The ceiling for Big 12 wins looks like 3-4, leading to over 15 losses. Key issues: - Lack of continuity and cohesion - Concerns with team behavior (Achor situation) - Poor half-court offense and interior defense, which fall on the coaching staff Always enjoy watching this podcast! Don’t forget, N’Guessan is pronounced (Guh-SAHN).
@@georgevan2589 I am quite the optimistic and I do believe they will improve as the season progresses, however realistically I believe it will be too little too late.
I don’t know what to think about this team. It kinda reminds me of teams which lacked institutional control where coaches have been dismissed. Since the NIL is out of control, there have to be some kind of measures to rope it back in. Performance bonuses etc so there’s some kind of incentive for these players - right now, this looks like a money grab by this team. I can assure you that this NIL will be smaller next season - we had our chance, and we blew it.
My humble advice to the coaching staff moving forward would be (either thru high school/transfer portal), go get tough players that are hungry to prove themselves and are not after that bag $. Also use NIL to keep the older players that are productive on our roster that have "bought in" and they can help carry over the mantle for the new incoming players. One-year high potential-low ceiling rental players is NOT the way to go moving forward.
The portal and NIL have definitely changed things. I think the HS focus needs more attention and then fill your short term voids with impactful transfers. Notre dame football coach Marcus freeman had a good quote about the portal recently. He said that the program will major in high school recruiting and minor is the portal. This is a perfect strategy.
Pains me to say it but this is who this team is. Has to be. It won’t get better. I’ve never heard of a team starting this bad and then winning the conference or making the Elite 8, you?
Coach Tang actually said something in one of the pressers last month about this. One of his Baylor Teams started conference play 2-8 and still made it to the sweet 16. I think 11-9, 12-8 in Big12 play gets us in the tourney.
I’m really tired of watching him flail through games with zero probability of any of his shots going in. He performs like he’s never played in an official game.
It starts at the top. Tang should be FIRED! He doesn't know how to coach! 359 of 361 D1 teams in TO last yr. Arthur Kaluma was a 15+ pt scorer @ creighton. 10 pts at KSU, 15+ at TX this yr. Hawkins & McDaniel were 15+ pt scorers in Big10 last yr. Hawkins is less than 10 pts this yr and McDaniel can't find the court. Starting Castillo? 2 games?! The coaching staff has long been extolling Castillo but he has yet to do anything on court. So that tells me they don't know crap! Now Tang is scared of the Missouri Valley and the Big east?! Who does he think is going to prepare KSU for the Big 12?! Tang is NOT the right person to lead K-State! He not capable of the job!
We still feeling this way after the cincy game ? I think he deserves some criticism for sure for the slow start, but I’m not ready to bring the pitchforks out. (Yet)
Culture? What is the culture of this program? The lack of buy in from the players tells me that the staff is completely unable to impose their will on the team and the players will continue to look like they're only in it for themselves...poor personnel decisions with no foundation or culture to fall back on...and high school recruiting has been gutted due to the ongoing search for "experienced players."These coaches aren't skilled enough to rebuild every single year.
It's sharp knife that's been gutted into this bball program. One way I see that they can patch this up and mend the bleeding is to grab young, tough & hungry players that aren't in it for the money but are out to prove themselves that they can play at this level. Also use a smaller NIL budget as an incentive to keep some of our current productive players so that than can carry-over to the next season with the new guys. This will take some time to fix (most definitely more than 1 year) and Tang is gonna be here for the foreseeable future. However, it's a fix that I'm not sure the fanbase will be patient enough to see pass. But I hope everyone can be patient to see if they can fix this. Time will tell...
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The ceiling for Big 12 wins looks like 3-4, leading to over 15 losses. Key issues:
- Lack of continuity and cohesion
- Concerns with team behavior (Achor situation)
- Poor half-court offense and interior defense, which fall on the coaching staff
Always enjoy watching this podcast! Don’t forget, N’Guessan is pronounced (Guh-SAHN).
I really hope your off here. I’m predicting an 11-9 conference finish
Every game Buddy has come into, he has provided a spark. Hopefully, he playing time will continue to increase.
100%
My overall K-State men's bball projection moving forward:
Ceiling: Conf - (13-7); Regular Season Overall - (19-12); Tourney outlook - On the Bubble (Last 4 In - Next 4 Out)
Floor: Conf - (6-14); Regular Season Overall - (12-19); Tourney outlook - N/A
Realistic: Conf - (9-11); Regular Season Overall - (15-16); Tourney outlook - CBI ?
Unfortunately the realistic expectation seems very optimistic, but that's why they play the games, anything can happen.
@@georgevan2589 I am quite the optimistic and I do believe they will improve as the season progresses, however realistically I believe it will be too little too late.
I closely with you here. Although I’m predicting a 11-9 finish
I don’t know what to think about this team. It kinda reminds me of teams which lacked institutional control where coaches have been dismissed. Since the NIL is out of control, there have to be some kind of measures to rope it back in. Performance bonuses etc so there’s some kind of incentive for these players - right now, this looks like a money grab by this team. I can assure you that this NIL will be smaller next season - we had our chance, and we blew it.
My humble advice to the coaching staff moving forward would be (either thru high school/transfer portal), go get tough players that are hungry to prove themselves and are not after that bag $. Also use NIL to keep the older players that are productive on our roster that have "bought in" and they can help carry over the mantle for the new incoming players. One-year high potential-low ceiling rental players is NOT the way to go moving forward.
Tang was pushing the money grab route. This is his plan. Blew up on him.
@ - watch out what you wish for as they say.
The portal and NIL have definitely changed things. I think the HS focus needs more attention and then fill your short term voids with impactful transfers.
Notre dame football coach Marcus freeman had a good quote about the portal recently.
He said that the program will major in high school recruiting and minor is the portal. This is a perfect strategy.
Pains me to say it but this is who this team is. Has to be. It won’t get better. I’ve never heard of a team starting this bad and then winning the conference or making the Elite 8, you?
Coach Tang actually said something in one of the pressers last month about this.
One of his Baylor Teams started conference play 2-8 and still made it to the sweet 16.
I think 11-9, 12-8 in Big12 play gets us in the tourney.
@ I hope to be wrong. Cinci was a good start
Would have been better with Ames, Kaluma, and Carter.
I wholeheartedly agree with you here. They decided to let those 3 dudes walk last year and reboot. Well the reboot ain't going well so far...
This sounds like a great episode once this season is over !!!
The Hawkins problem is what he is being paid. $2 mill is not facilitator Robin, that much is for 20 point Batman’s.
I’m really tired of watching him flail through games with zero probability of any of his shots going in. He performs like he’s never played in an official game.
I hope his new role changes things
As a Razorback fan I'm so glad we didn't end up with Jerome Tang. K State is cooked
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It starts at the top. Tang should be FIRED! He doesn't know how to coach! 359 of 361 D1 teams in TO last yr. Arthur Kaluma was a 15+ pt scorer @ creighton. 10 pts at KSU, 15+ at TX this yr. Hawkins & McDaniel were 15+ pt scorers in Big10 last yr. Hawkins is less than 10 pts this yr and McDaniel can't find the court. Starting Castillo? 2 games?! The coaching staff has long been extolling Castillo but he has yet to do anything on court. So that tells me they don't know crap! Now Tang is scared of the Missouri Valley and the Big east?! Who does he think is going to prepare KSU for the Big 12?! Tang is NOT the right person to lead K-State! He not capable of the job!
We still feeling this way after the cincy game ? I think he deserves some criticism for sure for the slow start, but I’m not ready to bring the pitchforks out. (Yet)
@LockedOnKansasState Get rid of him! After last year, no excuse for that! Don't want another decade of mediocrity ala weber.
Culture? What is the culture of this program? The lack of buy in from the players tells me that the staff is completely unable to impose their will on the team and the players will continue to look like they're only in it for themselves...poor personnel decisions with no foundation or culture to fall back on...and high school recruiting has been gutted due to the ongoing search for "experienced players."These coaches aren't skilled enough to rebuild every single year.
It's sharp knife that's been gutted into this bball program. One way I see that they can patch this up and mend the bleeding is to grab young, tough & hungry players that aren't in it for the money but are out to prove themselves that they can play at this level. Also use a smaller NIL budget as an incentive to keep some of our current productive players so that than can carry-over to the next season with the new guys. This will take some time to fix (most definitely more than 1 year) and Tang is gonna be here for the foreseeable future. However, it's a fix that I'm not sure the fanbase will be patient enough to see pass. But I hope everyone can be patient to see if they can fix this. Time will tell...
I think we are getting an idea of what he meant by this, but still not enough proof imo.
loving every minute of this trash pay for play k state basketball team. learn from the alleged cheater TJ Oz on how to build a program. go clones 🌪️ karma is a bitch
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