I had the old clickers when I was instructing back in the day and loved them, they had a bad rep for getting snow packed, but I literally had zero issues, ever. If you just want quick in and out, it's hard to beat. I just picked up a set of the Burtons and Photon boots, same deal.... they just work... Traditional bindings will still be the go to for hard core park junkies that want the added range of motion in the connection rather than all in the boot fit, it all just comes down to what you want out of a boot/binding and what the riders actual skill level is.
I use the clicker bindings since 20 years and still loving them! Haven‘t seen other people with clickers since years and always wonder that nobody seems to use them nowadays.
I love them when they work correctly with some adjustments. I have released while they were locked and almost lost the board after chasing 1/4 mile. Never wore a leash w straps now I do Make sure to adjust the back to allow enough room for easier entry
I am a intermediate rider and picked up burton step ons this season. I can't say how awesome they are. I definitely reccomend everyone to try them first. It is the evolution of Snowboarding. Boxes and rails.. NO problem it can do it all. I would like a pro to use them consistently and give feed back buy for everyone go buy a set up like this
Good point on the back problems. Speaking from personal experience those step-ins can be really helpful. Also, there are places in the world where the runs are super short (less than 1 minute) and you need to be in and out of your bindings all the time.
I'm a snowboard patroller and will be riding those this season after many seasons using Flow bindings. They look promising to me as I can have to take off and put my board on easily 15 to 20 times per shift. Also the quickiness to step in compared to the Flow is big a plus to me when having to rush to an emergency, or even taking out the rear foot and being able to push yourself through a flat part of the mountain and step back in
Tell us the comparison between the two. I live near the slopes and i switched to flow not for the easy entry but for performance and comfort and i have to say after having bashed them for years , i am very impressed. I've had all kind of bindings, except for their weird sizing , they are by far the best i had, even though i usually hate aluminium bases.
Don't! You'll be waisting more time digging the snow out of the rear mechanism than if you had straps. If you want a quick entry system get the Burton Step Ons. They're so much better. I've used both and will never run that k2 junk again.
@@morganverdure6116 Try the Burton Step on's. I can get in quicker than people using Flow's and they don't have 2 pieces of metal between the board and bottom of your foot like the K2's do.
I have bad hips, and am approved for hip replacement. I love my Flow hybrids. I've used them to help me bind in quick and without having to reach in a way that is painful.
I used the Clickers back when they first came out and loved them as a teen. took about 12 years off and now im back and now me and my kids use the new clickers. Also most of the time i click in as i stand up getting off the lifts and that makes so nice!
I broke my neck a few years ago and have a lot of movement deficiencies because of it. Sitting down and trying to bring my foot up far enough to get to my straps is agonizingly difficult. I think I am going to give these a shot.
The burton step on are waaaaay better in getting in, you dont have to bend down and lock anything! Imagine having to lock it with mittens and snow packed in there.
looks like the lock is pretty easy though... but I do worry about the stepping in part although tommie did have a lot of snow on his boot for that test. I guess its a tradeoff because the burton step ons have a weird spaciness to them that almost feels like slop or something. Idk all signs point to just riding normal bindings.
@@willdykema you would struggle big time in those in powder. I use the step ons and they are super easy to get into, in powder or a groomed run, no bending over (which is the whole point). Much better.
It looks like it is a bit hard to step in comparing to step on, especially if the hook is packed with snow or powder days. I personally enjoy step on very much. Would like to try this out sometime.
If it doesn’t lock in the best to start just Ollie and stomp hard on the back foot. It will step in fine. Forget locking. Only lock the front foot. If you are super worried about losing it, wear a leash on the front foot. Edit- I have about 200 days riding K2 clicker HB pros back in the day.
I've had the original clickers for 21 years now and I have never locked them, they are the best for riding with skiers, the only drawback is I can't find new boots for the original clickers and after 21 years my boots are beat.
If it works it works. Why change it. I would like to see another company make Step in boots for the K2 Clicker system like how DC makes a boot for the Burton Step ons. K2 needs a great range of boots.
The performance with the cuffs off is better than any binding I have ever used in over 30 years. Unmatched Agility with control that comes from the sole of the boot allows for high speed base grabbing carves, ripping Glades and anything steep and deep... I might be reluctant to jam massive jumps..
I love clickers, click in on the lift and say “see you later strap binding guys!” I used to ride them back in the day when they came out in the late 90’s. So glad they’re back!🤘
When I got back into winter sports in 2016 I bought a set because I loved this too. Well after 4 seasons of messing with snow pack in the bottom of the boot either on the chair or out in the woods where I had to take back foot out and ripping the soles off 2 sets of boots because the tops are just glued to the sole with 1" of material and all your turning force pulls the tops from the bottom I had had enough of that. But I was really going to miss clicking in while on the chair. I demoed and bought a set of the Burton Step Ons. 1st ride up the chair and I figured out how to "click in" while riding! They're worth 5 chairs of time vs straps. None of the k2 boot/binding issues either. The board feel is amazing in comparison and walking in them is so much easier around the lodge. Stay away from this K2 junk. The Burton's destroy them.
K2 clickers including the originals (I finally replaced mine from '04) are great for technical riders (a true hybrid of a soft boot vs alpine). Those who like precision control in both toe and heel turn, when you dial the correct tightness for you - they generally don't need to be adjusted all day - meaning your feet stay far more comfortable. Comfy feet + cardio / resistance training + altitude = all day rides. The current '22s Kinsley's I have seem to "loosen" but they don't, the outer hard shell slips past the felt when it gets sweaty and/or wet, letting it slip further past the inner liner - which requires you to tighten it up a bit.
I’m aging myself a bit here, but when I first started riding they had step in bindings that almost always came on rental gear... it was so crappy... always getting packed with snow and would fail constantly... the boots were also special for that type of bindings and were much harder than your normal strap binding boot... the burton system seems to have solved at least one of these flaws by having several clicks in which you can actually put them on with powder crammed on the boot or bringing and still go, but these seem like you had them failing not even on a pow day... I’ll prob stick to my traditional setup for now as it gives me more freedom on boots, but I do hope the continue working on the tech
Yep the K2 system will always have snow pack in the boot issues. The Burton's don't. I've never once had to brush the bottom of my boot off. If there is snow in the binding it won't affect you getting "locked in" or you can quickly brush it out to get the 2nd position of engagement. My burton photons take about 6 full days of riding to break in. The k2's clicker boots I used were similar and just as they fully broke in the sole would start to rip off from the boot.
@@GLHNSLHT2 Do you work for Burton, sell their system, or otherwise have a financial conflict of interest? How do you know K2's system will ALWAYS have snow pack issues? Can you time travel into the future? I don't have a conflict of interest here. I haven't used K2 products for over 15 years, nor do I sell them or work for them.
@@teacherguy5084 I used them for 3 seasons, was always digging snow out of the bottom of the boots in all kinds of snow conditions. My kids were in their straps and waiting on me all the time if we had to get out of our bindings for one reason or another. In 3 seasons I went through 2 pairs of boots because they're design rips the soles apart from the main boot. And 1 pair of bindings because the aluminum tab that holds the release rod to the binding broke. K2 wouldn't warranty the 400+ dollar boots. But the local ski shop did get my 200 dollar bindings swapped. K2 was going to warranty the 1st pair. I jumped through all their hoops and when I gave them my size after they asked me so they could ship me a new pair they ghosted me. But when you cut a pocket in the bottom of the boot and then stick a metal plate in it things are going to get in there. And if it's cold and freezes or compacts it's going to stay in there until you dig it out. I swapped to step ons after the 2nd pair of boots and have never looked back. They handle so much better. Offer so much better feel and are more comfortable. I've never had snow I've had to dig out. Sweep the binding out of there is snow on it and step on. I've been riding then since Jan 2020 and the boots and bindings look brand new still. I'd have gone through at least 2 more pairs of K2's by now. They're junk. K2'S customer service and warranty is garbage.
Just bought some Nidecker Supermatics. Man I hope one day Snowboarding settles on a standard for step in/on bindings. Then again it took skiing about 6000 years to eventually agree to a standard! 🤪
Totally agree! I see so many reviews that never mention this point. I’m in the Midwest and without the step ons I would be putting bindings on and off 25% of the day, minimally.
I'm interested to see what the next generation does with this. We are jaded. We have been strapping in forever. Thousands of hours working the tricks and learning how to make it work for you. I wonder what that looks like with this tech in 10 years?
I'm in the Midwest and primarily board in Michigan at places that barely have a vert of 300ft 😔. So I'm on the lift a ton so step ins have always been a priority on my list. Ive never had an issue with my OG Clicker set up. Can't go wrong with clickers, I'd do it again in a heart beat!
Hey tommie K2 issued a recall for their clicker units in Canada. But there is only a note on the product page. Most people probably don't know about it! It would be nice to warn people
I disagree with the point that these are for beginners and entry level people. At an entry price of $600 without a snowboard, beginners aren’t going to shell out that money to find out if they like the sport
you overlooked the one major issue with the bindings. the lever is very hard to reach. if you fall the lever is almost impossible to reach. i had to put a bolt on one side to make it easier to reach and its still a challenge 3 inches higher then its supposed to. if k2 fixed the lever issue these bindings would be almost perfect aside from sometimes having trouble getting them to click
January 2024 here. I’m a beginner snowboarder with traditional bindings. I’ve been looking at the Step On’s by Burton and the Nidecker Supermatics. I’ve seen the Clew ones but I don’t really like them. So, I popped over to my local ski and snowboard shop yesterday and that was the FIRST time I’ve ever heard of these bindings! 😮 (apparently Burton is going away from selling in small retailer shops and sticking only to online and flagship stores). My question is… what’s wrong with the K2 Clickers that shops and online are not talking about or showing customers these boots/bindings? ***I DID see that there was a recall of the 2021 bindings… what was that about?***
I find it hilarious that people doubt silly stuff like 'are they safe for tricks'. Step-ins are for everyone. They have BETTER toe and heel responsiveness than any strap. If you tell yourself straps are better, you're only fooling yourself. I've been riding clickers on one of my boards for over 20 years. They are simply the best. Seeing 20 boarders all strapping in at the top of the hill is so sad to me as I just step in and cruise right by.
WD-40 is the trick to keeping snow OUT!! Spray on just a little before each session and you'll NEVER have to deal with snow getting in the way. I've been riding K2 Clickers for over 30 years since they were first invented. Why the entire industry hasn't gone in that direction is a total mystery to me. Strap in's suck and are incredibly outdated. K2 did it first and they do it the best. Everyone who tries to come up with their own version (Burton) will always be second place. Never using anything but K2 Clickers until the day I die!!!
Good reason for your customers to be hesitant. They suck and here's why. 1st as you can see in the video is they still have issues with snow buildup in the back of the boot bottom. Sure you can stomp/ollie down multiple times on a nice hard packed run to get it to engage. But try doing that when you're standing in a foot of fresh. It's not happening. You'll have to sit down and dig that out. 2nd that metal plate in the bottom of the boot kills all the board feel you get. I didn't think it would until I rode something else and realised how much it helps your riding. 3rd and my biggest issue is that the boots don't last. All the force in a turn is pulling on the top of the boot. K2's design and manufacturing just glues the top of the boot to the sole with 1" of material. No screws or anything. So after a season and a half the sole rips off the bottom and you're out $400 on boots.
I rode clickers from Jan 2016 to Jan 2020. Liked the feel of them. But after ripping the soles clean off 2 pairs of boots in that time I had had enough. The boots just have the uppers glued to the sole with about an inch of material all the way around. If you remove the liner you can see this. This doesn't work as all the force you put into the bindings comes from the top of the boot. So you're constantly pulling the top of the boot off the sole. Also and you can see in this video the snow pack in the bottom of the boot. This might be ok if you're out on some groomed run. But if you're in deep powder you can't stomp down hard enough to clear it. So you're constantly digging the snow and sometimes hard ice out of the bottom of your boots to get engaged. My daughters and their straps were in faster than I was allot of the time because of it. I was able to demo a set of the Burton Step ons at my local mountain. All I can say is WOW what a difference! I didn't realize how much the metal plate in the Clicker boots was limiting board feel and how having that board feel helps your riding. There's no metal between the bottom of your foot and the board. You can feel it flex under your foot. It's so nice. Also the connection points are integrated into the tops of the boots allot better with stitching. I don't see them being able to be pulled off/out of the boot. Snow buildup is a non-issue. If there is some in the bottom of the binding you give a quick brush with the back of your glove and step in. Even if you don't brush it out the system will engage. Don't waste you're money on the K2 clicker/Clicker X HB. The burtons kill them all day long.
@@Rixter1455 nice! I got a second set of regular step ons and a set of the X's as well for my stuff. I like the photons. If I see a set of the DC's in store I might try them though I'm probably more apt to go for the ions but I don't like speed lacing.
@@GLHNSLHT2 I heard the ions aren't that great for the cost. Also not a fan of the speed lacing too, but it does come with burton's life liner. The DC boots, from what people have said, are extremely comfortable and are comparable in cost with the photons. I have had hot spot issues with the photons on my pinky toe (especially when I wear thick socks) so I am hoping the DC boots would alleviate that
@@Rixter1455 sucks about the hot spot. Would the wide version photons fix it? I'm happy with the photons as they fit my feet. I also went down a half size this year and went to Burton's performance+lightweight socks. Still dialing it in a bit with break in but last time out I found a comfy setting.
I love the idea of step in bindings, but as much of a hassle as it is, it seems like strapping in and getting up on my heel side helps the arthritis in my lower back by stretching and increasing flexibility as well as strengthening my legs. Would love to hear what @mobilityduo think about it. Putting it off for now.
But you can do those exercises at home. Stepping in/on will get you more laps. Just get the Burton Step Ons or you'll be on the ground digging snow out from the bottom of the boot all the time. Or taking them back because the top of the boot has separated from the sole and k2 won't warranty it.
Until you've ridden both you have no idea. Those toe clamps simulate a strap binding much better. You're also not fighting with snow buildup as you can see in the video. He got lucky with it. I've had to deal with way more snow stuck in the back lock. You got the better system by far. Don't downgrade.
Previous version without the highback was way better, as you could easily slam the snow out with a kick and click. I guess you might be able to kick backward and step in.
I ripped the sole off 2 pair of the non-highback system in 4 years of riding. Though I see this doing the same as the boots are very similar and it's the toe side the rips the soles off. Get the Burtons. No boot sole seperation issues and zero snow pack issues.
Other than the price, what reason is there NOT to get some step on type bindings? Reply if youre one of those who don't want them im curious about your reasoning
My reason not to get these is that I destroyed 2 sets of $400 boots using the non-highback verson in 4 seasons. Ripped the soles clean off because of toe side turning. The high back will not stop this force. K2 just glues the top of the boot to the sole with 1" of material. All your force pulls the top of the boot from the sole. Also the snow pack in the back location sucks to deal with all the time. Allot of the time you have to dig it out with a pick or knife. I'll never ride the K2 system again. Now I went to Burton's Step On system and love it! The boots are much better engineered and constructed so I don't see any issues with the soles seperating. Also there's no snow pack issues. You have board feel which helps your riding instead of a metal plate under foot. Between my family of 3 boarders we have 5 sets so far and will ride them always.
I remember rentals in the late 90s having K2 clickers. There was a major ice buildup problem and I had friends clear them out w/ ski poles. The new design looks like bigger hook/cleat pieces, so maybe that will be more self-clearing. I remember liking the Stussy's better as a beginner, but now I'd hate all the lateral play. I ended up w/ Burton's first Step-Ins. All 3 of those boots were freaking heavy.
Nope. Still have to dig that shit out all the time. Burtons new Step ons are great. Same feel as straps. Easier to get in and out of than anything else. Weight of the boot is the same as a regular boot.
@@aaalllen I have not heard anymore about what they're going to offer other than that size in a boot. I don't know if they'll have a wide version. Based on their side ranges of boots vs. bindings across their range of assume they'd have to have a larger binding especially for the 15's.
I think that they are a little bit “difficult” to get in, in order to lock and be secure. Did you tried the burton step on?? I tried the burton and with the heel lock it’s enough to be safe, and you just but the book on the binding (no effort)... but I think that other brands should dig in to the step on technology.
yea wait till he's standing in a foot of fresh with that much snow buildup on his boot. It's going to go from a "little bit difficult" to not going to happen till you sit and dig all that out. The Burton step on doesn't have that issue at all.
Wouldn't the play in the K2's be good for freestyle riding? The have a bit of side to side movement since they mount in the middle. I think that would be great for park and jumps
They are great for park and jumps, I have the clickers from 2017 without the high back and love them. I’ve hit some large jumps 20ft or so and had no issues. Also do a lot of high speed riding(+55 mph) with my clickers And never had any issues
So something in interested in, skis are said to be safer in avalanches becuase they pop off with the force, do you think those would pop off your feet during an avalanche like skis since it's not strapped to you?
They also have a flat version of the clicker which is a little bit easier to get out of (but you Gotta make sure you get there clicker boot that does not say XHB) And what you can do is get one of the Long leashes that wrap around your leg and Attach either end to the levers on the sides, so all you need to do is bend down, grab the leash strap, and pull up, and you’re out.
Clickers are wack. The boots weight almost as much as ski boots and in my option the system doesn't work well epically at the smaller sizes. If someone wants a convince binding setup its all about the burton step on. Its way lighter and the step in is much easier and more intuitive.
Do the new 20-21 K2 HB clickers work with the old school clicker bindings? I have the bindings on my board but its time for new boots. Thoughts anyone?
If it takes 3 tries to get into the bindings combined with the possibility of unlocking them with the lever accidentally while riding make this setup a hard pass for me.
I've had it take 10-15 tries before I gave up and sat down to dig the snow out of the bottom of the boot. Ditched them after destroying the 2nd pair of boots in 4 seasons and went with the Burton Step Ons . They always engage, no snow ever get's stuck to the bottom of the boot but if some is in the binding you can just brush it out real quick or step on and it'll engage.
I'm interested in the Burton Step ons and watched many review video's. Never seen a true compare video, but deducting from most of the comments the Burtons are the way to go. Might be a bit pricier but overall they seem more robust than the K2 system (shoe soles letting go after 1,5 season and apparently a terrible customer service on top of that). Also, nobody with the Burtons has a problem stepping in with snow,,and this video immediately show's he needs 3 tries to get in after wiping some snow away. So for me it's clear at least. Ow I even forgot the part that the disconnect system on Burtons seems much more simple and quicker to operate. Also, easy to switch from one side to the other, so the release handle will be in the middle instead of the outside.
I rode my K2 Clickers today! from almost 20 years ago. They were perfect then and they are perfect now. There was NOHTHING wrong with them back then. The "sitting on your ass wratcheting" burton binding industry destroyed them for no reason other than market share.
Sorry bro but not liking the idea of step ins. You still gotta bend over to close close the extra safety clip so either way you’re bending over. Just don’t see these things being a big deal in snowboard industry.
You don't "HAVE" to. I never did up my rear one. Heck most of the time I forgot to do the front one as well. Once you're in you have to rip the sole of the boot off to come out. That being said about a season and a half and that's what starts to happen and you're out $400 in boots. Now the Burton step ons eliminate all of this an offer way better board feel and control on top of it. They got it right.
Are you talking about the fix for the heel cleat? Because that was fixed after the first season ('17). I have had a set of '18 and '19s with around 40+ days each and both are in excellent shape, I only got a second set to downsize my boots. The notorious hotspot issue isn't a thing if you have narrow-normal width feet. Performance wise they aren't as stiff as I'd ride normal strap bindings but are much better toe side than any other binding I've had. Honestly unless I'm riding pipe I'm using the stepons they're just so convenient with really no downside. Your mileage may vary, these things are killer on 20+ lap days but probably aren't worth it if you're only doing half days or if you're shredding with other boarders that you have to wait on anyhow
@@th3oryO I'll stand and wait for my buddies vice sitting in the snow all day. Worth it to me to be comfortable with an outstanding and super responsive burton step on binding.
@@vincenttrzeciak878 according to K2, they didn’t leave. In my opinion, I am psyched that they’re back. I used to ride them in the late 90s, and loved them. I think They have better response then strap bindings.
@@robnestor3371 I used them from 2016 to 2020. Destroyed 2 sets of boots. Went to the Burton Step Ons and got rid of all the issues and gained far more. The K2 system is old and out-dated. The Burton system got rid of all the problems. They feel like strap bindings without needing straps for the most part but are more responsive.
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I'm a "big dude" 6'1" and 250+ and the burton step ons have been absolutely amazing. Never had a problem in pow or snow pack. Their amazing.
I had the old clickers when I was instructing back in the day and loved them, they had a bad rep for getting snow packed, but I literally had zero issues, ever. If you just want quick in and out, it's hard to beat. I just picked up a set of the Burtons and Photon boots, same deal.... they just work... Traditional bindings will still be the go to for hard core park junkies that want the added range of motion in the connection rather than all in the boot fit, it all just comes down to what you want out of a boot/binding and what the riders actual skill level is.
Same here, no issues ever.
My original '04's finally bit the dust this year. They were great. The integrated mid-boot strap was awesome with zero heel lift.
I use the clicker bindings since 20 years and still loving them! Haven‘t seen other people with clickers since years and always wonder that nobody seems to use them nowadays.
I love them when they work correctly with some adjustments. I have released while they were locked and almost lost the board after chasing 1/4 mile. Never wore a leash w straps now I do Make sure to adjust the back to allow enough room for easier entry
Take the heal cuffs off.
I am a intermediate rider and picked up burton step ons this season. I can't say how awesome they are. I definitely reccomend everyone to try them first. It is the evolution of Snowboarding. Boxes and rails.. NO problem it can do it all. I would like a pro to use them consistently and give feed back buy for everyone go buy a set up like this
Imagine if you saw Shaun White win the Olympics and he was wearing Step Ins, lol.
@@chadhelvey7827 That would of been awesome!
Good point on the back problems. Speaking from personal experience those step-ins can be really helpful. Also, there are places in the world where the runs are super short (less than 1 minute) and you need to be in and out of your bindings all the time.
Yup, the place I ride has a vert of 300ft lol. Step ins are a priority on my list.
I'm a snowboard patroller and will be riding those this season after many seasons using Flow bindings. They look promising to me as I can have to take off and put my board on easily 15 to 20 times per shift. Also the quickiness to step in compared to the Flow is big a plus to me when having to rush to an emergency, or even taking out the rear foot and being able to push yourself through a flat part of the mountain and step back in
Tell us the comparison between the two. I live near the slopes and i switched to flow not for the easy entry but for performance and comfort and i have to say after having bashed them for years , i am very impressed. I've had all kind of bindings, except for their weird sizing , they are by far the best i had, even though i usually hate aluminium bases.
Don't! You'll be waisting more time digging the snow out of the rear mechanism than if you had straps. If you want a quick entry system get the Burton Step Ons. They're so much better. I've used both and will never run that k2 junk again.
@@morganverdure6116 Try the Burton Step on's. I can get in quicker than people using Flow's and they don't have 2 pieces of metal between the board and bottom of your foot like the K2's do.
I have bad hips, and am approved for hip replacement. I love my Flow hybrids. I've used them to help me bind in quick and without having to reach in a way that is painful.
Instructors, because you’re in and out of your bindings all day so it really saves time.
I used the Clickers back when they first came out and loved them as a teen. took about 12 years off and now im back and now me and my kids use the new clickers. Also most of the time i click in as i stand up getting off the lifts and that makes so nice!
I broke my neck a few years ago and have a lot of movement deficiencies because of it. Sitting down and trying to bring my foot up far enough to get to my straps is agonizingly difficult. I think I am going to give these a shot.
The best Step In/Step On system was the Vans/Switch one! To bad Burton screw it up in Court
The burton step on are waaaaay better in getting in, you dont have to bend down and lock anything! Imagine having to lock it with mittens and snow packed in there.
looks like the lock is pretty easy though... but I do worry about the stepping in part although tommie did have a lot of snow on his boot for that test. I guess its a tradeoff because the burton step ons have a weird spaciness to them that almost feels like slop or something. Idk all signs point to just riding normal bindings.
@@willdykema you would struggle big time in those in powder. I use the step ons and they are super easy to get into, in powder or a groomed run, no bending over (which is the whole point). Much better.
it is a release lock as far as i understand. not needed to lock you in. just needed to make sure nothing hits the release. Liability.
You only lock the front foot. Never the back. I used them for years.
It looks like it is a bit hard to step in comparing to step on, especially if the hook is packed with snow or powder days. I personally enjoy step on very much. Would like to try this out sometime.
If it doesn’t lock in the best to start just Ollie and stomp hard on the back foot. It will step in fine. Forget locking. Only lock the front foot. If you are super worried about losing it, wear a leash on the front foot.
Edit- I have about 200 days riding K2 clicker HB pros back in the day.
I've had the original clickers for 21 years now and I have never locked them, they are the best for riding with skiers, the only drawback is I can't find new boots for the original clickers and after 21 years my boots are beat.
I rode the original Clickers 20 years ago. These look exactly the same, down to the rotating lever lock with the leash holes.
If it works it works. Why change it. I would like to see another company make Step in boots for the K2 Clicker system like how DC makes a boot for the Burton Step ons. K2 needs a great range of boots.
The performance with the cuffs off is better than any binding I have ever used in over 30 years. Unmatched Agility with control that comes from the sole of the boot allows for high speed base grabbing carves, ripping Glades and anything steep and deep... I might be reluctant to jam massive jumps..
I love clickers, click in on the lift and say “see you later strap binding guys!” I used to ride them back in the day when they came out in the late 90’s. So glad they’re back!🤘
When I got back into winter sports in 2016 I bought a set because I loved this too. Well after 4 seasons of messing with snow pack in the bottom of the boot either on the chair or out in the woods where I had to take back foot out and ripping the soles off 2 sets of boots because the tops are just glued to the sole with 1" of material and all your turning force pulls the tops from the bottom I had had enough of that. But I was really going to miss clicking in while on the chair.
I demoed and bought a set of the Burton Step Ons. 1st ride up the chair and I figured out how to "click in" while riding! They're worth 5 chairs of time vs straps. None of the k2 boot/binding issues either. The board feel is amazing in comparison and walking in them is so much easier around the lodge. Stay away from this K2 junk. The Burton's destroy them.
K2 clickers including the originals (I finally replaced mine from '04) are great for technical riders (a true hybrid of a soft boot vs alpine). Those who like precision control in both toe and heel turn, when you dial the correct tightness for you - they generally don't need to be adjusted all day - meaning your feet stay far more comfortable. Comfy feet + cardio / resistance training + altitude = all day rides.
The current '22s Kinsley's I have seem to "loosen" but they don't, the outer hard shell slips past the felt when it gets sweaty and/or wet, letting it slip further past the inner liner - which requires you to tighten it up a bit.
Ride Lasso Pros do the same thing. I almost want to try to put my old 32 liners in my new lassos. 🤷♂️
I’m aging myself a bit here, but when I first started riding they had step in bindings that almost always came on rental gear... it was so crappy... always getting packed with snow and would fail constantly... the boots were also special for that type of bindings and were much harder than your normal strap binding boot... the burton system seems to have solved at least one of these flaws by having several clicks in which you can actually put them on with powder crammed on the boot or bringing and still go, but these seem like you had them failing not even on a pow day... I’ll prob stick to my traditional setup for now as it gives me more freedom on boots, but I do hope the continue working on the tech
Yep the K2 system will always have snow pack in the boot issues. The Burton's don't. I've never once had to brush the bottom of my boot off. If there is snow in the binding it won't affect you getting "locked in" or you can quickly brush it out to get the 2nd position of engagement. My burton photons take about 6 full days of riding to break in. The k2's clicker boots I used were similar and just as they fully broke in the sole would start to rip off from the boot.
In the east, mine weren't too bad. But in Japan I always had issues with snow pack... just like he showed at the 1:36 mark.
@@GLHNSLHT2 Do you work for Burton, sell their system, or otherwise have a financial conflict of interest? How do you know K2's system will ALWAYS have snow pack issues? Can you time travel into the future?
I don't have a conflict of interest here. I haven't used K2 products for over 15 years, nor do I sell them or work for them.
@@teacherguy5084 I used them for 3 seasons, was always digging snow out of the bottom of the boots in all kinds of snow conditions. My kids were in their straps and waiting on me all the time if we had to get out of our bindings for one reason or another. In 3 seasons I went through 2 pairs of boots because they're design rips the soles apart from the main boot. And 1 pair of bindings because the aluminum tab that holds the release rod to the binding broke. K2 wouldn't warranty the 400+ dollar boots. But the local ski shop did get my 200 dollar bindings swapped. K2 was going to warranty the 1st pair. I jumped through all their hoops and when I gave them my size after they asked me so they could ship me a new pair they ghosted me. But when you cut a pocket in the bottom of the boot and then stick a metal plate in it things are going to get in there. And if it's cold and freezes or compacts it's going to stay in there until you dig it out. I swapped to step ons after the 2nd pair of boots and have never looked back. They handle so much better. Offer so much better feel and are more comfortable. I've never had snow I've had to dig out. Sweep the binding out of there is snow on it and step on. I've been riding then since Jan 2020 and the boots and bindings look brand new still. I'd have gone through at least 2 more pairs of K2's by now. They're junk. K2'S customer service and warranty is garbage.
seriously @@teacherguy5084 This clown is on every conversation about this. @GLHNSLHT2 We get it, you don't like these. Now move on.
Just bought some Nidecker Supermatics. Man I hope one day Snowboarding settles on a standard for step in/on bindings. Then again it took skiing about 6000 years to eventually agree to a standard! 🤪
If you are on a small hill with short rides and many tbar rides its good. Have a season on Burton dtep ons and love them.
Totally agree! I see so many reviews that never mention this point. I’m in the Midwest and without the step ons I would be putting bindings on and off 25% of the day, minimally.
I'm interested to see what the next generation does with this. We are jaded. We have been strapping in forever. Thousands of hours working the tricks and learning how to make it work for you. I wonder what that looks like with this tech in 10 years?
I just ordered these since my gear was in need of replacement looks like a lot of fun.
Old tech being sold as new. Good vid explaining benefits.
I'm in the Midwest and primarily board in Michigan at places that barely have a vert of 300ft 😔. So I'm on the lift a ton so step ins have always been a priority on my list. Ive never had an issue with my OG Clicker set up. Can't go wrong with clickers, I'd do it again in a heart beat!
Dope vid. Definitely not getting step Ins but appreciate the info my dooood
I have Burton step ons omgs there amazing save your self and get the step on system is so clean
I have Burton step on for 2 seasons, it's a life saver to chase after my skier kid.
Would love to try the K2 clicker just to see the differences.
my only worry would be having to take off and put them back on in pow, my step ons have been great for pow but im curios how step ins
@@bobbyhoffos5975 Great point. When I get stuck in pow, I can barely get myself upright, let alone being able to stomp back in 😅
Hey tommie
K2 issued a recall for their clicker units in Canada. But there is only a note on the product page.
Most people probably don't know about it! It would be nice to warn people
Great for the mid west. when you lap 100× an hour! you need something to save time!
Nailed it.
Hey Tommie, what board is that? Looks like it has great flex and a good deal of pop!
I disagree with the point that these are for beginners and entry level people. At an entry price of $600 without a snowboard, beginners aren’t going to shell out that money to find out if they like the sport
you overlooked the one major issue with the bindings. the lever is very hard to reach. if you fall the lever is almost impossible to reach. i had to put a bolt on one side to make it easier to reach and its still a challenge 3 inches higher then its supposed to. if k2 fixed the lever issue these bindings would be almost perfect aside from sometimes having trouble getting them to click
January 2024 here. I’m a beginner snowboarder with traditional bindings. I’ve been looking at the Step On’s by Burton and the Nidecker Supermatics. I’ve seen the Clew ones but I don’t really like them. So, I popped over to my local ski and snowboard shop yesterday and that was the FIRST time I’ve ever heard of these bindings! 😮 (apparently Burton is going away from selling in small retailer shops and sticking only to online and flagship stores). My question is… what’s wrong with the K2 Clickers that shops and online are not talking about or showing customers these boots/bindings? ***I DID see that there was a recall of the 2021 bindings… what was that about?***
I’ve been riding them for 20 years. They are excellent. It’s all about marketing.
Stoked to see you back on the slopes Tommie, it’s been a long time coming! We are doing the snow dances in the Midwest and praying for powder 🤙
I find it hilarious that people doubt silly stuff like 'are they safe for tricks'. Step-ins are for everyone. They have BETTER toe and heel responsiveness than any strap. If you tell yourself straps are better, you're only fooling yourself. I've been riding clickers on one of my boards for over 20 years. They are simply the best. Seeing 20 boarders all strapping in at the top of the hill is so sad to me as I just step in and cruise right by.
WD-40 is the trick to keeping snow OUT!! Spray on just a little before each session and you'll NEVER have to deal with snow getting in the way. I've been riding K2 Clickers for over 30 years since they were first invented. Why the entire industry hasn't gone in that direction is a total mystery to me. Strap in's suck and are incredibly outdated. K2 did it first and they do it the best. Everyone who tries to come up with their own version (Burton) will always be second place. Never using anything but K2 Clickers until the day I die!!!
Looks like getting in, is like bicycle clipless pedals.
good review!! gonna show some of my customers this vid when they are hesitant on buying the clickers, or send them to your channel
Good reason for your customers to be hesitant. They suck and here's why. 1st as you can see in the video is they still have issues with snow buildup in the back of the boot bottom. Sure you can stomp/ollie down multiple times on a nice hard packed run to get it to engage. But try doing that when you're standing in a foot of fresh. It's not happening. You'll have to sit down and dig that out. 2nd that metal plate in the bottom of the boot kills all the board feel you get. I didn't think it would until I rode something else and realised how much it helps your riding. 3rd and my biggest issue is that the boots don't last. All the force in a turn is pulling on the top of the boot. K2's design and manufacturing just glues the top of the boot to the sole with 1" of material. No screws or anything. So after a season and a half the sole rips off the bottom and you're out $400 on boots.
When you review the step ons, could you please give pros and cons + Compare and contrast?
I rode clickers from Jan 2016 to Jan 2020. Liked the feel of them. But after ripping the soles clean off 2 pairs of boots in that time I had had enough. The boots just have the uppers glued to the sole with about an inch of material all the way around. If you remove the liner you can see this. This doesn't work as all the force you put into the bindings comes from the top of the boot. So you're constantly pulling the top of the boot off the sole. Also and you can see in this video the snow pack in the bottom of the boot. This might be ok if you're out on some groomed run. But if you're in deep powder you can't stomp down hard enough to clear it. So you're constantly digging the snow and sometimes hard ice out of the bottom of your boots to get engaged. My daughters and their straps were in faster than I was allot of the time because of it.
I was able to demo a set of the Burton Step ons at my local mountain. All I can say is WOW what a difference! I didn't realize how much the metal plate in the Clicker boots was limiting board feel and how having that board feel helps your riding. There's no metal between the bottom of your foot and the board. You can feel it flex under your foot. It's so nice. Also the connection points are integrated into the tops of the boots allot better with stitching. I don't see them being able to be pulled off/out of the boot. Snow buildup is a non-issue. If there is some in the bottom of the binding you give a quick brush with the back of your glove and step in. Even if you don't brush it out the system will engage.
Don't waste you're money on the K2 clicker/Clicker X HB. The burtons kill them all day long.
@@GLHNSLHT2 Glad to know. I got step on & step on x bindings for my boards now. Now I am looking at the DC boots for the next iteration over photons
@@Rixter1455 nice! I got a second set of regular step ons and a set of the X's as well for my stuff. I like the photons. If I see a set of the DC's in store I might try them though I'm probably more apt to go for the ions but I don't like speed lacing.
@@GLHNSLHT2 I heard the ions aren't that great for the cost. Also not a fan of the speed lacing too, but it does come with burton's life liner. The DC boots, from what people have said, are extremely comfortable and are comparable in cost with the photons. I have had hot spot issues with the photons on my pinky toe (especially when I wear thick socks) so I am hoping the DC boots would alleviate that
@@Rixter1455 sucks about the hot spot. Would the wide version photons fix it? I'm happy with the photons as they fit my feet. I also went down a half size this year and went to Burton's performance+lightweight socks. Still dialing it in a bit with break in but last time out I found a comfy setting.
I love the idea of step in bindings, but as much of a hassle as it is, it seems like strapping in and getting up on my heel side helps the arthritis in my lower back by stretching and increasing flexibility as well as strengthening my legs. Would love to hear what @mobilityduo think about it. Putting it off for now.
But you can do those exercises at home. Stepping in/on will get you more laps. Just get the Burton Step Ons or you'll be on the ground digging snow out from the bottom of the boot all the time. Or taking them back because the top of the boot has separated from the sole and k2 won't warranty it.
Dopeeeee!!!!!! I like how it doesn’t have the clamps by the toes like my burton step ons!
Until you've ridden both you have no idea. Those toe clamps simulate a strap binding much better. You're also not fighting with snow buildup as you can see in the video. He got lucky with it. I've had to deal with way more snow stuck in the back lock. You got the better system by far. Don't downgrade.
Take the heal cuffs and high backs off!! It changes everything..
Sick vid! Definitely don't know if step-ons are for me but i'd like to try them eventually
Did I miss the part where he showed how to get out of the bindings?? I saw how to put them on but not how to take them off.
There’s a little lever thingy
Previous version without the highback was way better, as you could easily slam the snow out with a kick and click. I guess you might be able to kick backward and step in.
I ripped the sole off 2 pair of the non-highback system in 4 years of riding. Though I see this doing the same as the boots are very similar and it's the toe side the rips the soles off. Get the Burtons. No boot sole seperation issues and zero snow pack issues.
Other than the price, what reason is there NOT to get some step on type bindings? Reply if youre one of those who don't want them im curious about your reasoning
Way too stiff of boots and bindings for me
@@SmallMTNShredder I think they have 2 different boots.
My reason not to get these is that I destroyed 2 sets of $400 boots using the non-highback verson in 4 seasons. Ripped the soles clean off because of toe side turning. The high back will not stop this force. K2 just glues the top of the boot to the sole with 1" of material. All your force pulls the top of the boot from the sole. Also the snow pack in the back location sucks to deal with all the time. Allot of the time you have to dig it out with a pick or knife. I'll never ride the K2 system again.
Now I went to Burton's Step On system and love it! The boots are much better engineered and constructed so I don't see any issues with the soles seperating. Also there's no snow pack issues. You have board feel which helps your riding instead of a metal plate under foot. Between my family of 3 boarders we have 5 sets so far and will ride them always.
I remember rentals in the late 90s having K2 clickers. There was a major ice buildup problem and I had friends clear them out w/ ski poles. The new design looks like bigger hook/cleat pieces, so maybe that will be more self-clearing. I remember liking the Stussy's better as a beginner, but now I'd hate all the lateral play. I ended up w/ Burton's first Step-Ins. All 3 of those boots were freaking heavy.
Nope. Still have to dig that shit out all the time. Burtons new Step ons are great. Same feel as straps. Easier to get in and out of than anything else. Weight of the boot is the same as a regular boot.
@@GLHNSLHT2 I wear Size 14 Wide Non-StepOn Photons right now. Alas the StepOns don't come in that size.
@@aaalllen they are going to have size 14 and 15 next year.
@@GLHNSLHT2 Are they going to have bigger/wider bindings to support those?
@@aaalllen I have not heard anymore about what they're going to offer other than that size in a boot. I don't know if they'll have a wide version. Based on their side ranges of boots vs. bindings across their range of assume they'd have to have a larger binding especially for the 15's.
will these clicker boots work with regular strap on bindings? please help!!
I think that they are a little bit “difficult” to get in, in order to lock and be secure. Did you tried the burton step on?? I tried the burton and with the heel lock it’s enough to be safe, and you just but the book on the binding (no effort)...
but I think that other brands should dig in to the step on technology.
yea wait till he's standing in a foot of fresh with that much snow buildup on his boot. It's going to go from a "little bit difficult" to not going to happen till you sit and dig all that out. The Burton step on doesn't have that issue at all.
The question should be: who are they not for?
What boots did you use tommie? Was it boundary or maysis?
Thank u very much i am gonna look into the clickers
Don't do it look into Burton step ins instead or a rear entry binding like flow these things rip the soles off your boots
Have K2 clickers with out a high back. They work. Not sure the high back helps
Same I took them off - except for the mid-plane low edge risers, it's nearly the same base plate as the originals.
Never tried...but look sick ..let's goo.
skip this junk and get the burton Step on system. Way better.
you should also review the Flow Step in bindings. and I am one of those that broke two bones in my back.
Get the Burton step ons. You still have to somewhat bend over to get into the flows. The burton's you don't .
Wouldn't the play in the K2's be good for freestyle riding? The have a bit of side to side movement since they mount in the middle. I think that would be great for park and jumps
They are great for park and jumps, I have the clickers from 2017 without the high back and love them. I’ve hit some large jumps 20ft or so and had no issues. Also do a lot of high speed riding(+55 mph) with my clickers And never had any issues
Just bout a new set. Going to try it out!!!
Have you tried them yet??
Take them back and get the Burton Step ons. Way better system with zero headaches trying to get in.
Wow.. a special...... very cool
So something in interested in, skis are said to be safer in avalanches becuase they pop off with the force, do you think those would pop off your feet during an avalanche like skis since it's not strapped to you?
Nope. I had old K2 clickers and they NEVER popped out.
When you’re rising, they are not meant to release.
Riding
They also have a flat version of the clicker which is a little bit easier to get out of (but you Gotta make sure you get there clicker boot that does not say XHB) And what you can do is get one of the Long leashes that wrap around your leg and Attach either end to the levers on the sides, so all you need to do is bend down, grab the leash strap, and pull up, and you’re out.
first board 20 plus years ago I had k2 clickers 😁
Clickers are wack. The boots weight almost as much as ski boots and in my option the system doesn't work well epically at the smaller sizes. If someone wants a convince binding setup its all about the burton step on. Its way lighter and the step in is much easier and more intuitive.
Do the new 20-21 K2 HB clickers work with the old school clicker bindings? I have the bindings on my board but its time for new boots. Thoughts anyone?
Can you give me the link to your helmet if you can. Keep up the 🔥 videos
It’s a giro ledge with MPs 🤙🏼
Yewwwwwwww!!!
If it takes 3 tries to get into the bindings combined with the possibility of unlocking them with the lever accidentally while riding make this setup a hard pass for me.
I owned the 2nd edition for 20 years and no issues.
I've had it take 10-15 tries before I gave up and sat down to dig the snow out of the bottom of the boot. Ditched them after destroying the 2nd pair of boots in 4 seasons and went with the Burton Step Ons . They always engage, no snow ever get's stuck to the bottom of the boot but if some is in the binding you can just brush it out real quick or step on and it'll engage.
Anyone know how these compare to the new version of the Burton Step-ins?
I'm interested in the Burton Step ons and watched many review video's.
Never seen a true compare video, but deducting from most of the comments the Burtons are the way to go. Might be a bit pricier but overall they seem more robust than the K2 system (shoe soles letting go after 1,5 season and apparently a terrible customer service on top of that).
Also, nobody with the Burtons has a problem stepping in with snow,,and this video immediately show's he needs 3 tries to get in after wiping some snow away.
So for me it's clear at least.
Ow I even forgot the part that the disconnect system on Burtons seems much more simple and quicker to operate. Also, easy to switch from one side to the other, so the release handle will be in the middle instead of the outside.
@@scratastic1 thanks for the reply! I agree, that snow issue seemed like an obvious deal breaker for me.
Only took me 3 times with snow …….
Tell Sean he needs a new hoodie....
I rode my K2 Clickers today! from almost 20 years ago. They were perfect then and they are perfect now. There was NOHTHING wrong with them back then. The "sitting on your ass wratcheting" burton binding industry destroyed them for no reason other than market share.
What about a beer belly?
Lmao, that's my deal. Step on's for me
you're NOT collabing with Buckhouse anymore?
Is it only for k2 bord ?
No
Fix 4x4 (standard) hole pattern and the Burton channel= every board (except old Burton pattern)
Sorry bro but not liking the idea of step ins. You still gotta bend over to close close the extra safety clip so either way you’re bending over. Just don’t see these things being a big deal in snowboard industry.
You don't "HAVE" to. I never did up my rear one. Heck most of the time I forgot to do the front one as well. Once you're in you have to rip the sole of the boot off to come out. That being said about a season and a half and that's what starts to happen and you're out $400 in boots.
Now the Burton step ons eliminate all of this an offer way better board feel and control on top of it. They got it right.
Would this work on gnu riders choice or just k2 boards ?
Just curious, is the Clicker x boot compatible with normal bindings?
@@tommiebennett Aha, thought it would fit better. Thanks for sharing!
Tommy please message me I have an idea on a new design for step on’s/in’s
Your Instagram says I can’t message you unless you follow me
My Instagram is @Weber0524
I just hit you
Has anyone tried the Burton Step Ons? I’m talking about the new gen from this last year.
Are you talking about the fix for the heel cleat? Because that was fixed after the first season ('17). I have had a set of '18 and '19s with around 40+ days each and both are in excellent shape, I only got a second set to downsize my boots. The notorious hotspot issue isn't a thing if you have narrow-normal width feet.
Performance wise they aren't as stiff as I'd ride normal strap bindings but are much better toe side than any other binding I've had. Honestly unless I'm riding pipe I'm using the stepons they're just so convenient with really no downside.
Your mileage may vary, these things are killer on 20+ lap days but probably aren't worth it if you're only doing half days or if you're shredding with other boarders that you have to wait on anyhow
Yeah after looking at vids of this years stepons they haven't changed anything except colours since the heel cleat update in 17
@@th3oryO I'll stand and wait for my buddies vice sitting in the snow all day. Worth it to me to be comfortable with an outstanding and super responsive burton step on binding.
@@th3oryO What boot did you get?
Got them, love them.
too many commercials
First!
Not so functional and for the price you can get high quality boots and bindings
If the pros don't use em. I dont...this for ok boomers
To be fair, the pros probably aren't getting in or out as often as the average snowboarder
When the clicker originally came out in the late 90s, everyone of their pros were on the clicker
@@robnestor3371 I rode in the 90's. My friend swore by clickers. I didn't use em. We used to use leashes too. Are they making a comeback?
@@vincenttrzeciak878 according to K2, they didn’t leave. In my opinion, I am psyched that they’re back. I used to ride them in the late 90s, and loved them. I think They have better response then strap bindings.
@@robnestor3371 I used them from 2016 to 2020. Destroyed 2 sets of boots. Went to the Burton Step Ons and got rid of all the issues and gained far more. The K2 system is old and out-dated. The Burton system got rid of all the problems. They feel like strap bindings without needing straps for the most part but are more responsive.