I agree, the default is too muffled. I ended up using "Bright" which is similar to your settings, and even excellent for classical music. That setting also decreases the base too. I ended up to a similar sounding to my previous headphone, the Bose NC 700, only that the Sony is MUCH better especially with classical music, the Bose is just too flat with something like the 4 seasons from Vivaldi despite the fact it's default EQ setting is similar to the XM5's Bright setting. But the Bose NC 700 is 3 years old now, it would be interesting to see a Bose NC 800 or something.
Im a sucker for a flat sound, so if u have XM3 try this: 25Hz -5dB Q0.33, 45Hz -5dB Q0.33,135Hz -9dB Q1, 9kHz -7dB Q1.5. (in Windows use Equalizer APO) When I get my hands on XM5 I'll post for them too.
I used studio monitors calibrated with umik mic as reference. Also for headphones I use meier crossfeed in foobar (set to about 20% for XM3, but that also depends on your head width)
Great review bother. Another thing that Sony headphones users don't know when they're using Android phones is to go to settings>sound>Dolby Atmos>put movie. On the app keep it on "excited" you will feel how good the music and media sounds on them
Is the bass as good as the xm4? I had the xm5 and returned because the there didn't appear to be any bass :(. I don't need ridiculous bass like Crusher wireless, but I like a little thump.
Thank you for sharing your settings. I personally never EQ, I'm one of those firm believers in stock sound tuning. But I was underwhelmed with my XM5's sound when I received them, especially coming from Sennheiser headphones. Tried your settings and they sound much better now. Much less bloat and muddiness I was hearing before. Turning down the clear bass setting definitely helped alot. And touching up the mid to high frequencies a smidge gives it more clarity without sounding bright. Great work. I just wish Sony offered a 10-band EQ for more precise tuning.
So after the EQ, do you think the Sound quality can compare to the Sennheiser M3 or M4? I like the Sony ANC, but prefer to keep the sound quality at the level of the M3. So I'm debating which one I should upgrade to Sony XM5 vs. Sennheiser M4...
Thanks for this video. Settings are very personal to the listener. I tried your settings and thanks for the setting. But - to me nothing beats the "Bright" Setting on the XM3, XM4 and XM5.
Similar to mine, but I have the 16 further up for more air and extension. These sound really dark and muffled by default as anyone who has listened to audiophile gear knows.
This is my EQ that makes my XM5 sound natural and less muffled/boxy. I feel like the upper midrange is already elevated so I turn down 2.5KHz rather than up. Also, I always keep one band as reference point (0) to keep my EQ "normalized". ClearBass: -2 | 400: -1 | 1K: 0 (ref) | 2.5K: -2 | 6.3K: +3 | 16K: +3
Better question is why do they sound so poor out of the box? My brother bought them and I put them on and thought something was defective because they sound so muddy.
Agreed. I just got these headphones today and they sound like all highs are missing. I put my Artic Pro Wireless gaming headset on and a night and day difference. If this can't be adjusted, they will be returned.
As a lawn service guy who is in a loud environment pretty much all day everyday I was so excited for this headphones, specially for the noise cancelling. I was disappointed when I tried them on and the "noise cancelling" levels kept going all over the place and sometimes it made the noise worse. Idk if I got a bad pair but I had to return them and keep my xm4 earbuds which are amazing for noise cancelling
No, you are 100% right. It's most likely the auto-optimizer adjusting for different volumes outside. I think mine still do it, even with the auto-optimizer turned off. I'm hoping they fix this in their next firmware update. I like the ANC more on these XM5's more than my XM3's, because it's better quality.. But the ANC goes all over the place, and annoys me. Then they shut off randomly, and also stutter when listening through bluetooth. Like you'll miss a couple of words here and there. Lets hope a new firmware comes along and fixes them. I'm currently on 1.1.1 (If I recall correctly..)
While driving a semi for 10 hours a day. I went with the 5s also for the same reason. The noise canceling switches between transport n walking randomly! Frustrating for sure! Hope a firmware will fix it!
Idk why the xm4 just sounds way better to my ears even after tweaking the xm5.. I own both and kind of regret buying the xm5 .. xm4 noise cancelling isn’t that bad and is still top of the line .. xm5 given the choice again, I’d 100% stick to my xm4 and save the money for Bose NC 800 coming soon and it’s probably going to blow xm5 out the water.. and remember , bose is like the father of all noise cancelling headphones .. can’t wait to see what bose would have to offer, competition is a great thing so props to Sony for shaking things up in the noise cancelling headphones market. As always great review :))
I just got them, and for the first time, I had to drop Clear Bass all the way to -10. I didn't have to for XM4, but the ANC really skewed things. The sounds with ANC vs. without are quite different.
With Sonys deep pockets, you would think they would have made a better EQ platform!! 5 band is bare minimum and No parametric features! They score low on this feature! Really good share!!!!! Larry
Great video, as always, Aaron. I am watching this cos I decided to ditch earbuds for reasons in favour of over ear headphones. My xm5s arrive today and I cannot wait to take them for a spin and this video was so helpful. Now I understand how the eq works and I cannot wait to play with it. Keep up the good work, man!!! 😀👍😀😎
I think you should have made available the XM5's audio output with modified EQ as well in the comparison list for your members, that would have helped alot by understanding what the headphones are capable of. Already you have made available lots of videos for side by side comparison which are very helpful but with EQ modified settings it would have been extremely helpful. 😁
I love keeping equalizer off and love to listen music that way! Guess that the most natural way to appreciate music the way it's recorded. Twisting with equalizer made high, low and mid frequencies shifts and that either overshadow or undershadow other frequencies, which changes the balance of natural recorded sound in studio! This is personal thought and liking only!
Just got those Today and need to say they don't sound as appealing as Technics A800 that I had to return due to Bluetooth issues which are unsolvable. Will try the EQ, possibly making sound less 'muffled' as you say. It indeed leans towards the more bass oriented sound which is not something I appreciate when listening to rock and metal :) Thanks for sharing!
the upper bass in the 100-200hz region is super annoying on every XM headset since the XM3. Unbearable and cannot be fixed with the internal EQ without sacrificing either actual bass and/or mids. Always using an external EQ but will switch to the QC45 now, that my XM3s are broken and the XM5 don't sound much better either...
Few reasons why as an audiophile I didn’t get these for listening and commuting . 1) it can’t fold 2) it still has the “dark” tuning although yes there are improvements to the bass 3) comfort to me is still an issue with these as my ear touches the lining. Overall great video. Hope the EQ fixes things
This Is Tech Today did a really good job fixing the darkness with his custom eq. I really like his eq settings but you can only see his settings if your a member of his channel. I agree Aaron Is Loud And Wireless custom eq is a bit dark sounding for my taste.
@@SigmaWolfGrindset Anyone with an understanding of how the frequencies work can no doubt make good settings even without using his own custom settings. Thankfully I'm close to understanding it by using CD quality lossless audio, and then playing it back in Foobar2000 where both the spectrum and spectrograms display in real time. At least, I'd recommend the use of that program a lot since it can help with deciphering frequencies.
My biggest complaint with these headphones is that the ear cups aren't deep enough. I don't find them uncomfortable, but my ears also touch the lining and I don't like that. I don't consider myself an audiophile so they sound pretty good out of the box to me, but I did decrease the bass. These aren't as muddy sounding out of the box as previous models though. The main reason I didn't buy the XM4 was because I found the sound to be too muddy.
I came to the XM5's from my XM3's.. Did they just recently take the feature away that allows you to choose between Concert, or Arena, etc? I liked the Arena setting. Just made music sound better imo. Does anyone else make a bad habit of wearing them a LOT? Like to sleep even?
I just bought these and found out if you turn anc off you get better quality out off it I spent £380 last thing I want is distortion In the music that's probably why anc is shit why can't we get good passive noise cancelling its not like you have yo use open back that makes it feel like a concert but portable wireless headphones for outside yes we do take a hit on that on that and a reduction is quality and not quite cd quality with bluetooth The only thing that closed backs can do is just try and improve atmosphere and sound quality and CD quality audio
After tuning the XM5, how do they stack up against Bose headphones? I have tried the XM4 and QC35 II and I just prefer the clarity of the latter. Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks 🙏
@@aaronloudnwireless I noticed in that video you opted to tone down on the mids and have a more recessed midrange. Has your audio preference changed from then to now ?
Finnish magazine *HIFImaailma 6/2021* (it's all in Finnish) tested Sony WH-1000XM4's. They showed their EQ-settings, too. Which I have'nt tested yet. So, feel free to comment. They mentioned that Sony's EQ (in the app) affects the sound only via Bluetooth. XM4's got minuses, for example, from its excessive bass. In case of "HIFImaailma", my expectation is that excessive upper Bass/lower mids is something they will attack first. Even with the cost of bit too weak low/mid Bass (Sony's app has only one general Bass setting...). *Basic EQ of the Sony WH-1000XM4's mobile application* 400: 0 1k: 0 2.5k: +5 (yes, they only moved this one, to plus five) 6.3k: 0 16k: 0 Clear BASS: -4 (minus four) *Equalizer APO* 120 Hz, -3 dB, shelf correction* (low) 132 Hz, -3 dB, Q: 0.9 1 110 Hz, +3 dB, Q: 3 1 490 Hz, -5 dB, Q: 4 2 470 Hz, +6 dB, Q: 2.5 5 070 Hz, -7 dB, Q: 8 6 540 Hz, +3 dB, Q: 5 8 130 Hz, -7 dB, Q: 7.6 9 000 Hz, -3 dB, shelf correction* (high) *) In Finnish: hyllykorjain (hylly = shelf). Few years earlier, that same magazine has tested XM2's (4/5 stars). Without any EQ-settings, *if* I remember right... Quick search didn't find XM3's or XM5's, so perhaps they haven't tested those.
My own "Aaarghh, I give up!" -settings* *for XM4's* seem to be (vs. HIFImaailma): 400: -1 (one dB less than HIFImaailma) 1k: 0 (same) 2.5k: +2 (three dB's less than HIFImaailma) 🤔 6.3k: -1 (one dB less than HIFImaailma) 16k: 0 (same) Clear BASS: -3 (one dB higher than HIFImaailma) *) I remember going back forth, in 2021 propably, while testing several very different songs. Including sharp distortion guitars (I wonder how +5@2.5 will sound now....), thumping low bass, female vocals, audiobooks...) I very rarely listen to rap, hiphop or rnb. Or metal with mostly "growling type" vocals. Unless they're part of the sound track etc.
Hey! I just got these and I have adjusted the EQ when using Bluetooth, they now sound a whole lot better. However, when I’m using a chord, which I want to so I can really try and enjoy Apple Lossless, I can’t EQ them. It says I have to connect the headphones. Is there any way to do this? Because they sound very flat otherwise. Oh, and I don’t know if it matters but I’m using them with an iPhone 13 mini Thanks a lot in advance! :)
This is the one that came with Sony's app. There are others with more bands of course but it's beyond the scope of this video. Used Wavelet for a while but not in love with it.
Thank you Aaron for sharing your knowledge, can you also please also share eq settings for passive listening? Tried wavelet they are horrible, it develops crackling noise listening to classical music and when used wired - sony sounds like cheap trash
I'm so disappointed with the XM5s :( Even with Clearbass at max and on top of that turned up with the Samsung settings app the bass is very weak and anemic. My old XM3s sound a lot better with a more fun and punchy sound.
@@gwapster13 It's not... I've heard another pair of the same headphones. The bass is way too weak on these and you can't get that nice deep rumble like on the XM3 or 4. I think I'll get the XB910, they might sound better...
@@lukastemberger Or maybe the fit isn't good for you? I know audio is very subjective, but it's very surprising to know that someone finds XM5's bass too weak. For some reason, you might not be getting the bass that it actually has. That's puzzling.
After setting the Headphone under customs 1 or 2 as you show in your video it works, but the adjusted setting in EQ is not valid if you connect the Headphone to your PC or Laptop. Sorry but your information regarding this is wrong.
Sony's own EQ seems still the same, i.e. dissappointing. Since they're still aiming towards more upper bass (around *150 Hz* ): * At least for me, 16 kHz is bit too high for a basic 5-band EQ (even teens don't always hear ~16 kHz) * *400 Hz is way too high* as the lowest setting for any EQ * Yes, there is that Bass slider, but... you can't use it to set preferred low/mid Bass, while *simultaneously* reducing upper bass/low mids. * There isn't a *Hi-Fi preset,* i.e. one giving as straight response as possible. * There isn't a Parametric EQ (frequency + width/narrowness, i.e Q-value + level). Sony offered them ages ago for AV Receivers. * You can't "lock" headphones to one specific EQ-mode, no matter the usage case (cord/cordless etc.). On the other hand... XM5's NC and long-term comfort seem to be further improved from XM4's. Those are major plusses for any NC headphones. Also, _in some use scenarios,_ it's possible to use external EQ as a work-around. I'm currently owner of XM2's (ear pads are visibly worn out and slightly too small, bit too much upper Bass/lower mids...) and XM4's (I almost returned them, because of the excessive upper Bass/lower mids...). I soon gave up on Hi-Fi and just searched more bearable compromise. By reducing the upper Bass. I tried to use XM4's simultaneously with both the mobile phone & Windows. But in long term, it just was too buggy. Perhaps the latest SW is much better vs. one several months ago? In noisy office etc., XM's can be smarter choice, than any expensive Hi-Fi headphones. It's just that with little more effort, they could be so much better...
Pretty sure the chances of Sony offering a pEQ are lower than Apple offering any EQ at all with their headphones. It sucks that these products are so dumbed for the average consumer. Like you say, it wouldn't be a huge amount of effort to include it. The included EQ is enough to make these sound bearable, fortunately.
How close it sounds to Momentum 4 after playing with the EQ? Cz, I'm confused between them because I don't want to compromise on call quality and ANC, but also the I don't like the muddy audio of XM5 in the default EQ as audible in these videos.
Does anyone know why the eq doesn’t save when you wire it? Wiring the headphones should always sound better? Stuck between the m4 vs m5 leaning towards m4. Please lmk
My headphones just arrived today. No directions in the box. Nothing about an App. I had to Google why the audio sounds like crap and found this video. I'll give it a chance. However, right now, my Arctis Pro Wireless gaming headset sounds much better. So much more crisp and clear. These Sony's sound like I have earmuffs on muffling the outside audio. Out of the box garbage.
Hi Aaron can I check if you got your XM5 here in SG or overseas? I really wanna get the XM5 but every time I connect the XM5 from the display store to the Sony headphones app I couldn't fully use the features such as the toggle between ANC and Ambient, I also cannot activate LDAC unlike my XM4 earbuds. Is it because I'm testing the ones on display? I'm scared that if I were to buy one the same exact thing will happen and I wouldn't wanna waste $$$
@@aaronloudnwireless yup but I can't toggle the NC and ambient mode on the XM5 display/demo using the app unlike my XM4 earbuds... I can also enable LDAC on my XM4 but not the XM5. I really hope it's because I'm trying the demo version but I'm really scared to buy one
@@aaronloudnwireless Ooo i just bought the XM5 recently and thankfully mine has LDAC. But I'm still not sure why I can't enable the LDAC with the XM5 displays from the shop. Nonetheless I'm so happy with my pair of XM5... Not much improvements from my XM4 earbuds except the mike but still happy with it
Sheesh everyone’s having problems with these headphones in general and they were expensive in my country and I’m getting mine today as a bday gift I need a good equaliser so I’m browsing as I suck at setting that stuff For the price these should have built in eq and be sweat proof and not have any issues
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I agree, the default is too muffled. I ended up using "Bright" which is similar to your settings, and even excellent for classical music. That setting also decreases the base too. I ended up to a similar sounding to my previous headphone, the Bose NC 700, only that the Sony is MUCH better especially with classical music, the Bose is just too flat with something like the 4 seasons from Vivaldi despite the fact it's default EQ setting is similar to the XM5's Bright setting. But the Bose NC 700 is 3 years old now, it would be interesting to see a Bose NC 800 or something.
Looking forward to bose has coming up after the fantastic QC45 which sound great unless your base head
@@stephenknight6562 The bass is very weak on the XM5s though...
@@lukastemberger I used my warranty swapped the the Sennheiser Momentum 4 which are much better
I have to say that EQ works incredibly well! Thanks for sharing
No problem!
Im a sucker for a flat sound, so if u have XM3 try this: 25Hz -5dB Q0.33, 45Hz -5dB Q0.33,135Hz -9dB Q1, 9kHz -7dB Q1.5. (in Windows use Equalizer APO) When I get my hands on XM5 I'll post for them too.
I used studio monitors calibrated with umik mic as reference. Also for headphones I use meier crossfeed in foobar (set to about 20% for XM3, but that also depends on your head width)
@@pamo5900 Awesome, Foobar2000.
Great review bother. Another thing that Sony headphones users don't know when they're using Android phones is to go to settings>sound>Dolby Atmos>put movie. On the app keep it on "excited" you will feel how good the music and media sounds on them
not every phone have Dolby Atmos with different modes like that, and sometimes DA makes it worse. Not every song suits it.
these settings +10 bass = perfection
Is the bass as good as the xm4? I had the xm5 and returned because the there didn't appear to be any bass :(. I don't need ridiculous bass like Crusher wireless, but I like a little thump.
Thank you for sharing your settings. I personally never EQ, I'm one of those firm believers in stock sound tuning. But I was underwhelmed with my XM5's sound when I received them, especially coming from Sennheiser headphones. Tried your settings and they sound much better now. Much less bloat and muddiness I was hearing before. Turning down the clear bass setting definitely helped alot. And touching up the mid to high frequencies a smidge gives it more clarity without sounding bright. Great work. I just wish Sony offered a 10-band EQ for more precise tuning.
So after the EQ, do you think the Sound quality can compare to the Sennheiser M3 or M4? I like the Sony ANC, but prefer to keep the sound quality at the level of the M3. So I'm debating which one I should upgrade to Sony XM5 vs. Sennheiser M4...
@@dawnanhnguyen8229 had both here... Sennheiser M4 wins the sound battle clearly.
@@dawnanhnguyen8229 Senn has its sonic character that sony won't be identical.
Thanks for this video. Settings are very personal to the listener. I tried your settings and thanks for the setting. But - to me nothing beats the "Bright" Setting on the XM3, XM4 and XM5.
I use your EQ all the time now! It makes all my media sound much clearer!
Going back to the “off” setting sounds so muffled haha
Very nice. Enjoy!
I really love how this guy deals with very practical topics. Btw, does a customised equaliser setting also affect the ambient mode audio?
Thanks! No it doesn't
@@aaronloudnwireless Got it👍🏽
Similar to mine, but I have the 16 further up for more air and extension. These sound really dark and muffled by default as anyone who has listened to audiophile gear knows.
This is my EQ that makes my XM5 sound natural and less muffled/boxy. I feel like the upper midrange is already elevated so I turn down 2.5KHz rather than up. Also, I always keep one band as reference point (0) to keep my EQ "normalized".
ClearBass: -2 | 400: -1 | 1K: 0 (ref) | 2.5K: -2 | 6.3K: +3 | 16K: +3
That’s an audiophile’s “clean up the mud” EQ curve if ever I’ve seen one! My Jabra 85T EQ is pretty similar.
Better question is why do they sound so poor out of the box? My brother bought them and I put them on and thought something was defective because they sound so muddy.
My pair sound good with android and ios , imac and smarttv
that’s the point of eq
Agreed. I just got these headphones today and they sound like all highs are missing. I put my Artic Pro Wireless gaming headset on and a night and day difference. If this can't be adjusted, they will be returned.
Depends on the phone you have?
Thanks for the help! I had these for a few days now and I always thought they had too much bass. I tweaked your settings a bit and it helped a lot.
Glad I could help!
Thanks Aaron. Best of luck in your new home!
Thank you!
As a lawn service guy who is in a loud environment pretty much all day everyday I was so excited for this headphones, specially for the noise cancelling. I was disappointed when I tried them on and the "noise cancelling" levels kept going all over the place and sometimes it made the noise worse. Idk if I got a bad pair but I had to return them and keep my xm4 earbuds which are amazing for noise cancelling
No, you are 100% right. It's most likely the auto-optimizer adjusting for different volumes outside. I think mine still do it, even with the auto-optimizer turned off. I'm hoping they fix this in their next firmware update. I like the ANC more on these XM5's more than my XM3's, because it's better quality.. But the ANC goes all over the place, and annoys me. Then they shut off randomly, and also stutter when listening through bluetooth. Like you'll miss a couple of words here and there. Lets hope a new firmware comes along and fixes them. I'm currently on 1.1.1 (If I recall correctly..)
While driving a semi for 10 hours a day.
I went with the 5s also for the same reason.
The noise canceling switches between transport n walking randomly!
Frustrating for sure! Hope a firmware will fix it!
Idk why the xm4 just sounds way better to my ears even after tweaking the xm5.. I own both and kind of regret buying the xm5 .. xm4 noise cancelling isn’t that bad and is still top of the line ..
xm5 given the choice again, I’d 100% stick to my xm4 and save the money for Bose NC 800 coming soon and it’s probably going to blow xm5 out the water.. and remember , bose is like the father of all noise cancelling headphones .. can’t wait to see what bose would have to offer, competition is a great thing so props to Sony for shaking things up in the noise cancelling headphones market.
As always great review :))
I learned so much, this was very helpful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Using 'Bright' as eq in my Sony wh ch720n....
It sounds phenomenal for me! ❤
Informative, professional, and easy to understand. Thank you, Aaron.
I just got them, and for the first time, I had to drop Clear Bass all the way to -10. I didn't have to for XM4, but the ANC really skewed things. The sounds with ANC vs. without are quite different.
How is this possible? I have it turned all the way up on mine and the bass is still way too weak. I'm starting to think I got a faulty device :-/
With Sonys deep pockets, you would think they would have made a better EQ platform!!
5 band is bare minimum and No parametric features!
They score low on this feature!
Really good share!!!!!
Larry
Great video, as always, Aaron. I am watching this cos I decided to ditch earbuds for reasons in favour of over ear headphones. My xm5s arrive today and I cannot wait to take them for a spin and this video was so helpful. Now I understand how the eq works and I cannot wait to play with it. Keep up the good work, man!!! 😀👍😀😎
Thanks for watching as always! Enjoy your new headphones 😁
i feel buds sound better
I think you should have made available the XM5's audio output with modified EQ as well in the comparison list for your members, that would have helped alot by understanding what the headphones are capable of. Already you have made available lots of videos for side by side comparison which are very helpful but with EQ modified settings it would have been extremely helpful. 😁
Absolutely. I'd really like to measure the real difference when at its best.
I love keeping equalizer off and love to listen music that way! Guess that the most natural way to appreciate music the way it's recorded. Twisting with equalizer made high, low and mid frequencies shifts and that either overshadow or undershadow other frequencies, which changes the balance of natural recorded sound in studio! This is personal thought and liking only!
Try this:
Clear bass +3
400 = 0
1k = +5
2.5k = +8
6.3k = +4
16k = +4
Best I've ever tried
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This sounds so tinny to me, no depth to any of the music here.
@@The_Lost_One do you have any eq setting for depth sound?
@@The_Lost_Onewhat’s yours
Just got those Today and need to say they don't sound as appealing as Technics A800 that I had to return due to Bluetooth issues which are unsolvable. Will try the EQ, possibly making sound less 'muffled' as you say. It indeed leans towards the more bass oriented sound which is not something I appreciate when listening to rock and metal :) Thanks for sharing!
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Thank you 😅
Sony really needs a 10 band EQ in their app, 5 band isn’t enough to fix the wonkiness in their tuning.
the upper bass in the 100-200hz region is super annoying on every XM headset since the XM3. Unbearable and cannot be fixed with the internal EQ without sacrificing either actual bass and/or mids. Always using an external EQ but will switch to the QC45 now, that my XM3s are broken and the XM5 don't sound much better either...
They should sound good right out of the box.
Wow.. trialled your settings m on some progressive! Massive thanks 🙏
Few reasons why as an audiophile I didn’t get these for listening and commuting .
1) it can’t fold
2) it still has the “dark” tuning although yes there are improvements to the bass
3) comfort to me is still an issue with these as my ear touches the lining.
Overall great video. Hope the EQ fixes things
Dark tuning is the biggest problem for me. An even bigger shame considering music preferences in the country they come from.
This Is Tech Today did a really good job fixing the darkness with his custom eq. I really like his eq settings but you can only see his settings if your a member of his channel. I agree Aaron Is Loud And Wireless custom eq is a bit dark sounding for my taste.
@@SigmaWolfGrindset but I believe the sound is toned for the sound being dark.
@@SigmaWolfGrindset Anyone with an understanding of how the frequencies work can no doubt make good settings even without using his own custom settings.
Thankfully I'm close to understanding it by using CD quality lossless audio, and then playing it back in Foobar2000 where both the spectrum and spectrograms display in real time.
At least, I'd recommend the use of that program a lot since it can help with deciphering frequencies.
My biggest complaint with these headphones is that the ear cups aren't deep enough. I don't find them uncomfortable, but my ears also touch the lining and I don't like that.
I don't consider myself an audiophile so they sound pretty good out of the box to me, but I did decrease the bass. These aren't as muddy sounding out of the box as previous models though. The main reason I didn't buy the XM4 was because I found the sound to be too muddy.
Good settings but I was missing some bass. Went with +3 👌🏽
Wow Thank you so much. I'm xm5 user and the sound is much clearer and fantastic doing this eq!! I subscribed your youtube right away!
Thanks for your sub! :)
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Thanks!
ti seguo da poco tempo ma ritengo che sei molto bravo e preparato nel tuo settore. complimenti e continua così
Thanks you so much, your share do my XM5 better so much.
No problem 👍
great tutorial , thank u!
where i can see your preferred EQ settings ?
My settings I arrived at were exactly as yours except I have a db of bass, still on the negative side of zero on my XM5s.
I think I prefer my XM4s, the only downside is the XM4s started making this really crappy nose as I run, like my ears are being plunged but not really
I came to the XM5's from my XM3's.. Did they just recently take the feature away that allows you to choose between Concert, or Arena, etc? I liked the Arena setting. Just made music sound better imo. Does anyone else make a bad habit of wearing them a LOT? Like to sleep even?
THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR
Thanks Aaron!
No problem!
I just bought these and found out if you turn anc off you get better quality out off it I spent £380 last thing I want is distortion In the music that's probably why anc is shit why can't we get good passive noise cancelling its not like you have yo use open back that makes it feel like a concert but portable wireless headphones for outside yes we do take a hit on that on that and a reduction is quality and not quite cd quality with bluetooth
The only thing that closed backs can do is just try and improve atmosphere and sound quality and CD quality audio
With anc headphones it's typically a balancing act. Good input
What about when you want to use the headphones with a headphone jack wire? The sound sounds awful when just plugged in.
Turn the headphones on while plugged in to make it sound better, you’re welcome
I think comparing with xm4 something is missing in xm5 bass not good
After tuning the XM5, how do they stack up against Bose headphones? I have tried the XM4 and QC35 II and I just prefer the clarity of the latter. Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks 🙏
Genial 👍🏼 muchas gracias es la configuración perfecta 😊
Please provide EQ setting for WH1000xm4 to sound like this.
Try this th-cam.com/video/db41kVy3jzw/w-d-xo.html
@@aaronloudnwireless I noticed in that video you opted to tone down on the mids and have a more recessed midrange. Has your audio preference changed from then to now ?
Finnish magazine *HIFImaailma 6/2021* (it's all in Finnish) tested Sony WH-1000XM4's. They showed their EQ-settings, too. Which I have'nt tested yet. So, feel free to comment.
They mentioned that Sony's EQ (in the app) affects the sound only via Bluetooth. XM4's got minuses, for example, from its excessive bass.
In case of "HIFImaailma", my expectation is that excessive upper Bass/lower mids is something they will attack first. Even with the cost of bit too weak low/mid Bass (Sony's app has only one general Bass setting...).
*Basic EQ of the Sony WH-1000XM4's mobile application*
400: 0
1k: 0
2.5k: +5 (yes, they only moved this one, to plus five)
6.3k: 0
16k: 0
Clear BASS: -4 (minus four)
*Equalizer APO*
120 Hz, -3 dB, shelf correction* (low)
132 Hz, -3 dB, Q: 0.9
1 110 Hz, +3 dB, Q: 3
1 490 Hz, -5 dB, Q: 4
2 470 Hz, +6 dB, Q: 2.5
5 070 Hz, -7 dB, Q: 8
6 540 Hz, +3 dB, Q: 5
8 130 Hz, -7 dB, Q: 7.6
9 000 Hz, -3 dB, shelf correction* (high)
*) In Finnish: hyllykorjain (hylly = shelf).
Few years earlier, that same magazine has tested XM2's (4/5 stars). Without any EQ-settings, *if* I remember right...
Quick search didn't find XM3's or XM5's, so perhaps they haven't tested those.
My own "Aaarghh, I give up!" -settings* *for XM4's* seem to be (vs. HIFImaailma):
400: -1 (one dB less than HIFImaailma)
1k: 0 (same)
2.5k: +2 (three dB's less than HIFImaailma) 🤔
6.3k: -1 (one dB less than HIFImaailma)
16k: 0 (same)
Clear BASS: -3 (one dB higher than HIFImaailma)
*) I remember going back forth, in 2021 propably, while testing several very different songs. Including sharp distortion guitars (I wonder how +5@2.5 will sound now....), thumping low bass, female vocals, audiobooks...)
I very rarely listen to rap, hiphop or rnb. Or metal with mostly "growling type" vocals. Unless they're part of the sound track etc.
@@AlricoAmona98 Similiar question for @aaron
The sound profile kinda hurt my ears.
Not the base, but the high frequencies actually
Hey! I just got these and I have adjusted the EQ when using Bluetooth, they now sound a whole lot better. However, when I’m using a chord, which I want to so I can really try and enjoy Apple Lossless, I can’t EQ them. It says I have to connect the headphones. Is there any way to do this? Because they sound very flat otherwise.
Oh, and I don’t know if it matters but I’m using them with an iPhone 13 mini
Thanks a lot in advance! :)
Great video, Can you give me the equiliser settings for the XM4. With the default profile, i feel like the sound is little muddy.
Thank you.
Check this out th-cam.com/video/db41kVy3jzw/w-d-xo.html
will this work for LG tv and movies?
Please give us a short video about your move. We want to hear. :)
05:06
Arent 6 bands a little bit to few?
So far i use one with 10 and it worked fine for me. Which one would you use?
This is the one that came with Sony's app. There are others with more bands of course but it's beyond the scope of this video. Used Wavelet for a while but not in love with it.
What do you recommend for a movie mode?
great video
Aaron, new firmware is here. Can you please test it out for us?
Nice!
So should I not add more clear bass
Thank you Aaron for sharing your knowledge, can you also please also share eq settings for passive listening? Tried wavelet they are horrible, it develops crackling noise listening to classical music and when used wired - sony sounds like cheap trash
yes we are waiting for this. while passive nc somebody is whispering in my ears.
what eq would you recommend for indie music like arctic monkeys, mother mother or the neighbourhood?
I'm so disappointed with the XM5s :(
Even with Clearbass at max and on top of that turned up with the Samsung settings app the bass is very weak and anemic. My old XM3s sound a lot better with a more fun and punchy sound.
That must be a defective unit. Out of the box the XM5 should be (too) bassy.
@@gwapster13 It's not... I've heard another pair of the same headphones. The bass is way too weak on these and you can't get that nice deep rumble like on the XM3 or 4.
I think I'll get the XB910, they might sound better...
@@lukastemberger Or maybe the fit isn't good for you? I know audio is very subjective, but it's very surprising to know that someone finds XM5's bass too weak. For some reason, you might not be getting the bass that it actually has. That's puzzling.
How to enable ldac on 1000xm5
Bluetooth settings
Help
can you do it for wh 1000m3?
After setting the Headphone under customs 1 or 2 as you show in your video it works, but the adjusted setting in EQ is not valid if you connect the Headphone to your PC or Laptop. Sorry but your information regarding this is wrong.
Sony's own EQ seems still the same, i.e. dissappointing. Since they're still aiming towards more upper bass (around *150 Hz* ):
* At least for me, 16 kHz is bit too high for a basic 5-band EQ (even teens don't always hear ~16 kHz)
* *400 Hz is way too high* as the lowest setting for any EQ
* Yes, there is that Bass slider, but... you can't use it to set preferred low/mid Bass, while *simultaneously* reducing upper bass/low mids.
* There isn't a *Hi-Fi preset,* i.e. one giving as straight response as possible.
* There isn't a Parametric EQ (frequency + width/narrowness, i.e Q-value + level). Sony offered them ages ago for AV Receivers.
* You can't "lock" headphones to one specific EQ-mode, no matter the usage case (cord/cordless etc.).
On the other hand... XM5's NC and long-term comfort seem to be further improved from XM4's. Those are major plusses for any NC headphones.
Also, _in some use scenarios,_ it's possible to use external EQ as a work-around.
I'm currently owner of XM2's (ear pads are visibly worn out and slightly too small, bit too much upper Bass/lower mids...) and XM4's (I almost returned them, because of the excessive upper Bass/lower mids...).
I soon gave up on Hi-Fi and just searched more bearable compromise. By reducing the upper Bass.
I tried to use XM4's simultaneously with both the mobile phone & Windows. But in long term, it just was too buggy. Perhaps the latest SW is much better vs. one several months ago?
In noisy office etc., XM's can be smarter choice, than any expensive Hi-Fi headphones.
It's just that with little more effort, they could be so much better...
Pretty sure the chances of Sony offering a pEQ are lower than Apple offering any EQ at all with their headphones. It sucks that these products are so dumbed for the average consumer. Like you say, it wouldn't be a huge amount of effort to include it.
The included EQ is enough to make these sound bearable, fortunately.
May I ask with which genre of music have you created this eq? Thank you
hi can you give me the eq file for windows pc APO/peace app/auto eq app ? thank you
How do you change the default volume?????
What eq would you guys recommend/use?
How close it sounds to Momentum 4 after playing with the EQ? Cz, I'm confused between them because I don't want to compromise on call quality and ANC, but also the I don't like the muddy audio of XM5 in the default EQ as audible in these videos.
Hello! Should the sound be worse while the headphones are wired (but power is turned off ) ?
I have a problem with M5 when I connect with bluetooth on mac. Is there any solution?
Hey do you know how to fix the sound leaking? Mine leaks so bad even at low volumes
The noise canceling doesnt seem to be still working on my sony xm5 is anyone else having the same issues
could you do it for the sony wh ch720n?
Are these good for running and workout?
They aren’t sweat proof
Does XM3 SUPPORT LDAC
You guys would hate my settings, but everybody’s ears are different.
Does anyone know why the eq doesn’t save when you wire it? Wiring the headphones should always sound better? Stuck between the m4 vs m5 leaning towards m4. Please lmk
Hello. Can I ask a silly question? Are they sweat resistant? couse my ears sweat a little while using them.
No they aren’t
hi, how about eq of xm5 connected to windows 11?
Sennheiser sound quality is on another level, sony just marketing for sound quality
My headphones just arrived today. No directions in the box. Nothing about an App. I had to Google why the audio sounds like crap and found this video. I'll give it a chance. However, right now, my Arctis Pro Wireless gaming headset sounds much better. So much more crisp and clear. These Sony's sound like I have earmuffs on muffling the outside audio. Out of the box garbage.
Hi Aaron can I check if you got your XM5 here in SG or overseas? I really wanna get the XM5 but every time I connect the XM5 from the display store to the Sony headphones app I couldn't fully use the features such as the toggle between ANC and Ambient, I also cannot activate LDAC unlike my XM4 earbuds. Is it because I'm testing the ones on display? I'm scared that if I were to buy one the same exact thing will happen and I wouldn't wanna waste $$$
I received a local unit, it’s all good. You have to activate LDAC from bluetooth settings
@@aaronloudnwireless thanks for your reply.... I did that and it works on my XM4 earbuds just not sure why it doesn't work on the XM5
@@notme6753 you tried it with the app?
@@aaronloudnwireless yup but I can't toggle the NC and ambient mode on the XM5 display/demo using the app unlike my XM4 earbuds... I can also enable LDAC on my XM4 but not the XM5. I really hope it's because I'm trying the demo version but I'm really scared to buy one
@@aaronloudnwireless Ooo i just bought the XM5 recently and thankfully mine has LDAC. But I'm still not sure why I can't enable the LDAC with the XM5 displays from the shop. Nonetheless I'm so happy with my pair of XM5... Not much improvements from my XM4 earbuds except the mike but still happy with it
Any idea why the sound gets lowered when turning EQ on in the app? When I turn it off (default) it gets slightly louder and punchier.
When adjusting EQ, you are manipulating the volume of various frequencies
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except it'd impossible for mine to pair to the fucking app
Sheesh everyone’s having problems with these headphones in general and they were expensive in my country and I’m getting mine today as a bday gift
I need a good equaliser so I’m browsing as I suck at setting that stuff
For the price these should have built in eq and be sweat proof and not have any issues
bass is not good in these
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