necessary wavelengths for PS for indoor plants. Of course same for much cheaper leds as long as they emit the right wavelengths/enough energy.
I'm using very cheap, led lights full spectrum and 4000k led running on a separate smart dimmer and smart switch. It pretty much can do what an expensive grow light could do. I could program it, to match what I'm growing and the stage of growth it is at. The most important parts of growing is how much lights the plants is getting. So how close or how far you place the lights is more important then the type of lights you use. Because most light will have most of the spectrum of lights anyway. I mostly stay away from the full pink led (red and blue) mainly because they don't seems to grow that well under it and the plants have a little bitter taste to it.
Yes do by grow lights if its cfls your after and they come in all different spec more than stated you wont find anything over 125 watts in cfls with out the grow part but you can def do it that way i was running 3 65watt ulilitech 2700ks for flower and they worked well
Yeah yeah that compared with the spider farmer you got there Its Poo poo ! 8$ Yeahh You spend at least 25 My spiderfatmer was a budget auction on ebay New So better than your 8$ fake price store bulbs At least buy some powerfull e27 with at least 3200 lumens each
For me im more interested in finding the shelving that fits these long lights. I keep seeing them set up but when i go look to buy a metal shelf none are the correct size to fit the length of the lights. Any ideas? Any help would be greatful ive been looking desperate to get my seeds stared for 2 months now.
I hope to use lights to speed up fruit tree propagation. I have a limited power source so which have the lower wattage but still bright enough or suitable spectrum? Your comment about the campfire was funny. Thanks for the video.
Full spectrum is very useful if you plan to grow an entire plant cycle in your closet. You want more than just white light for blooming in most species. But just for starting seedlings you can use literally whatever that isn't an incandescent bulb and be fine.
1:02 red led are included. it takes less energy to produce red. This mean higher Efficiency. That is greater PPFD per watt used. When plants Perceive red or blue wavelengths as a proportion of their total photon intake the plant reacts different phsyical characteristics. Red at a specific threshold causes shade avoidance. That is to say stem elongation occurs making the plant seem lanky and stretched out. Blue causes the opposite. The plant become more compact and dense. You can use a lower ratio of blue to red photons. About 4% blue is enough to send the plant signals it doesnt need to avoid shade. For actual detailed information on plant photon physiology consume some content by Professor Bruce Bugbee. Founder of Apoogee Instruments For more on the market of leds, Efficiency or efficacy, structure and performance, consume some content by Shane Torpey. Founder of Migro Lights.
Years ago, I would buy hps or hd security lights and use them as grow lights. I would rewire and remove light sensor. Also I would separate ballast and keep it on the floor.
@@brandyburgess8267 The TLDR is that bright white(4k) is enough to grow indoors without sun. Red helps/is needed for growth as well. Plants aren't super needy with light if they get within the 4k-6500k range. (check the box of the light you buy) As long as whatever light setup you make is enough to illuminate your plants evenly and consistently you don't have to be super picky about if it's from the garden center or a dollar store bulb on an extension cord.
yeah... don't need grow lights for house plants... grow lights are for high light requirements of fruiting outdoor plants. That's why they put out so much light
How would you recommend hanging these if I want to make them height-adjustable? I was thinking zip ties, then chain, but I'm not sure if they would melt the zip tie if it's wrapped around the light.
The blue-ish spectrum to start seedlings / clones. The more red-ish spectrum to bloom. But you'll need the larger lights from spider farmer or similar to bloom. The Barrina are good for vegetative growth
I would like to bring in my potted chili plants in the fall. What would be the best type of bulb to use to keep them producing chilis thru the winter months?
As of Feb 2024, they are on sale for $7 each: amzn.to/49KJbQK
I don't know much about plants but would the 6500 kelvin work not just for small plants but medium sized ones too?
@@Kiwimason Yup, I use the 6500k, 4000k, and the 5000k is the most balanced color!
Would these be efficient for seed starting by any chance?
$49 now
I bought the cheap grow lights off Amazon. I've been looking into lighting the darker areas of my apartment so I could spread my plants out. What should I look for when purchasing non plant lights? I'm searching shop lights now but want to make sure I'm getting the correct lighting :)
"Dont buy grow light" - put all his expensive plants under grow light, while cheap plants on shop lights. Brilliant.
You caught me
@@prettyingreen LOL
Lighting professional here, you are completely correct. There is one thing, though that I would like to add for the safety of your viewers. LED does emit UV light. in most cases it’s not enough for them to have to state it on the packaging that it does. Where are you going to see your most UV is your higher color temps like 65K. I say this, because you do need to take steps to properly protect your eyes if you were or around these lights often.
Yes! Most do emit UV! Thank you for adding this 🙌
You can definitely tell when walking into my grow room full of leds
And ur all stuck slow lmao there exists 4 ft bars same or near sa.e but have 600 2835 diodes per bar and can be ordered in 6 diff spectrums just about um 1000x times .ire efficient and the cost savings lmfao I'm not even gonna have people wanting to shoot themselves
LED does emit UV is not something you can say like that. LED can emit UV is more appropriate. The great thing about LED light is it's narrowband spectrum which can be achieved by the use of specific band-gap semiconductors. That is why, with more expensive devices the most effective wavelengths of light can be used and combined to suit the specific needs of the plants.
Generally workplace white LED like the ones used by OP, do not emit UV, at least not anything near noticeable or dangerous. That is because they are produced for working environments, which means that people need to be safely working under them for 8+ hours a day. The grow lights do emit UV. You can see it, a grow-light will usually have a few LEDs which look like they are turned off, in fact these are (N)UV and (N)IR LEDs. With these kind of lights it is generally wise to use eye protection, also because the brightness can damage your eyes when you look into it.
If you are a lighting professional, then you're a bad one.
Last spring, I created an indoor grow light station for my seedlings using a wire storage rack. I bought four, 4 ft. LED shop lights at Walmart that were $20 each. Each light has 2 LED strips with daylight ratings of 5,000 lumens with about a 5,500 Kelvin. Hung 2 lights on a shelf using S hooks and a small chain to lower/raise the lights. Quick and easy. Kept the LED lights on for 12 hours over my seedlings, then they automatically turned off with a digital timer. My seedlings did amazing! The total cost for the storage rack and lights was about $115.
what was the distance between the seedlings and lights? i’m about to buy some of those lights for my scotch bonnet peppers and okra.
@@DJChirpzTV Initially, I kept the grow lights about 2-3 inches above the seedlings. As they grew taller, I raised the lights. The LED lights don't get hot, so they shouldn't scorch the plants. My tomato seedlings did extremely well under the grow lights. I had a couple plants start to produce tomatoes around the 7th week. I was very impressed using the shop lights as grow lights.
@@brichter4669 that’s wonderful. thanks for responding
Mine will be in a shade house in the tropics, can they be waterproof?
Do you have the link to your lights?
One of the best videos that I have watched in a while. Great info and right to the point. You just earned a new follower now let’s grow!
Love to hear this!! Thank you for the sub!!!
We installed little LED strip lights underneath kitchen cabinets just for looks/fun. I started my props there just cuz my countertop was easier than anywhere else. My plants LOVE it there! Thx for the helpful vid
Input a plant near the LED Strip lights at my work (bar) and plants love it near them too!!!
Disagree. Barrina 42W grow lights cost about ~66% more, but put out ~110% more light, and in the right spectrum. You have too little light w/ those 3 bulbs, and you are wasting electricity.
Thank you for this.
I’m trying to create a tropical oasis in my house in Alaska. Thought about indoor plants I see thriving in no window offices, and saw 4 plants in a medical office growing beautifully under a dim light, and started wondering
If I needed all the fancy setups for my house plants.
I’ll stick to the marketed grow lights for fruit trees and herbs I want to grow since I don’t have much knowledge, and won’t take the time to confirm the marketed information regarding said lights, but for indoor plants I’ll follow your advice.
Thank you for this.
I used those in the 90’s before growing at home became popular with the new generation… we all used Home Depot’s shop lights
Oh yeah! T8 fluorescents from garages were the way to grow plants 😅
You infact didn't use these shop lights though. Yah the old floros worked. T-8 or t-5 even better. With time things got much better. Lower light bill and more efficient. Floros will be like the old fatback televisions. LEDS are flat-screens.
I put full spectrum bulbs and daylight bulbs in my lamps and then rearrange the plants underneath the lamps all over the house. This way I didn't end up adding grow lights of any kind. Just changed the bulbs in the lamps.
How much coverage per bulb?
Do you have any source for the blue = rooting and red = growth? Also, wouldn't full spectrum lights encompass all of those wavelengths anyways?
Source? You can Google it and it's everywhere.
it's false info
This guy is going around trying to get people to buy these shitty lights... He doesn't know what he is talking about!
@KillerBearsaw there's experiments on youtube where you can see this with your own eyes.
I bought three, 4 foot, 200 watt, 5000k LED shop lights from Homeless Depot. I removed the plastic diffusers to expose the LED's. They work great for my off grid, winter garden. They cost $65 each. Adding the word "grow Light" increases the price.
Do you do solar for your off grid situation?? I had a random thought...if it's possible that indoor lights emit enough of the correct light to "power" a solar panel big enough to run one of the lights in the video. (Or if any light could work with a solar panel/battery setup...)
Ahahah
Are you crazy
With that 65 i buy brand grow lights
I bought 3 cxb 3590 for 60
And cobs not used anymore but they good and put that 65 you spend on the pocket
With 60 i already bought a Viparspectra 90w with Samsung diodes
So you capping hard!
I've used flourescents for decades ever since I noticed that the plants in the office grew better under them. Still have two sets of shop lights for seedling use. The fact they put out heat as well seems to work very well for the seedlings. The orchids that I have under LEDs, don't seem to like them that much. ::shrugs::
Could you do a combo of both the red/pink lights and the blue lights to promote both root and plant growth?
Well this is very interesting. I am just missing an analysis of the power used per watt of light actually emitted? I mean you mention it but I don't see that you are right just because you said so. Some 8W lamps emit only 1W of light which means electricity costs are way higher. The effectiveness of the light also depends on the spectrum and the type of plant. Some specific wavelenghts are also a lot more effective than others, hence the use of individual narrow-band LEDs to compose a spectrum. All of these together can make a 10$ growlight just as expensive as a 100$ growlight because the growlight is 10 times as efficient at growing plants. And then the growlight generally also has a dimmer which means that you can underpower your LEDs and increase their lifespan to 20+ years. Want to have different plants which respond better to another spectrum? With your method you have to buy new lamps, with modern growlights... just tune the spectrum.
But yeah spiderfarmer is waaaaay overpriced you got scammed good there.
There is no such measurement, you cant measure light output in watts. Sure you can say lamps advertised as 8W, only consume 1W, the lamp is then 1W, but the light output is neither 1W or 8W.
For light output you need to look at lumens, and lumens per watt. Or uMol/m2/s etc in grow lights.
A 10$ growlight can never be as expensive as a 100$ one, you must be refering to W :). A lot of sellers just fabricate their own numbers, and states that they have a 1000w growlight, but the product is more likely only 100w. If you are paying less than 1$ per watt for a dedicated grow light, it is most likely a scam.
@@runargraneng4237 you are wrong. Light can be expressed in power. As it is energy of a specific amount. Just because it is not regularly done doesn't mean it's incorrect. Because photons of different wavelenghts have different energies calculations can be pretty hard. That why the measures you described are there. If you don't understand yet please let me know I will try to explain better.
Harbor freight has full spectrum lights for under $20
White LED flood lights are a lot cheaper than fluoros for the amount of PPFD you get (at least in my country)
amen to that my friend! for vegging especially, LED shop lights totally do the trick. skol
Exactly!
Does this also apply to veggie plants as well for all stages of growth?
I had a similar setup with my Ikea OMAR shelf and opted for the Ledvance LED Strip Lights in cool white. They worked like a charm and were budget-friendly, which was perfect for my space. Thanks for sharing your setup!
hey! would you mind sharing the reference ? thanks
Does a gold water bowl work any better than a plastic one? That is the only difference between grow lights and white LEDs, particularly when the grow light costs hundreds of dollars! This message cant be said enough, when some people just dont know the difference between facts and advertisements.
Houseplants arent typically grown for their fruits and vegetables, so there is no reason to worry about anything but good strong white light.
My flowering plants dont seem to know any differently, either!
Of course they do, you're the person that don't seem to understand the difference in lighting, not the plants, so everything must be the same in your mind.
@@deleqtronica8733 the evidence is on my side, maybe not your capitalist masters which is fine by me. Bless you.
@@deleqtronica8733 let's see, if the result is the same, and it looks and quacks like a duck...
Thanks for the video. A while ago I watched a plant youtuber saying that normal LED lights won't work for the plants. But in my experience, my plants look happy and keep growing in the winter. This is confirming it.
Light is light, what matters is really the wavelength available to the plants and the brightness of those. Plants only absorb in the beginning and in the end of the visible spectrum, that's why they appear green, so basically you need a blue light and a red light
LED lights typically don’t emit much UV unless they are made for such application. You can mix LED types to get the right blend. Also the lighting needs of your plants flux with the seasons. I usually grow with a medium K rating like 5500 during the first month (spring), and change to a higher K rating 6500 (summer) during the second month, and finish with a low rating 4500-5000 at month three (fall). That would be optimal, but it’s not critical.
Thankyou so much for the information 😊
Do you have a video where you talk about how to regulate temperatures in your grow room? Every time I add a light, (or an air pump, for that matter) it makes the temp go up about 2 degrees. And that compounds really quickly.
I actually don’t have a video on this yet, but I should!
Essentially you need to exhaust the heat from up high with an exhaust fan, and intake air from down low (cold air). The exhaust fan should be a stronger CFM(cubic feet per minute) rating than the intake in order to create a negative pressure. Ideally exchange all of the air within 10-30 mins. Calculate CF by LxWxH of your growing space, then get a fan accordingly.
I use a mini split AC to cool, but that is not practical advice! I hope this helps 😊
@prettyingreen Yes that is very helpful! Thanks! The fan I have just circulates the same warm air, so it hasn't done much. I occasionally leave the door open and put the fan in the doorway to draw the warm air out. Better than nothing, but looking to improve it!
Thank you 🎉
That’s great info; thanks for sharing!
Well…
I’ll jump into the conversation to say we installed led under cabinet lights in our kitchen and then began to notice that tomatoes we buy and keep in a bowl on the counter would have seeds sprouting when we cut them open! If only after a week sitting in the bowl. I was stupid enough to question the manager at Publix about this 😂
He informed me that the proximity of the lights was my problem not his product 😊
Grow up safely!
Hahahahhaa I love this!! Light grows plants 😆 Some more efficiently than others
Yeah but they barely put out any PPFD. Like maybe 25 for one light at 8 inches. Might be okay for seedlings.
Wall mart has 4060 lumen led light bulbs buy some lamp sockets drill some holes in ply wood and you can easily get 36000 lumens in 2x2 area for way less than a real "grow light" thats half as strong
Just got a Spiderfarmer and liked it so much I got a 2nd one
They work incredibly well!
My tissue culture lab is four 2ft under-cabinet lights which can be mounted on the front edge of the shelves so the heat doesn't dry out the flasks further back, but it still throws light to the back where the shelf is and not straight down at all. They were $10 each.
Hello :) i want to buy these, but i want to know if these will be suitable for succulents? Also, would warm white emit enough UV for them or does it have to be the colors stared in the video? Loved this! Thank you!
its a misconception that you shouldn't buy "grow" lights because they are expensive. But in reality you can get a grow light for about $50 that will destroy any other $50 light setup that you may end up buying. Effeiency and cost and functionality is what you're looking for. Don't make a mistake in buying $50 in shop bulbs when you can just buy a grow light and you'll end up with more plants and less lights.
Correct. What you end up typically buying with a good “Grow Light” are highly efficient onboard LEDs. For houseplants growing, we usually can get away with Shop Light LEDs which are far cheaper to buy
Do you have an example of a good 50 dollar light?
Finally Someone who makes sence ! For a few years now ive been growing plants under very bright shop lights that would rival even some of the best grow ops..thanks for this . why pay hundreds of dollars for all those gimmicks?
Many shop lights have incredible light output. For vegetative growth (growing leaves) this is adequate for most of us! What you end up paying for with grow lights is VERY efficient LED chipsets that convert electricity to light more efficiently
My hoyas plants started to bloom from just a normal clip- on bright light! Nothing fancy here!😂
I’ve grown bonsai under shop lights for years, still do, they work well!
hi: I have air pots in which I am now doing moringa and mulberry. I am thinking that in the winter, I bring them indoors to overwinter. I can use grow light and that is cheaper than making a green house.
Good morning! This is just the video I was looking for, what K would you recommend for tomatoes and chillis? Living in the uk ours have to be started indoors then put in the greenhouse in spring: thank you
Hi! Higher Kelvin like 5000-6500k for seed starting 😄
I followed the links but couldn’t find any for $8… all came in packs for way more. 😞
Here's a 2 pack for $20: amzn.to/49h13n8
@@prettyingreenand that’s stil 10 a pop not eight ! Gent a real job
Clowns be clowns this is the internet after all
When i followed it was $48 like you said but you got 8 MASSIVE $8 lights. I saw the video, but still didn’t grasp the size. I’m used to cheap it’s a small hobby Amazon lights. They took care of my plant shelf and 2 rooms. I thought I was going to spend $8 too…but got much more than my moneys worth. In a week I already notice a difference and feel like I just leveled up. I think I may see growth in the winter too!
@@prettyingreenwhich color and watt from the $8 pack you suggest to push more white in Monstera albo andasonii variegated & also good for pink princess plants?
Also Thanks for sharing your knowledge, not many plant sellers do that 😂👌. You’re the Bomb!🔥☺️
What wattage uv light should I get for house plants over all
Full spectrum lighting is pretty cheap now
Thanks!
Welcome!
What would you recommend for mostly vegetable & herb seed starting? If you have any affiliate links for the lights you recommend, I’d appreciate the share. Thanks in advance
You can buy a stone piont or utilitech led grow light at lowes great price is low buy two of the little round ones cost 30 dollars each online is cheaper or you can buy the hundred something dollar light at lowes or home depot large round one if you have more money.
Yes! Great advice
Thank you!!! This was so helpful. I’ve been looking for this kind of info forever.
Great info on Grow Lights thanks!
What is the more red one for growing? Like what do I look for?
The lower Kelvin temps below 5000k. I love the 4000k for this
The Sun isn't on fire, man. Space has no oxygen, and the sun doesn't have an atmosphere.
hy can i grov microgrow vegetable and germ for food?How you call that lamp?Thanx
Thanks for explaining with the different lighting setups 🤓 I've been looking for another cost-effective way to grow other than labeled grow lights 🌱.
im looking to replace ceiling lamp at an area at my home which is poorly lit, what kelvin you recommend will be best for natural light for me, but also good for plants?
Most of us prefer a warmer light (4000k) and that would work great for plant growth!
thank you so much!
What depth wire rack do you use? 18" depth?
Color temperature????
Yes, the kelvin color temperature
it really depends on the application, T5s or T8s are fine for shallow, wide canopies of sprouts, lettuces or leafy greens where you can keep the bulbs very close to the canopy. Even scrogs can work with this type of phosphor coated light, they are not the best for the environment though, as they contain a lot of mercury and require specialist disposal (to comply with environmental protection laws). But hey, if it works for you, it works.
How to make a plant nursery in a house and control humidity and temperature, brother
I wish I had seen this video before I have purchased grow lights 😢
Can i use these lights for my succulents during winter?
Ok so which lights should i buy cause im so lost
I love the Barrina 18w ones i linked through here on Amazon! If you want a SUPER efficient, fancy “grow light”, buy a Spider Farmer I linked in the description 😄
I just looked them up on Amazon they are all still very expensive. $60.00 plus
Check out the top pinned comment. Just checked: $8 each when you buy 6. So $49 for the pack
Does anyone happen to know a cheap brand like this in Australia?
Look for any led shop lights, office lights
I bought 6000K White light 15000LM and also 5400LM 6500K will these be enough for an indoor veggie garden for all stages of growth? Sprout seedling vegetative, flowing and blooming? If not please recommend a product.
So is it not more energy efficient to supply UV light only (what grow light produce ) rather than the entire spectrum of light that a white florescent gives off ? seems like you'll have less growth for the energy required ? genuinely interested in your feed back as about to bye some lights
So then this would be okay for starting plants indoors 6 weeks before i put them outside😊 thx so much. $8 is definitely affordable for me!
I use cheap LED floodlights, they come in a range of kelvin and wattages
Yes the flood lights are great too bc sometimes they are even waterproof!
Ok I have a ton of grow lights in my room, and plan on getting more lol, so are you saying I can use any light for grow light?
Light is not equal. For seedlings these are fine. For veg and flower you’ll need better lighting
You can buy regular lights and use them for your plants. I have been doing it for years . Just do like he says
@@ariannaplayshouse what about house plants
I bought a bright cool white led light, and my plants have been steadily growing.
effectively yes! When just growing houseplants, use your 3000k-7000k LEDs or CFLs!
It depends what kind of houseplants you're growing. Some require lots of light, and a more efficient light is worth the money. You'll save money on your electric bill FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY.
My House plants are cannabis plants !
Nice!
I have demanded he recognise universal suffrage for all plants. 😂
I'm trying to grow indoors with a 6x6 space. What do you recommend?
I want to help my mom set something up like this. Is there a breakdown of what to get to set it up and when to use red white and Blue ?
Grab the 5000k color from Amazon, or use the 4000k. Mix is always ideal, but red stretches plants, and blue tends to root better. Easy to put up
@@prettyingreen thank you so much!
yeah this isa classic con, if you know your lights u can save hundreds of dollars. Even before the mass production of LEDs ordinary QH will produce all the necessary wavelengths for PS for indoor plants. Of course same for much cheaper leds as long as they emit the right wavelengths/enough energy.
Thank you. Finally a video focusing on info/tips instead of drama 🙄
lol I gotta balance it!
You should but, info like this is very valuable thank you for sharing.
Yes but what's their lux? Ppfd?
Ppfd around 70-100 when grouped 3 lights per 4’ rack
You get what you pay for. Try the new HLG. Not just for terpines.
HLG led?
@@prettyingreen Horticulture Lighting Group. Aroid leaves change in different spectrums. The quantum boards are super efficient too.
On the wire shelves how many do you recommend to hang from a shelf? How many hours for each stage?
I have and love these lights. I cut the frosted lenses off and use 4 per 2x4 shelf. Best bang for your buck by far.
Ooo smart to take the frosted shield off!
I’d like to claim the idea but I saw it in a video. It seems to direct the light down better without the lenses
I'm using very cheap, led lights full spectrum and 4000k led running on a separate smart dimmer and smart switch. It pretty much can do what an expensive grow light could do. I could program it, to match what I'm growing and the stage of growth it is at. The most important parts of growing is how much lights the plants is getting. So how close or how far you place the lights is more important then the type of lights you use. Because most light will have most of the spectrum of lights anyway. I mostly stay away from the full pink led (red and blue) mainly because they don't seems to grow that well under it and the plants have a little bitter taste to it.
buy any shop light with samsung evo LEDs
🎯🎯🎯🎯
whats best for leafy greens like Bok choy
These EXACT lights I'm showing in the vid are IDEAL for leafy greens! amzn.to/49KJbQK
THIS.
Yes do by grow lights if its cfls your after and they come in all different spec more than stated you wont find anything over 125 watts in cfls with out the grow part but you can def do it that way i was running 3 65watt ulilitech 2700ks for flower and they worked well
Yeah yeah that compared with the spider farmer you got there
Its
Poo poo !
8$
Yeahh
You spend at least 25
My spiderfatmer was a budget auction on ebay
New
So better than your 8$ fake price store bulbs
At least buy some powerfull e27 with at least 3200 lumens each
lol yes spider farmer are better lights. But these $8 Barrina lights work fantastic. Still use them everyday ALONGSIDE my spiderfarmer
Ofc they arent aviable in my country...
For me im more interested in finding the shelving that fits these long lights. I keep seeing them set up but when i go look to buy a metal shelf none are the correct size to fit the length of the lights. Any ideas? Any help would be greatful ive been looking desperate to get my seeds stared for 2 months now.
If you have a harbor freight near, the 4 ft 10000k shop lights work great
I hope to use lights to speed up fruit tree propagation. I have a limited power source so which have the lower wattage but still bright enough or suitable spectrum? Your comment about the campfire was funny. Thanks for the video.
Thanks so much for sharing this, I had bought a full spectrum LED light thinking it's what my plants needed 😅
The full spectrum work well, but we usually don't need something as sophisticated as that for our houseplants :)
Full spectrum is very useful if you plan to grow an entire plant cycle in your closet. You want more than just white light for blooming in most species. But just for starting seedlings you can use literally whatever that isn't an incandescent bulb and be fine.
1:02 red led are included. it takes less energy to produce red. This mean higher Efficiency. That is greater PPFD per watt used.
When plants Perceive red or blue wavelengths as a proportion of their total photon intake the plant reacts different phsyical characteristics. Red at a specific threshold causes shade avoidance. That is to say stem elongation occurs making the plant seem lanky and stretched out.
Blue causes the opposite. The plant become more compact and dense.
You can use a lower ratio of blue to red photons. About 4% blue is enough to send the plant signals it doesnt need to avoid shade.
For actual detailed information on plant photon physiology consume some content by Professor Bruce Bugbee. Founder of Apoogee Instruments
For more on the market of leds, Efficiency or efficacy, structure and performance, consume some content by Shane Torpey. Founder of Migro Lights.
True! Cooler light temps create bushy plants, red stretches them out
Years ago, I would buy hps or hd security lights and use them as grow lights. I would rewire and remove light sensor. Also I would separate ballast and keep it on the floor.
Oh yeah..the old HPS outdoor flood lights! Scary playing with those wires!
yeah maybe good for some herbs definitely not good enough for cannabis and so
Great for houseplants. Use the Spider Farmer SLF200 for cannabis
green first white light then uv then red before harvest
Not camp fire 😂😂😂
commenting for myself.
kelvin is what matters. 4k-6500k
white(4k) is ok for plants blue (65) is better
want some red light.
All these good for all stages of growth for veggies? If not what do you recommend?
@@brandyburgess8267 The TLDR is that bright white(4k) is enough to grow indoors without sun. Red helps/is needed for growth as well.
Plants aren't super needy with light if they get within the 4k-6500k range. (check the box of the light you buy) As long as whatever light setup you make is enough to illuminate your plants evenly and consistently you don't have to be super picky about if it's from the garden center or a dollar store bulb on an extension cord.
What PPFD do you aim for?
Start around 100, up to 300-500
caveman indoor grow i can see that. some lettuce growing around the camp fire
😆😆🤣
yeah... don't need grow lights for house plants... grow lights are for high light requirements of fruiting outdoor plants. That's why they put out so much light
On point
I'm trying to grow fruiting veggies indoor. What do you recommend?
Can i grow tulips in led lights instead sun light
Absolutely!
@@prettyingreen what LED light specifications ?
how many of these do you need to replace a professional grow light for cannabis?
I would only use these for foliage/vegetative stage. You need high intensity lights for flowering cannabis
How would you recommend hanging these if I want to make them height-adjustable? I was thinking zip ties, then chain, but I'm not sure if they would melt the zip tie if it's wrapped around the light.
I have some of these in my growroom for ceiling lights and they do not get warm. Should be good with the zip ties 👍
Really nice video. Good advice. Im getting into growing cannabis so which ones would be good?
The blue-ish spectrum to start seedlings / clones. The more red-ish spectrum to bloom. But you'll need the larger lights from spider farmer or similar to bloom. The Barrina are good for vegetative growth
I would like to bring in my potted chili plants in the fall. What would be the best type of bulb to use to keep them producing chilis thru the winter months?
For flowering try something like the spiderFarmer: amzn.to/3Mjgcua
This is all new to me . Up to now my plants are not kept and are thrown away. So are there any shop lights that could also work??? Thanks.
Hello,
Would the spider farmer lights be good for growing cacti? Thanks
Honestly I think so! They’re SO bright