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  • @FishareFriendsNotFood972
    @FishareFriendsNotFood972 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Glad there's a community online these days validating the choices of those children who chose peace and walked away from unhealthy parents

  • @nineteenfortyeight
    @nineteenfortyeight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Some people think parents are "just people" in terms of the moral standards we hold them to, but somehow gods when it comes to the devotion they're entitled to.

    • @diana2063
      @diana2063 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯💯💯💯💯

  • @KirstenAlberts
    @KirstenAlberts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Thank you so much for featuring me on your channel, Jolie! I look forward to seeing more of your work.
    Hugs from South Africa 😉

    • @aws2929
      @aws2929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Thank you for doing all that horrifying research and putting your findings online. This is such an important topic and it needs to be brought to light. Plus your sense of humour and fun personality definitely shine through your work. Hoping for a possible collab video between you two in the future!

    • @WhiskeyRichard.
      @WhiskeyRichard. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm sorry for the "acid hippy" comments... _it's jealousy,_ let's be honest. Thank you for wading through an acidic mire of parental contempt... I mean the same gets me half-dissolved...

    • @OhJoliexox
      @OhJoliexox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You are doing amazing work and I can’t wait to see your channel grow!

    • @KirstenAlberts
      @KirstenAlberts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@WhiskeyRichard. I found your comment hilarious 😂! You’re welcome. Stay remarkable ❤

    • @chancy667
      @chancy667 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I recently found and watch all of your recent videos on estranged parents. Recently after coming out as trans to my mother. I found out she was speaking about me in very similar ways to how you described estranged parents talking about their children and it made me feel awful. Its made me wonder if she's involved herself with groups like these on the internet, unfortunately there's no way for me to know

  • @ashlingren12
    @ashlingren12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    So I didn't see my parents for a bit after I moved in with my partner. He hadn't been around them so he had no idea how they could be. He talked me into trying with them again, and I did. For years. We visited them quite a few times. I just finally realized, and so did he, that there was nothing positive to be gained from being around them, so I went no contact. After a while of me not responding to them, my dad started spinning the narrative that he must be physically abusing me and that's why I cut the cord. It made me SO ANGRY, especially since he was the reason I even tried with them to begin with.

  • @TomFrichek
    @TomFrichek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    "Apparently we're just suing therapists for hearin' things." = my belly chuckle for the morning. Great series you're doing here. I've really been enjoying it and recommended it to a buddy whose dad is treating her like garbage. 10/10 fricheks

  • @findliza
    @findliza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Thank you for making that commentary on adoption too. I’m an adoptee, Adopters are NOT raising their OWN kid. They are raising the child of strangers in most cases, a child who has been through family separation and probably multiple displacements if they aren’t in infancy anymore. It’s not a joke and it’s not a solution for not birthing (for whatever reason) it is a solution for a child who hasn’t been supported to remain with family in their own culture.

  • @dupeaccount1647
    @dupeaccount1647 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I estranged from my dad about 29 years now. I began the estrangement at 15 (saying I didn't want to visit him, my parents were divorced). I'm MTF trans but never would have revealed it to my dad because he said if I was gay or trans he would have "beat it out of me" (paraphrased).

  • @Mychannel67-wh4tc
    @Mychannel67-wh4tc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    estranged parents are convinced it’s a blackmail plot !
    They fail to understand that’s it’s the hardest choice any child makes & there is no bounty.
    They can’t acknowledge the past abuse let alone validate they perpetrated it

  • @VelvetCrone
    @VelvetCrone หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Also, I've observed that going no contact isn't always a one and done thing. Rarely, I'm guessing. The first time I went no contact with my mom was when my adult son was a toddler. It was because of how she talked to him, and about him, in front of him. I went back and forth through periods of years of not talking and then talking. It made me look unstable. In truth, I was. And that fed the gaslighting: my poor skills at caring for myself and setting boundaries. I had to learn to forgive myself for that. I wish I had started earlier, and stayed away. I tried all the things before finally just giving up and ending the relationship. Breaking up is hard to do.

  • @thecryptidfiles8787
    @thecryptidfiles8787 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    3:10:02 After I was heavily medicated and diagnosed as schizoaffective, the amount of gaslighting from my parent(s) has taken until this year to try to undo. My memory is still taken advantage of, but now I don't roll over and go "Fine, ig you're right". I believe myself now.

    • @Mychannel67-wh4tc
      @Mychannel67-wh4tc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good for you, don’t ever not trust yourself. You got this

  • @EctoBabble
    @EctoBabble 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I just wanted to say that I've been trying to cope with my early life and 'how did i end up like this? why am i sick? why do i have this disorder?' and videos like this made me realize just how neglected I was. I thought 'oh yeah, they didn't have time sometimes.' - like no I'm realizing that 'yeah, i was emotionally neglected' but I also was physically neglected too. Like, I understand how I was so hurt - I've been gaslighting myself for decades.

  • @TobiasGray-b8o
    @TobiasGray-b8o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    these parents are heros for doing the bare minimum, but instantly become "just human" when they cause catestrophic destruction to their child

  • @DrCornwater
    @DrCornwater 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Loved your video and these streams. They helped me cope with my recent cutting of contact with my mom, so thank you. Also, (insert bottom text) made me laugh so hard oh my GOSH your kid is so cute lmao

  • @MLangenbroome
    @MLangenbroome 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    15 years ago my paternal grandma made my sister cry while at dinner, by basically calling my mother a wh*re. I called my grandma, told her she can't to or about my family like that. She said I can't talk to her like that. So I didn't. I cut her off then and there. Got married without telling her. Only called once in 15 years to ask if she was ok during Covid. Now she's dead.

  • @kirstinegrndahl7069
    @kirstinegrndahl7069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I just found your channel recently, It's nice to hear a voice of reason in the waves of Ragebait.

  • @wsox20005
    @wsox20005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love how it's always "social media" and "cancel culture" 😂

  • @findliza
    @findliza 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If GPs are gifting a lot, when the parents can’t afford groceries - that’s terroristic demonization

  • @Jazzv13
    @Jazzv13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I grew up south african (now canadian). When I watched her bymyself it was not so shocking - This is normal for grownups of that age to be THAT entitled. Seeing it through your eyes was very validating and affirmed it is not normal!

  • @Jeronimus
    @Jeronimus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When I originally watched this video, the comments about a child being "born evil" really shocked me. I have a baby girl who's 7 months old at this point, and I love her with all my heart. I couldn't possibly imagine ever thinking or saying something like that. Of course, I have to be fair; she's an easy-going and happy baby, but still, I would hope that if it were more difficult, that I'd still love her all the same. Whatever we do for her now is what she needs, and whatever she does, is what she needs to do.
    No doubt I will have a "time to emotionally abuse you!" moment over the following years, but the idea of EVER holding anything a baby does AGAINST THEM later in life is insane to me. Of course they cry!

    • @Mychannel67-wh4tc
      @Mychannel67-wh4tc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have the capacity to love her, I’m sure there will be trauma at some point but you have given her the capacity for empathy & she’ll be fabulous.
      Not all mothers can love which creates attachment disorders like sociopathy.

  • @girlkagamine4193
    @girlkagamine4193 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The whole section about the silent parent hit way too close, it's a bit different because in my case the abusive one is a step-parent so I don't really see them as a parent but yeah, it's sad that I related to that situation

  • @10ch4n
    @10ch4n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    RE 'buying affection' - In younger people or adults that could also be a sign of maladaptation to social norms. Either from their own socialization/parent style or autistic tendencies. *be careful* painting this style of interaction with a broad brush without context to the individual.

    • @katerrinah5442
      @katerrinah5442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for bringing this up. My mum loves me but due to her own trauma/neurodivergence she can't tell me or show me in a normal way. She buys me stuff (pebbling) as a way of showing me she loves me in way that is emotionally safe for her. While I'm working on my own issues it is a behaviour I picked up and do as well.
      I think it's a morally neutral way of showing affection that can be positive or negative depending on the motivations of the person. My mum trying to show she cares for me in a safe way is good. My abusive ex using gifts as a way of manipulating me and leaving me constantly in her debt is bad.

  • @Despe_in
    @Despe_in 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for these streams

  • @WhiskeyRichard.
    @WhiskeyRichard. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just because they're family, doesn't mean they're friends.

  • @andreasvandieaarde
    @andreasvandieaarde 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very disappointed that I couldn't be part of this livestream. I look forward to all of your streams, and this one I know is going to be good (haven't watched it yet).
    Also, can confirm having grown up around Afrikaners and as one myself, Kirsten absolutely has an Afrikaans accent.

  • @airypersiflage
    @airypersiflage 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That birthday card is most excellent, btw. What a hilarious treasure!

  • @camille8099
    @camille8099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ah man my parents were definitely the type to say when I was younger that I was too emotional, never told me how to actually deal with those emotions 😅 The undiagnosed ADHD and the emotional dissregulation that comes with it didn’t help me much either.

  • @denisechandler8990
    @denisechandler8990 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My daughter is estranged from me , the Mom. It’s been around 13 years now. You know I always thought I was a good mom, if someone would have told me this would have happened I wouldn’t believe it. I wish she could have talked to me before this would have happened. Im full of flaws and would have like to work on the ways I failed as a mother. It hurt she never gave me a chance and gave up on me.

    • @OhJoliexox
      @OhJoliexox  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m sorry you’re hurting. All you can do at this point is work on yourself and creating space for healing. I hope for both of you that reconciliation and understanding is possible but it does take both people wanting it. ❤️

  • @strawberryslush5067
    @strawberryslush5067 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the streams!!! One day I’ll make it to a live one… one day

  • @scottydawg1234567
    @scottydawg1234567 หลายเดือนก่อน

    58:14 *looks directly at Mister Spock*

  • @TheOnlyMonroni
    @TheOnlyMonroni 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You've raised a meme master, good job!

  • @zmviolaplayer71
    @zmviolaplayer71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    *paraphrased academic studies, please research more if you want to use this as factual basis*
    So, interestingly there was another study that found that teens/preteens who regularly used marijuana and had a predisposition for ADHD were less likely to have ADHD as an adult.
    Might've even been the same study as the schizophrenia one. Cause the hypothesis for these effects is that schizophrenia is due to too much dopamine in the brain and ADHD is a lack of dopamine. Using marijuana while their brain was developing increased the average dopamine levels in their adult brains.

    • @laurlaurmarmar7697
      @laurlaurmarmar7697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Interested. My own knowledge base says that ADHD is neurodevelopmental and can’t be entirely prevented/cured, nor should anyone be thinking that it can be (not saying you are). Marijuana can significant affect the prefrontal cortex, amygdala, and hippocampus, especially in developing brains.

    • @laurlaurmarmar7697
      @laurlaurmarmar7697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’d also like to see those results replicated many times over before anyone draws the conclusion that marijuana use in adolescent years is more beneficial than harmful in general.

    • @zmviolaplayer71
      @zmviolaplayer71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@laurlaurmarmar7697
      I'm sorry if this is incoherent. My own ADHD has had me type and delete this multiple times and different ways. But, I'm trying to make dinner, my dog is barking at foxes and jumping on me, and I can't focus anymore.
      I need to find that study. I'm curious about study design and want to double check stuff. I have definitely read the same stuff about MJ use as an adolescent. It was definitely one of those studies pointing out a correlation found in data and suggesting possible reasons in order to help future research.
      Just like a meta-analysis I've also read about TBI and ADHD diagnosis. Cause, being diagnosed with ADHD after a TBI is a decently common diagnosis story. There's a definite correlation in the data, but needs more research into potential mechanisms.
      I have typed and deleted a thing extrapolating on the complexities of ADHD while trying not to fall into the "searching for a cure" trap. Also, tying in your own understanding of it. Main thing I want noted: A lot of this research is in very early stages and could turn out that we're looking at two separate things with ADHD as one of them.

    • @lindensalter6713
      @lindensalter6713 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@laurlaurmarmar7697the definition of ADHD from the study I can guarantee is based on if you meet the criteria in the DSM or ICD depending on where the study took place. The criteria in those manuals is based on symptoms that you or those around you observe. It isn’t based on an objective way your brain is more like the best guess we got. There’s reasons that something can cause you to no longer qualify for an ADHD diagnosis that can happen if ADHD is often caused by neurodevelopmental differences.
      It could be that the people who no longer qualified for the diagnosis had symptoms from something other than their brains developing in a ADHD way. Apparently not everyone that has an ADHD diagnosis has a brain that is noticeably different in a “ADHD way” in brain scans and instead could be attributed to other things they’ve found that correlates with ADHD. ADHD broadly means you have difficulty with executive functions to the point of disability and there can be many things that cause that including how your brain naturally develops but also others.
      It’s possible that they still have “ADHD brains” and the marijuana helped them develop coping mechanisms so their differences weren’t disabling enough to qualify for a diagnosis. If your symptoms aren’t impacting your life negatively then most professionals aren’t going to consider you as qualifying for any diagnosis. Your brain type didn’t change just whether it caused you to struggle in a disabling way.
      Those are the 1st 2 reasons I could think of as a layman. There’s probably better ones but I’m not the one to ask for them

    • @justine8387
      @justine8387 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If this was true, wouldn't that mean that ADHD and schizophrenia would be contraindicated? But we see that people with ADHD can have co-occurrence of schizophrenia?

  • @RR-kz4hq
    @RR-kz4hq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Parasocial big sister energy

  • @Seraciel
    @Seraciel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm ASPD, so emotions stuff is not something I'm good at (and I can be a very rude and spiteful person tbh), and yet I feel like I would understand why I could be estranged from my family better than those parents istg
    And also I'm estranged from most of my family… Well, my parents are dead so not them, but my family from the side of my mother is… Something we will say
    But I swear those people who can't reflect on themselves while someone like me who is considered to be a psychopath by many people in my life can, is driving me insane and is so irritating
    Just get a therapist people, it helps

  • @ccchhheeennn2
    @ccchhheeennn2 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    kinda cringey how free Palestine sounded like a "cute thing she made." but aight

    • @OhJoliexox
      @OhJoliexox  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A) I was talking about her MULTIPLE GIFTS, not just one. B) What is cringey? Me talking about the multiple gifts she gave me or a ten year old making a present representing an important message? C) Your moral superiority makes you seem cringey. Get a clue.

    • @ccchhheeennn2
      @ccchhheeennn2 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ the gifts are cute, your daughter isnt to blame… i think making a war trendy is cringe. Thats it. Idk. you should read my comment again- thats funny you got so defensive. Thats exactly what you said talking about her…

    • @ccchhheeennn2
      @ccchhheeennn2 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ you should get a clue sweety. I lost friends and family in this war. You said yourself how politics is also important correct? So im sick of seeing America play this free Palestine as a trophy and not giving a fuck and yeah a kid that says that is sweet but you need to think of the grown up that thought them one side of a horrible lose all war. And before you delete block etc im both jewish and arabic. I lost people from both sides. I am a lefty here. I just think you’re making a mockery of our death and you can deny that however youd like but its not yours to do so. Sorry. It is way more offensive than accidently saying narcissist instead of NPD.

    • @ccchhheeennn2
      @ccchhheeennn2 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hate confrontations so yeah 👍 Im sorry if I sound harsh but again, thats very exclusive hearing that as a viral tweet. Its our lives. Anyway, I didn’t mean to accuse you in malicious intent. I just got the impression that you are fine with self reflection when people question stuff but I guess it was weirdly put. I assume no Arabic and Hebrew will fix that too so, I don’t blame you. I thought you should know that I truly wanted to shed a light on something I see a lot. So in conclusion free the children. Hostages. Everyone. Hope you’re having a good day today, sincerely, I believe it was a communication or perception issue that led this whole exchange.

  • @candaceorr7517
    @candaceorr7517 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can understand why estranged parents have support groups. They typically did not want estrangement. The adult child does, and they say family estrangement is their solution. So why do they need to infiltrate estranged parent groups? What's the point if they are done with parents?

    • @Mychannel67-wh4tc
      @Mychannel67-wh4tc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It validates suspected narcissistic personality disorder.

  • @lenleeforgadventure
    @lenleeforgadventure 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I say this with the utmost kindness and respect, what could you please keep the microphone away from your throat? it's an extreme disgust response for me when I hear noises like swallowing and other ASMR like stimulants. I really enjoy watching your videos and they resonate with me because of my familial experience, but I cannot handle such an intense audio stimulant.

    • @OhJoliexox
      @OhJoliexox  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I will try my best to keep that in mind, but for livestreams I can’t guarantee anything.