Hey everyone! It has come to my attention that I am running some length of exposed 14-2 wire under the cabinet in this video! In such situations, the wire is able to be physically damaged and presents a dangerous situation. Please use the appropriate conduit for routing this wire to the intended location! I apologize for omitting a very important step from the video!
Another code violation and definite safety issue is that you need a protective box connector (non-metallic cable clamp) where the Romex 14/2 wire enters the fixture. This is due to the sharp metal edge the plastic wire goes through. On smaller fixtures, this can be a 1/4 inch size which is hard to find, most stores only have 3/8 which fits a 1/2 inch hole. www.amazon.com/dp/B00VST2LLS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_8FBXEbF6WPHGE
This is exactly what I was thinking while watching. And if you use the proper "outside of wall" conduit, this makes it horrible looking. It would not be hidden at all as the conduit pipe are big.
You could easily run a 1/2” conduit from the fixture and into the drywall without it looking ugly. Paint it whatever color the surface it’s mounted to is.
I wouldn't never use 1/2" EMT (thinwall conduit) to connect lighting under cabinets. I'm fairly skilled at bending pipe and I doubt that I could make it look nice. I've always considered using 3/8" flexible metal conduit under the cabinets. I have wired under cabinet lights with Romex but I've always known that Romex shouldn't be exposed like that. Because Romex can be bent and secured so easily it can really hide under there good.
I get paid to do this job all the time and after watching your video I think you did an excellent installation. From beginning to end every step was done correctly.
@1:34: If you pry with the tip of the screwdriver going into the stud and the shaft against the box, you won't damage the drywall. If you lever it back the other way (tip into the box, shaft against the drywall), you'll damage the drywall.
WOW!!! This is just the video I needed. I already had one light under my cabinet, which is not working now. I am going to change it out and use the jumper wires to connect others. So I will only need to start at 6:00 in this video. GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!
One more thing, to all complaining about the music...my computer has a volume control, sorry yours doesn't., cry babies. Nice video and music was fine. Keep up the good work.
This was the exact same light that I had purchased from our local Lowes and this was the perfect setup. I didn't have more than the single LED light above our new coffee bar in the Kitchen. Thanks for the hints and help.
I must say your video is the best video straight forward no nonsense BS talk Straight to the point I learned a lot in the shortest time ever !!! Keep up the gr8 wrk
Nice job. I have a similar situation to address in my kitchen. Your project reinforced what I must do to install 'wired' LED undercounter lighting. Appreciate your update to remind us to use conduit to address exposed wiring.
One issue, for most newer homes the kitchen plugs can't be used to steal power from. From what i understand if the outlet has a green ground wire you can split power off. If its the standard black, white and copper ground you cannot. You cannot use any dedicated circuits either ie microwave.
Except it doesn't appear to be a dedicated circuit as it doesn't have anything plugged into it. It's not even 20A. Nothing in the NEC prevents this. And what are you going on about green ground wire and copper ground? They're the same thing. The biggest concern out of anything here is the lack of conduit to protect the exposed romex.
I bought the same lights, at Lowes. I will have to jump further to the second light position then the enclose wire can reach. I think I can use a length of 14-2 wire to do that.
Great job! I have five light locations to be installed in my kitchen and controlled by one-rheostat. So nice to hear the reverent "my wife" instead of the temporary "shack-up", "girl friend" or "gal-pal".
all that lousy music is distracting from the more important work he is doing. if he heard the music that is why he forgot to run conduit to prevent damage to his wiring
@@jameslindberg1273 He asked for feedback. He can't improve without knowing what needs improvement. People have enough annoyances so they're not likely to benefit from his help if they fail to watch because they don't want additional annoyance.
The dimmer switch I bought comes with a green “ground” wire and two black “neutrals”. Can I remove this ground wire if I use your method of grounding through the outlet?
Hi! I would take advantage of the ground post on the switch and join it via pigtail to the other ground wires. If a ground fault happens in the switch as opposed to the receptacle, however unlikely, you’ll be glad you put in the small extra effort!
I’m about ready to do this although I need shorter lights, already have a switch for an over the sink light so I can just tie into that, great video and helpful for me!
This was pretty helpful if you only want one switch with one light or more on one run of cabinets. But if you have a run of cabinets on a wall with a sink that splits up the cabinets, say with a kitchen window between them, then what?
A small detail that makes it look better is to add some small washers behind the outlet before screwing it in place to bring it out past the trim a little like the light switch. It looked sunk in and almost behind the trim
OK so one tip for next time: instead of the plastic box, you used… Use a plastic “old work“ box. Much easier. They also make them adjustable so you can adjust the depth flush with the sheet rock. Makes for a fantastic finished device installation.
but...can we have lights on plug outlet ? I want to do something similar but all I read is it is NOT compliant in a kitchen ( or possibly anywhere) to have lights and plugs on the same circuit ... please enlighten me
Agree with a lot of the comments below concerning the level of detail needed that was missing but the part that made me just stop watching was the music! Either less volume or loose it entirely if your open to suggestions.
Good video. unfortunately I was thinking you are going to install LED strips and I was interested in knowing how the hardwired should go in this case (trx, extension cords, etc.)
Hi! Sorry I didn't go that route, but in your case, the LED strip lights would likely need somewhere between 5-12V DC, in which case you would want to install a rectifier of some sort. It will look something like this: amzn.to/3hJvp7B . Of course, you'd search for one that matches the voltage you need. You would mount that box in a safe, inaccessible location, such as above the cabinetry, and run your low voltage wire down to the beginning segment of your LED strips. Your strips would probably come with a jumper cable to join multiple strips together.
To shut off the right breaker with only one person, plug in a radio and turn it up loud. When the sound stops, you've found the right breaker. Or, run a shop light to the panel if you don't have a radio & watch when the light goes off.
Concerned about romex passing through the sharp metal edges of the light knockout. I would have used a romex to knockout fitting. Or put in a conduit to knockout adapter and ran coax to the hole in the wall.
Hey Rich, the light assemblies came with their own knockout fittings to protect the cable from the rough metal edge. Sorry, I didn't give it much time in the video but you can see me installing it at about the 5:55 mark.
Yeah I don’t see the appeal in the setups that include a remote with a vast array of color options either. 🤷🏽♂️Chances are, if I need the light, I’ll be right there in the kitchen to use the switch on the wall and white or soft white light is perfectly good for illuminating my countertop.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm sorry that didn't get covered adequately in the video. I'll try to provide that information here. The Good Earth LED lights we chose were designed to be hardwired and so they have a knockout on the chassis that you feed your source romex cable through. I had to open the chassis to see what I was doing. On the inside, the three wires corresponding to hot (black), neutral (white) and ground (green) coming from the lamp itself were already fixed with red push-in quick connect wire connectors on the ends and so they expect you to simply strip the end of your source cabling and push your black, white and ground wires into their respective connectors. It takes a little force but once they're in, they're pretty much locked in there. Then I just had to squeeze everything into a small enough space that I could close the chassis back up. Hope this will suffice, and we'll be sure to be more thorough in the future!
I’m surprised by how many people hate the music. It’s pretty ridiculous. Didn’t bother me, but I suppose you should find some better stock audio track for your future videos. And balance the levels. But thank you for the video!! I’ve been wanting to do this for a long time to my cabinets and the way you fished wire down is so obvious, now that I see it done. Smack my forehead. Thanks again!
I’m pretty sure I saw a stud in the way when you removed the drywall. You should have mentioned to check where that stud is before drawing the cutout. If I’m right, and there was a stud there, you would have used a multi-tool to cut away that stud. Best to use a stud finder if you can’t see the stud on either side of the box from the mounting screws/nails. Also, it looks like you have a Dacor-style switch. It would be better to change out the receptacle to a dacor-style one too, so the face plate will be ‘standard’. Overall, good job though. :-)
Hi! The only stud that was in the vicinity was the one that the 1-gang box was attached to. I see that there was a hanging piece of drywall tape that might have looked like another stud in the middle of my cutout. Sorry if that was what you were seeing and it was distracting! And I agree with you that the other style receptacle does indeed match better. Thanks for the recommendation!
yall are haters the music was only loud when he wasnt speaking when he spoke the musiced dimmed down. Music was fine dude some poeple are just sensative
You might find you have metal or plastic box secured to stud with nails that you can't remove.you can buy single gfi with seperated switch and not change outlet box
Thanks for watching! I recorded this with the help of my lovely wife. As we continue doing this sort of thing, I hope that the quality of these videos continue to improve as well. For the first time, we've included some free-to-use music as sound background noise. Hope it keeps you entertained! Your support helps a lot so please like, comment, subscribe to this channel for more content in the future! th-cam.com/channels/y3dXSfrcc4Pv8uXlGrctog.html
Hey everyone! It has come to my attention that I am running some length of exposed 14-2 wire under the cabinet in this video! In such situations, the wire is able to be physically damaged and presents a dangerous situation. Please use the appropriate conduit for routing this wire to the intended location! I apologize for omitting a very important step from the video!
Another code violation and definite safety issue is that you need a protective box connector (non-metallic cable clamp) where the Romex 14/2 wire enters the fixture. This is due to the sharp metal edge the plastic wire goes through. On smaller fixtures, this can be a 1/4 inch size which is hard to find, most stores only have 3/8 which fits a 1/2 inch hole. www.amazon.com/dp/B00VST2LLS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_8FBXEbF6WPHGE
This is exactly what I was thinking while watching. And if you use the proper "outside of wall" conduit, this makes it horrible looking. It would not be hidden at all as the conduit pipe are big.
You could easily run a 1/2” conduit from the fixture and into the drywall without it looking ugly. Paint it whatever color the surface it’s mounted to is.
Zach Smith no, that would look like shit
I wouldn't never use 1/2" EMT (thinwall conduit) to connect lighting under cabinets. I'm fairly skilled at bending pipe and I doubt that I could make it look nice. I've always considered using 3/8" flexible metal conduit under the cabinets. I have wired under cabinet lights with Romex but I've always known that Romex shouldn't be exposed like that. Because Romex can be bent and secured so easily it can really hide under there good.
I get paid to do this job all the time and after watching your video I think you did an excellent installation. From beginning to end every step was done correctly.
Hey thanks a lot for the positive feedback!
Just out of curiosity, what do you charge for this kind of service?
I would also like to know how much you charge for this service
@O ab Thanks for the feedback! This light kit came with a tough rubber or plastic connector. You can catch a glimpse of it at 5:55
I am a licensed electrician and I enjoyed your video. Quality work
Thanks and glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. Short and to the point. Showed all the steps without rambling on about stuff that has nothing to do with the video. 👍
One of the best ones I've seen! The diagram was perfect!
For a no electrician, you did a very good job. From a Licensed EC
Thanks, much appreciated!
@1:34: If you pry with the tip of the screwdriver going into the stud and the shaft against the box, you won't damage the drywall. If you lever it back the other way (tip into the box, shaft against the drywall), you'll damage the drywall.
Someone getting some tonight, great job, electrically wise you did evuthing correctly.
This is a game changer!!! So smart. Thank you for this awesome knowledge. I can now ask my electrician to do this. I need task lighting asap!!
WOW!!! This is just the video I needed. I already had one light under my cabinet, which is not working now. I am going to change it out and use the jumper wires to connect others. So I will only need to start at 6:00 in this video. GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!
Glad you found it useful! Thanks!
Great, might try this method with my contractor to save money. Thank you.
I like building off an existing outlet. Great idea / solution
Amazing job man! I have found the music a bit stressful and difficult to hear what you say but I got the message!
Thank you! Sorry about the music, in future videos I'll keep it a little more tame :p
In the end, the lights look so gooood !
Nice job, better than most "pros".
One more thing, to all complaining about the music...my computer has a volume control, sorry yours doesn't., cry babies. Nice video and music was fine. Keep up the good work.
This was the exact same light that I had purchased from our local Lowes and this was the perfect setup. I didn't have more than the single LED light above our new coffee bar in the Kitchen. Thanks for the hints and help.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
I must say your video is the best video straight forward no nonsense BS talk Straight to the point I learned a lot in the shortest time ever !!! Keep up the gr8 wrk
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Nice job. I have a similar situation to address in my kitchen. Your project reinforced what I must do to install 'wired' LED undercounter lighting. Appreciate your update to remind us to use conduit to address exposed wiring.
Nice video, ran across it by chance. Have to agree the music is overbearing. But thanks for posting the video
Nice musical score. Thanks for your time. Very helpful.
One issue, for most newer homes the kitchen plugs can't be used to steal power from. From what i understand if the outlet has a green ground wire you can split power off. If its the standard black, white and copper ground you cannot. You cannot use any dedicated circuits either ie microwave.
Except it doesn't appear to be a dedicated circuit as it doesn't have anything plugged into it. It's not even 20A. Nothing in the NEC prevents this. And what are you going on about green ground wire and copper ground? They're the same thing.
The biggest concern out of anything here is the lack of conduit to protect the exposed romex.
@@TsikuraThank you I was wondering about the exposed romex too. What would you use to protect it in this kind of installation?
Thanks for the video brother. Just what I was looking for.
Glad you found it useful!
I like the love note on the right side. ❤
You really did a great job installing the light though you are not a electrician.😊😊👍👍👍
Enjoyed the video but the background music was too loud.
Hey, hi there! Thank you for posting this video. It was very helpful & thoughtful of you!😊
Awesome! Thanks for this as I have been thinking about doing this in our kitchen.
Great job! Exactly what I was looking for!
Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the video. I was able to do a similar project at home.
Awesome! Glad to hear it!
I’m enjoying this break from the normal boring background music on TH-cam. Be you.
Haha appreciate it. I really fudged on the levels. But certainly not much I can do about it now. 😋
Love the subject and information. Don't care for the extra noise that some may call music. Thanks
Excellent. One thing I would suggest is check codes for exposed wire and/or use wire molding.
Thanks! Yeah I actually went back and ran the exposed part through conduit but that failed to make it into this video!
@@thequalityhomeWhat type of conduit did you use? And how did you secure it to the light fixture and the hole in the wall?
Great video!
Yeah I dig it man, just wrapped up my own reno pot lite sitcheeation it’s the only way to go. Plug in to a receptacle would look lame.
nice... I wish I knew someone like you who can do that to our kitchen..
Awesome video thanks. Chill on music next time overbearing.
I enjoyed the music lmao
Nah I disagree, the music was a vibe
Everyone watching should have a volume control on their TH-cam screen and computer. I'm sure of it.
I bought the same lights, at Lowes.
I will have to jump further to the second light position then the enclose wire can reach.
I think I can use a length of 14-2 wire to do that.
Great job! I have five light locations to be installed in my kitchen and controlled by one-rheostat. So nice to hear the reverent "my wife" instead of the temporary "shack-up", "girl friend" or "gal-pal".
Geez go easy on the music man... lol
I thought it was nice 🤷🏼♂️
Had to quit watching bc of the annoying music.
Louder actually
WHAT???
What music
Great video. Love the music!
Great video, thanks, u really did a great job, probably I would use the circle light under the cabinets
Sorry, the music is so distractingly loud.
my ears are bleeding
If you must have music use soft relaxing music at low volume but in reality music is NOT needed. Save it for bedtime.
Great video thanks for posting. You made it easy to understand and you went step by step
Where do you put the power pack/dimmer? In attic?
Thx
Excellent DIY video.
Great video. 1 suggestion, buy higher quality brands that have pre set cabinet depth screws in the fixture ready for installation.
Nice straight forward video thank you!
Glad I'm not the only one annoyed by the loud awful music.
all that lousy music is distracting from the more important work he is doing. if he heard the music that is why he forgot to run conduit to prevent damage to his wiring
You guy’s need to get a life. He’s trying to help others understand this and you criticize him. Where’s your videos? Thought so.
@@jameslindberg1273 He asked for feedback. He can't improve without knowing what needs improvement. People have enough annoyances so they're not likely to benefit from his help if they fail to watch because they don't want additional annoyance.
I cant stop shaking my head and body!! Lol
The dimmer switch I bought comes with a green “ground” wire and two black “neutrals”. Can I remove this ground wire if I use your method of grounding through the outlet?
Hi! I would take advantage of the ground post on the switch and join it via pigtail to the other ground wires. If a ground fault happens in the switch as opposed to the receptacle, however unlikely, you’ll be glad you put in the small extra effort!
I’m about ready to do this although I need shorter lights, already have a switch for an over the sink light so I can just tie into that, great video and helpful for me!
You did an awesome job!! Thanks for the tips.
This was pretty helpful if you only want one switch with one light or more on one run of cabinets. But if you have a run of cabinets on a wall with a sink that splits up the cabinets, say with a kitchen window between them, then what?
A small detail that makes it look better is to add some small washers behind the outlet before screwing it in place to bring it out past the trim a little like the light switch. It looked sunk in and almost behind the trim
OK so one tip for next time: instead of the plastic box, you used… Use a plastic “old work“ box. Much easier. They also make them adjustable so you can adjust the depth flush with the sheet rock. Makes for a fantastic finished device installation.
I love that you needed the drill light to see so you could install lights… to sss
This area was certainly lacking in light! Even with the kitchen lights on 😅
Great job looks like a pro
Good explanation! Thanks.
Great job bro. I liked the video.
but...can we have lights on plug outlet ? I want to do something similar but all I read is it is NOT compliant in a kitchen ( or possibly anywhere) to have lights and plugs on the same circuit ... please enlighten me
Your video was awesome, regardless of the music.
Installing lighting on a small appliance circuit, a county inspector would love that.
I appreciate your video but tone down music will be nice.
Where do you find/purchase the wire to connect(daisy chain) the lights together? Thanks
These LED products came with the daisy chain in case you were purchasing more than one
I'm going to install some light. Y'all ready to ROOOOCCK!!!!!!!!!
how does the light stay on, on your drill?
Iam debating between buying the RGBW strip or just the black and decker lights to install under kitchen cabinets?
Well done! Thanks for sharing.
Great video!!! Exactly what I wanted.
Agree with a lot of the comments below concerning the level of detail needed that was missing but the part that made me just stop watching was the music! Either less volume or loose it entirely if your open to suggestions.
awesome video. lovely couple! thanks for the tutorial!
Good video. unfortunately I was thinking you are going to install LED strips and I was interested in knowing how the hardwired should go in this case (trx, extension cords, etc.)
Hi! Sorry I didn't go that route, but in your case, the LED strip lights would likely need somewhere between 5-12V DC, in which case you would want to install a rectifier of some sort. It will look something like this: amzn.to/3hJvp7B . Of course, you'd search for one that matches the voltage you need. You would mount that box in a safe, inaccessible location, such as above the cabinetry, and run your low voltage wire down to the beginning segment of your LED strips. Your strips would probably come with a jumper cable to join multiple strips together.
This was extremely helpful. Thanks!
Simple and intelligent install. Kudos!
Thank you very much!
"Make sure your sheathing comes into the box a quarter inch."???? What the heck does that mean?
To shut off the right breaker with only one person, plug in a radio and turn it up loud. When the sound stops, you've found the right breaker. Or, run a shop light to the panel if you don't have a radio & watch when the light goes off.
Concerned about romex passing through the sharp metal edges of the light knockout. I would have used a romex to knockout fitting. Or put in a conduit to knockout adapter and ran coax to the hole in the wall.
Hey Rich, the light assemblies came with their own knockout fittings to protect the cable from the rough metal edge. Sorry, I didn't give it much time in the video but you can see me installing it at about the 5:55 mark.
I like this set up. The other video's using the multiple colors and a remote is not for me. Another good thing is the wife is happy
Yeah I don’t see the appeal in the setups that include a remote with a vast array of color options either. 🤷🏽♂️Chances are, if I need the light, I’ll be right there in the kitchen to use the switch on the wall and white or soft white light is perfectly good for illuminating my countertop.
Bro new to your channel… great video
Thanks!
I believe the code is written to keep lighting circuits separate from the counter top outlet circuits, as well.
Great tutorial, Thx!
Nice job just what I needed to see
Great job! Thanks!
Thank you too!
Nice job. But would have liked to know how exactly wires connected inside the light. Thanks
Thanks for the feedback! I'm sorry that didn't get covered adequately in the video. I'll try to provide that information here. The Good Earth LED lights we chose were designed to be hardwired and so they have a knockout on the chassis that you feed your source romex cable through. I had to open the chassis to see what I was doing. On the inside, the three wires corresponding to hot (black), neutral (white) and ground (green) coming from the lamp itself were already fixed with red push-in quick connect wire connectors on the ends and so they expect you to simply strip the end of your source cabling and push your black, white and ground wires into their respective connectors. It takes a little force but once they're in, they're pretty much locked in there. Then I just had to squeeze everything into a small enough space that I could close the chassis back up. Hope this will suffice, and we'll be sure to be more thorough in the future!
I’m surprised by how many people hate the music. It’s pretty ridiculous.
Didn’t bother me, but I suppose you should find some better stock audio track for your future videos. And balance the levels.
But thank you for the video!! I’ve been wanting to do this for a long time to my cabinets and the way you fished wire down is so obvious, now that I see it done. Smack my forehead.
Thanks again!
You did a great job! Curious after 3 years, did any of them burn out yet?.. How much usage? Thanks.
Where did you get those device boxes, I can’t find them anywhere.
I’m pretty sure I saw a stud in the way when you removed the drywall. You should have mentioned to check where that stud is before drawing the cutout. If I’m right, and there was a stud there, you would have used a multi-tool to cut away that stud. Best to use a stud finder if you can’t see the stud on either side of the box from the mounting screws/nails.
Also, it looks like you have a Dacor-style switch. It would be better to change out the receptacle to a dacor-style one too, so the face plate will be ‘standard’.
Overall, good job though. :-)
Hi! The only stud that was in the vicinity was the one that the 1-gang box was attached to. I see that there was a hanging piece of drywall tape that might have looked like another stud in the middle of my cutout. Sorry if that was what you were seeing and it was distracting! And I agree with you that the other style receptacle does indeed match better. Thanks for the recommendation!
@@thequalityhome : Thanks guy. I always appreciate your coaching. I couldn’t see clearly with it sped up... plus my eyes.. :-) Cheers.
But what if the back wall is tiled ? really going to cut into tiles ?
Perfect video for what I needed!
Glad it was helpful!
Loved the music, great video
Awesome video. Just installed my lights. Thank you!
Good work man!
Appreciate it!
yall are haters the music was only loud when he wasnt speaking when he spoke the musiced dimmed down. Music was fine dude some poeple are just sensative
You might find you have metal or plastic box secured to stud with nails that you can't remove.you can buy single gfi with seperated switch and not change outlet box
Good light
Great way to tap in outlet easy
Great video, thanks. Must be cold in your house, everyone is bundled up. Lol
Nice video man
Thanks for the visit
Does this hard wire into electrical socket or light socket?
Thanks for watching! I hard wired the lights to the electrical outlet receptacle.
Thanks for watching! I recorded this with the help of my lovely wife. As we continue doing this sort of thing, I hope that the quality of these videos continue to improve as well. For the first time, we've included some free-to-use music as sound background noise. Hope it keeps you entertained! Your support helps a lot so please like, comment, subscribe to this channel for more content in the future! th-cam.com/channels/y3dXSfrcc4Pv8uXlGrctog.html
Nice video except for the music. Musical taste is highly personal and limits your audience. And ability to hear you.
The music was fine. It's very popular on TH-cam right now to use it while you're working in exactly the way you did.
i found the music a little loud but great video overall