Monument Hobbies Spills the Paint Secrets | S5E3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2024
- On this week's episode of Trapped Under Plastic, Jon and Scott talk with Jason Craze from Monument Hobbies. They discuss, starting a hobby company from the GROUND UP!
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00:00:00 Start
00:01:03 Preamble Ramble
00:16:07 What We Painted
00:30:16 Main Topic
02:06:39 Outro
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"We never know today what ideas we will have tomorrow" what a fantastic quote.
The Walt Disney of miniature painting over here lol
One of the reasons I love MH products so much is the passion and love for the hobby is so evident in how they design their products. They make and sell the products and tools they want to use themselves. I'm really excited to see what they do next. (Hint, I'd love to see a portable paint light that attaches to the new Go Bag!)
Really needed to hear that comment that we're not making life support systems here, just get to it and send it. Excellent chat and always enjoy you guys and hope to see jason join in again in the future.
Awesome episode. Thank you for taking the time to get this together. Jason is an awesome guy and a great guest. Monument makes incredible stuff !
FML I used to just love Monument for the paint, now I actually love the company... My wife is NOT going to smile at the bank account 🤣
Ditto, I just dropped 200 plus on Pro Acryl paints 😂😂
I recently switched to pro-acryl from army painter, love the paint, but after John’s glowing metallics review I have to get some, don’t have any yet!
Awesome episode.
I'm a huge MH Stan, so was awesome getting to hear from Jason.
This was a great chat. Switched to monument last year when I found my prior ranges lacking in a few areas and I'll never look back. Their commercials and community presence made them stand out. Jason and his company and products feel very genuine and in touch. Appreciate the content!
I would be over the moon to have a ProAcryl 'Military' line like Jason was talking about. There's a handful of VMH paints that I just can't get rid of entirely yet, because they are so versatile for my paint style and not having to mix is so key for me. The 4 that come to mind off the top of my head are German Field Grey, German Black Brown, German Camo Beige & English Uniform.
That said, I own every ProAcryl base paint and Jon/Vince's packs. I use them almost exclusively with few exceptions.
I live in a tiny town in the middle of Illinois and I'm a loyal monument customer and I purchased it all at my local store. This was a great story I had no idea it was such a small company.
The other company was Grenadier. I still have hundreds or Ral Partha and Grenadier models.
What did they do
great interview. i was the GW bunker manager in Memphis, TN when it opened. loved my time at GW!
So nice to hear all the awesome backstories from the man himself! Much appreciated for the video. Love you guys.
AWESOME guest! Your podcast is becoming unmissable :) Thanks for everything, boys!
This was such an awesome and informative episode. I came in expecting some good laughs and I received so much knowledge and insight. Thank you so much guys! This is dope.
Loved this show in particular. Love your chats but this knocked it out of the park.
This an excellent interview! Glad to hear the story behind a great company!
So Monument Hobbies is my go-to paint and brushes! I absolutely love this episode. Much love to this company and the podcast! My favorite painters with my favorite supplier, glorious!
As a ceramic and plastic palette user I'm feeling so goddamn empowered right now. I've done wet palettes and it is very nice sometimes, mostly with thicker paints that need to be thinned considerably anyway, but with Pro Acryl I just don't need it. It's even a detriment to some of their colors like some of the greys that work great out the bottle with a touch of water on the brush but they start to break down if you add too much water instead of medium to thin.
Honestly, I knew the Monument people were pretty cool, but this is pretty eye opening. I'm a lot more likely to continue using them despite liking other brands a ton as well. If Monument made military colors in a separate line I would definitely buy them. Also, I've been struggling like crazy with the wet palette to the point that it causes me to not paint. I'm about to buy a glass palette instead
great show guys! Monument Hobbies sounds awesome, I'll def check them out more often
What is the Canadian company he didn't want to mention, and why?
I was about to ask the same thing. Hopefully someone knows...
Could it be Creature Caster? I don't know why though
It is Creature Caster, initially Pro Acryl was sold by Creature Caster. Monument had a ton of problems with Creature Caster fucking up orders and doing shit all costumer service. In the end I think it was a win win for both companies to go their separate ways. For Jason though I can understand not wanting to talk about them since they almost torpedoed his business before it even got off the ground. Creature Caster I think learned that they needed to be far more organized and be serious about the business they were in.
Love you guys! Just woke up and started up the computer and hit the youtube and making my coffe! got my army ready for an airbrush a setion. And look at that, relesed the episode 1 minute ago! Lets go boys!
What a rad guest. Enjoyed Al 3 of you hanging out together while I got my day going. As always great video dudes.
Great episode. Love monument products, I finally found brushes I love. Thanks guys
I could've listened to another 2 hours of you all talk. Great podcast!
I love this episode. Jason seems like a chill dude, knowledgeable and down-to-earth . Monument is such a cool company, too. The paints, the basing media and the brushes are just phenomenal. If you're getting into Pro-Acryl paints, get the twist-off tops. I loved the call out to The Forge, too :)
Great episode, flgs Comic Quest in Lake Forest CA has all the Monument things. I have most ND really appreciate the quality. 🍻🎲🍻
Terrific episode! Jason is a great guest. Love his thoughts on wet pallets.
Jason describes what a paint contest should be, like he wants to have a painters version of "Iron Chef"!!! And that would be awesome!
Loved this, Jason did my first ever interview, what a legend
Great video, love to hear from the guy who does monument hobbies love the back story.
Great episode guys. Very fun.
I use both a wet pallet and dry pallet. The wet pallet has been a game changer for the craft pains I still use. They are so thick, a wet pallet keeps them usable for weeks and actually helps thin them down. Miniature paints are a different story though. After a few hours on a wet pallet, they get too wet and are either too thin to use, or start to separate.
looking forward to this one!
This not only inspired my painting, but has encouraged with my other art businesses and passions
Love me some Monument Hobbies paints!
1:30:00 One of the contributors to Massive Voodoo (I don't know if you guys have heard of that studio) was using an ice palette, which was just tinfoil over an ice tray full of ice cubes.
I use the wet pallet with very little water and it works really well for me with pro acryl paints. I think the problem is they are not an exact science because everyone's climate is different. If you're having problems with Pro Acryl paints over diluting definitely try this out.
God damn it Jon this time you might get the demon! Hope you do.
I got the monument paints a lot of time ago and they are really good, its nice to put a face to the product. I wish they were a bit more available in EU and had different bottle design, but the paint itself is awesome.
I have switched almost completely to monument + contrast paints. I have switched out the nipple bottles to the flip caps (thanks for selling them on the website!) and I’m loving it. If you are looking for some new paints, the GW paints I still use are Leadbelcher, and Trollslayer Orange. I would love to see something similar from monument.
I've used both hard and wet... I see both techniques working but I go back and forth depending on my project and the amount of time I have.
That Brush soap is the bomb. Seriously if you do not own it. Go buy it. worth every single penny. And their customer service is amazing. I had a problem with a brush, and their guy who answered me rolled out the answer and explained everything to me perfectly. Monument will always be on my hobby desk. They are the company to use.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Yes, my dude, I gave up on using wet palettes for the exact same reasons. They're an extra chore that takes time away from painting. I prefer white tiles, they wipe clean and are great to gauge tints and blends etc. and they cost 50 cents if I need a fresh one
Another awesome episode. I just wonder how many listeners had a existential crisis when they learned you can paint, and on a high level, not using a wet palette. 😁
It's madness, right?!!! :D
This has really opened my eyes to pro acryl paints. I'll start buying them
Got a bottle of bold titanium white for Xmas and it was a game changer for me. Just received my delivery of the Pro Acryl starter set.
I think a painting competition like he describes would be a great TH-cam series. Like Bake Off but painting miniatures.
1:28:00 in, thanks Ninjon I totally agree. I have a roll of parchment paper on my desk and it's fresh paper each day
Thanks to Jason and Monument Hobbies my wife now hates my hobby......😂😂 Customer for life regardless which pair of pants my wife tells me to put on!
These are the testimonials that keep us going! :D
I hate the fact that it was Scott's comment about their upcoming G-string merchandise that got me to click the 'like' button.
We don't kink shame... :D
Thank all of you for what you do for our hobby!
I tried and failed hard using a wet palette. I follow Dr Faust and he uses a cold palette. Basically just a 6"x6" white ceramic tile on an ice pack. It keeps the paint just moist enough to get me through a couple of hours of mini painting and the dried paint washes off super easy with warm water.
I'm team No Wet Palette! Dr. Faust's cold palette FTW!
I purchased some Bomb-Wick brushes back in the day (watched Jason on a Next Level Painting stream, I'm pretty sure)
Jason's mic boom is comically long. Is it because he's just that much of a badass? It's like the lowrider of mic booms. Another great episode.Cheers gentlemen
Haha, there just isn't a great way to sneak a mic into the person sitting in the middle.
The cherubs could be caryatids on that triumph.
I love my PA paints. Also the diaper discussion was outstanding
The horror... :D
"Melee weapons are not good in Necromunda" Oh Scott you sweet summer child! 🤣
Dr. Faust uses a ceramic tile on top of a ice pack.
As a general rule of thumb, if something works for a bunch of people but doesn't work for you, that doesn't mean it doesn't work.
Yesssss military line pls
Grendailer minis are a classic jam
I didn't understand the name of the sculptor at the beginning of the preamble, the one Ninjon bought an army from. Can someone tell me his name ?
Spira Mirabilis
omg thanks, was looking for it too, couldn't understand even slowed down.
Do people read the instructions with wet palette paper? Because it never curls on me. I hear that complaint all the time though.
The Duncan Rhoades line is GW with awful bottles imo. Every one I have weeps, traps air, and explodes on the pallette. It was a little disappointing having waited for the Kickstarter and production issues.
Now those proacryl ones.... They be pretty swish
One of my favorite house rules for Necromunda is that since gangers aren't known for their self control, in order not to shoot a plasma weapon on full power you have to pass a cool check for the model.
hahahahaha
cool!
So, when is the guest chair getting an upgrade?
I wish Monument made a wet pallet, but after this podcast, that likely won’t happen lol
Eh, you never know! Jordan uses one all the time, so we might toss a design around.
Great opportunity to paint a mini only in ProAcryl today. Got one question, is there a trick for using ProAcryl on rattlecan primer? Have been adding golden medium, but it still doesn’t wanna adhere to it. (no issues with Vallejo and AP) Love ProAcryl for the gorgeous hues, (got base set, transparent, John and Vince) would like to get more, but I‘m often too lazy to zenithal prime with my airbrush.
Rattle can primers in the winter months especially, can have mixing issues. If it comes out anything other than true matte finish, then our paints may seem to pool a bit on the first layer. No biggie, just do a light coat for the base, let it dry, then go for coverage on the second pass. Our paints have a longer open time and don't like "waxy" surfaces that some more satin primers give.
@@MonumentHobbies thx for your answer. Btw I like the Monument primers and am currently waiting for a shipment of Glaze/Wash medium and Newsh, looking forward! PK-Pro in Germany has been a great source, if you‘d eventually find a partner in Austria it would be awesome. (Like Siren Games in Vienna, S-Games Neustadt, or Ganes Toys n More in Linz)
Have your local(ish) game stores reach out to PK-Pro or Wayland Games. They are our distributors to other retailers in the EU as well.@@sebastianwei7721
"There's nerds everywhere. You just need to open your mouth to find them." Nice! #SoTrue
One question about the hobby. It's a little off topic. What program do you use to edit your videos?
I really like monument paints, i find the bottles are just a little too hard to squeeze. I have issues with carpal tunnel and arthritis though.
we've redone the formula on the actual bottle plastic to be a bit more squishy, so you'll see newer bottles be much easier!
@@MonumentHobbies that’s fantastic! I need your titanium white and a few more of the grey colours
Is the brush soap made from animal fat? I got some and it's really revolting to look at lol. Would have got something else if I'd known
It's interesting hearing peoples various reasons for enjoying a game. Thinking specifically of Scott's comment on Godtear (a game I enjoy quite a lot), I'm always there for the game first. Yes, theme and setting are extremely important (I love Fantasy, SciFi, Post Apoc, Cyber Punk, etc. and won't go near a true historical setting), but I don't care about the narrative or the story of the game (the why behind the conflict).
I think it's why I struggle to really get into true minis games (like WarCry or RelicBlade for example). I do enjoy them both, but will almost always opt for a skirmish board game as they have a tighter more tactical gameplay experience (imo of course, lol).
A narrative is fun to have and a big bonus, especially in a cooperative experience, but isn't something i really care about in the competitive games I play.
Army painter speed paint 1.0 flaw = newsh success! Smart
Trapped Under Plastic: the podcast where the guests don’t read the contract and end up paying for the fruit trays.
You gotta pay attention to the fine print...
As a Canadian, who are "the Canadian guys"
Shutter Bombs or Enola Gaye have the items you seek. Always have a couple smokes in case you need to break contact.
I shit you not I live and work 5-10 minutes from Jim jones hometown and I truly believe this area will produce another
It would be great if someone kitbashed, Lion El Richie. With darked complexion and moustache.
Grenadier!!!
Am I completely batshit if I use both wet palettes and dry palettes?
Nope! Right tool, right time is the way to do it!
Hon was life
oh no...I DO feel empowered lol
Bedt quote "There are nerds everywhere, you just need to open your mouth to find them."
"Melee weapons are not a good thing in Necromunda." -Scott
My Corpse Grinder Cult would like a word.
I have yet to experience the brutality of a corpse grinder gang! You may be right..
Scott.. are you Bobcat Goldwaith's secret lovechild?
PNT WZRD!
Who's the Canadian guys?
14:26 Scotts issue with the role playing aspect of his cult leaders is the same problem I have playing Orks... I also happen to have a strongly chaotic/orkish mentality which doesn't help
bro ask him why my paint acts hydrophobic?? it's been sitting on my shelf ever since I first tried it and hated it!!
Our paints don't need anywhere near as much water to thin. If you mean when putting over spray can primer, and seeing the paint pulling into droplets, it's due to the primer not being mixed properly. Our paints react quicker to waxy surfaces due to the longer dry time. A second coat will start covering great though, just need to defeat the surface issues on the prime coat. After that, no prob at all!
Speaking of the cold pallete: th-cam.com/video/jYvr_Z64EZI/w-d-xo.html
We all know Jason never finishs an army........
can't take you guys haircuts anymore
1:43:00 Yeah. For someone making paint he doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. Paste-based paint? Paint stays exactly like it is in the bottle on a dry palette. I'm all for people having a preference and what works for them. I dislike when they try to justify it with something other than just saying that it works for their workflow.
Whoops, I put the end of the video timecode. It was like, 1:25:00
Also, I use a piece of parchment paper, which is even cheaper than Red Grass, and I wash it between sessions. It doesn't take much and it delays when I have to cut a bunch more sheets. I found the OG red grass paper was never to my liking.
You missed the point of the statement. Tube acrylics (what I refer to as paste acrylics) need to be thinned to get to the consistency you want for painting smaller 3D details. That's the whole reason our industry uses liquid acrylics to get you past that point right out of the bottle. Ours are just a further step there. Damp brush + paint = what you need. No need to fuss about on the palette like some others. You leave the paint on the palette exactly as it came out of the bottle like you say, which gives you much better capability than if it's being thinned constantly due to over hidration on a wet palette or if you thin it directly on the palette by other means.
@@MonumentHobbies the same principle that keeps a blob of paint from drying out too fast on a hard palette keeps it from absorbing water too fast on a wet palette. It's fine to prefer hard palettes. When I was using lots of different paints I preferred palettes with paint wells. I'd never tell someone that their paints aren't suited or they're doing it wrong.