So what did we learn from this... that younger Dave was smarter and/or more tenacious than old Dave. :). It will be good to see the actual battery analyser gizmo.
I love these things. I cut out the analog meter on my Variac and installed one....had to relocate the power switch. Installed one into my DIY isolation transformer and DIY light bulb current limiter and multi-outlet power strip I use for my work.
You may struggle with running them from 5 Volts. At 11:44 the data sheet appears to say that the minimum supply is 7 Volts with a nominal of 9 Volts. These are also 'unipolar' i.e. 0 to 200 mV, so wont be able to show negative voltages in the case where a cell is getting 'reversed'.
An interesting long term experoment, with or without a 555 adding its magic. Would the battery holder placing the terminals in compression alter the leakage probability compared to those stored out of circuit ? Just curious !
Sorry to spoil your fun .... but I think you will find they are Jaycar QP5570 panel meters. They are 200mV meter which had a add-on panel for the back which had voltage dividers for various ranges.
@@watchmakerful You need more than 7V to get the internal reverence running, as it uses the analogue com pin as the reference negative. Running off 5V means you have to supply the reference externally, and then you have an external reference running between +5V and analogue common, which is a little above the 0V rail, and then connect this reference, which is 0.5 the desired full range, thus the cal pot, you have a 1V25 or 2V5 reference that has a divider with the pot to trim that makes a 100mv reference. you can use a 1V reference as well simply by changing the one resistor in the divider, at the expense of the internal opamps running into a slightly non monotonic region as they run into common mode range limitations. Not exactly the Intersil chip, but that design has been made into many chips as it is both reasonably linear, very easy to integrate into analogue processes, relatively immune to component drift, has nothing critical other than the reference and a short term stable clock. Also important is it is out of copyright and patent protection as well, and is a part of most silicon design libraries as a result of that.
Is 1.999 volt not just enough? For data-grabbing, get an old camera / phone and set it on time-picture. Makes nice video's with only one shot every hour or so.
Dave:Power pins, it's going to be obvious the're going to have them separated.
Apple:oops
So what did we learn from this... that younger Dave was smarter and/or more tenacious than old Dave. :). It will be good to see the actual battery analyser gizmo.
Maybe the L in DLJ stands for Lazy :D
I would have gone through the exact same process to figure out the CX101 for the original video, except that you didn't see the video of it.
Can't wait for the livestream! It'll be like an eevblog pitch drop experiment.
Thanks Dave for continuing to make videos. We really like/appreciate them. I know some other popular people got burnt out and quit uploading videos.😁
I love these things. I cut out the analog meter on my Variac and installed one....had to relocate the power switch.
Installed one into my DIY isolation transformer and DIY light bulb current limiter and multi-outlet power strip I use for my work.
You may struggle with running them from 5 Volts. At 11:44 the data sheet appears to say that the minimum supply is 7 Volts with a nominal of 9 Volts.
These are also 'unipolar' i.e. 0 to 200 mV, so wont be able to show negative voltages in the case where a cell is getting 'reversed'.
At first glance I thought Junkbin was one of those brands off AliExpress.
give it a week and there will be a supplier called that.......
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Loved It.👏
Gotta be honest... I miss the old intro. I would love to see it brought back, personally.
When you're done making this battery analyser, will you call it the "batteriser"? :)
Have finished!
Send one to Big Clive!
An interesting long term experoment, with or without a 555 adding its magic.
Would the battery holder placing the terminals in compression alter the leakage probability compared to those stored out of circuit ?
Just curious !
Sorry to spoil your fun .... but I think you will find they are Jaycar QP5570 panel meters. They are 200mV meter which had a add-on panel for the back which had voltage dividers for various ranges.
Letttts doooo the tiiiime-waaaarp aaaagain!
You want to run them in series 4 dodgy wall wart phone supplies, and wire to each board.
Nice, thanks!
Hey Dave! Serious question. What you think about gazillions different battery analyzers from aliexpress? Aren't they accurate enough?
I do lke a project on EEVblog 👍
ICL7107 clone meter, so you need a separate supply, or isolate the batteries, and use a 18m and 2M resistor for the range dropping.
ICL7106? External reference is strange, these chips have an internal reference source.
@@watchmakerful You need more than 7V to get the internal reverence running, as it uses the analogue com pin as the reference negative. Running off 5V means you have to supply the reference externally, and then you have an external reference running between +5V and analogue common, which is a little above the 0V rail, and then connect this reference, which is 0.5 the desired full range, thus the cal pot, you have a 1V25 or 2V5 reference that has a divider with the pot to trim that makes a 100mv reference. you can use a 1V reference as well simply by changing the one resistor in the divider, at the expense of the internal opamps running into a slightly non monotonic region as they run into common mode range limitations.
Not exactly the Intersil chip, but that design has been made into many chips as it is both reasonably linear, very easy to integrate into analogue processes, relatively immune to component drift, has nothing critical other than the reference and a short term stable clock. Also important is it is out of copyright and patent protection as well, and is a part of most silicon design libraries as a result of that.
Is 1.999 volt not just enough?
For data-grabbing, get an old camera / phone and set it on time-picture. Makes nice video's with only one shot every hour or so.
It's 199.9mV full scale
Isn't 200mV fine? Sure they'll overload for a while, but the leaking will happend when they're dead and surely below 200mV
What if they leak at 0.5V or something, would be good to know that.
I see a lot of digital panel meters forsale !
Time can be very unkind....cheers.
Old video not "a decade ago"... Two decades.
*queue MacGyver intro*
34970a ftw