My experience at working at the bank office is a bit different. When I started almost all the things i did was in some way helping custumers and the work really had meaning. The more time went on and the more strange regulations we got and the more questionable decisions made by upper management we got less and less effective and less and less time was useful work, the customers became less happy, new rules came from above to fixing the the problem makeing it worse and so on. When I quit it was like i had changed workplace dureing my time there.
It's kinda crazy how the older I get the more understanding I have for the people who just want to separate themselves completely from civilized society.
Which cant happen now because the fed will hung you down, turn public opinion against you then throw you in prison. Which is where vanguard has investments and makes money. Money they then invest in Twitter. Cuz they need to advertise the shit music their invested in. Wanna know why music sucks? The people releasing the music have investments in for profit prisons. They need the kids to imitate criminals.
@@shreksburgers I have played around with this thought myself. My conclusion is that the easiest, cheapest & safest way is to buy a boat that you can live in.
I had a real BS job some years back. So much so, that I mostly listened to podcasts and zoned out just hoping my coworkers wouldn't notice in our open office layout. One time I was listening to a podcast that interviewed Mr Graeber himself (RIP). He was talking about his book, which had just come out or was about to come out, I don't remember. In any case, he mentioned an email address that he set up for people to send them short descriptions of their BS jobs. So I wrote to the email address and explained about my BS job, while at my BS job. He actually responded. Just thought that was amusing.
Omg thanks for sharing. You don't know how happy this made me. He responded?!!!! 😂 ❤ so amazing. I love that so much. Especially that you did it at the useless job. Ugh so perfect.
I work as a Machinist. I literally make necessary precision parts out of metal stock. at least 30% of my day is filling out forms and meetings, and i spend the last hour screwing around wasting time, pretending to clean, etc because i don't want to start something before i leave. They force us to work overtime. Every Week, sometimes it's 8 hours of overtime a week, sometimes 16. Every hour of overtime i work is an hour of time i'm in the bathroom, walking around, getting a drink of water, playing with something, talking. The overtime is because the CEO and Shareholders predicted X amount of revenue and they are only getting about 60% of that, so the middle manager shoves overtime on everyone so it looks like he's doing something. There is absolutely 0 tracking of how much work anyone is doing, for the most part all the work anyone does is for their own pride and to not screw over the next guy at shipping or assembly. In spite of all of this, the place makes millions in profit and the total revenue grows 20% a year. Here's what i think, i think you could get rid of 90% of management and office staff, hire more actual workers, pay the actual workers about 4 times what you're currently paying them, let them work 20 hours a week, and then their wives wouldn't have to work either. All that extra time could be spent home schooling kids, growing a large garden or tending to livestock.
I experience this first-hand all the time. A solution (if you can really call it that) is to just do the job a little slower, but not slow enough for them to think you're lazy or something, so you have less time for them to chew your ass about "doing nothing"
@@chickenpasta7359 it would make me want to tell my boss the truth, so i could go home for 3/4's of the time, and suggest he still pay you the same. But obviously you're boss wouldn't go for it. He'd/She'd just tack on more work, send you home early without pay, or fire you. This world could be so much easier if people were more rational and honest. Most bosses are insecure control freaks, who are hiding their complex behind hard work. They think they work the hardest.. I was once that guy.. not all have complex that they hide with work.. but many egomaniacal bosses I've had do. Money sucks.. competition sucks.. its killing us and our environment. Which I'm sure you already know.. But fyck I'm sick of it . Anyways peace
Hits a bit too close to home. When I was a little school child, at first I tried to do my tasks diligently, so that I could finish and do whatever I wanted. Then my teachers would just pile on more work when I was finished. So, I stopped trying at all, and just passed time for 8 years of my life.
@@speedfastman yes, "harder tasks" I'd do addition and substraction between 0 and 100, and maybe there would be a single exercise among 50 that would include 104. It seriously always was just more of the same.
@@speedfastman If he's in the USA American education just isn't that good. He likely had some surley, stupid union hire who couldn't actually give less of a fuck about academics.
Speaking as a baker, ie, someone who’s busting my ass at 2am to make food for people, I’d be quite happy to do my job for no financial reward. Because I get to express myself creatively in my work and I simply make better bread than other people. I just want there to be a roof over my head, 3 days off a week and no hungry children in the world. I believe we have the technology for us to achieve that
@@3nertia If you are talking about Russia they never really had quality as we understand it. Things either worked and never really broke or never worked at all in the first place.
@@billalumni7760 Yep, that sums it up perfectly. You either have an item which works to this day for more than 40-50 years (I've seen a consumer grade fridge which was used outside for basically 10 of its last years, rusted so much that the compressor was lying on the ground, but still continued to work, and it still works), or you have a strange item which just never really works at all (ex. manual hair clipper, it supposed to work like clipper with electric motor but it lacks said motor so hair cutting becomes insanely painful so you would be better off using plain scissors).
I hate modern office jobs. I hate needing to ask permission to use my "earned" vacation time or "earned" sick time. I hate having others tell me what I should do with my time. The worst are micromanagers at the office. It's like their entire existence is to make others miserable.
That is called capitalism, which exists from the 16th to the 18th century in England. It did not exist since the Big Bang, and sure it will not exist forever either.
The economy has become so inefficient due to bureaucracy that I often wonder if I could get farther doing everything myself instead of specializing. What if I just quit my job and grew my own food, made my own soap, built my own house, etc? Oh yeah, property taxes and zoning laws. The Unibomber was right!
You wouldn't have to return to the stone age all the way. Just consider returning to pre-industrial rural country life of the middle ages, where a village was about the social coherence of specialized skills. Farmers were the majority, while a black smith, a baker and some other few trades were there to facilitate the small community. The horizon of such a community may have been rather isolated, but it was sufficient for the sustenance of life and some happiness. No need to wage war against other people with which you had no quarrel in the first place. No need to pay for services you don't really need. No taxes, except for the odd rural nobility that provided some protection and perhaps provisions for bad times. Unless some deranged king would have appeared to burden you with more taxes for the sake of his aspirations, but at least you could defy his influence under such conditions of difficult logistics and means of traveling.
It's a testament to how well we have it in the west that we can sustain such gross levels of inefficiency and not immediately collapse. It's quite fascinating.
It's because humans have figured out how to harness other sources of energy and transform it into work via machines. Instead of 25 men (powered by food) with shovels digging a foundation, we now have one dude with a diesel powered excavator. Same with farming. Instead of dozens of farmhands who all need to be fed themselves, we have tractors powered by fossil fuels. Most of our increase in quality of life comes from the ability to use other sources of energy, which is why it's so important that we transition to nuclear/solar/wind/etc. Fossil fuels have been great, but the party is soon going to be over and I'd rather not return to the 1700s.
@@thelight3112 yeah I know right How is it that nuclear power plants were shut down? What the actual fuck. I think it was Germany that completely shut all their plants down. People think of nuclear power and think it's something horrible but it's the safest and most effective right now. WAKE UP WHAT THE FUCK
i know a dude that is only 25 years old, hes a meat manager works at costco, he makes 70k-90k per year!, he only have worked in less than 2 years! this world is a mess
I used to work for an employer , a very very nice guy . Humble and respectful . He used always to come around the building and tell everyone to stop working and take some time off for the rest of the day no matter what . If you dont stop he will get upset with you . The sad story is he died in 2019 in a car crash . RIP
My boss is a nice guy, if we run out of work to do, we just sit around and bullshit while drinking beer. He really cares about the human aspect of his workers, so if something comes up in their life and they have to leave they always have a job when they come back.
- Get along - Look busy - Do the bare minimum looking proud and confident - Improve something = more work on you - Balance fake job (for more pay) and real skill (to translate into your life and future projects) - Build towards being a business owner
I can't imagine coding 8 hours a day for a work project. As I work from home I include cooking, weight lifting and chilling to those 8 hours. I think it is almost better if you take these breaks and let the back of your brain process things for a while, and then get back to it. Only a retard would sit on a bench 8 hours straight even if he were stuck doing nothing else than waiting for the work day to be over.
Yes, of course. There was a formal proof that we could all just switch to a 4 hour work day and live just as well if not better thanks to the free time, but there are contradictions in society which don't allow it to happen.
If you truly believed that you would have made your own company and took your old bosses customers over since you just cut your employment cost in half. In reality this is absolute nonsense that's why you are still an employee
@@metagen77 You way oversimplify the difficulty of setting up a new business. You really think some startup will replace any major corporation in the modern day?
There’s studies showing that people rarely do over 4 hours of productive work per day so the rest is just keeping you locked down and failing to reach your dreams
one of the biggest contributors to inefficiency in pretty much every job is that efficient and fast work is rewarded with more work rather than more leisure, more money or something else entirely.
My step-dad described to me a situation at his work when a light bulb in the break room blew. Instead of him or one of his workmates replacing it themselves, they had to call an on-site electrician to come do it for them because apparently you need authorisation to change a fucking light bulb. So a team of four electricians show up. Why four? Well there was - 1. One to change the bulb 2. One to hold the ladder the light bulb changer is standing on 3. One to cover the light switch with his hands so nobody accidentally turns it on 4. And one to keep an eye down the hallway outside the break room I was in absolute awe when he was telling me this shit. It's beyond parody, a LITERAL joke; "How many electricians does it take to change a light bulb?". Well now you know.
The company just wants to protect their ass if there ever was a workplace accident, so that they pay out as little insurance as possible. That's why they need all those pairs of eyes.
We work more nowadays than feudal peasants did. I think it's important to examine that we now have so little time for our own interests, raising children, connecting with out communities. How is it a bad thing that people work 20 hours a week, especially if both parents want to work outside the home and have time for everything else?
As someone who works full time retail at an understaffed but busy store it's crazy to think that I'm constantly working and busting my ass doing things almost nonstop throughout the day, and meanwhile there is supposedly huge amounts of people getting paid twice my wage to fuck around the whole time? And they're the ones sending us emails saying our bullshit metrics aren't good enough despite them having never set foot in one of our stores once in their entire lives? My roommate works from home as part of IT, and I get home from work after working 10 hours because someone called out and he starts telling me about what he did while playing Final Fantasy XIV all day. It's fucked. It doesn't make sense
Bro, I understand you totaly, my job is whole day of hard labor too, those people complaining about not working enough for their pay are the definition of "white people problems"
SAME. I don’t understand it either. Where are these good income non-Sensical do-nothing jobs where the work is completed in 3 hours and you screw around for the other 5?? It is very unrelatable and sounds like ‘privileged people problems.’ I’ve worked customer service on varying levels (Hotel front desk, retail, Coffee barista, sales supervisor, etc) and there was little ‘down time’ with any of them until the pandemic.
I work in IT for my state for hospitals, prisons, nature resources, etc. during the 3rd shift and I do like 45 minutes of work on my shift. I work 2 12 hour shifts, 2 8 hour shifts, then I am off for 3 days. I just got a raise as of 2 weeks ago and I play games, watch videos, eat food, and sometimes even sleep. Watching this vid and replying while “working”.
It's true. In retail, less workers means more time dinking around trying to hire people in order to impress HR because apparently it's the store's fault no one wants to work for toilet paper wages. Oh. And you have to stock, ring register, answer phones, emails, and a bunch of petty junk that keeps you from actually doing something productive. It's all about putting little fires out. All day long, lol. Gonna resign after 7 years of poor wages and nit-picky corporate shills trying to act important. Retail is brutal on management and employees. And they wonder why we've had 7 DMs in 7 years, my my my.
I read the entirety of "Bullshit Jobs" at my desk, in the office, on the clock, at work. Not on my computer screen, the physical, paper book. Dustjacket on, in full view.
Lawyer here. I worked in a large law office for about two months, assigned to a "team of two people" that handled lawsuits against a single credit card company. The job was entirely robotic and mostly pointless (the company often lost more than it won), but it was meticulously crafted solely to secure everyone's jobs. When I attempted to create a simple automation system (essentially merging Excel sheets with Word templates) and, unfortunately, shared it with my colleagues, they started piling more work on me until I eventually left. Moral of the story: if you're trying to simplify your work, don't tell anyone. Also, if you're not working from home the whole week, while at the office, pretend to be working your ass out and never tell anyone that you're taking a moment of ease on the job. Efficiency does not breed easiness, it only breeds more work.
Are u dumb? If you automate work, keep it secret. Never let the boss know the workers can actually do more, you be more efficient, workload goes up, wage stays the same.
When everything shut down in 2020, I still went into the office every day. At most there would be one other person there, instead of the usual 20-25. Eventually they fired everyone else. The exact same amount of work got done before and after.
@ManicMindTrick I don't know everyone's status because I wasn't the boss, just engineering. I know some people were contracts that weren't renewed, and some probably quit, there were plenty of people i didnt talk to regularly so I dont know if they got laid off or left. But we went from 21 to 3 in two years.
@meow purr this might work in some cases but as a maintenance mechanic in a factory, some days you can do all your work in 2 hours and there is fuck all to do so you fill it cleaning or bullshitting with your coworkers. Then there are days when you have to push yourself to the maximum to get your job done and maybe even have to work 12 hours for serious emergencies. And you can and will have multiple days like both in 1 week. 8 hours is generally a good compromise for this type of work. I have no clue why that 8 hour rule has now applied to every field even office work but it started in manual labor for these reasons and seemed to be adopted by jobs that don't need it.
@meow purr but then on 12 hour days im overworked by 6 hours instead of 4. 8 is the right balance. 8 in other jobs will almost never make sense. 8 in my job just makes sense.
I drive an 18 wheeler for a living. During the lockdown I didn't see my bosses for 3 years, as they were sheltering-in-place at home. Things sure ran smoother with them in the shelter. It was also nice to have the nonessential traffic off the roads. A 12 hour day became a 10 hour day because traffic wasn't clogged. Everyone who was on the roads during that time knew what they were doing, and where they were going. I definitely miss it.
The monetary system is the root of it all. I do wonder though, what would happen if BS jobs (which are most jobs) disappeared overnight? It makes me thinks of the scene in Idiocracy when Brawndo goes bankrupt because they start using water on plants instead of Brawndo. But half the world was employed by Brawndo, which leads to them revolting when they lose their jobs. I imagine it would ve similar here, a lot of people who are happy to get paid to do nothing would be upset that they would suddenly be expected to be productive in some way.
@@TupDigital Everyone should spend some time working a restaurant/hospitality type job. Best to do so while young. Side note: when did industry night (Tuesday evenings) disappear? Used to be that you could get a discount on industry night (at restaurants) if you informed the staff that you also worked in the restaurant/hospitality industry.
I said this my whole life. The "work" you do is not production, its just paying off your debt, education, cars, Healthcare, mortage... modern indentured servant.
@@gwills9337 Technically money started as debt then switched to scarcity then to debt again, debt predates money, it is just that along the way someone had the bright idea of giving scarce metals the value of money to make it more usable and tradeable, but those scarce metals are not valuable on themselves, they are scarce but not necesarly needed as much, the need for them came from debt. Originally money was created as a way of debt for soldiers in wars, you did not have the resources to pay them before the invasion, so you gave them a "salary" and then you go to war, conquest lands, rob the enemy and then your soldiers can exhange their salary for resources. That was the origin of money, a debt with soldiers for war.
Went from working at a huge corporate superstore to a locally owned, small business with only three other coworkers. Happiest I've been in a long time.
It's true I was working at a family buiness and then they just gave me the axe after 3 weeks cause they said "I wasn't cutting it" and "it's just not a good fit" always did what they said no one ever told me or gave me warning
@@justadummy8076 Nah. In most cases, small businesses can pay their employees better and provide better benefits. It comes with not maximizing labor efficiency. Just because the super corp has the money doesn't mean it gets invested into its workers, in fact, most large corps spend a significant amount of money and effort to pay their employees less and ensure they can't receive benefits. The money they do pay into employee benefits is often scraping the bottom of the barrel in regards to service and value, health benefits with huge premiums and vast restrictions. Small businesses, on the other hand, don't run labor cost-benefit analysis every quarter and pay their workers what they can afford to, sometimes even up to the actual monetary value of their contribution to the business. No corp is going to pay you fair value for your work. Small business benefits are good, because the owner had to shop around to find something with decent rates and benefits (since they'll likely be on the plan, too!) instead of going with the minimum legally possible to save the company money. Not that there aren't small business owners who undervalue their workers and cut corners, but corps are in the BUSINESS of maximizing efficiency and minimizing expenditure.
I once had a fake job like this... as a "marketing advocate" in an average 8 hour shift I would put up 1 poster and print out 1 promotional flyer. And read a couple of emails. Then I spent the rest of my shift going for coffee breaks or pretending to work on my computer and hoping no one noticed that I had literally nothing to do😂 Sometimes I had to order new marketing materials, or reorganize things in the stoage room.. but that was about it. It didnt take up even half of my shift. I felt like I was pretending to work.
I work for a fortune 100 company and there is BS jobs everywhere. Our IT department has something like a life coach..don't remember the title, but they literally join meetings and ask people to breathe deeply and stretch.
My best friend is working as an entry level consultant at IBM, hybrid work (remote and at the office). He does NO work and is making ~80k a year. One day we're hanging out at my place playing Roblox while he is on the clock and he says that he needs to attend 4 virtual meetings (between 4pm and 6pm). We played roblox until 5 minutes before each meeting, he joined the conference call and sat there waiting for clients from major Australian banks to join. Him and his manager wait until they decide 10 minutes in that the client's rep isn't coming. This happened for ALL FOUR MEETINGS! We sat there and drank beers playing Roblox for 2 hours, he studied for 4 years at a prestegious university to get this job.
@@55Andy555 it is standard to use media outlets to promote narratives. Its just marketing. And scummy. The fact that your first instinct is to recoil away from even the possibility of that basic building block of our society being reality serves to exemplify its effectiveness.
I had a white collar job once. I took over the job the previous guy had, and he became the “branch manager”. I did stuff about 40% of the time. I did it well and efficiently. It bothered the manager to no end! He sat in the next office and did almost nothing. Several times per day, he came out to pace in front of my desk and micromanage me. It apparently bothered him I could do his former job with barely an ounce of effort. When he took one of his five weeks of paid vacation per year, the office ran like a clock. The delivery guys said “I wish you were our manager”. The two salesmen said “I wish you were our manager”. Either myself or the “branch manager” was completely unnecessary. Yet, we both had jobs. It was brutal. Easiest job I have ever had, and I absolutely hated it. I figured most white collar nonsense was like that. I don’t believe I was wrong.
@@danieldanielson2650 There's an old bit of work from the elites where the idea was thrown around to make life like that so that the world would not be beautiful anymore; the miracles of life would fade away, and even the concept of God would seem unbelievable. They're succeeding.
now extrapolate it to CEOs. people clearing 100 million per year doing pretend jobs with factors behind success or failure being mostly outside of their control.
The comedian Bill Hicks had a brilliant piece on this, one of my favorites: Boss: "Hicks why aren't you working?" Hicks: "There ain't nothing to do boss." Boss: "Well then pretend that you're working!!" Hicks: "Why don't YOU pretend that I'm working?!"
I’ve come to realize that when older people ask me “What do you do?” it’s less wondering what my job is and more them saying “Please tell me the job you’re doing is more meaningful than mine.”
young people too! I am an INTJ analyst type and forget that so many people are driven by ego, social status, and all of the smoke and mirrors they've put up around themselves. I'm like gurl, I can tell it's all BS. What do you REALLY do
Define "meaning". What's meaningful to one is meaningless to another. Sports for example is a huge part of the lives of many millions (billions?) of people. So everyone who helps facilitates that industry, from the actual athletes to the guy selling the jerseys, serves a meaningful function. But not to me, because I don't like sports. I look for meaning in other things. Museums are wonderful for me, but other people find them tedious and boring. If your job isn't meaningful for you, then perhaps you need to look at your choices in life.
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”-Thomas Jefferson
Then this is not where you wanna be my friend, this guy’s solution is adopting the gold standard or bit coin. In the end just another useful idiot that changes nothing meaningful, he simply wants a more accurate hierarchy. His meat riding of big tech companies a obvious indicator. His insane dismissal of ubi (tho I don’t like it for different reasons) with no actual reason or evidence other than the conservative “the population is dumb and lazy, so it’s only natural to impose a hierarchy where I and others like me are at the top” I recommend anarch, some very informative videos on anarchism that if nothing else will show you a different perspective and what could be possible.
I got out with a stronger respect for hierarchy believe it or not. The infantry just convinced me that I had to be the one making the decisions about my own time and worth.
@@ortis_solis5700 if you are convinced thta you have to be the one making decisions for your own time and worth than by your own admission those are things that you would not be willing to let someone else decide, aka someone above you in an hierarchy, so your respect isn't so much for the hiarchy but in your own position of control within the hierarchy
Just a few years ago in Spain, there was a guy whose level of job importance was so low that he decided not to show up for work anymore, whilst still receiving his salary. Long story short, it took them not 6 days, not even 6 months, but a whopping 6 YEARS before they noticed and in 2016 finally decided to fine him for it. I almost don't blame the guy...
How could they possibly muster the courage to fine the guy for exploiting their own incompetencies? My my my this world is upside down over and over again.
See, I don't understand this. If he was able to accomplish all of his work for 6 years without ever actually showing up to work, then why was he fined? I feel like this reflects more on his poor management than anything. A competent manager would realize he wasn't doing anything and reassign him or let him go. That's not the employee's responsibility.
I just left a "ducktapper" job after feeling useless for a year... I must say: society as a whole needs to learn about "open source" softwares, these "proprietary" apps are such a plague... Microsoft Teams and Outlooks will destroy any fun you have doing these jobs. Trash-wares ! The whole part about subcontractors doing the work for the higher-ups is the most mind-blowing yet it is 100% true... It seems like they are so clueless about their job that they rather hire externally to avoid having their imaginary skill-sets scrutinised by internal employees.
My second real job, more than a decade ago, was two tasks : Browsing through the archives to find documents older than 7 years, making palets of boxes with documents in and then watching the contractor put them into a shredding machine. Watching construction workers build new offices in an already existing office, but higher ups wanted a more stylish office, my supervisor told me that I was doing my job too well and construction workers were feeling like I looked over their shoulders all the time, so I read the entire Lord of The Rings and Foundation books on the job. All of this was for a private multinational corporation.
@@kirillbrodski Yes! Awesome books. Asimov is a very talented writer. Read the 5 books of the Foundation series. My favorite was the first one, but the first three are the best. The Apple TV Foundation series pales in comparison to the books.
Im a production line forklift driver. I supply the machine with bottles, cartons, wrapping, lids, labels etc… Then I take the finished product to the warehouse. Back in the old days, admitting to such basic work was a little embarrassing… But now I’m actually proud to be blue collar.
@@muramasa870 truck driving is being cracked down on hard for going class conscious, they're managering all the regulars to death and replacing the majority of their workforce with immigrants so they stop unionizing -- do NOT become a trucker at least for the next few decades
@@victorochoa3662 haha yeah. Really graphic stuff. But it was quite comical because they used ridiculous props and tomato sauce blood. I got my license 21 years ago, so I’m not sure what they are showing people now.
I'm tired of working my ass off for peanuts just so these fake jobs can continue to exist. I'm an electromechanical engineering technician and can barely afford rent. The system is broken broken.
I agree. I use to be a lecturer in an Oman university(Nizwa-UTAS). My contract wasn't renewed because I wasn't following the method the university laid-out. No autonomy or academia was allowed, only procedure, policy and administration. Nauseating and soul destroying a toxic work environment -glad to leave.
The funny thing is that Minimum wage workers probably spend the most time actually working the tasks they were hired to perform... Yet they are still paid the least
I'm payed minimum wage to work in logistics and can confirm every single minute i'm on the clock I'm hauling boxes. If we get 10 minutes downtime between vans turning up it's a good day.
I got paid 14.50$ to work in this shit chicken hatchery that should have paid 25$ an hour. I was working 15 hour days for 14.50 an hour and I’ve done way less work for more pay.. really doesn’t make sense
@@andrewevans7992 No Problem Rather Stay with no Work or Cut the Hours in Half Max should be 8 Hours.. It has not Point working so many hours for Lower Pay .. Rather Search a Better Pay Job with less hours you do the next 10 Years or more
I realized this when I was in third grade when California passed a law where all drivers had to have insurance. I realized that laws could generate entire markets. I call them false markets.
That’s most markets for better or worse. Fundamental stuff like banks, utilities, construction, etc. If the law didn’t have building codes, you’d be living in a 3rd world favela made of silly putty. It’s not always a bad thing.
100% There are now entirely new departments on any movie / series set that concern themselves with how "covid-safe" the policies and spaces are. For example: COVID-19 logistics manager (??) set covid-19 compliance manager (???) covid-19 logistics asst manager - testing covid-19 logistics asst manager - ppe
@@callowaymotorcompany I realize that now as an adult but when I was a child I had no idea about how regulated our nation is. It's at a tipping point however because the governor expenditure is over half of the countries gdp meaning the parasite is now larger than the host. That's understandable.
Parkinson's law: work expands to fill the time. I work from home. Full time salary, I might do 20 hours of work on a good week because I drag things out -- which still impresses my manager. I've had weeks where I do literally nothing other than turn my computer on. I would feel bad, but someone has to steal wages from shareholders and executives and it might as well be me.
The american dream was built on the extreme excess of resources, essentially infinite land, etc. and could only continue to exist under that excess of resource. Once America was done settling we could no longer all work "useful" jobs, but we still had to sell things. Valuable hard work in the modern era is essentially a past truth.
I’m rather observant in my beliefs and try to do the best thing possible for myself and for everybody in all situations. I hold myself in high regards as a Jew but still feel like whenever I do what is “good”, I am slapped on the hand by a higher executive. High school, college, now office job, you name it. It is truly exhausting.
I almost feel like seething at the fact ive been working hard labor all my life, actually making useful tangible products, just to get financially dunked on by pencil pushers. A killdozer is starting to seem logical at this point
yea this is a bitter pill to swallow that i used my muscles and energy, threatened my safety, while some soft body made 4 times more than i did doing something not challenging and not directly useful like loading trucks and vehicles, what a ball buster
I thought I was working class but if most people with jobs don't actually do anything then I must be from slave class bc no one I know says their job is useless, or that they just sit there and do nothing. Most people I know either have tons of work or they get work in consistent weaves. Even if its just bureocracy is something that it needs to be done by someone.
Years ago (in the 80's I think), there was a story in "60 Minutes" about a Federal government employee who after a few years working in one job, he received a promotion to a job with literally no responsibilities, no supervisor, no goals, no performance metrics, no accountability, no reporting of any kind. It was some sort of middle management position, he had no one to manage but did get a large office with a wimdow. He could show up whenever he wanted (or not), and do literally anything he wanted to do. After a year of this, he got bored and actually TRIED to find work to do for his position, but was unsuccessful. Thats when he blew the whistle on himself and went to "60 minutes" with the story. Not sure this sort of thing still happens today, I imagine it does. 😮
THAT THE DREAM JOB! I want it! Get in do practically nothing but make money. So what do you do with that money? Invest start looking at stocks and start trading while working be retired in a couple of years
Before you get excited, his job was only possible as it was in the 80's and systems to prevent this weren't invented yet. Probably the breaking of this story back then forced the government to take action. I tried to find the original story, but have so far been unsuccessful.
My last job was taking CAD data already taken by a guy on-site, and turning into something that was usable by CNC machines. The kicker is that half my job was fixing his work, because when he first started 15 years ago, he was doing everything the most basic way possible. He never learned to do anything differently in that 15 years. So I was doing half his job, when a skilled templator could actually be doing most if not all of my job and my boss wouldn’t have to have someone in my position. I was also doing big parts of other guys’ jobs in the shop because they couldn’t speak English, couldn’t read, and couldn’t use computers. If that shop was set up correctly, probably 2 guys could have ran it instead of 8.
Can confirm. Worked as a contract worker for the government the last 6 months and goddamn is there so much taxpayer money wasted in redundant roles and meaningless activities.
I had a friend who worked in government, she did secretarial work, they just called it logistics for the navy, $60,000 a year in 2006, she was the productive worker that got harassed the most. government workers do not like productive people. she described most government workers as lazy and borderline psychotic. everyone above her made $90,000+ did absolutely nothing. they went to 4 to 5 meetings a day and had 1.5 hour long lunches. when she left, her job was given to 3 people 1 logistician and 2 junior engineers.
@@juliantheapostate8295 gotta fill out a requisition form for steve to get the sugar we all take 2 teaspoons but are told to write 4 so we get a bigger budget next year
When you realize tons of people are working from home, sitting there answering a few phone calls and filling out a few forms you realize it's fake. Funny part is they get paid decent money for that.
@@HisExcellencyx I hear you brother. What I'm saying is that stifling the worker has always been part of the plan. It's why it feels like we can't get ahead no matter how hard we grind.
Finally, first comment that understands the bigger picture. You getting peanuts is a side factor for them, the main goal is to keep you busy. I laugh when large earners work 50+hr weeks.. still a fail.
@@carsonhunt4642 You're right, bigger picture thinking is hard to come by. Every single decision they make is rooted in their desire to maintain control, anyone who doesn't see that can't see the bigger picture.
@@BigLu4right nothing to do with money everything to do with control and increased powers. Cults use overwork as a way to control the members and get them to do horrible things.
The economy is a system of slavery, mental and physical. Any way you try to get away from it, there's something that pulls you back. For pointless tasks in jobs , time is money, you waste time ,you waste money,paperwork is necessary for the person who's job is to do something with those papers, wether it's statisticians, auditors, lawyers, accountants etc. Most jobs don't contribute, but it's all needed to hold the system up. There are many jobs that are needed to uphold society from the ground up, technological, agricultural and security wise, the question is, really, has any of this made our lives better, or worse? How can we evolve as a species, if we are forced to be constantly trying to survive in a world where we HAVE all the resources for survival but not the access? The flip side is, those with everything need for nothing and have the time and energy to evolve in every way, they don't use their energy and time, they use YOUR,OUR energy and time, the gap ,naturally ,can only get bigger. Whatever the answer is, helping eachother for the sake of helping eachother and nothing more is a basis for our own evolution and liberation.
I work as an Electrical Engineer. 20% of my day is spent on power point, talking about what I did the previous day. 20% of my day is actual work. 10% is driving to the site and from the site. 10% is chit chat. 30% is youtube videos. 5% is responding to random calls/problems and lastly 5% is actual engineering. What pisses me off is that I didn't become an engineer so that I'd be in a separate class to the techs. I wanted to design airplanes and satellites and work with the techs to build better lives for them. Instead what I found was a group of people who thought that they were better than techs, paid them minimum wage and then sat at their computer playing candy crush.
I was recently able to be promoted from a tech to an engineer and I honestly am considering going back. I've never felt so useless and am considering taking a pay cut and going back to doing real work.
This "real work" you speak of is a pipedream, as is this idea that you're going to be designing airplanes. There's only a very small subset of the population doing those types of things, and they're already employed. Maybe find a different hobby and stop bitching
If I understand correctly, 0% of your day is spent on sex/mast? You should really dedicate at least 1% or 2% (15-30 minutes) or you'll end up with a prostate cancer...
As someone who has now worked 15 years in IT for various companies I can say that the whole 'work to earn a living' idea has degenerated to the point that not even children can believe in it. I have wasted so many years and damaged my back from sitting while scrolling shopping websites and listening to music during work hours. So many IT projects are just work for the sake of making managers happy, and big organizational projects have such a high failure rate that it is not even funny. If someone would to offer me a livable compensation to sit and not do anything but hobbies and learning interesting things I would happily take it.
@@metagen77 I do want to sit and do nothing; in fact, I've been sitting and doing nothing for years and I'd indefinitely remain as such were it not for the fact that, financially, it's unfeasible.
@@alternateperson6600 Granted there are some few who can but if you are anything like a normal human you will suffer. The most likely thing is that you did not do it long enough to become depressed by a lack of meaning. If you are not some intellectual or artistic outlier this will not be true for you.
@@metagen77 I guarantee you that even if I were to get a job, I'd not too long after be fired for insolence. Maybe normies indeed have such drab minds that, if not for porn, vidya or cuckflix, they need to perform menial tasks for many hours to feel invigorated and ward off boredom and intricate thoughts. I just find no excitement in routinely executing inane work for extensive periods, and I'd likely fail to concentrate on them or I'd shirk from them; all the more reason to deem the prospect of having a job loomy.
@@alternateperson6600 Having a menial task is not much different from having no task at all. You can only get a sense of meaning if your self determination needs (agency competency relatedness) is not being violated out of proportion. What people need is a meaningful way to pass their time and most peoples personality profile drive them to feel useful. Not everyone is like this, if you get fired for insolence your agreeableness may just be not suited for this. Open creative intelligent people need to persue their art or whatever captures their obsession. But realize that likely makes you a statistical exception. I'd say you need to spend twice the effort finding a job (or making it yourself) that fits you
Really can’t buy the vice versa. There’s many businesses running outside the clutch of the Gov here in the 3021. The council and police station is long gone and the crime rate has dropped. Population and property prices have peaked.
I was a security guard who study economics in my free time and my bosses made it a point to never let me use the computers on the job. It's really is just as bunch of miserable people trying to make just as miserable if not more so
No. Security guards can't mess around on the web. Put in a single earbud and listen to podcasts. Don't be stupid.....you aren't working if you're on a computer.
Oh it's everywhere like that. They have that notion that if they keep people miserable, then anything positive they do, will be praised immensely, which is exactly the opposite.
The best recent example we can point to was when Twitter cut 80% of staff. Everyone was like "how will they function". And there was no difference in service. That exact same cut can probably happen across most companies.
Spotify still has a terrible folder management system, the same one it's had for a decade. I signed up in 2011 or 2012 and it's functionally identical. Spotify has 9,473 employees. Wtf are they doing on a day to day basis?
I work as a software engineer and I can assure you, at least half those people are completely useless, the other half were likely working on side projects of the company, meaning not the core product the company sells. Tech companies tend to overhire A LOT.
I was a production planner. Goals to ship out millions a month. The erp was severely inaccurate, I couldn’t actually build anything because the inventory was soooo off. It was so stressful I’d throw up blood daily. A coworker created a system and it was near flawless. Would’ve saved us like, 20 hours in ot every week. They wouldn’t let us use his system. It was sick. I realized the system was to keep us sick and in the building on a hamster wheel. Eventually I stopped trying so hard but just said I was. And I kept being rewarded and promoted and even tho I never hit my goal, the numbers kept being met. Nothing added up. Nothing was real. So many roles, so much overlap, so many meetings, so many emails. Just a huge waste of time. I never looked back. I want those years back. Someone died on the clock. I’m front of us. He was replaced. A year later we scheduled a moment of silence and they had us skip it because that moment of our time to remember our colleague was too valuable.
Ive been working in multi-family housing maintenance for about 8 years now. I was one of the "essential workers" that kept working throughout the entirety of the pandemic. Never got hazard pay(which i believe im entitled to because of literally going in peoples sick homes), actually contracted covid and got very ill off it, and the entire corporate level got to work from home, didnt answer calls or emails, and when we did see them on zoom calls it was in theyre pajamas with a half-gone wine glass. Even with all of that, the necessary functions of the company still operated. Virtually nothing changed. Now, ive been working in Hotel Maintenance for the past 2 years and i do NOTHING. 70% of my day is spent scrolling on my phone. I have never clocked out with tasks still on my list. I dont think i have a "BS" job, but damn is it easy.
I think one of the easiest concepts I noticed at a pretty young age was rent or cost of owning a home. Those costs are completely artificial. The only thing that is real is the land that the house sits on. That's the finite resource. The money we pay for taxes on the house is fake. Doesn't it seem a bit convenient that most jobs give us just enough money to make these payments and have a little left over for food and clothes? Seems like someone is using our labor to their advantage. Who came up with this pricing scheme? What if taxes and rent were lowered? Production would halt because people wouldn't have to work as much. So in other words, everything is created to keep us working just enough to drive the economy, so we can make enough money to "pay our bills".
They'll tell you the free market decides pricing based on supply and demand.... But guess what. It's bullshit. Every market is owned, manipulated and carefully managed to always have a shortage even during abundance. Perfect example is the diamond industry. That's how it is for everything. The riches 10 percent own 85 percent of ALL assets, but a smaller percent of that 10 owns a majority. It's also designed that over time, the future generations pay the bills for today's generation. If all bills came due today, the system would fail. Part of why inequity is getting worse every year, is that the rich simply push the bills onto the poorest and the working class, who continue getting deeper in debt. The rich never pay the bill. Best scheme ever invented.
This dude found out what the economy is LOL. Its not some random dude behind the scenes manipulating all the prices. Its litterally basic supply and demand. If taxes and rent were lowered, people would just use that money to purchase even more goods, making them work harder in return, and keep the cycle going.
This is why I absolutely loathe hearing politicians talk about how they’re “creating jobs”. A politician’s idea of creating jobs is like this: “We could create 10 jobs by buying heavy machinery or we could create 100 jobs by buying shovels OR we could create 1000 jobs by buying garden trowels. Vote for me! I created 1000 jobs!”
well, if we have no way to distribute the distribute the income of the 10 heavy machinery jobs to the other 990 in the garden trowel timeline, then that is kind of a problem. We are going to get a lot more efficient very soon, so maybe we need to think about this. Idk if Andrew Yang had the right idea but he's at least addressing the issue
@@LordVader1094 I never said poor. Besides, why would you want to disincentivize becoming rich in the US? Higher taxes on the wealthy means they will simply take their business and their residence to another country where they are treated better and we miss out. This is already happening to an immense degree. Wanna talk about the hollowing out of American Industry? Higher corporate and individual tax is a big part of it. It also discourages people from becoming welathy. Why innovate or provide a good or service when half of the value of that labor will get forcibly taken? Not only would this idea not work. High taxes causes capital flight and punishes those who strive to provide the most value to society. But its also evil. It involves the violent confiscation of property against people's will. If we lived under a less oppressive regime taxation would be voluntary. People will gladly pay for a service they believe is important to them and for their neighbors. Under a voluntary system people would quickly discover how much of the state is utterly unwanted.
All higher taxes do is pass on higher costs to consumers. We should just pay for the welfare programs by printing money, and do away with the inefficiency of taxes. We all get taxed through inflation anyway.
i've gone from programmer to IT guy to cyber security and i've never felt essential. i have far more respect for construction workers than IT people, at least they build homes.
I was a PM for an IT team for 5 months. I do not think we made any progress on the 4 projects I was assigned. In retrospect, it seems like it was by design and I just didn't get that my job was to give the illusion of momentum. I don't know. I couldn't stand it.
Cheers Bro. Since the internet, we also get to study through podcasts all day- every day. That’s why I chose it. I have full control of my mind most days. A lot of tradespeople are better and much more broadly educated than university graduates these days. That doesn’t make the work easy though lol
@@Anomalyy666 You need either a bachelor's degree OR PROVEN EXPERIENCE w/ relevant skills (i.e. "learn to code"). Before you laugh, I actually did a coding bootcamp a couple years ago, and back in February I landed a job at a Fortune 500 company that pays $75K a year. Mind you, I ONLY have a high school diploma, no college at all.
1) Gather Resources 2) Make Stuff from Resources Gathered 3) Sell the Stuff you Made from Resources 4) Keep track of stuff you made/sold The only 4 jobs that count
I constantly hear this idea that people just sit around and do barely at work at the office, but every office job I've ever had has been about 10 hours of work being crammed into an 8 hour day. Teach me how to find these easy jobs.
@@SharockoRAZR He probably has a "B's job" but proved himself at work, so what they do when you're finished with work and actively pursue the higher ups to tell them; they just end up giving you more work to do.
Your just the dummy that does the work, other people in your office do the bare minimum, knowing that you are picking up their slack. I don't mean to insult you or assume you lack intelligence, but you believe that you need to be working that hard to be paid. The problem is once you show them that you can do more they will keep expecting you to do more and if you start to do less they will get rid of you and keep the nonproductive people who haven't had a "dip in productivity". So you'll keep working harder and they will give you the extra work that other people aren't doing. Basically you are a good employee and generally it pays less to be a good employee, unless you can collect overtime, that is when good employees actually earn what they are worth.
Get hired at any city, state, or federal agency doing ANY administrative position and you will be amazed at how little you will be required to do. Warning: If you have any sort of ambition, curiosity, or intelligence you will quickly grow frustrated and leave.
It’s funny I’m pretty sure that the 30% of useful jobs are mostly filled with right leaning people. It’s hilarious how people take advantage of others and than act better than you because they work a more “prestigious” job.
Yep! I am training as a counsellor, NOT a psychologist, a counsellor, that helps lost people put one foot in front of the other when they’re not feeling well and/or just don’t have the skills in knowing what to do next. Combination of shit schools and shit parents have created a huge market for this. A lot of psychologists are just self aggrandising grifters. Psychiatrists are even worse. I used to work in marketing but became aware of how useless I was to society
Basically the original jobs are the most real. Beyond that everything else is just increasing fake until you end up at an office to do logistics as a sub contractor for the shippers who move the farmers food. Then you get told your feeding America 🇺🇸 🙄
R&D? Yeh yeh a lot of research is trash and some development teams either have no idea what they are doing or are paid to pretend their making the impossible, but technology, from plows to servers, is what makes our prosperity possible.
I work as a freight broker My job is not essentially useless but it does not make a world a better place to live by any means The sole purpose of my job is to earn profit on reselling logistics services of other agents The amount of companies like mine is so high that literally nothing in the industry will change by any means if my company and other 100 alike companies will stop operations
@@profquad Doesn't really make sense to blame "capitalism" when we've seen the same thing even worse in every big time socialist country. It seems to just be a ubiquitous fact of our human condition.
@@55Andy555you actually see the opposite in socialism. Miners paid more than pencil pushers. Not many fluff jobs. Capitalism is the only thing to blame in fact, because it is the profit motive itself which pushes these types of jobs into existence.
@@profquadthat is absolutely untrue, and communist countries were notoriously bureaucratic and governmental administrative jobs were exactly what people were competing for. The reason it might feel this way is because none of them were ever rich or prosperous enough to develop the managerial class we see in the west, but that doesn’t mean that the difference between blue collar and administrator wasn’t large.
This is what I observed for a long time now. The modern economic model worked like a pyramid scheme. The bottom layers are farmers, builders, workers, 3rd world country slaves who provided most of the resources needed to sustain the system. While the upper levels provide less and less and basically piggyback on the lower levels. The question is why there are so many layers of the pyramid providing nothing. Well, they are there to either keep the system running (record keepers, etc) or to do the job to advance the system toward an agenda (researchers, etc). Only the top 1% of the pyramid know and control the whole system, the rest is pretty much ignorant of its agenda. I might sound like a conspiracy theorist but the system has a mind of its own who decided what would be the next milestone for "humanity", then hype up the population through media and the job market. The young population was manipulated into thinking this job was cool and well-respected in society. Then, they would fill in the demand of the system within decades to do its bidding. One might need to look at the whole internet bubble of the 90s and the ongoing AI trending to see how it works. I was once oblivious to this reality, as a matter of fact, I thought my job was a high-value asset of the society. Until the day I watched farmers work their asses off to provide food for hundreds of people. While as the same day, watching the politicians sitting on their asses doing nothing but to find a way to tax these farm owners more and more. I was sickened to my stomach and woke up to the reality from thence on.
See, what i don't get is why if you say something like this to a western conservative and liberal respectively, BOTH of them will become agitated and sometimes even offended???? like... with conservatives it's like your insulting "work ethic" and the importance of "entrepreneurship" (funny, because holy books actually stress a suspicion towards uber- business and wealth infatuation) somehow bringing down their identity as "self reliant" (my ass 😂) macho men who don't need no hand outs. and with liberals... it's always like they agree when you start talking, but then when you reach the point where their apathy towards the fact that their bullcrap lifestyles are running off the fumes of slavery and suffering starts being brought up, it cuts into their delusional western centric view of "victimhood" and "equity & equality" and they just start tuning you out to save face like cowardice children. 😂 and these are the same people who will go up and down about "DID YOU KNOW NAZI DID THIS, AND DID YOU KNOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID THAT!" while saying that abortion is killing "real human lives", and claiming that if you don't say someone's pronouns that's akin to murdering them in cold blood. all sponsored by *nike* what a joke.
I started working as a tech back in the early 1980s. There were 4 of us in the tech dept. At one point management brought in a quota system. Our department was given a quota to meet every business quarter. If we made quota, the quota was increased by 25% and another tech was hired on. If we failed to make the new quota, the least productive tech was fired and the quota reduced by 25%. After a couple years of hiring and firing technicians the management finally accepted the Pareto Distribution/Inverse Square Law was true, they had the proof. Namely, 50% of all work is done by an inverse square number of people employed to do it. So if a company employs 100 people, 10 of them do half the real work. Employ 1600 people in a company, 40 do half the work, and so on.
@@chrishoff402 Analogy doesn't work. Wouldn't that be because half the team is designated to be on the defence? Without a defence, you losing the puck/ball would be an immediate goal for the opposition, so unless the puck/ball is guaranteed to be in your possession more (good luck rofl) you need someone to be there when the opponent goes for goal.
@@to101md I haven't followed hockey for a while but usually 6 defensemen, 12 forwards and 2 goalies. You will get the odd Bobby Orr or Paul Coffey racking up big numbers, every team will want a sniper on the back end for the faceoffs. Usually it will be 4 forwards getting half the goals with the rest spread out around the rest of the team. The less skilled forwards succeed by denying the opposition any chances and potting the occasional one themselves.
You know the magazines at grocery checkouts...? I'm a merchandiser for a print media distribution company. Every week, I service 20-30 stores- I open up a few boxes of magazines at each location and throw last week's magazines back in the box and then in a compactor / dumpster. If 5% of the magazines sell every week I'd be amazed- no one buys them, they sit on shelf for a week waiting to be thrown away. And I get paid reasonably well to do this...
Once i read that medieval peasants, the most maligned position in history outside of slavery, worked less hours than we do and had far more time out of the job than we do, i became disillusioned with work. Ofc someone will retort with “they had more stuff to do at home” but thats not work. Work is your job. Its what you do for your employer, master, lord, liege, etc etc. Making your dinner, taking care of your stuff or family is not work. It’s basic subsistence and is infinitely preferable to work.
@@tairo1092i agree that they are two ideas born from the same evil, an evil that has developed in a complex and progressive manner over the centuries, but id not ascribe blame to the shtetlbillies. Their subversion and control could have only ever been exerted if our inner defense mechanism against it were prior stripped away by the subversion and outright destruction of them from our own kind.
I work in a convenience store with vegetables. Before this, I worked in a factory and the amount of satisfaction I get from what im doing now is actually so much higher. For the past 2 years I ve made sure people always like the section of the store i work in and I made many customer friends. Its sweet seeing people smile when u show them around. Having a job where u actually can see the impact is great.
The disconnect between doing work and earning money is palpable. Its a bell curve. Beyond a certain point, i'd say about 80k a year, people invariably do less work for more money. There are basically zero people who make 150k+ and come home covered in dirt, very rare exceptions like underwater welders and niche mechanics, etc. The best indicator for your future income is not how hard you work, it is your social standing and likability to your bosses. They value reliability, predictability, and compliance, not hard work. Meritocracy was always a joke.
Literally, my job is what you say “zero people” have. Don’t you realize that life is sooo much more complex than you realize? Don’t pretend you know things that you really don’t, it will stunt you.
Yea I make at least 10k every month and I take cash only baby! So do the math on that. I’m 40 been runnin and gunnin for 24 years. I have done all the blue collar stuff but right now I’m crushing with carpentry. I have found a niche installing feature walls (a geometric trim like design shot and glued onto their wall) Working for nice people, getting paid well, coming home covered in sawdust and paint lol. But this guy commenting must not be southern tho boy. Down here there’s lots of us making six figures in work boots. Shiiiiittttttt I’ve ran with Mexicans and El Salvadoran guys that make 20k a month doing stucco. None of us are no employee tho lol
@@matthewsmith2362 You are profiting off of the housing bubble. Wait until it pops and suddenly nobody needs new homes. Ask an old oilman how much he made during oil glut times. It wasn't unusual for them to work second jobs. Again, niche scenario, we cannot make the entire male population of America carpenters, if we did you would make far less money. Supply and demand, you are just in demand. By bad people, by the way, you are building assets, not homes. They exist to hold the value of money for somebody who probably already owns several homes. America actually has far more homes than it needs, its just that they are all new suburban shitholes for upper middle class parasites and as portfolio assets for the ultra rich, meanwhile low income housing is filled with illegal immigrants and working class people struggle to find affordable housing. I live in Richmond, VA, by the way, and rent anywhere in the city starts at $1200/mo not including utilities. I see new houses all the time and they are rarely inhabited, if they are the people living there will probably die before the mortgage is paid off.
@polska8765 Engineers are nowhere close to the highest paid workers, thats my point. All of the highest skill jobs are actually middle income. Most of the highest income jobs are bankers, stock brokers, hedge fund managers, CEOs, jobs that consist of arbitrary corporate appointees and money managers or people who quite literally kick their feet up and watch the money go brrrr, living life on easy mode, never actually doing any real work besides a handful of quick decisions like investments or managing staff that any reasonable person with the same info and education could make. The difference is that they are part of an obvious clique, a class even. The number of people who, in one lifetime, have worked service worker positions and ran a fortune 500 company are very few. Most poor people are born and die poor, most rich people are born and die rich. Social mobility is largely a myth, with certain exceptions.
honestly the largest problem is just the HR departments becoming the largest departments in nearly every company. why does some random lady who has never done the job, has 0 skills related to the job, receive 75k+? this is also a self-perpetuating problem, because HR needs to be useful, they find things to complain about. this leads to more HR people, now with specialties like sexual harassment trainers when HR shouldn't exist. you know who should review time off? the person deciding the schedule. you know who decides the schedule? the managers. why have a person manage people, just so someone else can also manage people.
Years ago I was almost written up for completing a task a full shift ahead of schedule. Reason given: it made the supervisors time management skills appear poor. I wish I was kidding.
My gf got written up because the job they had her on was supposed to produce 1,200 parts per shift, with an expected waste of 300 parts, because the machine would get out of adjustment every so often, and the operator would have to go get someone to fix it, then go back to work. She saw what the guy did to fix the machine, and so she would stop the machine now and then and check the adjustment, didn't go back to work. At the end of her shift, her supervisor came around with a clipboard to check off the number of good parts and bad parts, and the supervisor noticed that the waste bin was mostly empty. She asked my girlfriend why there weren't more bad parts, and when my girlfriend told her what she had been doing to keep the machine running right, the supervisor took her to the office for a lecture and a write-up. They literally didn't care about the fact that she had almost completely eliminated waste from that machine, it was just about meeting the expected numbers.
@@slappy8941 that's absolutely insane, i'm more convinced by the day, that to be any kind of manager, you first have to pass an IQ test, and it has to come back lower than 70
I got a job in IT two years ago. It was pure administrative BS, I automated everything. Literally, I haven't read or seen a single e-mail in over a year and a half (Is a remote job). I've already moved to another country, have a new job, and yet I'm still getting paid for my old IT job. Don't ask me how. I can't believe there's human beings going every day to the office doing something like this.
I’m a high school economics teacher at an international school in China. My job isn’t exactly pointless, but I feel 60%+ of it is essentially child care that is only needed because parents need to be at work for their pointless job, which renders that part of my job pointless by proxy. There is some “surrogate parenting” and contributing directly and indirectly to kids socialization and this part actually does feel rewarding and meaningful, but in practice it’s mostly just visibly exhibiting high future time orientation behaviors and self discipline hoping it will rub off. I felt so bad for the empty art room guard.
And just as school is daycare for them, teaching is daycare for you. Humanity is in a holding pattern now where the plates are being kept spinning while the powers the be figure out how to end it all in an organized fashion.
Education no longer educates people, it forms workers, that's why not just the art room is empty, but also humanities in universities are being relegated to the side, when not entirely dismantled.
I’m a 4th year hydrographic survey technician conducting bathymetric and geophysical surveys where I’m either collecting the data in the field, processing the data in the office, creating client deliverables, or writing reports while simultaneously managing a sector of our equipment and make $23 an hour…..let that sink in for all of you going into debt for a college degree….and I even have a legitimate degree that helped me get the job I currently have…..but I get paid peanuts for my time and effort….im slowly learning that overachieving gets me absolutely no where….its just makes the people above me look better.
The first 10 minutes makes me appreciate my self employed lifestyle a lot. I don't have enough work to fill 40 hours a week but everything I do is necessary and I agree that in previous office jobs a lot of the work was bullshit. I would do all my work in about 2 hours and then had to fill the next 6 hours and look busy.
@@processorbot8761 I automated a lot of my old departments work in a web app and my old employer is my sole customer using this web app. My work consists of gathering requests from the people working in the app and outsourcing the coding to programmers, I do have experience as a sys admin so I do take the sole responsibility to keep the application running and secured, no down time so far in about 3 years. Sometimes I will go a little crazy and have things added I personally think are good idea's. Tools I use are Git and Vim.
@@bioemiliano It is an option, however most of the work added is quite specific to my costomer's demands so it might not be straight forward to deploy the application to other companies. Currently my customer only uses my tool in 2 departments in only my geographical area but the company operates all over the world with many more types of departments so the true masterplan has always been to spread to their other geographical locations and departments. It might turn out to be naive if my customer stops using my product but I enjoy adding features more than spending time on marketing and trying to make the product more generic.
This is also telling you what to think, it's just a jaded 40 year old instead of a news company with a profit to turn. There's not as much difference between the two as I would wager you think
The problem is that people that work all their lives have no time to learn why they must work all their lives, from school days they are programmed to do things as everyone does, go to school, then get high degree and get a job, people must start question their own lives and why they are living like they live.
The trucking company I work for has a safety department that does completely nothing. My fleet manager does completely nothing but approve layover or detention. I am the one doing the job, they sit on their asses doing nothing but want to tell me how to do my job even though they have never driven a truck before.
I realized this 1 week into my first "Big Boy Job" in Corporate America. I probably actually work 1 hour out of the 8, and play video games for the rest of the day. Thank god that the work from home culture is starting to become a thing, otherwise I would probably go insane. I get paid pretty well for an entry level position which only requires very basic knowledge in my field. My realization is reinforced when my supervisor says that I regularly exceed expectations, during my review process.
My first time at the biggest company in its field involved my immediate colleague telling me his job wouldn't exist if others did their job right. Insane.
7 hours+ gaming, per day... That is very unfortunate, my brother. You are working a self admitted entry-level position with a basic knowledge requirement. You might get away with messing around now, but you wont stand long with those habits. You should be spending that 7 hours working on an above entry-level position, with a higher than basic knowledge requirement. In order to do that, you need to apply yourself. I hope you find something else soon to do with that time other than play video games. Not to mention I'm sure your first "Big Boy" job in "Corporate America" wouldn't be too stoked to hear that you're pissing away their resources working from home, playing video games, and doing the bare minimum for their company. Quit kidding yourself and straighten out your act, brother. Please.
It's true. Most of us don't do anything important. We're just moving around and finding things to distract and convince ourselves that what we do matters. Even the people with "important" jobs are so specialized and compartmentalized that they are tired of the monotony and routine.
I'm so glad I never went to college. Never once questioned if my job actually needs doing. The answer has always been "if we dont do this the world kinda stops turning"
If you never had a life goal before college, you weren't prepared for it anyway. Not going was a good decision (this is not a jab, too many students go to college and get a diploma they never use).
@@scrittle No I understand, I never had life goals not career related ones anyway, most of the people I know who did have them never realized them anyway because they're just not smart or dedicated enough. Every girl in class saying she wanted to become a marine biologist ended up pregnant or in rehab by the time they were 23, so it could have been worse for me lol
The moment I started working at the bank, I immediately knew this. My friend put it best: We're not even the cogs in the machine. We're the grease.
lol good one
Former banker. Big fax
Damn..
Lmao
My experience at working at the bank office is a bit different. When I started almost all the things i did was in some way helping custumers and the work really had meaning. The more time went on and the more strange regulations we got and the more questionable decisions made by upper management we got less and less effective and less and less time was useful work, the customers became less happy, new rules came from above to fixing the the problem makeing it worse and so on. When I quit it was like i had changed workplace dureing my time there.
It's kinda crazy how the older I get the more understanding I have for the people who just want to separate themselves completely from civilized society.
too bad it's so hard without the resources and when you're surrounded by those who don't know life outside of civilized society ...
well, "civilized"
That's actually happening
Which cant happen now because the fed will hung you down, turn public opinion against you then throw you in prison. Which is where vanguard has investments and makes money. Money they then invest in Twitter. Cuz they need to advertise the shit music their invested in.
Wanna know why music sucks? The people releasing the music have investments in for profit prisons. They need the kids to imitate criminals.
@@shreksburgers I have played around with this thought myself. My conclusion is that the easiest, cheapest & safest way is to buy a boat that you can live in.
I’m only 20 and I totally understand haha
This video really hits different when you watch it in your office at work…
...watching it in your home office remote "working"
@ka yu It's extremely inconsistent
>____ hits different
shieet mane fr fr no cap
@@redd_cat popular phrase bad
@@CyberAndy_ ok thats actually bad
I had a real BS job some years back. So much so, that I mostly listened to podcasts and zoned out just hoping my coworkers wouldn't notice in our open office layout. One time I was listening to a podcast that interviewed Mr Graeber himself (RIP). He was talking about his book, which had just come out or was about to come out, I don't remember. In any case, he mentioned an email address that he set up for people to send them short descriptions of their BS jobs. So I wrote to the email address and explained about my BS job, while at my BS job. He actually responded. Just thought that was amusing.
What was the bs job😊
@@BlueTable-t6kHe said office. Like most ppl who work bs jobs its always some office sht
Omg thanks for sharing. You don't know how happy this made me. He responded?!!!! 😂 ❤ so amazing. I love that so much. Especially that you did it at the useless job. Ugh so perfect.
Always remember: never do more than the bare minimum. Do it nice and clean, but never go the extra mile, or your sole reward will be more work.
Learned that lesson early in life too, haha. Never offer to help with extra junk because they'll ask you again next time it happens.
How do you expect to grow if you don't challenge yourself?
@@EugeneF15 challenge yourself with your own projects that actually add value to your life. Not work bullshit
@@MrPianoMatt12 Wouldn't doing both be better for you, offering increased positive results.
@@EugeneF15 yeah good point
I work as a Machinist. I literally make necessary precision parts out of metal stock. at least 30% of my day is filling out forms and meetings, and i spend the last hour screwing around wasting time, pretending to clean, etc because i don't want to start something before i leave.
They force us to work overtime. Every Week, sometimes it's 8 hours of overtime a week, sometimes 16. Every hour of overtime i work is an hour of time i'm in the bathroom, walking around, getting a drink of water, playing with something, talking. The overtime is because the CEO and Shareholders predicted X amount of revenue and they are only getting about 60% of that, so the middle manager shoves overtime on everyone so it looks like he's doing something. There is absolutely 0 tracking of how much work anyone is doing, for the most part all the work anyone does is for their own pride and to not screw over the next guy at shipping or assembly.
In spite of all of this, the place makes millions in profit and the total revenue grows 20% a year.
Here's what i think, i think you could get rid of 90% of management and office staff, hire more actual workers, pay the actual workers about 4 times what you're currently paying them, let them work 20 hours a week, and then their wives wouldn't have to work either. All that extra time could be spent home schooling kids, growing a large garden or tending to livestock.
Whaat would these managers do? They need to buy Porsches.
I Like It
Based, maybe it shall be so
Congrats on being a capitalist slave, this is what happens when you comply.
I agree 100%
Everything's fake but the struggle is still real.
@@norumi.phantasie that's the stupidest shit I ever heard
@@norumi.phantasiethe fuck are you on about?
@@norumi.phantasieWhat does telling people what to do block?
Masterfully put
@@norumi.phantasie Should I cleave my butt to release more chakra?
TH-cam has been recommending me this video, not even kidding, the last 2 years.
Lol same I finally clicked it
Literally same
my shock when i realize all the comments are from 2 years ago
I watched the entire thing 2 years ago and it’s still recommending me it lol
It comes up in my feed at least once a month...
One of my peeves is when a boss says he doesn't pay us to stand around, when everything is already done. Looking busy is out right sadism
I experience this first-hand all the time. A solution (if you can really call it that) is to just do the job a little slower, but not slow enough for them to think you're lazy or something, so you have less time for them to chew your ass about "doing nothing"
@Arqouda for real.. I've done that too.
Still disgusts me though. But hey..at least we aren't alone in recognizing that bullsht
@@Arqoudasame thing children do when they don't want to do the thing they are asked
3/4 of my job is literally just pretending to be busy
@@chickenpasta7359 it would make me want to tell my boss the truth, so i could go home for 3/4's of the time, and suggest he still pay you the same.
But obviously you're boss wouldn't go for it. He'd/She'd just tack on more work, send you home early without pay, or fire you.
This world could be so much easier if people were more rational and honest.
Most bosses are insecure control freaks, who are hiding their complex behind hard work. They think they work the hardest.. I was once that guy.. not all have complex that they hide with work.. but many egomaniacal bosses I've had do.
Money sucks.. competition sucks.. its killing us and our environment.
Which I'm sure you already know..
But fyck I'm sick of it . Anyways peace
As someone who has gone from soul crushing, hourly job to something intellectually stimulating and creative.. it’s insane how much it lifts the spirit
What career did you switch to?
@@searedscallops318 programming
That's nice to hear, I'm saving money so i can quit transportation to be able to become a TH-camr and a professional athlete.
@@SaltandDragons Good luck on being a celebrity on TH-cam you'll need it.
lollll you look at code all day and the owner make all the money. sorry but dont brag about being a nerd and cuck and liking it.....
Hits a bit too close to home. When I was a little school child, at first I tried to do my tasks diligently, so that I could finish and do whatever I wanted. Then my teachers would just pile on more work when I was finished. So, I stopped trying at all, and just passed time for 8 years of my life.
Me too!
They probably gave you harder tasks so you could excel faster though. I agree it feels discouraging though.
@@speedfastman yes, "harder tasks" I'd do addition and substraction between 0 and 100, and maybe there would be a single exercise among 50 that would include 104.
It seriously always was just more of the same.
That's why you finish early, but don't tell anyone and spend the rest of the lesson messing around with your friends.
@@speedfastman If he's in the USA American education just isn't that good. He likely had some surley, stupid union hire who couldn't actually give less of a fuck about academics.
Speaking as a baker, ie, someone who’s busting my ass at 2am to make food for people, I’d be quite happy to do my job for no financial reward. Because I get to express myself creatively in my work and I simply make better bread than other people. I just want there to be a roof over my head, 3 days off a week and no hungry children in the world. I believe we have the technology for us to achieve that
But if anyone asks I’m calling myself an anarcho communist btw. I would work and sacrifice to feed those fucking kids
I’d struggle to eat something made by anyone who’s up at in the dark of 2am limping around with a busted ass. Even if it was just the hole, dry barf.
In the Soviet Union they had a saying, 'They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work'.
Can't imagine why the quality of goods has declined drastically in the last 60 years ...
@@3nertia If you are talking about Russia they never really had quality as we understand it. Things either worked and never really broke or never worked at all in the first place.
@@billalumni7760 Wasn't stuff like that in the 60's in America and Japan?
@@fran2911not really, back then there were a lot more companies than we have today
@@billalumni7760 Yep, that sums it up perfectly. You either have an item which works to this day for more than 40-50 years (I've seen a consumer grade fridge which was used outside for basically 10 of its last years, rusted so much that the compressor was lying on the ground, but still continued to work, and it still works), or you have a strange item which just never really works at all (ex. manual hair clipper, it supposed to work like clipper with electric motor but it lacks said motor so hair cutting becomes insanely painful so you would be better off using plain scissors).
I hate modern office jobs. I hate needing to ask permission to use my "earned" vacation time or "earned" sick time. I hate having others tell me what I should do with my time. The worst are micromanagers at the office. It's like their entire existence is to make others miserable.
I don't ask permission - I simply tell them when I'll be taking time off.
@@WorldPowerLabs chad activities
It creates work therapists!
Tried self-employment?
That is called capitalism, which exists from the 16th to the 18th century in England. It did not exist since the Big Bang, and sure it will not exist forever either.
My 90 year old grandma always reminds me “have a nice day and dont work too hard”
90 years being nothing but Based and workpilled
We just have to sit their for 7.5 hours, maybe make a baseball spreadsheet.
Smart
@@CarbonTaxLOL😂
That is why he is happier and got a better time in Old Age
The economy has become so inefficient due to bureaucracy that I often wonder if I could get farther doing everything myself instead of specializing. What if I just quit my job and grew my own food, made my own soap, built my own house, etc? Oh yeah, property taxes and zoning laws. The Unibomber was right!
UNAbomber get it right sheesh
Fr lol
FACT!
Ted Kaczynski was definitely right.
You wouldn't have to return to the stone age all the way. Just consider returning to pre-industrial rural country life of the middle ages, where a village was about the social coherence of specialized skills. Farmers were the majority, while a black smith, a baker and some other few trades were there to facilitate the small community.
The horizon of such a community may have been rather isolated, but it was sufficient for the sustenance of life and some happiness. No need to wage war against other people with which you had no quarrel in the first place. No need to pay for services you don't really need. No taxes, except for the odd rural nobility that provided some protection and perhaps provisions for bad times. Unless some deranged king would have appeared to burden you with more taxes for the sake of his aspirations, but at least you could defy his influence under such conditions of difficult logistics and means of traveling.
It's a testament to how well we have it in the west that we can sustain such gross levels of inefficiency and not immediately collapse. It's quite fascinating.
It's because humans have figured out how to harness other sources of energy and transform it into work via machines. Instead of 25 men (powered by food) with shovels digging a foundation, we now have one dude with a diesel powered excavator. Same with farming. Instead of dozens of farmhands who all need to be fed themselves, we have tractors powered by fossil fuels.
Most of our increase in quality of life comes from the ability to use other sources of energy, which is why it's so important that we transition to nuclear/solar/wind/etc. Fossil fuels have been great, but the party is soon going to be over and I'd rather not return to the 1700s.
@@thelight3112 yeah I know right
How is it that nuclear power plants were shut down? What the actual fuck. I think it was Germany that completely shut all their plants down. People think of nuclear power and think it's something horrible but it's the safest and most effective right now. WAKE UP WHAT THE FUCK
@@thelight3112 and still even finer forces in the ether are available for the harnessing!
I think of it like evolution and mutation. Most mutations are bad and destroy the organism, but eventually all the good mutation survive.
It is going to collapse. Between July and October 2O25
what blows my mind the most is that the more fake your job is the more money you make
Crazy upside down world we live in is t it?? 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏾♂️
No? Whatever gave you that impression? Do you think Jeff Bezos has the fakest job in the world?
i know a dude that is only 25 years old, hes a meat manager works at costco, he makes 70k-90k per year!, he only have worked in less than 2 years! this world is a mess
except deepsea welders, I trust their work is real and their pay is deserved
The pay is for control and loyalty of the person.
I used to work for an employer , a very very nice guy . Humble and respectful . He used always to come around the building and tell everyone to stop working and take some time off for the rest of the day no matter what . If you dont stop he will get upset with you . The sad story is he died in 2019 in a car crash . RIP
My boss is a nice guy, if we run out of work to do, we just sit around and bullshit while drinking beer. He really cares about the human aspect of his workers, so if something comes up in their life and they have to leave they always have a job when they come back.
@@HonkHill-ev4hkThis is how you make an enjoyable work environment and keep your staff
@@HonkHill-ev4hk
Protect him, @ all cost!
That's some great bosses. Bringing the best from people by just being human.
I’m so sorry 😢 may he rest in peace
- Get along
- Look busy
- Do the bare minimum looking proud and confident
- Improve something = more work on you
- Balance fake job (for more pay) and real skill (to translate into your life and future projects)
- Build towards being a business owner
I was a business owner. Trust me its all the same
@@jezzdogg6857what business did you own?
I'm a programmer at a technology company, and I'm convinced that we'd be just as productive if we worked 20 hours per week instead of 40.
I can't imagine coding 8 hours a day for a work project. As I work from home I include cooking, weight lifting and chilling to those 8 hours. I think it is almost better if you take these breaks and let the back of your brain process things for a while, and then get back to it. Only a retard would sit on a bench 8 hours straight even if he were stuck doing nothing else than waiting for the work day to be over.
Yes, of course. There was a formal proof that we could all just switch to a 4 hour work day and live just as well if not better thanks to the free time, but there are contradictions in society which don't allow it to happen.
If you truly believed that you would have made your own company and took your old bosses customers over since you just cut your employment cost in half.
In reality this is absolute nonsense that's why you are still an employee
@@metagen77 You way oversimplify the difficulty of setting up a new business. You really think some startup will replace any major corporation in the modern day?
There’s studies showing that people rarely do over 4 hours of productive work per day so the rest is just keeping you locked down and failing to reach your dreams
one of the biggest contributors to inefficiency in pretty much every job is that efficient and fast work is rewarded with more work rather than more leisure, more money or something else entirely.
@Phillip Ramos Can't tell if you're joking or not lmao
@Phillip Ramos Having people paid for their time instead of their production is another issue with our economy.
commission based jobs rewards you for your effort
@Phillip Ramos that sounds like a killer gig, wish I had work that is that straightforward
That, and the wage structure incentivizes less productivity, since you are paid based on hours worked rather than tasks completed.
My step-dad described to me a situation at his work when a light bulb in the break room blew. Instead of him or one of his workmates replacing it themselves, they had to call an on-site electrician to come do it for them because apparently you need authorisation to change a fucking light bulb. So a team of four electricians show up. Why four? Well there was -
1. One to change the bulb
2. One to hold the ladder the light bulb changer is standing on
3. One to cover the light switch with his hands so nobody accidentally turns it on
4. And one to keep an eye down the hallway outside the break room
I was in absolute awe when he was telling me this shit. It's beyond parody, a LITERAL joke; "How many electricians does it take to change a light bulb?". Well now you know.
Sounds like a state-contracted union shop if ive ever heard one....supreme waste and redundancy as a rule.
I see this in Japan on a sometimes daily basis.
Were the electricians Polish?
☻
The company just wants to protect their ass if there ever was a workplace accident, so that they pay out as little insurance as possible. That's why they need all those pairs of eyes.
I got a good one:
How many therapists do you need to change a light bulb?
One, but the light bulb has to embrace change.
We work more nowadays than feudal peasants did. I think it's important to examine that we now have so little time for our own interests, raising children, connecting with out communities. How is it a bad thing that people work 20 hours a week, especially if both parents want to work outside the home and have time for everything else?
As someone who works full time retail at an understaffed but busy store it's crazy to think that I'm constantly working and busting my ass doing things almost nonstop throughout the day, and meanwhile there is supposedly huge amounts of people getting paid twice my wage to fuck around the whole time? And they're the ones sending us emails saying our bullshit metrics aren't good enough despite them having never set foot in one of our stores once in their entire lives?
My roommate works from home as part of IT, and I get home from work after working 10 hours because someone called out and he starts telling me about what he did while playing Final Fantasy XIV all day.
It's fucked. It doesn't make sense
Bro, I understand you totaly, my job is whole day of hard labor too, those people complaining about not working enough for their pay are the definition of "white people problems"
SAME. I don’t understand it either. Where are these good income non-Sensical do-nothing jobs where the work is completed in 3 hours and you screw around for the other 5??
It is very unrelatable and sounds like ‘privileged people problems.’
I’ve worked customer service on varying levels (Hotel front desk, retail, Coffee barista, sales supervisor, etc) and there was little ‘down time’ with any of them until the pandemic.
I work in IT for my state for hospitals, prisons, nature resources, etc. during the 3rd shift and I do like 45 minutes of work on my shift.
I work 2 12 hour shifts, 2 8 hour shifts, then I am off for 3 days. I just got a raise as of 2 weeks ago and I play games, watch videos, eat food, and sometimes even sleep.
Watching this vid and replying while “working”.
It's true. In retail, less workers means more time dinking around trying to hire people in order to impress HR because apparently it's the store's fault no one wants to work for toilet paper wages. Oh. And you have to stock, ring register, answer phones, emails, and a bunch of petty junk that keeps you from actually doing something productive. It's all about putting little fires out. All day long, lol. Gonna resign after 7 years of poor wages and nit-picky corporate shills trying to act important. Retail is brutal on management and employees. And they wonder why we've had 7 DMs in 7 years, my my my.
same, i need me a fuckin office job 😳
I read the entirety of "Bullshit Jobs" at my desk, in the office, on the clock, at work. Not on my computer screen, the physical, paper book. Dustjacket on, in full view.
Lol Epic
What's your job title, just out of curiosity?
Based.
THIS COMMENT IS GOLD
What an absolute lad.
Did anyone comment on it?
Lawyer here. I worked in a large law office for about two months, assigned to a "team of two people" that handled lawsuits against a single credit card company.
The job was entirely robotic and mostly pointless (the company often lost more than it won), but it was meticulously crafted solely to secure everyone's jobs.
When I attempted to create a simple automation system (essentially merging Excel sheets with Word templates) and, unfortunately, shared it with my colleagues, they started piling more work on me until I eventually left.
Moral of the story: if you're trying to simplify your work, don't tell anyone. Also, if you're not working from home the whole week, while at the office, pretend to be working your ass out and never tell anyone that you're taking a moment of ease on the job. Efficiency does not breed easiness, it only breeds more work.
And contempt. Efficiency breeds lots of contempt from the 80% of coworkers that would, or could, never perform the same.
Lies again? Monster Jobs Miami Jurong
We got a saying here: If you accomplish a miracle, your boss will make it your job description.
Thank you
Are u dumb? If you automate work, keep it secret. Never let the boss know the workers can actually do more, you be more efficient, workload goes up, wage stays the same.
When everything shut down in 2020, I still went into the office every day. At most there would be one other person there, instead of the usual 20-25. Eventually they fired everyone else. The exact same amount of work got done before and after.
Wait, what percentage of workers got laid off?
These stories never tell what the job their doing is, where or what company, i smell lies tbh
@@BlueTable-t6k maybe or you are just being paranoid/cynical.
@ManicMindTrick I don't know everyone's status because I wasn't the boss, just engineering. I know some people were contracts that weren't renewed, and some probably quit, there were plenty of people i didnt talk to regularly so I dont know if they got laid off or left. But we went from 21 to 3 in two years.
@@Ian-ig4ho oh I see. Thats one helluva lay off! You dont have to out yourself by mentioning the company but what sector is this?
The Post-industrial society and its consequences.
monka
Turns out it was a success!
@meow purr this might work in some cases but as a maintenance mechanic in a factory, some days you can do all your work in 2 hours and there is fuck all to do so you fill it cleaning or bullshitting with your coworkers. Then there are days when you have to push yourself to the maximum to get your job done and maybe even have to work 12 hours for serious emergencies. And you can and will have multiple days like both in 1 week. 8 hours is generally a good compromise for this type of work. I have no clue why that 8 hour rule has now applied to every field even office work but it started in manual labor for these reasons and seemed to be adopted by jobs that don't need it.
@meow purr but then on 12 hour days im overworked by 6 hours instead of 4. 8 is the right balance. 8 in other jobs will almost never make sense. 8 in my job just makes sense.
has been a disaster..
I drive an 18 wheeler for a living. During the lockdown I didn't see my bosses for 3 years, as they were sheltering-in-place at home. Things sure ran smoother with them in the shelter. It was also nice to have the nonessential traffic off the roads. A 12 hour day became a 10 hour day because traffic wasn't clogged. Everyone who was on the roads during that time knew what they were doing, and where they were going. I definitely miss it.
I miss it too. No fear based individuals were out and about
Which is why it's nuts that people think WFH is bad. The benefits to air quality alone would be worth it
Imagine if half of the workforce decided to stay home, strengthening their families. Clear roads, less middle management, fewer HR nonsense
Ngl man Covid were great times for everybody who went outside 😂
@@jen-cy6wj fear based? you mean following science and ability of foresight or common sense?
Only 5% of your office time taking a dump??? Those are rookie numbers. I aim for a minimum of 20% toilet time. And that's just before lunchtime.
I'm taking a dump right now and have done about 15 hours of work this week
@@cozza819 Jedi Master level ;)
Lucky you
@stewh174 thank you sir, I'm drunk rn
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The monetary system is the root of it all. I do wonder though, what would happen if BS jobs (which are most jobs) disappeared overnight? It makes me thinks of the scene in Idiocracy when Brawndo goes bankrupt because they start using water on plants instead of Brawndo. But half the world was employed by Brawndo, which leads to them revolting when they lose their jobs. I imagine it would ve similar here, a lot of people who are happy to get paid to do nothing would be upset that they would suddenly be expected to be productive in some way.
Two keys words I learned at my first job while in high school, “Look busy.”
That's something I had to learn the very hard way!
At my first job in HS, I learned, " _fucking say BEHIND YOU in the kitchen_ !!"
It was an adjustment for sure, but stuck w me forever.
stop....i am busy
or you don't interest me
....kind of thing
That’s what i learned in school
@@TupDigital Everyone should spend some time working a restaurant/hospitality type job. Best to do so while young. Side note: when did industry night (Tuesday evenings) disappear? Used to be that you could get a discount on industry night (at restaurants) if you informed the staff that you also worked in the restaurant/hospitality industry.
I said this my whole life. The "work" you do is not production, its just paying off your debt, education, cars, Healthcare, mortage... modern indentured servant.
Money is debt, without debt there would be no money, look it up
@@Ares01008 Hey genius - debt based money was invented 50 years ago. Money used to be based on scarcity - gold, silver, etc
@@gwills9337 "money used to be based" that's based, until the Hebrew nation attacked
@@gwills9337 Technically money started as debt then switched to scarcity then to debt again, debt predates money, it is just that along the way someone had the bright idea of giving scarce metals the value of money to make it more usable and tradeable, but those scarce metals are not valuable on themselves, they are scarce but not necesarly needed as much, the need for them came from debt. Originally money was created as a way of debt for soldiers in wars, you did not have the resources to pay them before the invasion, so you gave them a "salary" and then you go to war, conquest lands, rob the enemy and then your soldiers can exhange their salary for resources. That was the origin of money, a debt with soldiers for war.
@@Ares01008 Mark, you're dumb, but not stupid.
Went from working at a huge corporate superstore to a locally owned, small business with only three other coworkers. Happiest I've been in a long time.
How much is the money ?
Are you making more or less
@@satyam168most likely, small businesses can’t really compete with big businesses when it comes to employee benefits
It's true I was working at a family buiness and then they just gave me the axe after 3 weeks cause they said "I wasn't cutting it" and "it's just not a good fit" always did what they said no one ever told me or gave me warning
@@LuisFlores-mc2tc this happens in relationship too
@@justadummy8076 Nah. In most cases, small businesses can pay their employees better and provide better benefits. It comes with not maximizing labor efficiency. Just because the super corp has the money doesn't mean it gets invested into its workers, in fact, most large corps spend a significant amount of money and effort to pay their employees less and ensure they can't receive benefits. The money they do pay into employee benefits is often scraping the bottom of the barrel in regards to service and value, health benefits with huge premiums and vast restrictions. Small businesses, on the other hand, don't run labor cost-benefit analysis every quarter and pay their workers what they can afford to, sometimes even up to the actual monetary value of their contribution to the business. No corp is going to pay you fair value for your work. Small business benefits are good, because the owner had to shop around to find something with decent rates and benefits (since they'll likely be on the plan, too!) instead of going with the minimum legally possible to save the company money. Not that there aren't small business owners who undervalue their workers and cut corners, but corps are in the BUSINESS of maximizing efficiency and minimizing expenditure.
I once had a fake job like this... as a "marketing advocate" in an average 8 hour shift I would put up 1 poster and print out 1 promotional flyer. And read a couple of emails. Then I spent the rest of my shift going for coffee breaks or pretending to work on my computer and hoping no one noticed that I had literally nothing to do😂
Sometimes I had to order new marketing materials, or reorganize things in the stoage room.. but that was about it. It didnt take up even half of my shift. I felt like I was pretending to work.
How can I apply hahaha
I work for a fortune 100 company and there is BS jobs everywhere. Our IT department has something like a life coach..don't remember the title, but they literally join meetings and ask people to breathe deeply and stretch.
lmaooo talk about working hard to make a living
a yogi?
Hell he's doing more than any managerial assistant or nine tenths of the HR department already!
I can also confirm working for a top 500 company that the amount of wasted labour is off the charts with people that just exist in their positions
Is the title “Office Clown?”
My best friend is working as an entry level consultant at IBM, hybrid work (remote and at the office). He does NO work and is making ~80k a year. One day we're hanging out at my place playing Roblox while he is on the clock and he says that he needs to attend 4 virtual meetings (between 4pm and 6pm).
We played roblox until 5 minutes before each meeting, he joined the conference call and sat there waiting for clients from major Australian banks to join. Him and his manager wait until they decide 10 minutes in that the client's rep isn't coming. This happened for ALL FOUR MEETINGS!
We sat there and drank beers playing Roblox for 2 hours, he studied for 4 years at a prestegious university to get this job.
What job title does he have?
@@jsmith108entry level consultant of some kind.
yeah this world 2024 is becoming a joke now
Why can't I get something like this?
@@Mammon08 bcuz we aint playing roblox while drinking bears i guess
This video immediately made me feel proud that I run a janitorial business and I try very hard to keep things looking clean. My job is real.
What places do you keep clean?
commercial stores@@tamarinds
SAME HERE DUDE! WE CLEAN THE WORLD
Respect
RESPECT
Not convinced the "no one wants to work" mantra wasnt a cover story by big business for reducing costs by reducing employees
It's not like they need an excuse to fire people. Not sure the need to jump straight to conspiracy.
@@55Andy555 it is standard to use media outlets to promote narratives. Its just marketing. And scummy. The fact that your first instinct is to recoil away from even the possibility of that basic building block of our society being reality serves to exemplify its effectiveness.
@@biggringus5499 Well that's a first. Someone telling ME I'm not being skeptical enough about a potential conspiracy theory.
@@55Andy555 ... ok bud
@@biggringus5499 We don't always have to be hostile on the internet. Have a nice day.
I had a white collar job once. I took over the job the previous guy had, and he became the “branch manager”.
I did stuff about 40% of the time. I did it well and efficiently. It bothered the manager to no end! He sat in the next office and did almost nothing. Several times per day, he came out to pace in front of my desk and micromanage me. It apparently bothered him I could do his former job with barely an ounce of effort.
When he took one of his five weeks of paid vacation per year, the office ran like a clock. The delivery guys said “I wish you were our manager”. The two salesmen said “I wish you were our manager”.
Either myself or the “branch manager” was completely unnecessary. Yet, we both had jobs.
It was brutal. Easiest job I have ever had, and I absolutely hated it.
I figured most white collar nonsense was like that. I don’t believe I was wrong.
Men must provide actual value to feel fulfilled.
It's paid, because you have to endure that BS which drains energy and your soul.
Felt that way in retail, people just ruin each other's lives for little reason.
@@danieldanielson2650 There's an old bit of work from the elites where the idea was thrown around to make life like that so that the world would not be beautiful anymore; the miracles of life would fade away, and even the concept of God would seem unbelievable. They're succeeding.
now extrapolate it to CEOs. people clearing 100 million per year doing pretend jobs with factors behind success or failure being mostly outside of their control.
The comedian Bill Hicks had a brilliant piece on this, one of my favorites:
Boss: "Hicks why aren't you working?"
Hicks: "There ain't nothing to do boss."
Boss: "Well then pretend that you're working!!"
Hicks: "Why don't YOU pretend that I'm working?!"
Hahaha hahaha facts!
You mean Alex Jones 😜
heres tom with the weather
@@MikaMitenaLives...no.
@@MikaMitenaLivesnice lol
I’ve come to realize that when older people ask me “What do you do?” it’s less wondering what my job is and more them saying “Please tell me the job you’re doing is more meaningful than mine.”
young people too! I am an INTJ analyst type and forget that so many people are driven by ego, social status, and all of the smoke and mirrors they've put up around themselves. I'm like gurl, I can tell it's all BS. What do you REALLY do
These comments are full of people doing the same thing
@istvanpraha I think most people are driven by paychecks and then just use ego, status, and yada-yaga to make it through bs conversations.
Define "meaning". What's meaningful to one is meaningless to another. Sports for example is a huge part of the lives of many millions (billions?) of people. So everyone who helps facilitates that industry, from the actual athletes to the guy selling the jerseys, serves a meaningful function. But not to me, because I don't like sports. I look for meaning in other things. Museums are wonderful for me, but other people find them tedious and boring. If your job isn't meaningful for you, then perhaps you need to look at your choices in life.
nah, I just think its interesting to find what people do for the majority of their waking hours
I have been saying all of this is fake since I was 17. That's when I realized.
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”-Thomas Jefferson
All that is old is new again. Shame we're at the point of no return with this now.
Summed it up perfectly
It’s crazy how they knew where we were heading just didn’t know how long/ how bad it could/would really end up
Well, I mean, the fed isn't exactly private, but still holds up.
@@18aplateindoorsi always wonder how they know so much
I went into the military with a strong work ethic, i came out with a strong resentment for hierarchies
Then this is not where you wanna be my friend, this guy’s solution is adopting the gold standard or bit coin. In the end just another useful idiot that changes nothing meaningful, he simply wants a more accurate hierarchy. His meat riding of big tech companies a obvious indicator. His insane dismissal of ubi (tho I don’t like it for different reasons) with no actual reason or evidence other than the conservative “the population is dumb and lazy, so it’s only natural to impose a hierarchy where I and others like me are at the top”
I recommend anarch, some very informative videos on anarchism that if nothing else will show you a different perspective and what could be possible.
I got out with a stronger respect for hierarchy believe it or not. The infantry just convinced me that I had to be the one making the decisions about my own time and worth.
And the ability to sham
@@ortis_solis5700 if you are convinced thta you have to be the one making decisions for your own time and worth than by your own admission those are things that you would not be willing to let someone else decide, aka someone above you in an hierarchy, so your respect isn't so much for the hiarchy but in your own position of control within the hierarchy
sounds like my brother's who was in the Marine Corp.
Just a few years ago in Spain, there was a guy whose level of job importance was so low that he decided not to show up for work anymore, whilst still receiving his salary. Long story short, it took them not 6 days, not even 6 months, but a whopping 6 YEARS before they noticed and in 2016 finally decided to fine him for it. I almost don't blame the guy...
How could they possibly muster the courage to fine the guy for exploiting their own incompetencies? My my my this world is upside down over and over again.
That dude is a beast
that is absolute madness , like really absolutely pathetic
See, I don't understand this. If he was able to accomplish all of his work for 6 years without ever actually showing up to work, then why was he fined? I feel like this reflects more on his poor management than anything. A competent manager would realize he wasn't doing anything and reassign him or let him go. That's not the employee's responsibility.
@@zachurich5046 The point is that there was basically nothing to accomplish. Google it, you can read the story.
I just left a "ducktapper" job after feeling useless for a year... I must say: society as a whole needs to learn about "open source" softwares, these "proprietary" apps are such a plague... Microsoft Teams and Outlooks will destroy any fun you have doing these jobs. Trash-wares ! The whole part about subcontractors doing the work for the higher-ups is the most mind-blowing yet it is 100% true... It seems like they are so clueless about their job that they rather hire externally to avoid having their imaginary skill-sets scrutinised by internal employees.
My second real job, more than a decade ago, was two tasks :
Browsing through the archives to find documents older than 7 years, making palets of boxes with documents in and then watching the contractor put them into a shredding machine. Watching construction workers build new offices in an already existing office, but higher ups wanted a more stylish office, my supervisor told me that I was doing my job too well and construction workers were feeling like I looked over their shoulders all the time, so I read the entire Lord of The Rings and Foundation books on the job. All of this was for a private multinational corporation.
Would you recommend the Foundation books?
@@kirillbrodski Yes! Awesome books. Asimov is a very talented writer. Read the 5 books of the Foundation series. My favorite was the first one, but the first three are the best. The Apple TV Foundation series pales in comparison to the books.
@@francisrobindaine-duchesne6095 did you read the hobbit and silmarilion?
@@Carlosdreamur Yes I did, not on the job though, I have them in my bookshelf.
@@francisrobindaine-duchesne6095 nice
Im a production line forklift driver.
I supply the machine with bottles, cartons, wrapping, lids, labels etc… Then I take the finished product to the warehouse. Back in the old days, admitting to such basic work was a little embarrassing… But now I’m actually proud to be blue collar.
Proud here too, brother. Pallets and forks for days !
I LUUUV blue collar workers. Most blue collar workers practically build the world in my opinion...or well the cities which we now live in. Thank you.
I wanna be truck driver not a fucking engineer😢
@@muramasa870 truck driving is being cracked down on hard for going class conscious, they're managering all the regulars to death and replacing the majority of their workforce with immigrants so they stop unionizing -- do NOT become a trucker at least for the next few decades
@@victorochoa3662 haha yeah. Really graphic stuff. But it was quite comical because they used ridiculous props and tomato sauce blood. I got my license 21 years ago, so I’m not sure what they are showing people now.
I'm tired of working my ass off for peanuts just so these fake jobs can continue to exist. I'm an electromechanical engineering technician and can barely afford rent. The system is broken broken.
Lol I'm a Kenyan and we get beaten like hell in schools to come out and hutsler bud , the system is mad broken here
@@RobertGithinji-e5u it's broken everywhere
Bro I'm trying to an electrical engineering degree, fuq you mean you can't pay rent? Makes me question things niw
@@scalaxl40 ım an electrical eng student too its one of the best degrees. Dont worry.
@scala_xl engineering technicians aren't paid as much as engineers. We can do the math but we also turn the wrench.
I agree. I use to be a lecturer in an Oman university(Nizwa-UTAS). My contract wasn't renewed because I wasn't following the method the university laid-out. No autonomy or academia was allowed, only procedure, policy and administration. Nauseating and soul destroying a toxic work environment -glad to leave.
The funny thing is that Minimum wage workers probably spend the most time actually working the tasks they were hired to perform... Yet they are still paid the least
I'm payed minimum wage to work in logistics and can confirm every single minute i'm on the clock I'm hauling boxes.
If we get 10 minutes downtime between vans turning up it's a good day.
That is the Key keep the best people with low pay so they work the more years
I got paid 14.50$ to work in this shit chicken hatchery that should have paid 25$ an hour. I was working 15 hour days for 14.50 an hour and I’ve done way less work for more pay.. really doesn’t make sense
@@andrewevans7992 No Problem Rather Stay with no Work or Cut the Hours in Half Max should be 8 Hours..
It has not Point working so many hours for Lower Pay .. Rather Search a Better Pay Job with less hours you do the next 10 Years or more
@Chris-fe6ku The More you are Paid the less stress you got from other things and can have a easier mind doing WORK for years
I realized this when I was in third grade when California passed a law where all drivers had to have insurance. I realized that laws could generate entire markets. I call them false markets.
The mandatory auto insurance scheme could be a podcast all its own.
That’s most markets for better or worse. Fundamental stuff like banks, utilities, construction, etc. If the law didn’t have building codes, you’d be living in a 3rd world favela made of silly putty. It’s not always a bad thing.
@@callowaymotorcompany I mean people in this country weren’t living in silly putty houses back then either….
100% There are now entirely new departments on any movie / series set that concern themselves with how "covid-safe" the policies and spaces are.
For example:
COVID-19 logistics manager (??)
set covid-19 compliance manager (???)
covid-19 logistics asst manager - testing
covid-19 logistics asst manager - ppe
@@callowaymotorcompany I realize that now as an adult but when I was a child I had no idea about how regulated our nation is. It's at a tipping point however because the governor expenditure is over half of the countries gdp meaning the parasite is now larger than the host. That's understandable.
Parkinson's law: work expands to fill the time. I work from home. Full time salary, I might do 20 hours of work on a good week because I drag things out -- which still impresses my manager. I've had weeks where I do literally nothing other than turn my computer on. I would feel bad, but someone has to steal wages from shareholders and executives and it might as well be me.
what's your job?
lmao, nice
@@bigboss-wr5hb Senior accountant at a very big company that you've heard of.
@@ifonlyeverything Always knew you guys were a waste of good protein.
@@fterimage its better than spending protein in greedy shareholders that just make money freeze or finance yatches
The american dream was built on the extreme excess of resources, essentially infinite land, etc. and could only continue to exist under that excess of resource. Once America was done settling we could no longer all work "useful" jobs, but we still had to sell things. Valuable hard work in the modern era is essentially a past truth.
having principles in this country is EXHAUSTING
Aptly stated
I’m rather observant in my beliefs and try to do the best thing possible for myself and for everybody in all situations. I hold myself in high regards as a Jew but still feel like whenever I do what is “good”, I am slapped on the hand by a higher executive. High school, college, now office job, you name it. It is truly exhausting.
Ya, but not having principles makes me feel shameful. Nothing is worse the feeling shameful. I'll take the exhaustion every day of the week.
Amen
I almost feel like seething at the fact ive been working hard labor all my life, actually making useful tangible products, just to get financially dunked on by pencil pushers. A killdozer is starting to seem logical at this point
You sound like my friend. Who I also work with.
@@BigEvan96 based
Bro don't flex your power level. This is no longer a safe time to be doing so. But based and Ted pilled.
yea this is a bitter pill to swallow that i used my muscles and energy, threatened my safety, while some soft body made 4 times more than i did doing something not challenging and not directly useful like loading trucks and vehicles, what a ball buster
I thought I was working class but if most people with jobs don't actually do anything then I must be from slave class bc no one I know says their job is useless, or that they just sit there and do nothing. Most people I know either have tons of work or they get work in consistent weaves. Even if its just bureocracy is something that it needs to be done by someone.
Years ago (in the 80's I think), there was a story in "60 Minutes" about a Federal government employee who after a few years working in one job, he received a promotion to a job with literally no responsibilities, no supervisor, no goals, no performance metrics, no accountability, no reporting of any kind. It was some sort of middle management position, he had no one to manage but did get a large office with a wimdow. He could show up whenever he wanted (or not), and do literally anything he wanted to do. After a year of this, he got bored and actually TRIED to find work to do for his position, but was unsuccessful. Thats when he blew the whistle on himself and went to "60 minutes" with the story.
Not sure this sort of thing still happens today, I imagine it does. 😮
That sounds like heaven. I would never blow that whistle.
THAT THE DREAM JOB! I want it! Get in do practically nothing but make money. So what do you do with that money? Invest start looking at stocks and start trading while working be retired in a couple of years
please tell me the name of that episode I must watch it
Before you get excited, his job was only possible as it was in the 80's and systems to prevent this weren't invented yet. Probably the breaking of this story back then forced the government to take action.
I tried to find the original story, but have so far been unsuccessful.
As someone that works with government workers it’s exactly the same still
My last job was taking CAD data already taken by a guy on-site, and turning into something that was usable by CNC machines. The kicker is that half my job was fixing his work, because when he first started 15 years ago, he was doing everything the most basic way possible. He never learned to do anything differently in that 15 years. So I was doing half his job, when a skilled templator could actually be doing most if not all of my job and my boss wouldn’t have to have someone in my position. I was also doing big parts of other guys’ jobs in the shop because they couldn’t speak English, couldn’t read, and couldn’t use computers. If that shop was set up correctly, probably 2 guys could have ran it instead of 8.
Can confirm. Worked as a contract worker for the government the last 6 months and goddamn is there so much taxpayer money wasted in redundant roles and meaningless activities.
One guy makes the tea, the other guy makes the coffee
Yup. I’m a Government contractor and I can say I do very little work that matters and am getting paid 6 figures. Feels wrong but money is great
I had a friend who worked in government,
she did secretarial work, they just called it logistics for the navy, $60,000 a year in 2006,
she was the productive worker that got harassed the most.
government workers do not like productive people.
she described most government workers as lazy and borderline psychotic.
everyone above her made $90,000+ did absolutely nothing.
they went to 4 to 5 meetings a day and had 1.5 hour long lunches.
when she left, her job was given to 3 people 1 logistician and 2 junior engineers.
@@brusso456 I don’t like to cry about things being unfair but it just seems cruel that the jobs where you do the least seem to get paid the most.
@@juliantheapostate8295 gotta fill out a requisition form for steve to get the sugar we all take 2 teaspoons but are told to write 4 so we get a bigger budget next year
When you realize tons of people are working from home, sitting there answering a few phone calls and filling out a few forms you realize it's fake. Funny part is they get paid decent money for that.
They get paid just enough money to give it all back to the government. Modern salaries are closer to loans.
@@halowaffles I work in the trades i bust my asd and make less then these people(which are mostly women).
@@HisExcellencyx I hear you brother. What I'm saying is that stifling the worker has always been part of the plan. It's why it feels like we can't get ahead no matter how hard we grind.
@@HisExcellencyxYeah those HR ladies organizing diversity meetings 😅
@@HisExcellencyx
Yass queen, girl boss power!
They don't want you to think.
They want to keep you busy.
(((They)))
Finally, first comment that understands the bigger picture. You getting peanuts is a side factor for them, the main goal is to keep you busy. I laugh when large earners work 50+hr weeks.. still a fail.
This. If you're working for them then you can't work for yourself.
@@carsonhunt4642 You're right, bigger picture thinking is hard to come by. Every single decision they make is rooted in their desire to maintain control, anyone who doesn't see that can't see the bigger picture.
@@BigLu4right nothing to do with money everything to do with control and increased powers. Cults use overwork as a way to control the members and get them to do horrible things.
The economy is a system of slavery, mental and physical. Any way you try to get away from it, there's something that pulls you back.
For pointless tasks in jobs , time is money, you waste time ,you waste money,paperwork is necessary for the person who's job is to do something with those papers, wether it's statisticians, auditors, lawyers, accountants etc.
Most jobs don't contribute, but it's all needed to hold the system up.
There are many jobs that are needed to uphold society from the ground up, technological, agricultural and security wise, the question is, really, has any of this made our lives better, or worse?
How can we evolve as a species, if we are forced to be constantly trying to survive in a world where we HAVE all the resources for survival but not the access?
The flip side is, those with everything need for nothing and have the time and energy to evolve in every way, they don't use their energy and time, they use YOUR,OUR energy and time, the gap ,naturally ,can only get bigger.
Whatever the answer is, helping eachother for the sake of helping eachother and nothing more is a basis for our own evolution and liberation.
I work as an Electrical Engineer. 20% of my day is spent on power point, talking about what I did the previous day. 20% of my day is actual work. 10% is driving to the site and from the site. 10% is chit chat. 30% is youtube videos. 5% is responding to random calls/problems and lastly 5% is actual engineering.
What pisses me off is that I didn't become an engineer so that I'd be in a separate class to the techs. I wanted to design airplanes and satellites and work with the techs to build better lives for them. Instead what I found was a group of people who thought that they were better than techs, paid them minimum wage and then sat at their computer playing candy crush.
I was recently able to be promoted from a tech to an engineer and I honestly am considering going back. I've never felt so useless and am considering taking a pay cut and going back to doing real work.
Hey man, I m a 3rd year in electrical engineering. Any core courses I should know besides electrical machines?
This "real work" you speak of is a pipedream, as is this idea that you're going to be designing airplanes. There's only a very small subset of the population doing those types of things, and they're already employed. Maybe find a different hobby and stop bitching
@@aithjawcraig9876 Nah I'ma keep bitching.
If I understand correctly, 0% of your day is spent on sex/mast?
You should really dedicate at least 1% or 2% (15-30 minutes) or you'll end up with a prostate cancer...
As someone who has now worked 15 years in IT for various companies I can say that the whole 'work to earn a living' idea has degenerated to the point that not even children can believe in it. I have wasted so many years and damaged my back from sitting while scrolling shopping websites and listening to music during work hours. So many IT projects are just work for the sake of making managers happy, and big organizational projects have such a high failure rate that it is not even funny. If someone would to offer me a livable compensation to sit and not do anything but hobbies and learning interesting things I would happily take it.
It's because you are on the wrong end of the pareto principle. Also, you think you want to sit and do nothing, but you really don't.
@@metagen77 I do want to sit and do nothing; in fact, I've been sitting and doing nothing for years and I'd indefinitely remain as such were it not for the fact that, financially, it's unfeasible.
@@alternateperson6600 Granted there are some few who can but if you are anything like a normal human you will suffer. The most likely thing is that you did not do it long enough to become depressed by a lack of meaning.
If you are not some intellectual or artistic outlier this will not be true for you.
@@metagen77 I guarantee you that even if I were to get a job, I'd not too long after be fired for insolence. Maybe normies indeed have such drab minds that, if not for porn, vidya or cuckflix, they need to perform menial tasks for many hours to feel invigorated and ward off boredom and intricate thoughts. I just find no excitement in routinely executing inane work for extensive periods, and I'd likely fail to concentrate on them or I'd shirk from them; all the more reason to deem the prospect of having a job loomy.
@@alternateperson6600 Having a menial task is not much different from having no task at all. You can only get a sense of meaning if your self determination needs (agency competency relatedness) is not being violated out of proportion. What people need is a meaningful way to pass their time and most peoples personality profile drive them to feel useful.
Not everyone is like this, if you get fired for insolence your agreeableness may just be not suited for this. Open creative intelligent people need to persue their art or whatever captures their obsession.
But realize that likely makes you a statistical exception.
I'd say you need to spend twice the effort finding a job (or making it yourself) that fits you
Born to build mechanical contraptions, forced to sit at an office
Either one is terrible💀
@@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie As a mech. eng. building mechanic stuff is waay more fun and fulfilling
@@mikanuutinen2264 Oh I thought you meant like slaving a way in a factory, yeah I agree with you
@@mikanuutinen2264yeah i agree, im learning autocad and stuff right now i like to build
@@YourLifeWillForeverBeALienah building things is fun and satisfying.
took a college sociology class 20 yrs ago that was based on the theory that "government does not exist without business and vice versa"
Really can’t buy the vice versa. There’s many businesses running outside the clutch of the Gov here in the 3021. The council and police station is long gone and the crime rate has dropped.
Population and property prices have peaked.
I was a security guard who study economics in my free time and my bosses made it a point to never let me use the computers on the job. It's really is just as bunch of miserable people trying to make just as miserable if not more so
No. Security guards can't mess around on the web. Put in a single earbud and listen to podcasts. Don't be stupid.....you aren't working if you're on a computer.
Did they give gun with job?
@@victorochoa3662 brother i wish
Oh it's everywhere like that. They have that notion that if they keep people miserable, then anything positive they do, will be praised immensely, which is exactly the opposite.
Bro. "trying to make just a miserable" what?
The best recent example we can point to was when Twitter cut 80% of staff. Everyone was like "how will they function". And there was no difference in service. That exact same cut can probably happen across most companies.
I'm sure that's what they have planned.
@@sitdowndogbreathWho is ‘they’?
Spotify still has a terrible folder management system, the same one it's had for a decade. I signed up in 2011 or 2012 and it's functionally identical. Spotify has 9,473 employees. Wtf are they doing on a day to day basis?
I work as a software engineer and I can assure you, at least half those people are completely useless, the other half were likely working on side projects of the company, meaning not the core product the company sells. Tech companies tend to overhire A LOT.
There is a rule of thumb. The square root of the number of employees does 50% of the work in a company. 100 employees and only 10 do 50% of the work.
I was a production planner. Goals to ship out millions a month. The erp was severely inaccurate, I couldn’t actually build anything because the inventory was soooo off. It was so stressful I’d throw up blood daily. A coworker created a system and it was near flawless. Would’ve saved us like, 20 hours in ot every week. They wouldn’t let us use his system. It was sick. I realized the system was to keep us sick and in the building on a hamster wheel. Eventually I stopped trying so hard but just said I was. And I kept being rewarded and promoted and even tho I never hit my goal, the numbers kept being met. Nothing added up. Nothing was real. So many roles, so much overlap, so many meetings, so many emails. Just a huge waste of time. I never looked back. I want those years back.
Someone died on the clock. I’m front of us. He was replaced. A year later we scheduled a moment of silence and they had us skip it because that moment of our time to remember our colleague was too valuable.
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Ive been working in multi-family housing maintenance for about 8 years now. I was one of the "essential workers" that kept working throughout the entirety of the pandemic. Never got hazard pay(which i believe im entitled to because of literally going in peoples sick homes), actually contracted covid and got very ill off it, and the entire corporate level got to work from home, didnt answer calls or emails, and when we did see them on zoom calls it was in theyre pajamas with a half-gone wine glass. Even with all of that, the necessary functions of the company still operated. Virtually nothing changed.
Now, ive been working in Hotel Maintenance for the past 2 years and i do NOTHING. 70% of my day is spent scrolling on my phone. I have never clocked out with tasks still on my list. I dont think i have a "BS" job, but damn is it easy.
I think one of the easiest concepts I noticed at a pretty young age was rent or cost of owning a home. Those costs are completely artificial. The only thing that is real is the land that the house sits on. That's the finite resource. The money we pay for taxes on the house is fake. Doesn't it seem a bit convenient that most jobs give us just enough money to make these payments and have a little left over for food and clothes? Seems like someone is using our labor to their advantage. Who came up with this pricing scheme? What if taxes and rent were lowered? Production would halt because people wouldn't have to work as much. So in other words, everything is created to keep us working just enough to drive the economy, so we can make enough money to "pay our bills".
They'll tell you the free market decides pricing based on supply and demand.... But guess what. It's bullshit. Every market is owned, manipulated and carefully managed to always have a shortage even during abundance. Perfect example is the diamond industry. That's how it is for everything. The riches 10 percent own 85 percent of ALL assets, but a smaller percent of that 10 owns a majority. It's also designed that over time, the future generations pay the bills for today's generation. If all bills came due today, the system would fail. Part of why inequity is getting worse every year, is that the rich simply push the bills onto the poorest and the working class, who continue getting deeper in debt. The rich never pay the bill. Best scheme ever invented.
You don't even own the land because property taxes are a thing...
What?
@@larry_the yea, and if you don't pay enough in time, the government takes your house away.
This dude found out what the economy is LOL.
Its not some random dude behind the scenes manipulating all the prices.
Its litterally basic supply and demand.
If taxes and rent were lowered, people would just use that money to purchase even more goods, making them work harder in return, and keep the cycle going.
This is why I absolutely loathe hearing politicians talk about how they’re “creating jobs”. A politician’s idea of creating jobs is like this: “We could create 10 jobs by buying heavy machinery or we could create 100 jobs by buying shovels OR we could create 1000 jobs by buying garden trowels. Vote for me! I created 1000 jobs!”
well, if we have no way to distribute the distribute the income of the 10 heavy machinery jobs to the other 990 in the garden trowel timeline, then that is kind of a problem. We are going to get a lot more efficient very soon, so maybe we need to think about this. Idk if Andrew Yang had the right idea but he's at least addressing the issue
@@audreymcknight No Yang's idea is
@@tann_man Why do you assume it'd be taking from the poor, instead of simultaneously implementing taxes on the rich?
@@LordVader1094 I never said poor.
Besides, why would you want to disincentivize becoming rich in the US? Higher taxes on the wealthy means they will simply take their business and their residence to another country where they are treated better and we miss out. This is already happening to an immense degree. Wanna talk about the hollowing out of American Industry? Higher corporate and individual tax is a big part of it. It also discourages people from becoming welathy. Why innovate or provide a good or service when half of the value of that labor will get forcibly taken?
Not only would this idea not work. High taxes causes capital flight and punishes those who strive to provide the most value to society. But its also evil. It involves the violent confiscation of property against people's will. If we lived under a less oppressive regime taxation would be voluntary. People will gladly pay for a service they believe is important to them and for their neighbors. Under a voluntary system people would quickly discover how much of the state is utterly unwanted.
All higher taxes do is pass on higher costs to consumers. We should just pay for the welfare programs by printing money, and do away with the inefficiency of taxes.
We all get taxed through inflation anyway.
i've gone from programmer to IT guy to cyber security and i've never felt essential.
i have far more respect for construction workers than IT people, at least they build homes.
Is it hard to get an IT job?
At least now you have skills to exploit the system if u are willing to take the risk
I was a PM for an IT team for 5 months. I do not think we made any progress on the 4 projects I was assigned. In retrospect, it seems like it was by design and I just didn't get that my job was to give the illusion of momentum. I don't know. I couldn't stand it.
Cheers Bro. Since the internet, we also get to study through podcasts all day- every day. That’s why I chose it. I have full control of my mind most days. A lot of tradespeople are better and much more broadly educated than university graduates these days.
That doesn’t make the work easy though lol
@@Anomalyy666 You need either a bachelor's degree OR PROVEN EXPERIENCE w/ relevant skills (i.e. "learn to code"). Before you laugh, I actually did a coding bootcamp a couple years ago, and back in February I landed a job at a Fortune 500 company that pays $75K a year. Mind you, I ONLY have a high school diploma, no college at all.
1) Gather Resources
2) Make Stuff from Resources Gathered
3) Sell the Stuff you Made from Resources
4) Keep track of stuff you made/sold
The only 4 jobs that count
I constantly hear this idea that people just sit around and do barely at work at the office, but every office job I've ever had has been about 10 hours of work being crammed into an 8 hour day. Teach me how to find these easy jobs.
Same....
What do you do? (If youre allowed to say)
@@SharockoRAZR He probably has a "B's job" but proved himself at work, so what they do when you're finished with work and actively pursue the higher ups to tell them; they just end up giving you more work to do.
Your just the dummy that does the work, other people in your office do the bare minimum, knowing that you are picking up their slack. I don't mean to insult you or assume you lack intelligence, but you believe that you need to be working that hard to be paid. The problem is once you show them that you can do more they will keep expecting you to do more and if you start to do less they will get rid of you and keep the nonproductive people who haven't had a "dip in productivity". So you'll keep working harder and they will give you the extra work that other people aren't doing. Basically you are a good employee and generally it pays less to be a good employee, unless you can collect overtime, that is when good employees actually earn what they are worth.
Get hired at any city, state, or federal agency doing ANY administrative position and you will be amazed at how little you will be required to do.
Warning: If you have any sort of ambition, curiosity, or intelligence you will quickly grow frustrated and leave.
Makes me proud to be an electrician and actually doing something useful for people 😃
Yes. Blue collar people keeps the world spinning. Be proud and know that electricity is the bloodflow of our industrial society.
It’s funny I’m pretty sure that the 30% of useful jobs are mostly filled with right leaning people. It’s hilarious how people take advantage of others and than act better than you because they work a more “prestigious” job.
Yep! I am training as a counsellor, NOT a psychologist, a counsellor, that helps lost people put one foot in front of the other when they’re not feeling well and/or just don’t have the skills in knowing what to do next. Combination of shit schools and shit parents have created a huge market for this. A lot of psychologists are just self aggrandising grifters. Psychiatrists are even worse.
I used to work in marketing but became aware of how useless I was to society
@@VladaldTrumptin how are you now? as a counsellor? are you a general counsellor or a school counsellor or?
We're the chosen people, Max
Apart from shop owners, emergency services, hospital, tradesmen, logistics, farmers, all these finance and consultant jobs are bs
Mate I work for the emergency services! 80% of what we do is pointless bullshit as well as
Basically the original jobs are the most real. Beyond that everything else is just increasing fake until you end up at an office to do logistics as a sub contractor for the shippers who move the farmers food.
Then you get told your feeding America 🇺🇸 🙄
Engineer? Automotive? Energy?
R&D?
Yeh yeh a lot of research is trash and some development teams either have no idea what they are doing or are paid to pretend their making the impossible, but technology, from plows to servers, is what makes our prosperity possible.
What about civil engies
I work as a freight broker
My job is not essentially useless but it does not make a world a better place to live by any means
The sole purpose of my job is to earn profit on reselling logistics services of other agents
The amount of companies like mine is so high that literally nothing in the industry will change by any means if my company and other 100 alike companies will stop operations
Do you hate your job or are you contempt?
The dumbest thing is that bullshit jobs pay waaaaaay better and are chill while real jobs sucks and are severely underpaid.
yeah, this is the main takeaway for me too. It's odd to think why but it truly is just capitalism/feudalism, maintaining a regal class
@@profquad Doesn't really make sense to blame "capitalism" when we've seen the same thing even worse in every big time socialist country.
It seems to just be a ubiquitous fact of our human condition.
@@55Andy555you actually see the opposite in socialism. Miners paid more than pencil pushers. Not many fluff jobs. Capitalism is the only thing to blame in fact, because it is the profit motive itself which pushes these types of jobs into existence.
@@profquad No, it's the same. All the fake jobs just move to the Government.
@@profquadthat is absolutely untrue, and communist countries were notoriously bureaucratic and governmental administrative jobs were exactly what people were competing for. The reason it might feel this way is because none of them were ever rich or prosperous enough to develop the managerial class we see in the west, but that doesn’t mean that the difference between blue collar and administrator wasn’t large.
This is what I observed for a long time now. The modern economic model worked like a pyramid scheme. The bottom layers are farmers, builders, workers, 3rd world country slaves who provided most of the resources needed to sustain the system. While the upper levels provide less and less and basically piggyback on the lower levels.
The question is why there are so many layers of the pyramid providing nothing. Well, they are there to either keep the system running (record keepers, etc) or to do the job to advance the system toward an agenda (researchers, etc). Only the top 1% of the pyramid know and control the whole system, the rest is pretty much ignorant of its agenda.
I might sound like a conspiracy theorist but the system has a mind of its own who decided what would be the next milestone for "humanity", then hype up the population through media and the job market. The young population was manipulated into thinking this job was cool and well-respected in society. Then, they would fill in the demand of the system within decades to do its bidding. One might need to look at the whole internet bubble of the 90s and the ongoing AI trending to see how it works.
I was once oblivious to this reality, as a matter of fact, I thought my job was a high-value asset of the society. Until the day I watched farmers work their asses off to provide food for hundreds of people. While as the same day, watching the politicians sitting on their asses doing nothing but to find a way to tax these farm owners more and more. I was sickened to my stomach and woke up to the reality from thence on.
The family that gets a million an hour do your own research probably low men on the totem pole.
What do you do now?
@@lukaradojevic7195 go full anprim
The people at top are not even human. And I am talking about them being this humanoid animal that's believed to be extinct.
See,
what i don't get is why if you say something like this to a western conservative and liberal respectively, BOTH of them will become agitated and sometimes even offended????
like...
with conservatives it's like your insulting "work ethic" and the importance of "entrepreneurship" (funny, because holy books actually stress a suspicion towards uber- business and wealth infatuation)
somehow bringing down their identity as "self reliant" (my ass 😂) macho men who don't need no hand outs.
and with liberals...
it's always like they agree when you start talking,
but then when you reach the point where their apathy towards the fact that their bullcrap lifestyles are running off the fumes of slavery and suffering starts being brought up,
it cuts into their delusional western centric view of "victimhood" and "equity & equality"
and they just start tuning you out to save face like cowardice children. 😂
and these are the same people who will go up and down about "DID YOU KNOW NAZI DID THIS, AND DID YOU KNOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID THAT!"
while saying that abortion is killing "real human lives", and claiming that if you don't say someone's pronouns that's akin to murdering them in cold blood.
all sponsored by *nike*
what a joke.
I started working as a tech back in the early 1980s. There were 4 of us in the tech dept. At one point management brought in a quota system. Our department was given a quota to meet every business quarter. If we made quota, the quota was increased by 25% and another tech was hired on. If we failed to make the new quota, the least productive tech was fired and the quota reduced by 25%. After a couple years of hiring and firing technicians the management finally accepted the Pareto Distribution/Inverse Square Law was true, they had the proof. Namely, 50% of all work is done by an inverse square number of people employed to do it. So if a company employs 100 people, 10 of them do half the real work. Employ 1600 people in a company, 40 do half the work, and so on.
Wow
Wow, that’s a rather low number 😬
@@No._1_Karen It's been observed in every field of endeavor. Look at any hockey team, half the goals are scored by 4 or 5 guys on a 20 man team.
@@chrishoff402 Analogy doesn't work.
Wouldn't that be because half the team is designated to be on the defence? Without a defence, you losing the puck/ball would be an immediate goal for the opposition, so unless the puck/ball is guaranteed to be in your possession more (good luck rofl) you need someone to be there when the opponent goes for goal.
@@to101md I haven't followed hockey for a while but usually 6 defensemen, 12 forwards and 2 goalies. You will get the odd Bobby Orr or Paul Coffey racking up big numbers, every team will want a sniper on the back end for the faceoffs. Usually it will be 4 forwards getting half the goals with the rest spread out around the rest of the team. The less skilled forwards succeed by denying the opposition any chances and potting the occasional one themselves.
You know the magazines at grocery checkouts...? I'm a merchandiser for a print media distribution company. Every week, I service 20-30 stores- I open up a few boxes of magazines at each location and throw last week's magazines back in the box and then in a compactor / dumpster. If 5% of the magazines sell every week I'd be amazed- no one buys them, they sit on shelf for a week waiting to be thrown away. And I get paid reasonably well to do this...
What turmoils did you have to overcome to qualify for that job? Im trying to get my first one
Once i read that medieval peasants, the most maligned position in history outside of slavery, worked less hours than we do and had far more time out of the job than we do, i became disillusioned with work. Ofc someone will retort with “they had more stuff to do at home” but thats not work. Work is your job. Its what you do for your employer, master, lord, liege, etc etc. Making your dinner, taking care of your stuff or family is not work. It’s basic subsistence and is infinitely preferable to work.
Capitalism and marxism are two j*wish products, like Sombart explain.
@@tairo1092i agree that they are two ideas born from the same evil, an evil that has developed in a complex and progressive manner over the centuries, but id not ascribe blame to the shtetlbillies. Their subversion and control could have only ever been exerted if our inner defense mechanism against it were prior stripped away by the subversion and outright destruction of them from our own kind.
I read that 4chan post too
Their commutes were likely better, too 😅
In harvest time they are tired. But they got a real winter rest. Yes, you do chores daily in winter, but only a bit. You sleep and heal your body.
I work in a convenience store with vegetables. Before this, I worked in a factory and the amount of satisfaction I get from what im doing now is actually so much higher. For the past 2 years I ve made sure people always like the section of the store i work in and I made many customer friends. Its sweet seeing people smile when u show them around. Having a job where u actually can see the impact is great.
The disconnect between doing work and earning money is palpable. Its a bell curve. Beyond a certain point, i'd say about 80k a year, people invariably do less work for more money. There are basically zero people who make 150k+ and come home covered in dirt, very rare exceptions like underwater welders and niche mechanics, etc. The best indicator for your future income is not how hard you work, it is your social standing and likability to your bosses. They value reliability, predictability, and compliance, not hard work. Meritocracy was always a joke.
Literally, my job is what you say “zero people” have. Don’t you realize that life is sooo much more complex than you realize? Don’t pretend you know things that you really don’t, it will stunt you.
Yea I make at least 10k every month and I take cash only baby! So do the math on that. I’m 40 been runnin and gunnin for 24 years. I have done all the blue collar stuff but right now I’m crushing with carpentry. I have found a niche installing feature walls (a geometric trim like design shot and glued onto their wall)
Working for nice people, getting paid well, coming home covered in sawdust and paint lol. But this guy commenting must not be southern tho boy. Down here there’s lots of us making six figures in work boots. Shiiiiittttttt I’ve ran with Mexicans and El Salvadoran guys that make 20k a month doing stucco. None of us are no employee tho lol
@@matthewsmith2362 You are profiting off of the housing bubble. Wait until it pops and suddenly nobody needs new homes. Ask an old oilman how much he made during oil glut times. It wasn't unusual for them to work second jobs. Again, niche scenario, we cannot make the entire male population of America carpenters, if we did you would make far less money. Supply and demand, you are just in demand. By bad people, by the way, you are building assets, not homes. They exist to hold the value of money for somebody who probably already owns several homes. America actually has far more homes than it needs, its just that they are all new suburban shitholes for upper middle class parasites and as portfolio assets for the ultra rich, meanwhile low income housing is filled with illegal immigrants and working class people struggle to find affordable housing. I live in Richmond, VA, by the way, and rent anywhere in the city starts at $1200/mo not including utilities. I see new houses all the time and they are rarely inhabited, if they are the people living there will probably die before the mortgage is paid off.
@polska8765 Engineers are nowhere close to the highest paid workers, thats my point. All of the highest skill jobs are actually middle income. Most of the highest income jobs are bankers, stock brokers, hedge fund managers, CEOs, jobs that consist of arbitrary corporate appointees and money managers or people who quite literally kick their feet up and watch the money go brrrr, living life on easy mode, never actually doing any real work besides a handful of quick decisions like investments or managing staff that any reasonable person with the same info and education could make. The difference is that they are part of an obvious clique, a class even. The number of people who, in one lifetime, have worked service worker positions and ran a fortune 500 company are very few. Most poor people are born and die poor, most rich people are born and die rich. Social mobility is largely a myth, with certain exceptions.
@@sethpolley7999😂Amazing you cant even be bothered to mention it in your 1st reply because youre afraid of being called out on your BS
honestly the largest problem is just the HR departments becoming the largest departments in nearly every company. why does some random lady who has never done the job, has 0 skills related to the job, receive 75k+? this is also a self-perpetuating problem, because HR needs to be useful, they find things to complain about. this leads to more HR people, now with specialties like sexual harassment trainers when HR shouldn't exist. you know who should review time off? the person deciding the schedule. you know who decides the schedule? the managers. why have a person manage people, just so someone else can also manage people.
that’s specific problem is the government’s fault
Years ago I was almost written up for completing a task a full shift ahead of schedule.
Reason given: it made the supervisors time management skills appear poor.
I wish I was kidding.
That's called "retaliation", and you could have sued the company.
My gf got written up because the job they had her on was supposed to produce 1,200 parts per shift, with an expected waste of 300 parts, because the machine would get out of adjustment every so often, and the operator would have to go get someone to fix it, then go back to work. She saw what the guy did to fix the machine, and so she would stop the machine now and then and check the adjustment, didn't go back to work. At the end of her shift, her supervisor came around with a clipboard to check off the number of good parts and bad parts, and the supervisor noticed that the waste bin was mostly empty. She asked my girlfriend why there weren't more bad parts, and when my girlfriend told her what she had been doing to keep the machine running right, the supervisor took her to the office for a lecture and a write-up. They literally didn't care about the fact that she had almost completely eliminated waste from that machine, it was just about meeting the expected numbers.
@@mountainmanxyz cant sue for "almost" getting written up.
@@slappy8941 that's absolutely insane, i'm more convinced by the day, that to be any kind of manager, you first have to pass an IQ test, and it has to come back lower than 70
I got a job in IT two years ago. It was pure administrative BS, I automated everything. Literally, I haven't read or seen a single e-mail in over a year and a half (Is a remote job). I've already moved to another country, have a new job, and yet I'm still getting paid for my old IT job. Don't ask me how. I can't believe there's human beings going every day to the office doing something like this.
I think that’s bullshit
@@wildowarkson8774nah I’m in IT too it’s definitely plausible
Did you go to college to get an it job?
@@coolturtleneck3119 Don't do that.
People like you are why this video makes sense. You're a part of the joke, bud.
I’m a high school economics teacher at an international school in China. My job isn’t exactly pointless, but I feel 60%+ of it is essentially child care that is only needed because parents need to be at work for their pointless job, which renders that part of my job pointless by proxy. There is some “surrogate parenting” and contributing directly and indirectly to kids socialization and this part actually does feel rewarding and meaningful, but in practice it’s mostly just visibly exhibiting high future time orientation behaviors and self discipline hoping it will rub off. I felt so bad for the empty art room guard.
You sound too intelligent to be a teacher/child care worker.
And just as school is daycare for them, teaching is daycare for you. Humanity is in a holding pattern now where the plates are being kept spinning while the powers the be figure out how to end it all in an organized fashion.
If you want to contribute in a meaningful way, you have a bored classroom full of kids who could be taught to undermine and defect from the CCP.
Education no longer educates people, it forms workers, that's why not just the art room is empty, but also humanities in universities are being relegated to the side, when not entirely dismantled.
How the hell did you even get a visa
I’m a 4th year hydrographic survey technician conducting bathymetric and geophysical surveys where I’m either collecting the data in the field, processing the data in the office, creating client deliverables, or writing reports while simultaneously managing a sector of our equipment and make $23 an hour…..let that sink in for all of you going into debt for a college degree….and I even have a legitimate degree that helped me get the job I currently have…..but I get paid peanuts for my time and effort….im slowly learning that overachieving gets me absolutely no where….its just makes the people above me look better.
The first 10 minutes makes me appreciate my self employed lifestyle a lot. I don't have enough work to fill 40 hours a week but everything I do is necessary and I agree that in previous office jobs a lot of the work was bullshit. I would do all my work in about 2 hours and then had to fill the next 6 hours and look busy.
that's true, most hours we're just bullshitting that we're working lol
what do you do?
@@processorbot8761 I automated a lot of my old departments work in a web app and my old employer is my sole customer using this web app. My work consists of gathering requests from the people working in the app and outsourcing the coding to programmers, I do have experience as a sys admin so I do take the sole responsibility to keep the application running and secured, no down time so far in about 3 years. Sometimes I will go a little crazy and have things added I personally think are good idea's. Tools I use are Git and Vim.
@@otten5666 Do you plan to expand to other companies or is it too much of a hassle?
@@bioemiliano It is an option, however most of the work added is quite specific to my costomer's demands so it might not be straight forward to deploy the application to other companies. Currently my customer only uses my tool in 2 departments in only my geographical area but the company operates all over the world with many more types of departments so the true masterplan has always been to spread to their other geographical locations and departments. It might turn out to be naive if my customer stops using my product but I enjoy adding features more than spending time on marketing and trying to make the product more generic.
They've got you running in circles, nine to five, and five to nine you watch news & media that tell you what to think
Eric O'Lost
Exactly
And are you happy? Come on! I WORK FOR THE SYSTEM!
This is also telling you what to think, it's just a jaded 40 year old instead of a news company with a profit to turn. There's not as much difference between the two as I would wager you think
@@Natoursofcourse Always be wary of other people telling you how you should feel about your life, whether optimistic or pessimistic.
The problem is that people that work all their lives have no time to learn why they must work all their lives, from school days they are programmed to do things as everyone does, go to school, then get high degree and get a job, people must start question their own lives and why they are living like they live.
The trucking company I work for has a safety department that does completely nothing.
My fleet manager does completely nothing but approve layover or detention.
I am the one doing the job, they sit on their asses doing nothing but want to tell me how to do my job even though they have never driven a truck before.
I realized this 1 week into my first "Big Boy Job" in Corporate America. I probably actually work 1 hour out of the 8, and play video games for the rest of the day. Thank god that the work from home culture is starting to become a thing, otherwise I would probably go insane. I get paid pretty well for an entry level position which only requires very basic knowledge in my field. My realization is reinforced when my supervisor says that I regularly exceed expectations, during my review process.
What's your job man?
@@___-ni8vt I'm an I.T
@@THEMilkSHAIKH Backend ? Cyb Sec ? Code?
My first time at the biggest company in its field involved my immediate colleague telling me his job wouldn't exist if others did their job right. Insane.
7 hours+ gaming, per day... That is very unfortunate, my brother. You are working a self admitted entry-level position with a basic knowledge requirement. You might get away with messing around now, but you wont stand long with those habits. You should be spending that 7 hours working on an above entry-level position, with a higher than basic knowledge requirement. In order to do that, you need to apply yourself. I hope you find something else soon to do with that time other than play video games.
Not to mention I'm sure your first "Big Boy" job in "Corporate America" wouldn't be too stoked to hear that you're pissing away their resources working from home, playing video games, and doing the bare minimum for their company. Quit kidding yourself and straighten out your act, brother. Please.
It's true. Most of us don't do anything important. We're just moving around and finding things to distract and convince ourselves that what we do matters. Even the people with "important" jobs are so specialized and compartmentalized that they are tired of the monotony and routine.
One way to improve reliability is to drown everything in bureaucracy to the point that getting the work done is an afterthought.
There's such thing as moderation. Some bureaucracy to make sure everything's recorded.
I'm so glad I never went to college. Never once questioned if my job actually needs doing. The answer has always been "if we dont do this the world kinda stops turning"
If you never had a life goal before college, you weren't prepared for it anyway. Not going was a good decision (this is not a jab, too many students go to college and get a diploma they never use).
@@scrittle No I understand, I never had life goals not career related ones anyway, most of the people I know who did have them never realized them anyway because they're just not smart or dedicated enough. Every girl in class saying she wanted to become a marine biologist ended up pregnant or in rehab by the time they were 23, so it could have been worse for me lol