@@jessicalynch222 That's what I really like about the games like this one. It won't necessarily "reward" you for making "moral" or "immoral" choices. It will just show you the realistic consequences of your approach. It's enough to make the player reflect.
When you bring up Sarah Lee being sick and Elizabeth won't give her meds. I wish Sean mentioned when Claire and Stephen gave Daniel meds when he was sick.
You missed 2 things, there are always 4 choices : 1. Another reverend worry about the health of Sarah Lee 2. Lisbeth tries to adopt Daniel Both proofs are in the office.
“There was nothing but trees and potheads in California, and you liked it!” I can’t be mad at him for that. He was 9 years old and around a bunch of hippie teens who were getting high all the time. And Sean did basically neglect Daniel the whole time
Not really, remember he is still a teenager and he needs to be free a little, you can't just take of someone if you're always neglecting your own needs. This doesn't mean he was neglecting daniel on purpose. He needed time to himself, regardless he still made sure he made time for Daniel. Plus, by the end of the game, Sean apologizes for his mistakes
@@jtg9210 Involuntary neglect is still neglect. Daniel clearly hated the place and the work he was forced into, while for Sean it was mostly working out, because he got to hang around the people like him. During the skip between the episodes, Sean canonically doesn't balance his fun time with taking care of Daniel. Not to mention, Sean kept ignoring his pleas about getting out of the farm and finding their Mom. That's why Daniel is on such an edge from the beginning of ep3. On top of all the trauma he's experienced, he feels like he's losing the only family he has left. I don't mean to disparage Sean here, of course he's also just a teenager simply trying his best and too young to deal with all these complex issues. Nevertheless, this lack of balance ended up horribly for both the brothers, so it's only right for Sean to realize his mistakes and apologize to Daniel, saying he still could've been a better brother.
So I checked the script on the wiki page, and found this. Sean: Come with me, Daniel. We're leaving. (Daniel has High Morality (≥ 0)) Daniel: I'm sorry, Sean... I can't... (Daniel has Low Morality (< 0)) Daniel: What? No! I'm not going anywhere... Faith in yourself. Sean: Don't listen to her religious bullshit, you need to have faith in yourself, not in her. (Told Daniel heaven was real) Daniel: But... you said... Heaven and God existed! Why are you lying? (Told Daniel heaven wasn't real) Daniel: How do you know it's bullshit? You don't believe in anything! This is no place for you! Sean: This is no place for you! Look around you... Do you really want this? (Daniel has High Brotherhood (≥ 0)) Daniel: It's fine! We've been to worse places since we left Seattle... (Daniel has Low Brotherhood (< 0)) Daniel: So what? There was nothing but trees and potheads in California, and you liked it! Toxic community... Sean: This... this is a toxic community... She's cutting everyone from the world, keeping things secret, and she wants to keep you to herself! (Daniel has High Morality (≥ -5)) Daniel: It's better like that! At least I'm not hurting anyone, anymore out here. (Daniel has Low Morality (< -5)) Daniel: At least I can show my power out here, show how strong I am, and no one is afraid! You're smarter than this. Sean: Come on, Daniel. I know you're smarter than this. Don't tell me you're buying her crap... (Daniel has High Brotherhood (≥ 0)) Daniel: Yes I do! I trust her, Sean! She takes care of me. (Daniel has Low Brotherhood (< 0)) Daniel: I bought yours many times, and look at everything it got me into! Your "homework." (determinant) Sean: I've seen your "homework", Daniel. Copying lines over and over? How can you accept that? This is worse than school! (Daniel has High Morality (≥ -5)) Daniel: It's for my own good! To clear myself from all the things I did before. (Daniel has Low Morality (< -5)) Daniel: People deserve punishment for the bad things they do! And we did a lot of bad things, Sean... (Daniel has High Morality (≥ 0)) Sean: Listen, I did my best job to be a good brother... And I know I probably failed. (Daniel has Low Morality (< 0)) Sean: Listen, I know I wasn't a great brother... I was an asshole... These are very interesting dialogues that can help you tell where Daniels morality is at if you aren’t certain.
When Lisbeth was asking Karen where she was when Sean and Daniel were alone wandering in the wilderness, Sean was looking at his mom and not defending her. He even asked her where she was during the time she disappeared from his and Daniel's life. It's like Sean knows Lisbeth is a terrible and manipulative person, he is somewhat agreeing with her when she is calling Karen out.
I have to say idgaf how damn manipulated was Daniel here, he was a damn bad brother. Like, he didn't hesitate to throw us flying the very first opportunity he had but then we are being beaten up by a really aggressive dude (that inspires no confidence since the beginning) and I really thought for a moment Sean would end up unconscious or in a really bad state like BRO. I have a big brother and since day one of my life I've looked bad and confronted every person that made anything bad to him and just couldn't believe this. I even got more mad because in the plant I panicked when Big Joe wanted to beat up Daniel, it was like “no f* way I'm allowing you to do this” and then he does this🤦🏻♀️
Aaron Simmons No, he was annoying. What little brother would pick some random stranger over the big brother they grew up with and had fun with. It’s so out of place.
The Fat Vegan noisy you have no idea what brainwashing is like adults will disown their own family if they don’t believe what they believe in I’ve heard it plenty of times for example parents will disown their own son for being gay
Bruh not all Gemini’s like me are manipulative assholes. She seems more like a Virgo or Scorpio because both are very religious and have faith in their religion. Plus scorpios and virgos are just as good at manipulating.
@@BlueIzHyper_91 oh. Thx for answered. Gemini is a good talker but they are good I guess. Gemini charisma is like 9 or 10,but they only do good things and not manipulate people if they want to.
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Man.... The game really makes you FEEL the consequences of your actions.
I’ve full on cried already over this game because I always make the moral decisions and it feels like it just makes everything worse
@@jessicalynch222 That's what I really like about the games like this one. It won't necessarily "reward" you for making "moral" or "immoral" choices. It will just show you the realistic consequences of your approach. It's enough to make the player reflect.
When you bring up Sarah Lee being sick and Elizabeth won't give her meds. I wish Sean mentioned when Claire and Stephen gave Daniel meds when he was sick.
Oof. That would be a good one.
You missed 2 things, there are always 4 choices :
1. Another reverend worry about the health of Sarah Lee
2. Lisbeth tries to adopt Daniel
Both proofs are in the office.
Poor Sean gets beaten to a pulp in this episode, hard to watch.
I was hoping he would get a super strength power since he gets beat up all the time.
“There was nothing but trees and potheads in California, and you liked it!”
I can’t be mad at him for that. He was 9 years old and around a bunch of hippie teens who were getting high all the time. And Sean did basically neglect Daniel the whole time
*Exactly.* Plus, this line happens if you basically didn't care about your relationship with Daniel, so it makes even more sense
Not really, remember he is still a teenager and he needs to be free a little, you can't just take of someone if you're always neglecting your own needs. This doesn't mean he was neglecting daniel on purpose. He needed time to himself, regardless he still made sure he made time for Daniel. Plus, by the end of the game, Sean apologizes for his mistakes
@@jtg9210 Involuntary neglect is still neglect. Daniel clearly hated the place and the work he was forced into, while for Sean it was mostly working out, because he got to hang around the people like him.
During the skip between the episodes, Sean canonically doesn't balance his fun time with taking care of Daniel. Not to mention, Sean kept ignoring his pleas about getting out of the farm and finding their Mom. That's why Daniel is on such an edge from the beginning of ep3. On top of all the trauma he's experienced, he feels like he's losing the only family he has left.
I don't mean to disparage Sean here, of course he's also just a teenager simply trying his best and too young to deal with all these complex issues. Nevertheless, this lack of balance ended up horribly for both the brothers, so it's only right for Sean to realize his mistakes and apologize to Daniel, saying he still could've been a better brother.
More great LIS 2 content from you found quite a few new dialogues I did not know existed
So I checked the script on the wiki page, and found this.
Sean: Come with me, Daniel. We're leaving.
(Daniel has High Morality (≥ 0))
Daniel: I'm sorry, Sean... I can't...
(Daniel has Low Morality (< 0))
Daniel: What? No! I'm not going anywhere...
Faith in yourself.
Sean: Don't listen to her religious bullshit, you need to have faith in yourself, not in her.
(Told Daniel heaven was real)
Daniel: But... you said... Heaven and God existed! Why are you lying?
(Told Daniel heaven wasn't real)
Daniel: How do you know it's bullshit? You don't believe in anything!
This is no place for you!
Sean: This is no place for you! Look around you... Do you really want this?
(Daniel has High Brotherhood (≥ 0))
Daniel: It's fine! We've been to worse places since we left Seattle...
(Daniel has Low Brotherhood (< 0))
Daniel: So what? There was nothing but trees and potheads in California, and you liked it!
Toxic community...
Sean: This... this is a toxic community... She's cutting everyone from the world, keeping things secret, and she wants to keep you to herself!
(Daniel has High Morality (≥ -5))
Daniel: It's better like that! At least I'm not hurting anyone, anymore out here.
(Daniel has Low Morality (< -5))
Daniel: At least I can show my power out here, show how strong I am, and no one is afraid!
You're smarter than this.
Sean: Come on, Daniel. I know you're smarter than this. Don't tell me you're buying her crap...
(Daniel has High Brotherhood (≥ 0))
Daniel: Yes I do! I trust her, Sean! She takes care of me.
(Daniel has Low Brotherhood (< 0))
Daniel: I bought yours many times, and look at everything it got me into!
Your "homework." (determinant)
Sean: I've seen your "homework", Daniel. Copying lines over and over? How can you accept that? This is worse than school!
(Daniel has High Morality (≥ -5))
Daniel: It's for my own good! To clear myself from all the things I did before.
(Daniel has Low Morality (< -5))
Daniel: People deserve punishment for the bad things they do! And we did a lot of bad things, Sean...
(Daniel has High Morality (≥ 0))
Sean: Listen, I did my best job to be a good brother... And I know I probably failed.
(Daniel has Low Morality (< 0))
Sean: Listen, I know I wasn't a great brother... I was an asshole...
These are very interesting dialogues that can help you tell where Daniels morality is at if you aren’t certain.
So much LiS2 content. Thank you!
When Lisbeth was asking Karen where she was when Sean and Daniel were alone wandering in the wilderness, Sean was looking at his mom and not defending her. He even asked her where she was during the time she disappeared from his and Daniel's life. It's like Sean knows Lisbeth is a terrible and manipulative person, he is somewhat agreeing with her when she is calling Karen out.
Daniel is the reason everything wrong happens
Real
I have to say idgaf how damn manipulated was Daniel here, he was a damn bad brother. Like, he didn't hesitate to throw us flying the very first opportunity he had but then we are being beaten up by a really aggressive dude (that inspires no confidence since the beginning) and I really thought for a moment Sean would end up unconscious or in a really bad state like BRO. I have a big brother and since day one of my life I've looked bad and confronted every person that made anything bad to him and just couldn't believe this. I even got more mad because in the plant I panicked when Big Joe wanted to beat up Daniel, it was like “no f* way I'm allowing you to do this” and then he does this🤦🏻♀️
I hate daniel too hes such a spoiled brat and it gives me pain everytime i replay the game
@@aahmeettxo he’s 10 nigga what’d you expect
Bduh you should’ve picked what would dad say
Daniel was being brat Alot in this episode
He was being manipulated
Yep, he was brainwashed, confused and angry.
Aaron Simmons No, he was annoying. What little brother would pick some random stranger over the big brother they grew up with and had fun with. It’s so out of place.
The Fat Vegan noisy you have no idea what brainwashing is like adults will disown their own family if they don’t believe what they believe in I’ve heard it plenty of times for example parents will disown their own son for being gay
4everanarsenalfan sadly that is true,in some circumstances in other countries parents kill their children for being gay.
Guess Elizabeth is Gemini
Bruh not all Gemini’s like me are manipulative assholes. She seems more like a Virgo or Scorpio because both are very religious and have faith in their religion. Plus scorpios and virgos are just as good at manipulating.
@@BlueIzHyper_91 oh. Thx for answered. Gemini is a good talker but they are good I guess. Gemini charisma is like 9 or 10,but they only do good things and not manipulate people if they want to.
Predujuce
Well, zodiac's not reliable enough to judge that stuff
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