What the Heck is Going On With Pokémon GO Raids??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- Niantic quietly made changes to Raid Battles recently in Pokémon GO, causing chaos and turmoil within the Pokémon GO Community. These gameplay changes may seem subtle, but it is forcing players to rethink how they approach tackling Legendary Raid Bosses. This is something that we need to talk about!
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Niantic 100% waited until their no refund policy was signed and approved before making these alterations
I genuinely think niantic hate their playerbase sometimes
They really do. 😂😂😂
Groudon hitting me with 4 back to back solar beam to kill over half of my team...
exactly 😂😂
Groudon spams solar beam and kills your pokemon before they can even spawn in on the screen.
Good
I once saw a video that mega venasuar can solo groudon. but that video is outdated now. I tried to fight groudon in the new system without success.
For real. While our mons charged attacks will not register even if the attack was released just before your mon dies
@@kentrodrigoroble8822 that is insane. I really hope Pokemon go fixes the glitches or I'm probably going to quit.
@@kentrodrigoroble8822 Also I really think pokemon go should promote more solo raiding. It would allow an incentive to level up Pokemon and let people in rural areas to actually enjoy the game.
Let’s make raids harder so they go to the dynamax raids.- niantic maybe
@@dred500 I just started pokemon go a year back and now it's impossible to get legendaries
Dodging not gonna work in raid anymore. The raid boss stand there and do nothing... and your HP dropped automatically (Boss hidden attack). This is not increasing difficulty but... they ruined it.
I thought it was my connection or the weather. Now I'm aware it's not just me.
I hate when games 'fix' abilities in games that nerfs your characters / builds, rendering all of your past effort irrelevant. Niantic is grossly over estimating how many people have access to large groups for raids. Even in a city, it's not always feasible to get through rush hour traffic to find a large group for raid hour. Even if you have a couple of friends or are fortunate enough to meet a couple of local players, if three or four people aren't enough for some raids, then there's no point in them spawning in scattered locations all week long. Frustrating.
Yeah I agree I can only play with 2 other players most of the time so if I can't take down a raid with 3 players then I don't even bother most of the time 😢
You will never have known pain until you experience the 6X Rainy Weather Kyogre Surf
😢😢😢 ikr this is real pain
I know it, still downed it...had to revive 2times all mons...like everybody else.
And back to back Solarbean groudon
couldn't be more on point 🤣🤣🤣
@dkzryan my friend and I were using mega rayquaza and rayquaza against solarbeam groudon with some dodging and we've had no issues. I do have to agree tho that the raid bosses constantly spamming charge moves is dumb. Cause it forces us to dodge a lot more and in general makes raids a lot more harder than they need to be
You’re crazy if you haven’t noticed the raid changes. Dodging is terrible and you get spammed with charge moves. Luckily I live in a city with a big group of raiders but I couldn’t imagine beating legendary raids with a small group.
Level 48 with multiple maxed out pokemon btw. Just for reference
I literally just spam dodge after each attack and will rarely white out. Raid size 5-10 generally.
I'm new to the game, and raiding is pretty east with the Discord/Fb groups. They are international so you can always find 5 people awake who want to join. You find the raid, go to it, post "Anyone want a Groudon, FC # XXXXX, Add me." Accept the friend requests. Join the raid, send your 5 invites. Bingo - At least 6 people to take down the raid. Victory for all.
@@gafee2001 yeah, I use poke genie and it takes at most 15 min wait. I just walk around and catch while I wait
And dodging does nothing. The damage shows up late like courier drivers
Crazy? Nah, just not raiding T5s. Lucario raids for me and been doing max battles otherwise.
I relearned the dodge windows of the bugged raid battles only for it become even more bugged and have the charge moves become invisible. I love seeing the Groudon stare at me into implosion.
@@ItzMiKeKirbY happens to me too. All my mamoswines died, and no matter how much damage I do the damage seems less than pokemon go before.
Raids are literally unplayable, groudon spams solar beam constantly
I have been taking groudon down with only a 4 person team I may try 3 tomorrow. I like having to use new out of the box Pokemon like exeggutor and porygon 😄
Having been playing for less than a year, and mostly free-to-play(so not really grinding to get all the top Pokémon), I had just gotten to the point where I solo tier-3 raid, or duo a mega or legendary with someone. So it was really frustrating to have all of that changed with no notice. I’m all for games being a challenge, but this felt overboard.
5. Star raids are now not worth doing due to how the bosses charge attacks are spammed.
I got so many disconnection mid-raids. I can push button to rejoin but it is mood killer.
Most of the time boss model was frozen and has no animation.
It has no warning text or screen flashing at all when bosses do the charged atk. I don't know when to swipe to dodge.
My mons die before I know what move boss just threw.
And bosses energy generation does not make any sense.
I used to encounter x3 earthquake or blizzard from Groudon and Kyogre RIGHT WHEN THE RAID STARTS. That's insane.
My community has practically stopped doing raids and gathering. Nobody seems to care about the community days and events don't motivate them at all.
The old Niantic always gave us a heads up on huge changes. It's clear that they've gotten so big that they don't care to do so anymore.
I'd say it's screwed up because we got the new dynamax raids that are completely different. That plus, well, Niantic...
I think they did it on purpose, they made a tweet about the new raid changes
The changes are a disgrace. I dont mind if they change mechanics if they make it more fun or intuitive. But changing what pokemon are good for raids is unacceptable
its also seem niantic drop the rate of revive and charge Tm
If you don't understand why they have issues communicating its because they have too many cooks in the kitchen and no one knows whats going on
Not trying to be rude, MANY Dev teams are this
I still can easily do a groudon trio with a 60-90 seconds left, but bro, death count is ridiculous. The sheer amount of powerful charge moves it launches is devastating and my storage after the raid changes into a hospital.
That’s pretty good if you are free to play. That means you have powerful Pokémon and you did it all yourself.
But if you are pay to win, then I take the credit back lol.
@@Miklo_1 I'm free to play. The only money I spend in the game are big annual events, like Go Fest.
I cant imagine being ftp in this game. I would die of boredom. If you want those hundo legendaries and at lvl 50 you have to pay. Maybe ask daddy for an allowance @Miklo_1
not only that, but I have noticed the IVs you are getting have gotten noticeably worse lately. hundred Kyogre and Groudon raids and the best I gotten is one 96. and a ton of low 80s. just garbage
that's just luck based, stats to get a hundo is 1/216. so 100 raids and get a 96% is still pretty good.
That's actually depending on how many raids you do. The more raids you do, the worse IVs you get, the least raids you do (specially if you skip a daily to do 2 the next day) you get significantly better IVs.
I had groudon with earthquake and solarbeam...those were tearing people up... its charged attack after charged attack, boom boom and few mons gone. People wasted so many revives but we did take it down with pain...6people per raid. Its for sure broken.
The lack of communication from Niantic is nothing new and has been a problem for at least 5 years if not a problem since the beginning of the game and this should not be the case. Every event people need to rely on dataminers just to get a basic idea of how event go from how to evolve some of the new pokemon that have odd requirements like Malamar and Galarian Yamask to the fact that some pokemon are just locked behind only being able to get them from research tasks. Every Go Fest and events like it I hear nothing but bugs and general problems with being able to play the game at all which can affect people's plans for the day. These sudden changes to raids are honestly just further decreasing the chances of me ever spending money on this game just because they are constantly refusing to deliver a quality product.
I raided against a Groudon that was using Earthquake as its fast move. Good thing we had 10 people in but for the amount of trainers it took way to long to finish.
I get some of that, the wife and I like the games but we are late 60's with health issues. Many things are hard to complete with shaky hands and living in a rural area. Get 500 excellent throws, spin 50 pokestop,catch 280 sinnoh , etc. Not friendly for your older players. Driving 35 minutes into Baltimore, the crime capital of the East coast, to play when it is known they attack attack
No issue with the meta shift. Barely anything is less powerful, but other things have just overtaken the existing meta. More options is great. The charge move spam is absolutely ridiculous and needs reverting.
@@sqsqct4734 I'm actually a little excited to be able to use my favorite pokemon Excadrill in raids
Start from scratch... exactly. Not only did my top pokemon become irrelevant, my entire PvP team did too. I'm so disappointed. I basically have to start again... it took me about 6 months to build my teams and to start again is really discouraging.
With a game as old as this game it’s embarrassing how un-polished and glitchy it is. I’m glad that I haven’t spent much money playing pogo
4 back-to-back Solarbeams from Groudon…FOH 😑😑😑
It’s so frustrating.
are we not going to talk about how pokemon power spot raids are glitching out and basically has an issue where you can enter the raid multiple times by accident where between the finish of the countdown and the loading in to the raid you can enter the power spot a second time and it causes a glitched out state. this has happened to me multiple times already during the beldum raid where i literally had to give up the raid and redo it 5 times to get a one with the glitched up screen. it has only started since the beldum update for raiding
I'm using top max level counter Pokémons for raids n burnt more than 300 revives in the last 4 days.
N barely get any revives from spinning stops n raids.
They really need to fix them: Groudon would hit with Earthquake I couldn't even see to dodge
Spamming charge moves is one thing but I not getting the animation for them is brutal
is it so hard to say over the next few weeks we are making some changes to raid battle mechanics and there will be changes in which Pokemon are the most effective when doing raids.
With a game as old as this game it’s embarrassing how un-polished and glitchy it is. I’m glad that I haven’t spent much money playing pogo
Also, has party play ever actually worked without bugs for anyone?
im not raiding untill they make it doable for 4 to 5 trainers with ok teams like it was before. there is no point in tryin anymore. we are just not gonna be able to take em down anymore with just 4 to 5 accounts.
Yea, if they're gonna change raids this much they needed to give us an updated attackers tier list for us to prepare IMO
Kleavor spam charge move back to back the whole match
The raid shouldn’t be difficult, it should reward players for making an effort raiding and spending a lot of time catching mons. The fun is gone, the game is just frustrating and stressful. Add to that the game crashing all the time. Such a mess.
Wait, so the charged attacks in raids are intentional!? Groudon is meant to take out my whole team in 20 sec????
There went a quick million stardust to adjust to this
I look forward to your reevaluated list of the "new" best raid strategy and Pokemon.
Raids do seem bugged at time. I have an almost level 48 account with multiple level 50 counters and I couldn't duo Groudon with a friend due to multiple laggy earthquakes in a row and ghost attacks. I had to invite an also 48 level friend so we could trio. The next day a friend with a weaker account made a video of him duo'ing Groudon with Earthquake and there's no way it was the same raid, he was barely getting attacked when I was getting spammed earthquake by earthquake.
I just wonder if this "change" is a bug/glitch that was brought out by Dynamax... where Niantic didn't intentionally make the raids harder, but the game is harder and they're kind of happy with it, so it became a "feature". I don't mind a somewhat harder raid... especially since many of us have built out mons, but for the newer players and rural players, this is probably TOO hard...
offering a different perspective, not negating the frustration out there. The extra challenge that is easily overcome with skill level increases is kind of refreshing. having to use the dodge mechanic rather than mindlessly tap til its down is actually more fun to do. not trying to convince anyone just again offering a different perspective. if we know they are charged to do 4 in a row, i dodge four in a row then continue power attacks so i dont get caught mid animation. It waters down the accomplishment if its completely easy. But your point on doing more to give people a reason to team up is needed. Remote raids countered that, people sitting in cars or on couch too much now. (not everyone lol but a lot)
Its really sad because I was excited about dynamax raids and then this happened and it just kinda took my motivation away to do much at all in this game. I am a level 48 player thats played for a while.
I’ve been avoiding normal raids like the plague, I wanted try to get another shiny kyorge & groudon but I find them too troubling to do without like 10-20 ppl. sure i’ve completed a few in low player lobbies 4-7 but most of those lobbies are filled with High / Max lvl players
8 yrs is a long time. advanced condolence niantic
Let me state this, kyogre done 0/3 and groudon done 1/1 and we can't help new players get either one, because if we raid with them, we don't have any chance to kill it, we need others with top tier pokemon and revives to get it done... all our katagami (even the hundo of one of us) are useless and we don't have enough stardust and candy to get the new "best" up to 40 ... just incredible, hoped to help 3-5 people to get them there first kyogre/Groudon ... tried on Kyogre couldn't help now with groudon we didn't try and the raid with another high lvl player got down to 30 seconds because of Solar beam spam ... you can't even dodge... worthless to raid at the moment.
It sucks. For over two months. I can't get my friendship hearts when I raid. Can't get any help from them. So yeah game sucks.
Zekrom and Reshiram getting nerfed was the last straw for me Count, that was the moment i said “Yup, Exile it is”
How did they get nerfed?
@@tonyfranco6155 because they changed the timing of fast and charged moves, as a result for Reshiram Fire Fang got nerfed and since fire spin got buffed and Reshiram can’t learn fire spin so it dropped in the meta , for Zekrom charge beam got a little buff, but Spark got a HUGE buff and as a result a whole bunch of other electric type Pokémon got stronger than Zekrom atm, and Nerfantic refuses to give Zekrom Thunder Fang so it CAN be the strongest electric Pokémon
The sweet spot seems like 5 or 6 trainers. Usually have about half the timer left but yes you do use alot of heals
Raids are suuuper broken i been sayin it since xerneas, but its gotten worst since then imo and its making the game a bit frustrating on that front, wether it be the raid itself or the catching part of the raid 🤦🏿♂️
It's been changed in a way that you have to have alot of people and it's annoying
Why do we have to pay for elite raids now? They are making me buy premium battle passes when I get to gyms.
I really wish some one on the inside was successful in leaking important information
lol - NIA must have thought nobody would be raiding because we’d be so hype for max battles… Oops! 😂
Niantic doesn’t understand that doubling the price to raid affected the community. A exciting part of the game was seeing so many players inside the lobby ready to take down the boss Working together as a community. Or even if someone invites you that feeling that you are gonna help them. But now it’s too expensive. It’s a scam now. They want you to pay to win.
I agree we should have been updated prior to the change. But change is good it has been the same like you said. So making other Pokemon more relevant brings a new challenge.
I know y! There do it, makes the Raid harder kill your Pokemon and then you got to buy more revives....( They want you to buy more revives)
Jokes on u, I grind a lot of potions and revives
I had a groudon spam fire blast. Back to back. Spent more time dodging than attacking.
I played a groudon .. there wee 4 in lobby. but i can see any players maybe they are in the bush or up in the tree or in the air. my point is i can't coordinate with them. Groudon go down with 170 sec left. maybe niantic make it easy for some country
To be honest... I must be lucky for being a new player, but for me there aren't huge changes. I don't have really invested mons. I just open poke genie and easily win any groudon raid with 5 other players... But I get everybody's concern.
I could tell a huge difference in Garchomp when my wife and I battled shadow Raikou last weekend. He is crazy beast mode now compared to Groudon.
I think Niantic made more changes recently again, it could just be me but they definitely buffed beldums damage, lv 40 zard can solo and always ended up at 70% ish hp when I knock it out, today I battled a few beldums and after I ended my zard was at about 35%. throwing balls is different now too like it was harder to hit pokemon with excellent throws. beldums damage was also not very consistent either
please make a video about how you need to raid to be effective. I have no idea, I just tap and spam charged attacks without dodging still, but I cant keep raiding and losing 2 teams of pokemons.....
It’s all weird and especially because they made sure to protect themselves from the player base with that updated policy. And how they’re gonna give us a 5 minute video on D-Max but they hardly want to acknowledge that they’ve reck Raiding it’s okay for new things to come in the game that’s how it’ll be relevant but basically disregarding all the effort we’ve put in the game in really disappointing and disrespectful behavior
Was anything actually nerfed to irrelevence?
just imagine they take the max raid mechanics to regular raids Does that mean the end of remote raiding ?
Dodging isn't practical with the lag. Having purchased 3 phones to keep up with mobile games. My new s24+ with the fastest speeds still cannot keep from overheating. Raids become less fun when it becomes competition. There is no competition there is no dodging. Thermal heat wins.
Oh is that what happened on Wednesday? xD We did two Groudons during raid hour. First one went about like normal. Second one hit me with solar beam for four pokemon before they could even load into the battle. xD I went through so many teams of pokes for that battle. I would like to know what has actually changed. It wasn't obvious during raid hour, just thought I got unlucky with second one's move set.
Making us use dodge more is fine. But to have them spam their charge attack makes no sense
Yeah idk if this has happened to anyone else but whenever I go into a raid lobby, and I do said raid I start t walk away, and whenever I faint out I’m like “ok I’ll just relobby” that’s fine but then it says “walk closer to interact with this gym” it’s just so annoying
@@Rimuru187 I agree
I pass completely on all raids.
i think this is because of the dynamax monsters. I still believe they will allow dynamax pokemons to be used in raids, and if the raid battle stays the same, it will be much easier once dynamax was implemented. I think it will be possible to solo most of the legendary raids once dynamax were allowed and no changes have been made
Groudon with fast attack earthquake sucked… We had seven people, and we failed the raid.
Do you dodge?
@@joshuadevaughn8613 yes I know I was but the the delay of damage that was happening didn’t really matter. It was just that the earthquakes were happening quick like one after another.
@@rebeccahvanzanten4743 yeah, I completely put damage as a secondary and stay alive. I guess that means my raid mates are dieing more but maybe they should dodge too. The bosses still die before half time.
I had this same problem with Groudon and Kyogre as well
I've noticed recently since Kyogre & Groudon returned that more 5* raids have been popping up more & more like that's all I've been seeing lately but YET..... We can only do 5 remotes a day???? I'm sorry but it's not like I can just waffle raid whenever with groups let alone just walking to gyms with just 2 phones to DUO. Idk the whole system is trash 🗑️
Idk I can't even remember the last time I did a raid lol
Dope vid Count, glad I’m in exile atm 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥
GBL is crazy broken right now. Yes. Even more than normal. There’s a visual glitch that makes opposing Pokémon use your fast move animation. For example. I have Ho-oh they have mewtwo and their psycho cuts are mini incinerates. Mewtwo sligning fireballs at Ho-oh is wild. It’s pathetic
Raids too
Great video
bad day indeed i lost my pokemon go account to a hacker =(
The Go Battle Lag has never run worse than it does now. Never really lost due to lag spikes until recently. Now it's common. I also haven't done a single raid since people have started complaining about performance there too. It's already a gamble when the pokemon can flee but now it can also be bogged down by performance issues where it likely results in a loss before the catch phase?! No thanks. I think experiencing the worst GBL performance ever has caused me to have little interest in raiding. When people are claiming that raids have never performed worse, I can believe it.
U were ALWAYS able to play alone. When I returned to pikemon go(the only pokemon game I know) after 2-3 yrs off. It's IMPOSSIBLE to be a lone wolf player. U HAVE to be part of a group now. (Maybe u did b4) but I was only a collector b4. Now I do alot more raids and events.
Where are the positive vibes you were giving. You said you were sending positive vibes. 😮
I finally got a kartana recently but now shadow cacturne is better and it does not even have a grass fast move. 🙀???
I was actually excited to be able to use kartana when it was strong. Now there's no point in using it.
The changes are good having the same pokemon on top forever makes the game boring its. It seems like they are making more community driven and strat change is good you can't always Cry because now you have to mix it up
More and more people are going to go free to play and niantic deserves it
Lets not talk about the bs dynamax
The joke's on Niantic because I didn't know raids were busted since I haven't raided since early March because they broke me as a player. I have no idea how Dynamax works. I don't know what events are happening or coming up. I don't remember the last time I completed my weekly research, claimed the other research rewards and I have yet to claim my Ace GBL stardust and Elite TM. I don't open or send gifts. I forgot about the last 2 community days and when I do play those, it's only for about 15 minutes now versus always doing the full 3 hours (and 6 before that).
Im new to Pokémon go. I have no problem buying remote raid passes but I don’t know how to find active players. I live in a small town with very little gyms. Where can I find groups for raids?
Bout time someone made a video about it.. it's a complete joke
The meme of; haha (raid boss) spamming charge moves go brrr is real now
Ugh ok
for me it is the complete randomness of the moves happening and the animation and also the prompt telling you that the boss used it's move.
honestly sometimes you never get any of the above and suddenly your mon's health is just deleted with no audio or visual feedback.
or sometimes you get the prompt, the growl of the boss, the visual attack pose from the boss and even the attack animation lands.
still it sometimes takes extra 2-4 seconds before the actual attack lands.
this becomes an issue when you dodge in time and start to attack back, only then to see your mon die like as if my Kyogre just hit that Origin pulse on his own face or something.
still these Groudon raids have been way easier than Kyogre with blizzard as it's "fast attack".
sure these Groudon raids are still doable with 3 people with the right counters at lvl40-lvl50 and i was crazy enough to go and do 4 man raid with complete strangers at lvl43 or lower (i'm at lvl50)
it did go down to 60 seconds and i have no idea of their teams or attacks, but it is still doable even with the old meta as i haven't bothered to burn dust for new teams.
The game is dead , everything is only money for niactic, everyone is getting ban
Coming from someone that raids in a small group I haven't really noticed a difference.
Hmm… raids have gotten way easier than in 2018 and it’s because of Best Friend bonuses and mega pokemon.
Making them harder might mean more in-person raiders required to take down the boss.
I personally haven’t noticed because raid bosses are boring lately and I’ve only done a few Lucario raids in the past few weeks.
I don't actually mind the slight raid meta shift so more than just the same 18 pokemon types are considered the 'best'. I think if we have slight shifts in the meta every couple of years, it will help to keep things fresh in terms of raiding, since we end up raiding the same pokemon over & over & over again, with very few exceptions each year.
What I do mind is how insanely overpowered the raid bosses are now in terms of charged attacks- you enter a raid & it essentially feels like the pokemon you take in are little more than cannon fodder for constant back-to-back charge attacks.
It's disheartening when I have a bunch of different old & new meta raiders powered up to between lv40 & lv50.5 but I'm lucky if my high powered meta pokemon are able to get off more than a single charge attack before they faint as the raid bosses now throw charge attacks like they are quick attacks. It's so bad I haven't bothered with raid hour or even raiding much at all for the last few weeks.
I could understand the power shift if level 60 had been announced or if they are planning to 'surprise' us with a trainer level increase before the years end, but I distinctly recall someone from Niantic saying something like 'not enough of the player base were at level 50 yet for them to be actively working on an increase to trainer levels' (or words to that effect) when they were asked that question during an interview or Q & A not too long ago.