You actually introduced me to Nicks. I know own five pair with a couple on order. The brown waxed flesh is hard to break in, but after six months, mine have the softest upper of all of my boots. Their moc toe is amazing.
The Perry Select was designed to address the exact issues mentioned here and elsewhere. The construction is better and the leather options are fantastic. I have the tobacco stampede and am loving that leather. The website pics don't do it justice.
I really enjoy my White's Perry Moc toes. I own 2 pairs already. They are built well and hold up well for work boots. Ordered another pair of the Perry selects. I think its a better boot then the Red Wings. Red Wings are not what they once where. They have cut back on quality materials in the new boots. I am also thinking about a White MP service boot in Kudu leather that just came out. And, Whites will customize boots if you ask them. So, I own Whites and Danner's and Red Wing and even a pair of Thursday's Moc Toes. They are my weekend boots. I think for the price, Whites are best. And, if money is not object, then you get Nicks. Thanks for another nice video..
This comparison is incomplete without adding Frank's Boots into the mix. Frank's has fewer models to choose from compared to White's or Nicks but there are various classic logger-style boots and heritage models to select from, built as-good or better. What sets Franks apart from the other three is customer service and personal attention to fit and styling. Frank still does things the way Nicks USED to do it when Frank was managing things over there, as compared to modern Nicks that seem to give customers more options in lieu of personal service in order to push more sales volume. You know, like White's does, which is ironic given that Frank's way is what used to set them apart and make Nicks really shine.
You should add Franks to the list. Customer service is top notch. Quality is on par, and they have the most custom options vs any of the others mentioned.
I own a pair of JK 300 series and their forefront when I’m on large construction job sites and they’ve been amazing. Truly a “it just keeps getting better” reality in terms of comfort, fit, and aesthetic. For those wondering, upgrading to the forefront is definitely worth it if you’re actually using them daily to work. Otherwise, the 300 is more than enough.
Not sure if anyone will see this or care, but I strongly recommend that people truly understand what they are getting when they buy a PNW boot. He mentioned the break in is tough, and that is no joke! I bought a pair of Franks Patriots, as I had convinced myself that I wanted the toughest boots out there but did not have the money (or courage) to commit to a $600-700 flagship boot. I had to sell them because they were just too much boot. I’m glad I ended up getting the $350 Patriots instead of $600 Superduty, Smoke Jumpers, etc., but I wish I would have just gotten some RW IRs, or Grant Stones, or Jim Greens or something in the first place. I fell victim to the mindset of “gotta buy the best” but the best was more than I needed and really was not well suited to my needs.
For me the biggest reason I went with PNW is the arch support, along with natural material and USA made. I went with Nicks, and love them. Next time I think I'll go with Whites because they claim to have the best arch support.
I own JK bison OT, Whites hand lasted packer ranch boots and Origin work boots. I want a pair of Frank's boots (not sure which model) and want a pair of Nick's tactical military boots.
I have White’s 8 in Perry Select in Tobacco Stampede. I think those boots are pretty good boots imo. I also work in the trades most definitely better than Thorogood’s, Carolina’s. I don’t have any PNW boots to compare them with.
My opinion of my Thorogood boots changed drastically after I tried my first pair of White's. When my Thorogoods fell apart in less than a year, I decided to switch to the Perry Selects. The comfort of these boots is remarkable straight out of the box, and their build quality far surpasses that of the Thorogoods. They make the Thorogood's quality seem comparable to boots you'd find at Walmart. They're so nice that I'm hesitant to even wear them to work, because I don't want to destroy them. I can only imagine the superior quality of a pair of Nick's boots.
HOLY FRIGGIN SPIT!!!!!!! I have never encountered someone who was willing to poopoo the White's Perry with me! It's not the legend that every internet boot wearer claims. Thanks for backing me up. 7:51
A lineman shank is basically an Arch support support. It doesn't replace the midsole it should make the boot far stiffer. It works in tandem with the shank and midsole. Are you sure that's a true lineman shank?
I have a very flat foot and for the longest time I absolutely hated boots because of their stiff arch. I got a pair of JK O.Ts about a month ago and although the break in hurt for about a day because of the arch, they are the most comfortable boots I have ever worn. So much so that I wore them for the entirety of a weekend long Disney trip. Honestly I was super surprised just how much the boots mold to your foot.
Sort of interesting that you are comparing 3 boot manufactures out of Spokane Wa... You missed Franks Boots which is based in Spokane also. Basically all boot manufactures will do customization, leathers, sizes, etc., just let them know... 👍
Generally agree with all of this with the asterisk that the White's MP line is pretty slept on. Nicks are really good but they seems to push harder into their builder pro history than White's does; if you're loking for more heritage stuff, even though Nick's has more interesting leathers, I think the White's lineup with their MPs and similar are more interesting to me from a heritage standpoint. I *want* to like Nicks a little more than I do, but it always seems like everything is V100 sole based. They're all good, but if you're looking for more heritage, I kinda like White's more. White's is more $$$ though.
Could you do a review of Overland’s Cowboy or Telluride boots? Getting a lot of advertisements for them, and they look amazing but would love your review!
I have boots from these three brands, too. I'm not sure that I would say all the exact same things about the brands or the models because I may have slightly different models and things, but I got the OT and will wear them soon, but I wish they were easier to get in the fit proper off the bat and don't need the roughout bottoms, etc., but less jarring for those who don't expect the arch support or want high logger heel? Nick's seem to fit better overall than other two BUT the moc toe is also maybe can come with or without the arch? I know the White's doesn't have and from last vid where I went all thru the selections but don't recall what the final result was but I already have plenty moc toes that I don't need Nick's or RW any time soon, anyway.
I could say a lot more here, I guess. I'm this and that and must point out that Made To Order is a better term than "custom" because they are not fitted and sized the same as true custom shoes, but fun to use the Wesco "custom" menu thing but don't expect to want to wait 18 months for a pair any time soon, but maybe sometime I will order from them and compare. You also didn't go into detail about the tongue protectors and the different outsoles.
I probably should have taken the opportunity to return the White's ones I got for a wider width BUT then that outsole sticks out so far that I'm already afraid to try ever driving in them because I already don't like when some other boot like Thursday gets caught on the brake pedal from underneath, etc.
Nick's: The six month wait wasn't fun but my Tacticals are the best (and most expensive) boots I've ever owned and since I measure myself correctly, they fit like an absolute glove. Unlike the Danner's I used to wear, they're all leather, none of this half leather half nylon nonsense. People on YT have asked me how I was able to to get a pair with composite toe; it appears it's no longer an option. I'll definitely buy another pair (perhaps their work Chelsea). White's: Two pair of moc toes, the Perry Select in Tobacco Stampede and their wedge hybrid in black (and I dyed the stitching to do a blackout look). I tried Red Wings (they have one in Long Beach) and there were just 'meh'; not bad but just wasn't in love with them. Also no long wait time. JKs: Was lucky to get a pair of 300Xs when they were in stock; great customer service and a phone call from them when they shipped. I don't care for the soft toe and really thin tongue that the backing on the hooks was starting to tear apart before I put kilties in them (they were my first pair of 'real' boots). The leather on my pair was really wrinkly (like when your fingers get when you've been in a jacuzzi too long) and I can't get a shine on them and I had a ton of heel slip before adding a new insole. Sadly they're my car wash boot because I don't care if they get wet since they used some sort of heavily oiled tannage...also got a ton of thumb down reviews on their site.
Hey man, I'm looking for the highest quality working boots money can buy, they have to last long untill God come back earth again. What's your bests suggestions?
Great video, William. Very informative! I totally agree with you on Whites “hand sewn Stitchdown” construction. It really catches the eye and make people stare. I like to order Whites through Bakers, the parent company. I think Whites may have a wider variety of heritage leathers than Nicks, who rule them all when it comes to work leathers. The Bakes/Whites “Bounty Hunter” in Latigo leather are beautiful boots. Their double-stuffed burgundy is another awesome leather.
Just for info, Bakers isn't White's parent company. White's parent company is Japan's ABC Mart. Bakers are a reseller of White's, and are actually also the parent company of Drew's Boots.
Im torn between nicks and jk. I'm in construction, 12 hr days. mud, dirt, sometimes concrete gets on them and I'm rough on boots. What would you recommend
Who all makes a handmade coyote brown tactical boot 👢? I bought a pair of bumu from South Korea. They were handmade but the material was not as great. They lasted a good two years of full time military service.
Worth every penny!! My feet live in either JK boots or sandals :) I wear JK boots (Superduty shorts) at least 5 days a week for anywhere from 10-14 hours each day. The last thing crossing my mind at the end of the day is taking my boots off. My Forefronts pair is like walking on clouds!
A Norwegian welt is a separate piece of leather stitched into the upper - whites sort of does this same thing, but with the flanged out upper, rather than a separate welt. I could be misremembering the specifics since it’s been a while since I saw it being done, but it’s super cool
Please make a video of your top 3 complimented boots. Surprisingly, my Thursday Captain in brandy gets more love from the ladies than my Shrunken Bison black cap toe Truman
I have a situation here with Baker's Boots. I ordered White's boots from Baker's on last 25th Nov and they promised to deliver them in 3 months. After 3 months, I've contacted them about the boots and they said it's pushed 2~3 months due to the blackfriday orders. After another 3 month, 26th May, I mailed and said since it's passed 6 months passed if it's not ready, I would have to cancel the order. Then she said I have to pay 30% 'restocking fee' to cancel the order. 'Unfortunately, this is out of our control, the factory is still trying to get caught up from Black Friday. You would need to pay a 30% restocking fee if you want to cancel the order.' - this is what she said and never have said sorry for my time and patience. Do you think 30% restcking fee is fair for this kind of situation?
I own Red Wing and Whites Perry Select moc toes and to me Whites is far superior. It has thicker and higher quality leather and leather components and in general a beefier construction, yet way more comfortable than the lighter Red Wing with its uncomfortably narrow last and non-existent arch support. I can wear the Whites all day long with no foot fatigue and cannot say the same about the Red Wings.
Hands down, a handsewn stitchdown from Whites is the best. People who get Nicks dont know any better. JK is tough but thats all they do and there’s nothing wrong with that. Wesco has never hit the mark for me. Frank’s is a strong second best, the best stitchdown only offering.
another thing they have in common: the all worked for one another at one point. the founder of nick's worked at white's the founder of jk worked at nick's.
Been a hot minute since you've released a video. Hope everything is ok!
Where did he go lol gave up on boots
Yeah where is this dude?
You actually introduced me to Nicks. I know own five pair with a couple on order. The brown waxed flesh is hard to break in, but after six months, mine have the softest upper of all of my boots. Their moc toe is amazing.
The Perry Select was designed to address the exact issues mentioned here and elsewhere. The construction is better and the leather options are fantastic. I have the tobacco stampede and am loving that leather. The website pics don't do it justice.
Yup the select is what I chose. Way better boot than the original Perry.
I'm going to get one, not sure on which leather selection yet. Love them all
I really enjoy my White's Perry Moc toes. I own 2 pairs already. They are built well and hold up well for work boots. Ordered another pair of the Perry selects. I think its a better boot then the Red Wings. Red Wings are not what they once where. They have cut back on quality materials in the new boots. I am also thinking about a White MP service boot in Kudu leather that just came out. And, Whites will customize boots if you ask them. So, I own Whites and Danner's and Red Wing and even a pair of Thursday's Moc Toes. They are my weekend boots. I think for the price, Whites are best. And, if money is not object, then you get Nicks. Thanks for another nice video..
Dude where you been?? The cooler reviews too
I miss
This comparison is incomplete without adding Frank's Boots into the mix. Frank's has fewer models to choose from compared to White's or Nicks but there are various classic logger-style boots and heritage models to select from, built as-good or better. What sets Franks apart from the other three is customer service and personal attention to fit and styling. Frank still does things the way Nicks USED to do it when Frank was managing things over there, as compared to modern Nicks that seem to give customers more options in lieu of personal service in order to push more sales volume. You know, like White's does, which is ironic given that Frank's way is what used to set them apart and make Nicks really shine.
You should add Franks to the list. Customer service is top notch. Quality is on par, and they have the most custom options vs any of the others mentioned.
The steam formed, to a last; insole is a nice feature as well.
I own a pair of JK 300 series and their forefront when I’m on large construction job sites and they’ve been amazing. Truly a “it just keeps getting better” reality in terms of comfort, fit, and aesthetic.
For those wondering, upgrading to the forefront is definitely worth it if you’re actually using them daily to work. Otherwise, the 300 is more than enough.
I have Nicks and Whites currently and love then both, but the Nicks 55 Therman last feels the best under the arch compared to my Whites 4811 last.
Not sure if anyone will see this or care, but I strongly recommend that people truly understand what they are getting when they buy a PNW boot. He mentioned the break in is tough, and that is no joke! I bought a pair of Franks Patriots, as I had convinced myself that I wanted the toughest boots out there but did not have the money (or courage) to commit to a $600-700 flagship boot. I had to sell them because they were just too much boot. I’m glad I ended up getting the $350 Patriots instead of $600 Superduty, Smoke Jumpers, etc., but I wish I would have just gotten some RW IRs, or Grant Stones, or Jim Greens or something in the first place. I fell victim to the mindset of “gotta buy the best” but the best was more than I needed and really was not well suited to my needs.
Love them all, but my loyalty goes to Nicks, they have been nothing but good to me. And will forever love them. ❤
I Really like White's Packer Boot. I don't own them, But I'd love to in the future
I have a pair. They are excellent. Unmatched arch. Very comfortable, highly recommend.
@@r1seup144 Thanks I'm excited for the day I can afford them lol.
Missing the bootspy videos. Hopefully you'll drop a video with the fall and winter here. Hope all is well
For me the biggest reason I went with PNW is the arch support, along with natural material and USA made. I went with Nicks, and love them. Next time I think I'll go with Whites because they claim to have the best arch support.
I own JK bison OT, Whites hand lasted packer ranch boots and Origin work boots. I want a pair of Frank's boots (not sure which model) and want a pair of Nick's tactical military boots.
Bought nicks tactical tanker boot back in December. Still waiting for them. I'm excited but waiting half a year sucks man
6 months for a pair of boots ?!😂
It’s not a Ferrari or a Lambo !? Smdh
Ordered a pair of Builder Pros in December, theyre showing up this week
I have White’s 8 in Perry Select in Tobacco Stampede. I think those boots are pretty good boots imo. I also work in the trades most definitely better than Thorogood’s, Carolina’s. I don’t have any PNW boots to compare them with.
My opinion of my Thorogood boots changed drastically after I tried my first pair of White's. When my Thorogoods fell apart in less than a year, I decided to switch to the Perry Selects. The comfort of these boots is remarkable straight out of the box, and their build quality far surpasses that of the Thorogoods. They make the Thorogood's quality seem comparable to boots you'd find at Walmart. They're so nice that I'm hesitant to even wear them to work, because I don't want to destroy them. I can only imagine the superior quality of a pair of Nick's boots.
HOLY FRIGGIN SPIT!!!!!!! I have never encountered someone who was willing to poopoo the White's Perry with me! It's not the legend that every internet boot wearer claims. Thanks for backing me up. 7:51
I mean it's really not that big of a deal 😂
@@neo7759 to you maybe. It's a big deal to me. 🥰😘😍😜🤪😛🤣😋🙃😅
A lineman shank is basically an Arch support support. It doesn't replace the midsole it should make the boot far stiffer. It works in tandem with the shank and midsole. Are you sure that's a true lineman shank?
Have you ever worn or checked out Truman boots? I love their boots and their leather selection is second to none.
I started buying franks because those 3 brands wouldn't install arch pads.
I have a very flat foot and for the longest time I absolutely hated boots because of their stiff arch. I got a pair of JK O.Ts about a month ago and although the break in hurt for about a day because of the arch, they are the most comfortable boots I have ever worn. So much so that I wore them for the entirety of a weekend long Disney trip. Honestly I was super surprised just how much the boots mold to your foot.
Sort of interesting that you are comparing 3 boot manufactures out of Spokane Wa... You missed Franks Boots which is based in Spokane also. Basically all boot manufactures will do customization, leathers, sizes, etc., just let them know... 👍
Seems like Wesco should be in the PNW group. Lots of custom options.
Wesco is for dominatrix's 😂
Love my Mister Lou
Generally agree with all of this with the asterisk that the White's MP line is pretty slept on. Nicks are really good but they seems to push harder into their builder pro history than White's does; if you're loking for more heritage stuff, even though Nick's has more interesting leathers, I think the White's lineup with their MPs and similar are more interesting to me from a heritage standpoint. I *want* to like Nicks a little more than I do, but it always seems like everything is V100 sole based. They're all good, but if you're looking for more heritage, I kinda like White's more. White's is more $$$ though.
What denim shirt are you wearing here?
Could you do a review of Overland’s Cowboy or Telluride boots? Getting a lot of advertisements for them, and they look amazing but would love your review!
I have boots from these three brands, too. I'm not sure that I would say all the exact same things about the brands or the models because I may have slightly different models and things, but I got the OT and will wear them soon, but I wish they were easier to get in the fit proper off the bat and don't need the roughout bottoms, etc., but less jarring for those who don't expect the arch support or want high logger heel? Nick's seem to fit better overall than other two BUT the moc toe is also maybe can come with or without the arch? I know the White's doesn't have and from last vid where I went all thru the selections but don't recall what the final result was but I already have plenty moc toes that I don't need Nick's or RW any time soon, anyway.
I could say a lot more here, I guess. I'm this and that and must point out that Made To Order is a better term than "custom" because they are not fitted and sized the same as true custom shoes, but fun to use the Wesco "custom" menu thing but don't expect to want to wait 18 months for a pair any time soon, but maybe sometime I will order from them and compare. You also didn't go into detail about the tongue protectors and the different outsoles.
I probably should have taken the opportunity to return the White's ones I got for a wider width BUT then that outsole sticks out so far that I'm already afraid to try ever driving in them because I already don't like when some other boot like Thursday gets caught on the brake pedal from underneath, etc.
bring back the bootspy!!!
What would be a good leather choice for lots of snow and rain? Canadian winter?
Wesco should be looked at too
Definitely. People complain about the lead times for custom boots but I got my Mister Lou in CXL shipped next day by Wesco. Construction is amazing
Nick's is my nb1, then JK. I have a pair of Nick's Gamebreaker, best boot I have ever worn. They are my forever boot.
Nicks is my 1st go to.. I have 1 pair of Whites (MP). I would get a pair of JKs but they seem more WORK oriented. (No Heritage)
nicks also has a trades program!! 100$ off if your currently an apprentice, thats awesome and something you dont see everyday
Nick's: The six month wait wasn't fun but my Tacticals are the best (and most expensive) boots I've ever owned and since I measure myself correctly, they fit like an absolute glove. Unlike the Danner's I used to wear, they're all leather, none of this half leather half nylon nonsense. People on YT have asked me how I was able to to get a pair with composite toe; it appears it's no longer an option. I'll definitely buy another pair (perhaps their work Chelsea).
White's: Two pair of moc toes, the Perry Select in Tobacco Stampede and their wedge hybrid in black (and I dyed the stitching to do a blackout look). I tried Red Wings (they have one in Long Beach) and there were just 'meh'; not bad but just wasn't in love with them. Also no long wait time.
JKs: Was lucky to get a pair of 300Xs when they were in stock; great customer service and a phone call from them when they shipped. I don't care for the soft toe and really thin tongue that the backing on the hooks was starting to tear apart before I put kilties in them (they were my first pair of 'real' boots). The leather on my pair was really wrinkly (like when your fingers get when you've been in a jacuzzi too long) and I can't get a shine on them and I had a ton of heel slip before adding a new insole. Sadly they're my car wash boot because I don't care if they get wet since they used some sort of heavily oiled tannage...also got a ton of thumb down reviews on their site.
Hey man, I'm looking for the highest quality working boots money can buy, they have to last long untill God come back earth again.
What's your bests suggestions?
Great video, William. Very informative! I totally agree with you on Whites “hand sewn Stitchdown” construction. It really catches the eye and make people stare.
I like to order Whites through Bakers, the parent company. I think Whites may have a wider variety of heritage leathers than Nicks, who rule them all when it comes to work leathers.
The Bakes/Whites “Bounty Hunter” in Latigo leather are beautiful boots. Their double-stuffed burgundy is another awesome leather.
Just for info, Bakers isn't White's parent company. White's parent company is Japan's ABC Mart. Bakers are a reseller of White's, and are actually also the parent company of Drew's Boots.
Im torn between nicks and jk. I'm in construction, 12 hr days. mud, dirt, sometimes concrete gets on them and I'm rough on boots. What would you recommend
I’d do a forefront with a lug sole. Potentially an OT if you want the taller heel or on a ladder a lot.
Who all makes a handmade coyote brown tactical boot 👢? I bought a pair of bumu from South Korea. They were handmade but the material was not as great. They lasted a good two years of full time military service.
Just found ur latest video to post this comment: please do a review of Thursday Boots new Thunder boots!
Video should be called "why jk is the correct choice" lol. I still want a pair from them someday.
Worth every penny!! My feet live in either JK boots or sandals :) I wear JK boots (Superduty shorts) at least 5 days a week for anywhere from 10-14 hours each day. The last thing crossing my mind at the end of the day is taking my boots off. My Forefronts pair is like walking on clouds!
What is the difference between the rolled welt that White’s offers and a Norwegian welt?
A Norwegian welt is a separate piece of leather stitched into the upper - whites sort of does this same thing, but with the flanged out upper, rather than a separate welt. I could be misremembering the specifics since it’s been a while since I saw it being done, but it’s super cool
Wish you brought up ur size in each one
Please make a video of your top 3 complimented boots. Surprisingly, my Thursday Captain in brandy gets more love from the ladies than my Shrunken Bison black cap toe Truman
You should look into hoffman's. I love my 16 inch powerlines,.
Are those nicks tactical coyote brown? Anyone wear them in uniform?
I have a situation here with Baker's Boots.
I ordered White's boots from Baker's on last 25th Nov and they promised to deliver them in 3 months.
After 3 months, I've contacted them about the boots and they said it's pushed 2~3 months due to the blackfriday orders.
After another 3 month, 26th May, I mailed and said since it's passed 6 months passed if it's not ready, I would have to cancel the order.
Then she said I have to pay 30% 'restocking fee' to cancel the order.
'Unfortunately, this is out of our control, the factory is still trying to get caught up from Black Friday. You would need to pay a 30% restocking fee if you want to cancel the order.' - this is what she said and never have said sorry for my time and patience.
Do you think 30% restcking fee is fair for this kind of situation?
I own Red Wing and Whites Perry Select moc toes and to me Whites is far superior. It has thicker and higher quality leather and leather components and in general a beefier construction, yet way more comfortable than the lighter Red Wing with its uncomfortably narrow last and non-existent arch support. I can wear the Whites all day long with no foot fatigue and cannot say the same about the Red Wings.
Very informative, so thanks for this.
Just checking in how are you doing? You used to bomb me with your videos...
Regards!
i love these videos because theres no way in hell im spending $600 on a boot but I can live vicariously through youtubers who spend the $$
Hands down, a handsewn stitchdown from Whites is the best.
People who get Nicks dont know any better.
JK is tough but thats all they do and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Wesco has never hit the mark for me.
Frank’s is a strong second best, the best stitchdown only offering.
Well said, love me my wescos though
I have had three Wesco’s, i love the patterns and they are the best looking PNW boot but i never feel the arch support so i stick with Whites.
Where is the pined comment?
Order White's via Baker's. Best way.
Darn Tough socks are made in Vermont and have a lifetime warranty
I type for a living as well but I’m getting a pair of fat tanky work boots as soon as I find the smallest real excuse
another thing they have in common: the all worked for one another at one point. the founder of nick's worked at white's the founder of jk worked at nick's.
theres no way those socks last 10 years
it’s free supply then
Super duty are the best!
Too bad he has stopped posting
Does Camel City make crew socks?
The best thing about lifetime warranties or 5+ year warranties is that the business won't be around anymore.
Those PNW logger style boots look girly af.
Has anyone in the comment section used their sock warranty?
Excellent content
OMG man. You stepping up.
Bro, that commerical kept going. Dont do that lol.
Canada west
Well done!
Aren't JK made in Leone?
Just their cowboy boots
Leon*
Spokane, WA
Chida camisa
Drews contractors
1- Nicks
2- Whites
3- JK
Maybe it’s me but JK boots are hideous. Give me Nick’s alllll day!!
Shameless and stupid advertisement
nuh uh
Where is the pined comment. For the socks?
Paid content?
Dudes reviewing the biggest boot brands and not even reviewing the real boots haha.
Why the whiter audience?