MK Party’s Bombshell: Exposing Truths Behind the Rise and Fall of Jacob Zuma
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- MK Party’s Bombshell: Exposing Truths Behind the Rise and Fall of Jacob Zuma, from ‘Ramaphoria’ to ‘Ramageddon Prof. Sipho Seepe Political analyst weighs in.
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Professor you are the
With the truth we need Academically people like you may the lord bless you and your family 🙏🙏
Professor ntante Seepe has hit it right on the spot as always, hate him or like him but the truth will set you free
I don't want to lie Cyril pulled the wool over my eyes he gave us false hope 😢
A very meaningful discussion thank you guys
I was ask8ng myself yesterday why is no one talking to prof seepe about president Jz. Today i saw this podcast. Thanx.
Only a fool will skip this clip...naked truth Professor🙏
Prof you couldn't have put it more clearer
Clear analyst
Prof is clear
Why's does he not talk about the role of tribalism; MK does only well in Zulu strongholds.
@@charlietheunissen5982based on my personal capacity I don't see anything wrong with tribalism in any sort of politics because if you are Xhosa you know your struggle and other person will never understand your struggle as a Xhosa person so it's so easy to be tribal in that sense. and they know their struggle in KZN that is why they supported Jacob Zuma because their demands are equal and same, so they understand each other better than any other tribe. that is why KZN went out and support Jacob Zuma
instead of supporting IFP. If it was the more case of tribalism I think KZN would support IFP, but the narrative of IFP does not aligned with the demands and needs of KZN people so that is why they took a chance and support the newly formed uMkhonto wesizwe.
@@worldofsportshd1904 well articulated...people envy the people of kzn. they just not honest with themselves...that unity is priceless.
Definitely you are precisely on Point my Chief, and since I've ever been involved with South African Politics, I've never heard or seen anything coming from KZN given any good Commentary or Applause, accept Tribalistic Criticism and lack of Modernity, in whatsoever they do for their Identity and Culture, and that narrative has been used to destroy Former President Zuma's Political Career, which happened to nullify every effort that good Fellow Citizen had for this Country.
Oh; help us God.
First time I hear someone speaking 100% truth in this democracy of ours
I like this guy he's spot on ANC let them collide with the DA and that is gonna be their downfall in the next election there won't be any ANC in this country and if the Country is gonna be Governed by ANC and DA that Manipulated the elections it's okay Chief Justice Zondo come the next elections in SA nobody is gonna register to vote vote for what in a country where democracy doesn't exist if Constitional Court doesn't allow Former President Jacob Zuma to lead the MK party in Parliament what about the majority who believe in Him, they have denied the Democratical Right to elect a leader that they trust IEC comeon who is going to vote in SA in the next election nobody
Always admired the Prof Sipho Seepe.
Me too, don't have words to praise him, very informative. Big up to Bra City Seepe❤❤
Thank you Prof for educating us.
I love the way the proff is articulating this political issues. AMANDLA
Please let Prof. Analyze most of your political topics in future. He nailed it so good.
I always loved Prof. Seepe's analytic reports. He is not captured by the Rupert media.
Prof Sipho Seepe was first to note and refer to Zuma as a Master Politician, and for that SABC tv in particular made sure his analysis services were not utilised by the braodcaster.
Very true i remember him before July anrest he warned them. 😮
I hate this ANC thing yer nx
This is making so much sense
Guptas were on scene long time ago , Mandela amd Mbeki's era. Mbeki even acknowledged the presence of their mother in some event
Powerful ❤
Thank u prof
Oh; Professionally, Truthfully and unmistrued fact.
Salute: Professor Seepe.
Marikama and Phalaphal still hanging
Jacob zumas years were never nine waisted years 😢
Tell them lie make it Big ,Tell them daily Until their sub conscious Mind believe it that is what's happening in South Africa..
And that's done by mainstream media
This will never get published into mainstream media.
We should ask.why were terms of reference on state capture only covering Zuma period only?ask .who had captured the state during Thabo Mbeki
Yes,you cant talk about state capture and leave out the white monopoly capital because they have their hands everywhere.
South Africa is a crime scene
I didn't know such people still exist. We been listening to political analysts who are bias and leaning towards wmc, this a pure political analysis at it best
Naked truth
Well said Professor
Plain truth Prof.
Thanks nate seeped by reviling the truth
About Jacob zuma
This is brilliant analysis 👏
Neoliberalism which is the equivalent to the argument about the Markets is the very thing which must be junked. Excellent analysis Prof. Time to grab the bull by the horns and bring the BLACK PEOPLE to the TABLE. 🎉. The truth will serve and save us all the way.
The markets actualy put food on our tables and generates taxes for the government..
Think of the labour markets.
MKP will plunge KZN into poverty
Where have you been professor?. It is my first time to hear the truth from the media. ❤❤❤
Let's also acknowledge the Zuma mitigating effect during 2019 elections because he actively campaigned for the ANC. The thing that no other president has done after their terms. He was the highest ranking member of the ANC who really went out there and campaigned. It can be argued that if he had behaved like Mbeki (after his term) the ANC would have dipped more in 2019. The fact that we saw these elite ANC so-called "heavy weights" coming out to campaign is testament to Zuma's absence and they collectively failed. Zuma kicked their asses even without the backing of the SABC which midway decided not to show Zuma on the field. Thanks you for very valid points Prof.
Thanks Professor. That's a mouthful. We were aware of some but no one was brave enough to articulate it all.
Honest prof of our time ❤❤❤❤❤
Bravo my brother
Well said Proff .
This is powerful
Perfect analysis, thank you so much for the eye opener
My favorite analyst Pro Sika bopha
Thank you Prof ❤
You-----Constructive Commentary is meant for learned people, that is why while people will be busy discussing the hot Political topics at hand, will be saying Hheyi, Hheyi, Guptas hheee, Zuma, to show that you are without a Content and Agenda, Fundani, Fundani, and stop believing propagandas.
Salute
You hear and read comments of people writing negative things, they don't think, they are fed with all the lies
Yoo u are so right this is the naked truth amen❤
Always about race. Wake up. . . . Greed is colorless and in all races of society. So sick of the race card.
Powerful analysis
Thank you so much my beloved brother hats off to Ntate Seepe fair and honest analysis love you prof.❤❤❤❤
Thank you Professor for educating us 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Long live prof Seepe
This man is a real professor. Not all those fake commentators
Guptas have been there since Mandela
Arms deal time Zuma was MEC in KZN
An absolute truth Prof. salute
You are spot on Prof
This professor must tell the nation who destroyed SARS,Eskom,PRASA,SAA,and the state which was captured by the Guptas and under which President. This professor was also part of government.
He is not denying the allegations but instead excusing the by highlighting other issues that he is blaming Ramaphosa for. Nonsense. Zuma is corrupt, that is why the ANC is where it is today
Who told you that Zuma is Corrupt, and if he is Currupt why haven't you arrested him for that so much, since you have speculated about it from year 2007, you haven't achieved what you envied to be fallen him, because it is false unsubstantive theory.
And the more you are busy spreading lies about Jacob Zuma, the more the favor of God falls on him, because the true favor of goes with the favor of people, now his Organization, has won, the Province of KZN, and Second position Party in Mpumalanga, and third Opposition in the Country, and that high volume of Significance, still ring Sounds Corruption to you, and that has been achieved in a period of five months.
Come-on, and Wake up, from false narratives.
This prof is mad
😂😂😂 seepe uthethalento Abantu abangafunukuyiva kaziwena uselekanjani kwamanye ama anylyst uselewedwa ngenyaniso ebuhlungu kwabanye
The ANC is doomed like the NP became NNP and eventually nothing.
Beautiful
Honest analysis Prof
I wish Prof Habib, former Wits head can listen to an African proff speak.
Spot on Prof
It appears people choose to forget the disasters thst befallen the country during ramaphosa era
There are people who benefited multimillions from the arms deal.
People like the late minister of defense Joe Modise and many others.
Zuma was an MEC in KwaZulu.
He didn't have the power at the time to heavily influence the arms deal.
Proff, don't underestimate the international influence.
Prof is dillusional
No government can formed with flip floper as Julius and confused,angry old man as Zuma
If you think you can ignore the influence of Capitalism then you are doomed
The following poem was inspired by Prof Sipho Seepe’s discussion with Lindiwe Sisulu on his TH-cam channel back in 2022 just before the ANC’s National Conference where Ramaphosa emerged as President of the ANC for the second time. I wrote this poem as I was watching the interview…One Love to you Prof ❤:
Mama I have watched you get raped by Invasions, Slavery and Colonialism
Today I am watching you get raped by Neocolonialism
Baba I have seen you fight to protect Mama from Invasions, Slavery and Colonialism
Today I am trying to fight Mama’s rapists and you Baba are fighting me to protect the Crime committed on Mama by Neocolonialism
Baba please pay attention to the Universe as the blood of our Ancestors that was spilled on it is trying to talk to us
Mama your own seed that you gave birth to is trying to destroy your essence while Baba is defending this cruel act
Baba if you continue to ignore that inner voice from your Ancestors then you are leaving me as your Child no choice but to kick you aside so that I can directly confront the rapist myself
Mama Kemet Kush Punt Lesotho KwaZulu or Simply put Mama land of black heavenly beings
Baba Kemet Kush Punt Lesotho KwaZulu or Simply put Baba land of black heavenly beings
Child Kemet Kush Punt Lesotho KwaZulu or Simply put Child land of black heavenly beings
Mama Afrika, Baba Afrika and Child Afrika you are the original trinity that is indestructible
Rise above all your challenges tripartite universal entity that gave birth to itself in all the diversified forms of life in the Cosmos
Zuma is not a Saint as you're presenting but he did well breaking the back and monopoly of the ANC. For that, thank you president Zuma.
This man is true analyst, you speak the truth.
Thank you, sir, for soeaking truth. What gets done about it. Nothing, while those mk eff anc da still are left to fight positions. Do something about it.
The People Shall Govern! Not The Makerts.
Did Sipho talk about the debt GDP ratio when Zuma took over from Mbeki and how much was it when Zuma was fired and secondly did he also talk about COVID19, iTS IMPACT ON THE WORLD ECONOMY?
Pls ask the questions again! Gupta is propaganda and WMC falsewood!
Wow! How do I share this on twitter or any other platforms?please!
Truth is told 🎉
Professor Sipho Seepe, always Spot with analysis, unbiased, Prudent and informative.
Salute you Sir.
His son held a senior position in the Gupta organisations. The DA must get the Justice portfolio and the police ministry. This way everybody can be held acountable for their actions. JPSmith and Glynnis Reytenbach should play a role in the ministries. Sars seems to be doing well after Tom Montane has been kicked out.
Parliament only becomes a Parliament at the sittting of the National Assembly. That is, after the elected members have taken the oath of office as MPs.
For National Assembly to sit, it needs at least 350 members to take their seats (i.e. be sworn-in to become members). There is a total of 400 seats. The MK party has 58 elected members.
If the 58 elected members of MK are not sworn-in, thus do not take their parliamentary seats, there is no National Assembly. It cannot sit in terms of section 46(1).
The election of the State President and Parliament Speaker in terms of section 53 requiring 1/3 of Parliamentary members to be present to form a quorum APPLIES ONLY on a constituted Parliament. So far, there is no constituted parliament until the National Assembly sits in terms of section 46(1).
The IEC declaration of election result is not an act of creating Parliament. The IEC is not empowered to constitute Parliament. It is not a player, judge, jury and law-giver.
Please be informed before you spew the untruth. The sitting of Parliament to elect the Speaker, Deputy Speaker and the President does not need 350 Members perform their function. These functions will happen whether the 58 MKP members attend the swearing in or not. Please read the documents articulating this before making uninformed commentary. As for Sipho Seepe's views the least said about him the better. What a waste of time by the so-called "Professor". Pathetic!
@@morutiledwaba3471 Rubbish. Section 46(1) is clear. The National Assembly consists of at least 350 members. There is no National Assembly where the members are below 350. The National Assembly is the lower house of Parliament.
You are referring to section 53 of the Constitution that says that 1/3 third of members can elect the President and Speaker. One Third of Parliament is 133 members. That section sets out the quorum once the parliament is constituted. In other words, persons on the IEC party-list must be sworn-in as MPs. Once the number of persons who have taken the oath of office reach 350 then the National Assembly is constituted. Then, and only then shall the issue of the quorum (section 53) arise.
Without the MK's 58 members, there is no 350 (the total number is 400). Hence, no parliament, thus s53 does not kick-in.
We can easily see how the responses are more personal than the academic material some of us anticipate when one is a titled to this degree
True
Why should Africans suffer at the expense of international markets, to hell with that, from Madela, Mbeki and Ramaphosa always want to please the West and tell us about markets, to hell
Sabc picks analysts who might be liniment against Ramaphosa. There was a use dr Mbele and useless Thuli Madonsela
The Prof’s analysis fails in toto at explaining the complexities in SA body politic.
1. Zuma is a populist politician, a demagogue so to speak. He’s even more charismatic than Mandela. As a politician, he’s even more skillful than Mandela, Mbeki, and Ramaphosa summed up together. These are characteristics that have served him and his MK party well. But, we have seen him in power in the context of a booming economy post-Mbeki and what he did with it.
2. Most leading ANC, MK, EFF, etc are kleptocrats. The steal from the people. The election results manifest that the masses vote corrupt leaders. How can these leaders change the status quo? I doubt they can.
3. Black majority government smacks of reverse apartheid. The decision of the people must be respected. A GNU may be the best solution. National problems are managed by all parties in the government. Each party checks the other party in government.
4. If the ANC can challenge the MK in future, it should vote a politician who understands the political trenches of South African politics, a charismatic leader so to speak. Technocrats like Mbeki and Ramaphosa are needed in governance, not leadership. A large segment of the people may never understand the technicalities of governance. They are more interested in what is offered them by the government.
5. I agree with the prof’s analysis of market influence in SA politics. The market is and will always be there. It is more interested in the economy and politics for its own interests. It can be tamed. It is happy when the economy is booming. Politicos influence markets as markets influence politics.
6. The major problem is meeting the needs of the people. The how question has been more or less illusive.
7. The SA judiciary must play its role in stamping out corruption and stealing by politicians from the public purse. It must clean the SA politics of these ills.
Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I hear what the prof is saying that our people are hypocrites and just believe what they want to believe, however I would like to remind prof that for the most part societal perception is formed by the media which is controlled by the same people who he says are also looting. So, if what black people consume is what leads them to believe what they believe, you cannot really entirely blame their perception on hypocrisy.
Prof may be knowledgeable but so biaised towards Zuma league
Here we go again, Prof Marete
I have been following him a lot on DStv 405 channel during the ousting of Zuma and he made it clear that he is Zuma's loyalist and he will ðefend him at all costs costs costs costs costs.
#ProfSiphoSeepe Yoh what an accurate assessment of the hole situation I will leave my learned presenter there since bringing up this negaitives that are put before #Zuma cast as a dark cloud... JacobZuma Must come back and only he will teach us... How to run our own country...
"Market can be controlled" like Zimbabwe is currently doing ...ha ha ha
I think you should have said the rise and fall and rise 😊
Ramaphosa never goes to court for anything that he is accused off
Ask yourself why he was not accountable for money laundering, keeping huge amount of money in his house was not a crime for him., but not for ppl like you and me
And the CR17 bank statements are still classified.
I'm Saluting the Content of the discussion and Professor Seepe for insightful Analysis, but not Guptas Futile Commentary which is not the discussion by now.
Salute.
I really observe the nationality devide in comments by readers
Majority Commentators, analysts and Media info was in favor of ANC. Why are you shocked with the outcome? Planned ss such.😂😂😂
Guys i hate ANC and everybody in it with all my heart....
It's not worth it. Life goes on Please save your ❤️ 💙 💜
ANC+AD=FINISHED OF UCONGOLOSE🤣😅😆 ABENZE THINA SIYOHLEKA BECAUSE ANC IS SOO ARROGANT & IGNORANT. AMEHLO ENGQONDO YABO IVALWE YI *GREED*
ABANANDABA NABANTU BENKOSI🤷♀️
Lots of black people are voting Da prof ..why ?
Although Zuma had more good deeds we cannot forget how he disbanded Scorpion. The Gupta family taking over and offering people ministerial positions.
Ramaphosa has failed indeed but Zuma cannot be presented as a saint. Prof Seepe was also a bandwagon for Ramaphoria. He only changed a tune when Rama started falling
Zuma is so not perfect but u Ramaphosa ukhipha unyawo shem , a business man who is a president is not helping our country 🙏
@@faithngema6785 Ramaphosa too ain't a good leader however the narrative of Zuma as Messiah is very far fetched
ANC should stop only focusing on KZN South Africa is bigger than KZN. Stop crying over splited milk perform on Provences thy won to show the rest of us thy have changed
Weeeee
I'm not liking this guy rushing into the weaknesses of the Zuma era thus blanket ing all the good Zumas achievements. Most of these guys quickly rush into The Gupta narrative .
Name the white media please
Professot has not stopped to dream in his comments by supporting Zuma.
What was ramaphosa supposed to do amist covid 19 vs government plans for the new dawn. What do u expect him and cabinet to as against people dying of pandemic
Is this a prof ?😢..must be Mk spokesman
I don't agree with the Prof's view. I say if you are in leadership and are implicated of coz it will be big news versus the other private businesses. So we should be okay with the Guptas currupt relation s just because they were minimum no. I like Ramaphosa but I do feel he broke the law and should have been fined for monies lying around in his house and its worse coz he is a states man.
May we please have leaders who are not dented in any form.
People who support JZ and who voted for MK are not the majority in the country.
Go out and recount votes to satisfy yourself
Money laundering and R500 Billions that was eaten like nothing we have big project in rural areas that was built during Zuma administration provinces who used to have no universities now they have High court in Limpopo province Medupi and Kusile power stations electricity within a year after 3 administration without electricity in most KZN and think we will buy the hear said go and fool others you won't fool all of us because we are not suffering from chronic hatred MK has caused people to all drinking pain medication 😂😂
@@Ntombelar4sure-db2yl So let me understand Ramaphosa us behind the laundering? I struggled a bit when I read your message in order to grasp your point.
@@botlhalenxumalo280 you have been brain washed by media propaganda to love Ramaphosa and demonize Jacob Zuma shame on you.
Don't understand? Where is the R500 billion from covid?
Izimpimpi abathakathi abadayisi of black massive and witches must go to esihhogweni to hell..MKP will rise come 2026
This one hates Ramaphosa to the core
They all are guilty. Check it for yourself. Hope and pray for honest ones that will take our country to investments nothing can happen without it. All people must invest their help and time to secure the jobs and food for millions of people the change exetera must happen fast. Lets pray for people and their pesonal vievs and stories do not make it evan more difficult for what is busy happening😢
what did he say about Guptas and the state capture, 179 charges including rape, the junk status we experienced in this country.
The way unenzondo ngakhona keep forcing dirty issues about ubabu Zuma... Awukaboni kodwa namanje ukuthi kwenzakalani or awufuni ukubona