my theory about the shortcut is that at the point of the ps2 demo they wanted racers to go through the building, but decided to scrap the idea. This would explain the detailed furniture inside, as you would've most likely driven through it
U can see it in the base game, but the demo is worse, but it also depends on the demo patch, there are different ones too not only multiple of ps2 demos but also xbx demos
Olympic city is separated from the earth and aimlessly roams around space, as a result various buildings conveniently moved to block some roads, while other roads are floating around.
Kinda. There was someone who made a video that had them driving around one of the race tracks. They were able to see a different race track that was a part of the Olympic City map but it was floating in the air in the distance and you could see the race barrier.
@@LimiitedChans Do you have a source? I know you can get to the drift tracks from the drag races, and vice versa. Kind of like how the Airport tracks can be accessed from the Bayview Bridge track in UG2.
If only we'd get the map toolkit, maybe restoring, reconnecting and reconstructing all these cut streets and maps for all NFS games altogether might not be so impossible and we could actually get a complete map of Olympic City. Alas, one can only hope.
If I had to guess, free roam is most likely for NFS Underground 2 unless you did what one of the unused "races" in Most Wanted did. It's called *20_2_2_habib_test* (likely named after Art Director Habib Zargarpour) there and the goal is unreachable.
Almost same problem with underground 2, when I used to be younger, on PS2 I'm trying to do super hydraulic and entering runway. Now I knew the map file is just different. Probably we would combine all maps together like bayview bridge, construction site, runway, and URL track
@@bitelaserkhalif I don't think it will work. Someone tried connecting the Bayview Bridge drag track but that track does not fit anywhere on the actual free roam map. It's just it's own thing in an isolated area. Like the URL tracks.
I believe the sewers were at one point a highway, because I doubt a street would normally have an exit that goes straight into the sewer system like that, and it was later decided to be the sewers we currently have instead of just another highway extension
Actually, in the United States sewers are accessable just like that but usually there's a fence so only authorized personnal can access it normally. Motor City Online (2001) also has an accessable course through the sewer channel on the Gastown course (Gastown and Spillway track).
@@TheRama2299 No prob, teenagers in the 40's to 80's used to race in the dried sewer channels, which is also portrait in many movies. Also in Undeground, the entrance is actually on the side of the street which you see on a few sprint courses, the circuits just make it appear to be an ordinary exit into the entrance.
Just to add, the sewage system is based on the Los Angeles River. Which is a known film location for car chase and racing scenes in movies and shows. Also, most highways in America are a nightmare to drive.
I like this kind of videos, finding some hidden or cut stuff in games, especially in Need For Speed. Keep it up man, nice video. I hope FreeRoam mode will get these roads connected so we'll get the whole city to drive in.
Yes, it was supposed to be free open world. But the computers back then couldn't handle to well. That's way they made nfs underground 2 with worse graphics than the first game
@@NFSBeast2365 Plus there is a modder that connected all the streets from the city(except drag and drift streets) because you couldn't free roam. EA could have simply made different tracks that are not connected between them
8:20 I dont thing this is a sewer, this is a Highway my theory is that they made it a sewer halfway trought production since its useless that a Highway ends
I can agree that.But i think it still can be a highway if theres appropriate textures.Road texture on the center and concrete wall texture on the sides,some highways had slanted walls
completly agree, they made a portion of a highway but don' t have any other ideas to give continue. my other theory is that some drag tracks are parallel to that sewer and the connections are that up bridges like 14 and ave going from the high buildings to the industrial area and some ghettos. i hope some day olympic city get remastered and explore all the corners cause the skybox show that the city is huge.
It doesn't mean there was free roam planned, since the racing is based to be within one city, they probably designed a general layout and then decided which courses will be finally used for racing. Since the game was right after Hot Pursuit 2 and all NFS games before 2003 were single track based, the basic structure of Underground has similarities and remains of Hot Pursuit 2.
I don't know why, but this video is very interesting. It turns out that there were entire streets that were connected by those goofy cropped turns. And when I was a kid, I always wondered why developers didn't make normal streets there. I especially wondered why there is no race that uses that wide road that has always been blocked by red road blocks. Before these blocks, you had to turn into a Japanese-style forest with curvy roads. But this wide road was fully textured and detailed, but never used. I think it was cut down because there were only 700MB CDs and the developers had to cut the content to fit the game onto the disk. Great video. Thanks for nostalgia.
Yet they were able to have NFS underground, as free roam, on disk... Maybe... but likely someone decided it more profitable to save free roam for next game.
That wide road also i terested me as a kid. It was the only complete unrechable road and it wasnt just blocked by a random building, it also connected to a logical place. I had dreams of driving down it
A good question, because we will never see the connector roads in NFS World opened up until the toolkit comes. You can in fact find some textured geometry if you manage to get out-of-bounds, or drive through the barriers with the camper on WorldOnline PL.
Hmm we might be able to restore those textures for a full look at the game but eh... I'm not sure if it was in the GC/PS2 prototypes as well, I didn't take a deep look. Also I'm driving a BUS, deal with it: i.imgur.com/18kWvJU.jpg
I really wish to drive on these even without any scenery and broken render zones, just roads and working collisions on them ported to the final game, imagine 😳
These cut roads looks like something out of Trackmania, lmao btw, i'm planning on making a TMX account so i can share my horribly made tracks with the people I changed my mind, i won't use TMX
What's interesting is that cut sewer parts and other cut roads later appeared in some mobile NFS games. Atleast they mostly kept the map not like carbon where they in the middle of development were like "naaah man not feeling that anymore let's just make a whole new map" LoL
I’m thinking for this game they either ran out of time or wasn’t under budget to make. That or the size was a problem and didn’t know how to optimize all of this yet. And that’s when nfsug2 took place and their true colors shined
Never watched this video until now, but man it kills me to see the plans BlackBox had for the game that they likely were never able to actually complete due to deadlines by EA. There are even a few side roads in the final game that were clealy supposed to be connected as well. It is something that we noticed while working on free roam.
There's a plane starting to lift of sometimes when you drive by the airport corner (the corner with that outer way). So I guess the game stores the plane under the map and when you drive by, it sometimes triggers the plane and it goes through the non solid ground nearby the drivable street.
Wow. Even back then, Black Box wanted to include more but EA's deadlines wouldn't let them. Of course, we couldn't really predict things would turn up like this… that's why the Harry Potter games had to coincide with the movie adaptations' releases, isn't it?
I always loved this "Pocket dimension" trick, when you move the camera to an unused area of the game, and the main part of the map disappears, while exactly the hidden part of the map appears
Looks like before they scrapped the free roam city idea, they layed down all template roads to build the city scenery around them, but when that idea was canceled, only the roads that we know today were used and finished, and instead of removing the unused rest, they just hide them away, probably because it was easier.
absolutely lit boss You can also tell which roads don't have collision because they're a lot darker in colour in comparison to the well-lit roads that do have collisions.
I find it strange they didn't have tracks that combined the Stadium and Market Street circuits, they're right next to each other and have perfect intersecting points like that dark mall with the fountain, and the long straight they both use that's also used for Inner City
@@divecolosio4988 idk the tools are supposadly being developed by nfsu360 but first screenshots from that tool surfaced in 2014 and it still isnt out so my homes are lower and lower
@@comdrive3865 it is possible to use ninjaripper (to rip assets from the games memory), but like you said it is painfully long to do since you need to place all of the sssets back into thrirvoriginal place. I am currently porting the bayview racetrack (from nfs ug2) to beamng drive (i will send a link to a video shortly)
i really like to see free roam in the underground but in free section is simillar to circuite race but in the mod you can do free roam in map city in olympic city i wished for it...🙋👦👦💙
I feel like if NFSU 1 had a remaster where it looked more realistic, with this map in free roam with realistic engine sounds it would be greatly appreciated by the og nfs community
someone should fix this and make a mega mod for nfsu that have free roam, finished streets and all this shortcuts and removed things, this game was everybody childhood, the game deserves it...
you think there is a way, to capture a full city as a 3D model by some riping program method? i ask, because it would be neat to see the olympic city apear as mod in certain games...
Olympic city really colourful and has various environment If only they make it has free roam maybe it will be better than Bayview, Palmont, or even Rockport
In the next video, *379Felipe* suddenly finds a ghost town from GTA III in NFS Underground 1 with the help of the Debag Camera. :D P.S.: Sorry for my bad English... . 😩😔
@@379Felipe I see. How did u get the iso? I found a demo in jampack winter 2003, I was planning on modifying the original nfsu iso with the demo one since I can't find a proper demo iso
@@379Felipehey bro, I want to ask u did you explore the drag maps in free cam? Also the map that was ment to be is actually visible, you know the dark blue map witl the lighter blue roads, that's the actually map? I think 🤔
Like I mean what I remember from playing the game as a kid. The drag tracks are different frome the race tracks, (some) and I think I will see this in the demo with free cam in the drag races, you showed only free cam in the race track map? (EDIT: I was just taking track maps and making a complete road map im the main game, and circuit and sprint races are mostly on the same roads, and drag races seem to have a different map, you know the the bus station there is a drag race located, I think that drag races were made on a different idea of Olympic city, and a different dragrace show this, its the same map but slightly different, u need to look 4 the details.)
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my theory about the shortcut is that at the point of the ps2 demo they wanted racers to go through the building, but decided to scrap the idea. This would explain the detailed furniture inside, as you would've most likely driven through it
I agree
it's like in nfsu2 in the pigeon park where there is a straight shortcut, you break some windows and you enter a place where there are flowers
They reused this idea on most wanted with the bus station
Midnight club peaked that idea
@@WatcherKoops4677yeah bro
Now it's clear why some turns are so clumsily blocked by houses.
Ur god damn right
U can see it in the base game, but the demo is worse, but it also depends on the demo patch, there are different ones too not only multiple of ps2 demos but also xbx demos
Olympic city is separated from the earth and aimlessly roams around space, as a result various buildings conveniently moved to block some roads, while other roads are floating around.
i have seen you before.....
Kinda. There was someone who made a video that had them driving around one of the race tracks. They were able to see a different race track that was a part of the Olympic City map but it was floating in the air in the distance and you could see the race barrier.
@@LimiitedChans Do you have a source? I know you can get to the drift tracks from the drag races, and vice versa. Kind of like how the Airport tracks can be accessed from the Bayview Bridge track in UG2.
I'm also interested in these "floating" tracks that can be seen from somewhere.
I thing so?
If only we'd get the map toolkit, maybe restoring, reconnecting and reconstructing all these cut streets and maps for all NFS games altogether might not be so impossible and we could actually get a complete map of Olympic City.
Alas, one can only hope.
If I had to guess, free roam is most likely for NFS Underground 2 unless you did what one of the unused "races" in Most Wanted did. It's called *20_2_2_habib_test* (likely named after Art Director Habib Zargarpour) there and the goal is unreachable.
Almost same problem with underground 2, when I used to be younger, on PS2 I'm trying to do super hydraulic and entering runway. Now I knew the map file is just different. Probably we would combine all maps together like bayview bridge, construction site, runway, and URL track
new title
@@bitelaserkhalif I don't think it will work. Someone tried connecting the Bayview Bridge drag track but that track does not fit anywhere on the actual free roam map. It's just it's own thing in an isolated area. Like the URL tracks.
@@LimiitedChans well, maybe except for the airport url tracks
That roundabout would have been great to race through.
The defult texture sends chills down my spine
@Gomam0n NFS Backrooms vibes were with us sinve the beginning with Carbon, its creepy Ekstrak soundtrack and its secrets
You immediately forget that the game has cool soundtracks, from these textures and without lighting.
@@ken1k_b Cruelty Squad looking textures
The music doesn't help one bit.
I believe the sewers were at one point a highway, because I doubt a street would normally have an exit that goes straight into the sewer system like that, and it was later decided to be the sewers we currently have instead of just another highway extension
Actually, in the United States sewers are accessable just like that but usually there's a fence so only authorized personnal can access it normally.
Motor City Online (2001) also has an accessable course through the sewer channel on the Gastown course (Gastown and Spillway track).
Interesting, thanks for the info, I didn't knew that
@@TheRama2299 No prob, teenagers in the 40's to 80's used to race in the dried sewer channels, which is also portrait in many movies.
Also in Undeground, the entrance is actually on the side of the street which you see on a few sprint courses, the circuits just make it appear to be an ordinary exit into the entrance.
Just to add, the sewage system is based on the Los Angeles River. Which is a known film location for car chase and racing scenes in movies and shows. Also, most highways in America are a nightmare to drive.
I like this kind of videos, finding some hidden or cut stuff in games, especially in Need For Speed. Keep it up man, nice video. I hope FreeRoam mode will get these roads connected so we'll get the whole city to drive in.
absolutly agree would love to drive through the city unopossed even if its laggy and not finished
This'll be a good project. Especially if the Olympic city modified to be used in subsequent titles
this is my childhood dream
Hey guys! There is a free roam mod! th-cam.com/video/METzG1eEqX0/w-d-xo.html
@@jamaic7638 i believe there is a mod for this?
This gives me the feeling that NFSU1 was supposed to be a Openworld game!
Yes, it was supposed to be free open world. But the computers back then couldn't handle to well. That's way they made nfs underground 2 with worse graphics than the first game
What, i heard Underground 1 was never supposed to feature free-roam?
@@theodorvalentinghita1779 where's your proof, may i ask?
@@NFSBeast2365 I've seen this in a video some time ago.
@@NFSBeast2365 Plus there is a modder that connected all the streets from the city(except drag and drift streets) because you couldn't free roam. EA could have simply made different tracks that are not connected between them
8:20 I dont thing this is a sewer, this is a Highway
my theory is that they made it a sewer halfway trought production since its useless that a Highway ends
I can agree that.But i think it still can be a highway if theres appropriate textures.Road texture on the center and concrete wall texture on the sides,some highways had slanted walls
completly agree, they made a portion of a highway but don' t have any other ideas to give continue. my other theory is that some drag tracks are parallel to that sewer and the connections are that up bridges like 14 and ave going from the high buildings to the industrial area and some ghettos. i hope some day olympic city get remastered and explore all the corners cause the skybox show that the city is huge.
Hey this is pretty good. The textures have a lot of colour
It's 2020 and this content still amazes me
It's always nice seeing what could've been for my favourite NFS.
Interesting, it seems that the game was going to be free roam at one point but then cut.
Because the computers back then wouldn't handle free roam properly
It doesn't mean there was free roam planned, since the racing is based to be within one city, they probably designed a general layout and then decided which courses will be finally used for racing. Since the game was right after Hot Pursuit 2 and all NFS games before 2003 were single track based, the basic structure of Underground has similarities and remains of Hot Pursuit 2.
I like the atmosphere of Olympic City so much... I think even more than bayview
Better than bayview tbh
But you can't have mountain area in NFSU1
Hey. Nice to know that you back to make great video.
It's intresting that old game have secrets inside files. Great job :D.
I don't know why, but this video is very interesting. It turns out that there were entire streets that were connected by those goofy cropped turns. And when I was a kid, I always wondered why developers didn't make normal streets there. I especially wondered why there is no race that uses that wide road that has always been blocked by red road blocks. Before these blocks, you had to turn into a Japanese-style forest with curvy roads. But this wide road was fully textured and detailed, but never used.
I think it was cut down because there were only 700MB CDs and the developers had to cut the content to fit the game onto the disk.
Great video. Thanks for nostalgia.
Yet they were able to have NFS underground, as free roam, on disk...
Maybe... but likely someone decided it more profitable to save free roam for next game.
That wide road also i terested me as a kid. It was the only complete unrechable road and it wasnt just blocked by a random building, it also connected to a logical place. I had dreams of driving down it
If someday a modder can reconstruct all these unfinished roads for freeroam it will be a amazing game
When we will finally get map editor for these earlier titles from EA?
A good question, because we will never see the connector roads in NFS World opened up until the toolkit comes. You can in fact find some textured geometry if you manage to get out-of-bounds, or drive through the barriers with the camper on WorldOnline PL.
Hmm we might be able to restore those textures for a full look at the game but eh...
I'm not sure if it was in the GC/PS2 prototypes as well, I didn't take a deep look.
Also I'm driving a BUS, deal with it: i.imgur.com/18kWvJU.jpg
afaik they don't exist in the GC/PS2 prototypes
also, gimme bus, i want to drive bus xd
I really wish to drive on these even without any scenery and broken render zones, just roads and working collisions on them ported to the final game, imagine 😳
These cut roads looks like something out of Trackmania, lmao
btw, i'm planning on making a TMX account so i can share my horribly made tracks with the people
I changed my mind, i won't use TMX
What's interesting is that cut sewer parts and other cut roads later appeared in some mobile NFS games. Atleast they mostly kept the map not like carbon where they in the middle of development were like "naaah man not feeling that anymore let's just make a whole new map" LoL
Nice job, man
Thanks for video and information)
Hi.
Maybe the developers intended to make Need For Speed Underground a open World game(Just like its sequel),but gave up on that Idea for some reason...🤔
I’m thinking for this game they either ran out of time or wasn’t under budget to make. That or the size was a problem and didn’t know how to optimize all of this yet. And that’s when nfsug2 took place and their true colors shined
Or due to the limited disc space the game could fit in at the time of release. So they most likely needed to cut content off.
Never watched this video until now, but man it kills me to see the plans BlackBox had for the game that they likely were never able to actually complete due to deadlines by EA.
There are even a few side roads in the final game that were clealy supposed to be connected as well. It is something that we noticed while working on free roam.
There's a plane starting to lift of sometimes when you drive by the airport corner (the corner with that outer way). So I guess the game stores the plane under the map and when you drive by, it sometimes triggers the plane and it goes through the non solid ground nearby the drivable street.
yup likely
Nice video man, I hope one day somebody can remade those cut roads and complete the missing textures as a mod.
Wow. Even back then, Black Box wanted to include more but EA's deadlines wouldn't let them. Of course, we couldn't really predict things would turn up like this… that's why the Harry Potter games had to coincide with the movie adaptations' releases, isn't it?
This type of content is my favorite,alongside the incredible mods that the NFS comunity makes,fresh air for my day
Thanks as always
I always loved this "Pocket dimension" trick, when you move the camera to an unused area of the game, and the main part of the map disappears, while exactly the hidden part of the map appears
Looks like before they scrapped the free roam city idea, they layed down all template roads to build the city scenery around them, but when that idea was canceled, only the roads that we know today were used and finished, and instead of removing the unused rest, they just hide them away, probably because it was easier.
absolutely lit boss
You can also tell which roads don't have collision because they're a lot darker in colour in comparison to the well-lit roads that do have collisions.
I find it strange they didn't have tracks that combined the Stadium and Market Street circuits, they're right next to each other and have perfect intersecting points like that dark mall with the fountain, and the long straight they both use that's also used for Inner City
NFSU was such a gem
Thank you for still uploading this content.
if there are asetto corsa drift in some counter strike maps. why not in a restored and completed olympic city?
There are no tools for exporting old nfs maps
@@JukoYT yet?
@@divecolosio4988 idk the tools are supposadly being developed by nfsu360 but first screenshots from that tool surfaced in 2014 and it still isnt out so my homes are lower and lower
@@JukoYT Someone could rip the map out and recreate it bit by bit, but it would be painstakingly long to do
@@comdrive3865 it is possible to use ninjaripper (to rip assets from the games memory), but like you said it is painfully long to do since you need to place all of the sssets back into thrirvoriginal place.
I am currently porting the bayview racetrack (from nfs ug2) to beamng drive (i will send a link to a video shortly)
how many more secrets does this ps2 demo have?!
So basically all unfinished side roads in the final game were planned to be connected at some Point?
Exactly, friend. They should go for Free Roam option. Actual races would be on game map instead large event selection etc.
@@michazmuda1477 ooohhhhh
i really like to see free roam in the underground but in free section is simillar to circuite race but in the mod you can do free roam in map city in olympic city i wished for it...🙋👦👦💙
The first and second song fit strangely well with nfsu's vibe
We need to remake these. And maybe some day we can fix the mw 2012
I wonder what a GTA-style top-down map of the whole of Olympic City would look like. Cut/inaccessible roads included.
I feel like if NFSU 1 had a remaster where it looked more realistic, with this map in free roam with realistic engine sounds it would be greatly appreciated by the og nfs community
someone should fix this and make a mega mod for nfsu that have free roam, finished streets and all this shortcuts and removed things, this game was everybody childhood, the game deserves it...
someone pls fix this game, we would love it, this game put me into cars
There is a free roam mod at least :) th-cam.com/video/METzG1eEqX0/w-d-xo.html
3:17 The plane is still there in the final game. I've seen it in the free roam mod, in one of those roads that are normally blocked by reset barriers.
But once these roads were full of races and objects and now they are empty and dead it is very creepy
Pretty cool finding keep it up with vids ;)
so sad this didn't make it in the final version because the devs didn't have enough time :/ but really interestig content.
let's do something bigger let's raise money to buy the entire EA
Guess i'm long overdue for a replay of NFSU-NFSC.
Always wonder why race map before entering race was not matching the real race. Wow there is actually hundreds miles of roads are cutted off
Awesome tracks, big thanks!
Great video, Keep it up!
you think there is a way, to capture a full city as a 3D model by some riping program method? i ask, because it would be neat to see the olympic city apear as mod in certain games...
Someone will do it, it will take time though
2:54 And this is the track I really want drive on it in the next need for speed game.
came here for the map stuff, stayed for the music
indeed, Distance has a banger OST
Get them to work in the final game, cap!!
It means that the EA wants to make FreeRoam in Underground1 but its not released
In my opinion few of Unfinished road was replaced with T junction
Nostalgic
Olympic city really colourful and has various environment
If only they make it has free roam maybe it will be better than Bayview, Palmont, or even Rockport
In the next video, *379Felipe* suddenly finds a ghost town from GTA III in NFS Underground 1 with the help of the Debag Camera. :D
P.S.: Sorry for my bad English... . 😩😔
the god of nfs back
Can't wait to drive that plane
Trivial indeed, aren't NFS were having many west coast cities more than east ones?
5:17-5:19 hmmmm, nice puzzle
Please make similar video but for NFSU2 if you can. Thank you!
So this is the airplane that flights during the firsts laps of the races 3:13
Need for speed underground was going to have free mode
NFS Underground Open World!
Check drags and drift maps
Хотели наверно ещё в первой части сделать открытый город, но что-то пошло не так.
So good dnb 🤤
someone didn't install Counter Strike Source...
looks creepy. remind me mario 64 traumas.
can I please have the MAX file, so I can covnertit to unity and release freeroam demo with my car physics?
I dont think it is possible to export the map from the game
Distance music, LOL
3:11 airplane of nfsu2
Y is this so scary ???
oh wow
Missing texture from garrys mod...Install cs sourse content!
Can you try to port this to final game?)
I NEED NFS THE RUN! lol
"blackbox St"
Open World?
Theory: *rushed*
Nah I'm just joking
Ea didn't did this back then. let's hope in the future too
Felipe, did you have this running on ps2? Or pc? I am wondering can i do this on pc yes or no?
On emulator pcsx2
@@379Felipe I see. How did u get the iso? I found a demo in jampack winter 2003, I was planning on modifying the original nfsu iso with the demo one since I can't find a proper demo iso
@@379Felipe Felipe, do you have discord or maybe telegram?
@@379Felipehey bro, I want to ask u did you explore the drag maps in free cam? Also the map that was ment to be is actually visible, you know the dark blue map witl the lighter blue roads, that's the actually map? I think 🤔
Like I mean what I remember from playing the game as a kid. The drag tracks are different frome the race tracks, (some) and I think I will see this in the demo with free cam in the drag races, you showed only free cam in the race track map?
(EDIT: I was just taking track maps and making a complete road map im the main game, and circuit and sprint races are mostly on the same roads, and drag races seem to have a different map, you know the the bus station there is a drag race located, I think that drag races were made on a different idea of Olympic city, and a different dragrace show this, its the same map but slightly different, u need to look 4 the details.)
NfsU1.exe :o
666 likes lmao
cringe misty roads brr