I knew it was going to be a challenge to capture the subtle differences in exhaust note between the two bikes, so I just did the best I could! The 2012 definitely has a much lovelier note and it is a bit louder too. I could open the holes up even more if I ever want to turn up the volume some more. All in all I'm very pleased! Please like, share, and subscribe and we'll have more videos out soon.
Thanks! I've just purchased a drone, and will be filming in the air next spring. I've got one vid up and another coming that really show off just how spectacular Utah is!
Thanks for the videos, informative and entertaining. On my second K1600, and always gone main dealer with my bikes, for the big jobs but maintained my own cars. Think I'll give the the big jobs a go, with your videos for guidance. Thanks again 😁
Love it Jay! Thinking about doing this to my GTL but wish there was a way to plug the holes to make the tone adjustable and stock sounding again like I did to my Goldwing. I posted a vid of me doing that but on a GW the muffler end caps come off giving access to the flat muffler ends. "Liked" your vid!🦾
Sounds good. I may have to do the same with mine. Remember; the ‘12 has bigger balls too. Not a big difference but without a k note BrenTune the ‘20 will not catch it. Largely due to emissions hardware, etc. Strange looking rear tire tho. Looks like it came off a ‘50’s 1 ton IH truck. Definitely dosen’t look like a Pirelli Angel GT 2.
Not for me. I never noticed there was some sort of flap in the two original fake outlet, I suppose to stop detritus. I'll have to take a look🤔. Sometimes less is more; when you wind up the 1600 engine with the factory exhaust it still sounds like a race car to me😉
And that's why I don't want to go with a full exhaust. I really just want to adjust the tonal quality, not make it obnoxiously loud. Ok, and I'm cheap, lol!
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure I have about 200Ks on car tires on Honda Goldwings, I just picked up a 2012 K1600 GTL and with 25K on it, when it comes time for a rear tire, I'll be darksiding it. Glad I saw the exhaust mod, I'm doing it tomorrow. Then riding, it will be 80 degrees here in N Tex.
There is a lot of ground between wanting a little more pleasing exhaust note and annoying everyone in a 4 block radius - but you're right, the over-compensation crowd is LARGE... :)
Just to be clear, you punched holes in the top and bottom ports? I have a 10" x 1/2" center punch. Will that work? doesn't it leave debris inside the port?
It is a car tire! But if you're in the UK it is forbidden. The only real difference is at low speeds where it takes a fraction more push to lean the bike into a corner - but it is less likely to want to fall into it. Above 30 mph you can't tell! th-cam.com/video/hz7lDThb9uY/w-d-xo.html
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure i've heard car tires aren't good because the wall of the tire really isn't meant to have the wear you could get from riding I.E. leaning in turns and what not
does the 2012 have a quickshifter? i'm pretty sure the 2020 has it, and i dont really understand missing the 2nd gear on 2020 model and not missing it on the 2012 model :D or how was that even possible... i'm a bit confused :D
Either way, since the change is small I don't expect any real increase or decrease. This was more about changing the tonal quality than any HP bump. It just sounds way better!
I currently run a BF Goodrich 205/50-17 Comp 2 A/S and love it! With this setup on a BMW K1600GT you need to add a 1/4" spacer. A 195 fits just fine though.
Is that a Wunderlich windshield? I just picked up my GTL yesterday and trying to get the grin off my face. I'd like to add a windshield with a vent like yours. The lower vent on my son's Street Glide makes a big difference when it's hot outside.
This one is a Cee Bailey, but I believe they are out of business. I think 7Jurok sells one with the vent. It really does help with cooling and reducing the 'push' from behind when the shield is all the way up.
How much back pressure are you losing? Actually decreases performance. What’s the car tire doing on that bike ! That will really decrease the performance handling!!
Back pressure, if completely eliminated only hurts the low end. This doesn't decrease it that much. As for the car tire, above 30 mph you can't tell it's there. And if you watch some of my videos in the mountains, you can verify that as well!
Half the cost, 4 times the tread life and no difference in feel above 30 mph. In parking lots, the bike doesn't want to fall over anymore, andi it only takes a teeny bit more steering effort at low speeds. Still able to outrun sport bikes in the twisties too!
Yup, so much longer tread life. The factory tire on the 2020 only made it 3600 miles. The car tire went 15000 and was half the money. And amazingly you can't tell it's there above 20 or 30 mph.
Good video. Thank you. I saw this vid. and went to punch out a hole on k1600b 2020. Exhaust is soft and it bended (inward. did not open like yours). I then used drill to remove the top and bottom pipes completely (used grinder too). I kept middle piece so that I can mount back the oem back ring with two screws. Have not gotten a chance to ride yet but it is definitely louder. I hope it won't be too loud. If it is, I can always purchase oem exhaust. Nothing special. I just did not like the winning engine sound. Good luck.
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I knew it was going to be a challenge to capture the subtle differences in exhaust note between the two bikes, so I just did the best I could! The 2012 definitely has a much lovelier note and it is a bit louder too. I could open the holes up even more if I ever want to turn up the volume some more. All in all I'm very pleased! Please like, share, and subscribe and we'll have more videos out soon.
thanks for sharing great tip to get better sound from exhaust.
Oh my, the scenery when riding was absolutely stunning
Thanks! I've just purchased a drone, and will be filming in the air next spring. I've got one vid up and another coming that really show off just how spectacular Utah is!
Thanks for the videos, informative and entertaining. On my second K1600, and always gone main dealer with my bikes, for the big jobs but maintained my own cars. Think I'll give the the big jobs a go, with your videos for guidance. Thanks again 😁
Great! Glad I could help. Thanks for watching!
I forgot about this. Doing it after work tonight!!
Love it Jay! Thinking about doing this to my GTL but wish there was a way to plug the holes to make the tone adjustable and stock sounding again like I did to my Goldwing. I posted a vid of me doing that but on a GW the muffler end caps come off giving access to the flat muffler ends. "Liked" your vid!🦾
Sounds good. I may have to do the same with mine. Remember; the ‘12 has bigger balls too. Not a big difference but without a k note BrenTune the ‘20 will not catch it. Largely due to emissions hardware, etc. Strange looking rear tire tho. Looks like it came off a ‘50’s 1 ton IH truck. Definitely dosen’t look like a Pirelli Angel GT 2.
I'm planning a video where we run them side by side, and then Brentune the 2020. Stay tuned!
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure have you brentuned stage 2 the 2012 yet? any difference if you did?
Not for me. I never noticed there was some sort of flap in the two original fake outlet, I suppose to stop detritus. I'll have to take a look🤔.
Sometimes less is more; when you wind up the 1600 engine with the factory exhaust it still sounds like a race car to me😉
And that's why I don't want to go with a full exhaust. I really just want to adjust the tonal quality, not make it obnoxiously loud. Ok, and I'm cheap, lol!
A bit raspier without being obnoxious. Open them up a bit more. Sounds good.
I may just have to go for it!
That's what I'm talking about. The Harley slayer! Lol, I liked the way the 2020 sounded better than the '12.
It definitely runs great, that's for sure. I've astonished more than one sport bike rider in the mountains!
Nobody paid attention to the "flat" tyre? For a sidecar or...
Very Nice! I will do that too. Did you remove the baffles before hammering the flaps open?
Makes me want to buy one.
Go for it!
Sounds great
I see you chance rear tire - how many miles long last rear tire is was bald??? what was brand old and what is new? Newer is better grip or what?
Dude, is that a car tire?!?
Yup! You wouldn't believe how well it handles too.
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure I have about 200Ks on car tires on Honda Goldwings, I just picked up a 2012 K1600 GTL and with 25K on it, when it comes time for a rear tire, I'll be darksiding it. Glad I saw the exhaust mod, I'm doing it tomorrow. Then riding, it will be 80 degrees here in N Tex.
Hard to believe there are still guys trolling around out there using exhaust noise trying to get people to notice them.
There is a lot of ground between wanting a little more pleasing exhaust note and annoying everyone in a 4 block radius - but you're right, the over-compensation crowd is LARGE... :)
Just to be clear, you punched holes in the top and bottom ports? I have a 10" x 1/2" center punch. Will that work? doesn't it leave debris inside the port?
Correct. It just opens up the flaps that are pressed together. Any debris will blow out and are harmless.
What is up with the car tire on that bike? Is it even safe on the twisties ?
Are you using car rear tyre? would be interesting to know how is the ride compared to the original tyires
It is a car tire! But if you're in the UK it is forbidden. The only real difference is at low speeds where it takes a fraction more push to lean the bike into a corner - but it is less likely to want to fall into it. Above 30 mph you can't tell! th-cam.com/video/hz7lDThb9uY/w-d-xo.html
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure No bueno. Car tires are for cars.
@@joshrandall5297 Car tires say "For passenger vehicles only." They say nothing about what vehicles they are to be used on. What do you ride?
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure i've heard car tires aren't good because the wall of the tire really isn't meant to have the wear you could get from riding I.E. leaning in turns and what not
does the 2012 have a quickshifter? i'm pretty sure the 2020 has it, and i dont really understand missing the 2nd gear on 2020 model and not missing it on the 2012 model :D
or how was that even possible... i'm a bit confused :D
Bonjour Je suppose que l'aération a été réalisé par vous ???
Does it affect the tuning of the bike otherwise I'm doing it to mine saves spending money on Akraprovic
What war the tourque loss or increase
Either way, since the change is small I don't expect any real increase or decrease. This was more about changing the tonal quality than any HP bump. It just sounds way better!
Why put a car tire on a motorcycle??
4 times the life, half the price and much more load carrying capacity. Plus way better traction in wet, sandy or dirt road conditions.
I did notice some smoke or dust blowing out of the modified exhaust. Have you checked that again? Was the engine cold?
It had been idling for a bit, and prob just had some condensation still in the pipes. Good catch though!
May I know what model are you using for 2020 GT windshield? Look good with airflow windshield
I believe that one is a Cee Bailey which is out of production. I've had it for several years now and bought it used. I love the vent!
thanks for the video, it's great...... Someone knows if this can be done in a 2023?
That bike is a death trap !!!! How can it go around corners with that tyre???
Jay What brand of tire do you have and what size tire is it? and thanks for your videos
I currently run a BF Goodrich 205/50-17 Comp 2 A/S and love it! With this setup on a BMW K1600GT you need to add a 1/4" spacer. A 195 fits just fine though.
Did I see a car tire on GRT6?
Can this be exhaust mod be done on a 2019?
Hi there . Did u punch hole while on motorcycle
You have car tires on your bmw….
why you have a car tire on that
What windshield are you running in this video?
This holes make this silencer sound like old fart
And that is in part due to the Euro 5 emissions timing. When I get the Brentune software, it will restore the engine to the sound of the 2012.
I thought beemer riders were too smart to put a dark side on their bikes.
Nope, we're all idiots for riding...
Is that a Wunderlich windshield? I just picked up my GTL yesterday and trying to get the grin off my face. I'd like to add a windshield with a vent like yours. The lower vent on my son's Street Glide makes a big difference when it's hot outside.
This one is a Cee Bailey, but I believe they are out of business. I think 7Jurok sells one with the vent. It really does help with cooling and reducing the 'push' from behind when the shield is all the way up.
The vent on the Steet Glide is designed to direct the air over your head and reduce buffeting. It's not designed to cool you.
@@joshrandall5297 Understood. But the venturi effect brings cooler air in by the rider. It was a noticeable difference with it open.
Thanks
You're murder on that transmission 🤣😭😢
I know, right? Going back and forth between them was rough in the beginning. I think I got it figured out now.
How much back pressure are you losing?
Actually decreases performance.
What’s the car tire doing on that bike ! That will really decrease the performance handling!!
Back pressure, if completely eliminated only hurts the low end. This doesn't decrease it that much. As for the car tire, above 30 mph you can't tell it's there. And if you watch some of my videos in the mountains, you can verify that as well!
Nice video.
But why do you ride a car tire mounted in the back?
Half the cost, 4 times the tread life and no difference in feel above 30 mph. In parking lots, the bike doesn't want to fall over anymore, andi it only takes a teeny bit more steering effort at low speeds. Still able to outrun sport bikes in the twisties too!
Is that a car tire on the rear?..goin dark side?
Yup, so much longer tread life. The factory tire on the 2020 only made it 3600 miles. The car tire went 15000 and was half the money. And amazingly you can't tell it's there above 20 or 30 mph.
@@JayBearjaysbigadventure ok u convinced me..😀
Car tyre on the rear!
Yup! th-cam.com/video/FSuv3ysiy4I/w-d-xo.html
It’s called the Dark side!
@@sirikulsomsuwan it’s also stupid, and done by people who apparently don’t like leaning over.
What quick shifter do you have on the 2012?
I don't - I just shift without using the clutch. Here's how I do it! th-cam.com/video/CzMRcwFAA4U/w-d-xo.html
Is that bike dark sided too?
The 2020 will be once I do a few more videos in the Spring! And burn the current tire off of it, lol. Should only take 3-4k miles the way I ride!
Is it posible to do this on the 2020 modell also
Yes. All K1600s are the same from that perspective.
Good video. Thank you.
I saw this vid. and went to punch out a hole on k1600b 2020. Exhaust is soft and it bended (inward. did not open like yours). I then used drill to remove the top and bottom pipes completely (used grinder too). I kept middle piece so that I can mount back the oem back ring with two screws. Have not gotten a chance to ride yet but it is definitely louder. I hope it won't be too loud. If it is, I can always purchase oem exhaust. Nothing special. I just did not like the winning engine sound. Good luck.
Good
Thanks
I ride a 2012 and it’s too quiet must try this why no 6 into 1 kits
Oh man, I would LOVE to hear this thing with the modern equivalent of a Kerker 6-into-1! Miss my old 79 CBX...
Definitely the cbx sounds like a f1 with a kerker
Car tire? OMG!