Thank you so much for the history lesson. I used to scratch at the turn of the millennium, back when the internet was just getting legs but still not sufficient to educate me on this. As for your analysis, I think I'd posit two more reasons. 1 The white noise makes the speed and acceleration of the scratch really satisfying and easy to hear at all parts of the sample. So we hear and enjoy the scratch better. 2 it's never out of tune. It can go anywhere on a record. I think you touched on its ubiquity making it a good staple by which we can judge the scratch, but also things with which we are familiar have an unfair advantage over other things when it comes to our preference. We like what we know so it is a positive feedback loop.
Insightful. You managed to put a lot of useful information in a relatively small amount of time, without rushing it. I'll definitely have to check out your other video's. This stuff is really fresh! 👍
The production value on your channel on what is somewhat a niche topic, is incredible. Mad respect. You've earned a subscriber. We need people like you for the culture.
I love videos where I'm not even particularly interested in the topic but it's so well-done and insightful and researched that it's fascinating and enjoyable.
Great video! I Great up in SF back when q- bert was around and this sample is impeded deep into my brain. Took a genius like you to break this all down!
When I started scratching I immediately started using the AHhhh sound because it was easy to hear what I was doing and not doing. Its true that its almost like reference tone
This clip found it’s way to my algorithm…albeit 3 yrs later but, better late than never 👍🏾. Excellent analysis…well thought out. As someone who was in the culture prior to this phenomenon, I will add that part of the initial mystique of that sound was that many inside the culture initially doubted if that was authentic scratching on Rockit…nobody had ever heard such clean and advanced technique (by the standards of the time)…a lot of people swore that it was synthesized sounds…until that Grammy’s performance…once DJ’s saw that it was real, that sound and technique immediately became the standard measure of skill. Improving on DSt.’s original pattern was a flex…which is why so many records of the mid 80’s featured DJ’s using that sound…it was a means of proving turntable virtuosity.
Thanks for the insight! Makes a lot of sense. Its hard for someone luke me who wasnt really there to understand things in such a way. Thanks for sharing
Early 80s,Double D and Steinski,Lesson 1 had every clichéd DJ soundbite on the planet,between Lesson 1-4,probably covered them all, including the "this stuff is really fresh"sample,they were also known as the payback mixes,the first one,Lesson 1 even featured humphrey boggart,a scene from the film casablanca with him saying "you played it for Harry,play it for me",Double D and Steinski were actually 2 young German DJs from Europe hanging around New York in the early 80s,but D and Steinski were big on sampling back in the day, Also,Hashim,al naafysh the soul"its time"is just as famous
Cheers man. Think I'm gonna take a break and do something a little more manageable though haha. Some kind of tutorial or something... I got a few more ideas for these vid essay type vids though.
I havent read the Dave Tompkins book but the scan you used was enlightening... It was Bill Laswells' Manager Trilling that repeated the term into a vocoder, but the record exec he was imitating with the famous phrase, was Bruce Lundvall, ex-CEO of the Blue Note Label ?! And imitating Lundvall, that's where the magic came from ? Fantastic, erm, stuff. Cheers fella.
I think he was also boss of Elektra Records in the '80s when Blue Note was effectively defunct. (He revived it later). Rumour has it that when he first heard Norah Jones' 3-track demo which included two cover versions of jazz standards he said "This stuff is realllllly fresh".
As much as I like scratches of "Ah" and "Fresh", my favourite bit of the original sample is the "Reeeeaallllly". It sounds like a proper robot from the future.
Nice vid, thanks for putting it together. Because both sounds are noisy (e.g. there's no harmonic content in the AHHH and very little in the FRESH) they don't need to worry about being in the key of the song you're scratching over. E.g. If it was instead a single piano note being scratched, it'd sound terrible over music that isn't in that same key. Generally popular scratch samples don't have clear musical harmonics.
I remember spending ages trying to find out what this was in 1986 before the days of the internet. Then Ed 'Jack N Chill' Stratton did a brilliant remix of "Showing Out" by Mel & Kim using both scratches to brilliant excess. I managed to track it down around 1991 finally. My first band name was ADSR in '87. :Great Stuff.
Yup everything was very linear as we were limited by affordable tech . I had access to a Yamaha DX-100 and a TR505 drum machine and that was it . Quite limiting :)
One of the top most scratched record samples of all time: It’s been sampled in songs such as: ----------------------- Thrift Shop by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz (2012) -------------------------- Paid in Full by Eric B. & Rakim (1987) ----------- Right Here by Justin Bieber feat. Drake (2012) -------- Rockit by Herbie Hancock (1983) ---------- So Far... by Eminem (2013) ---------- Finally Moving by Pretty Lights (2006) ----------- Yo Perreo Sola by Bad Bunny and Nesi (2020) ----------- Rhythm Rock Rapp by Daniel Sofer feat. The Unknown DJ and Dr. Dre (1984) ----------- Lamborghini by Trenchcoat (1987) ----------- P.S.K. - What Does It Mean? by Schoolly D (1985) ----------- I'm a Slave 4 U by Britney Spears (2001) ------------ Hey Young World by Slick Rick (1988) ------------- Face the Music by Crazy Town (1999) ------------- Cure for the Itch by Linkin Park (2000) -------------- Supersonic by J.J Fad (1987) -------------- Boyz-N-The-Hood by Eazy-E (1987) -------------- Hey Ladies by Beastie Boys (1989) -------------- U Can't Touch This (KMel Mix) by MC Hammer (1990) -------------- Stardust Speedway (Present) by Naofumi Hataya (1993) --------------- Posse in Effect by Beastie Boys (1986) ------------ Something 2 Dance 2 by N.W.A (1988) --------------- ‘Scrappy’s Rap’ from ‘Scooby Doo & The Ghoul School’ (1988) ---------------- And literally so many more!
Great video. Will show this to my students. We should also remember that because of the ‘white noise’ within the samples they cut through a mix a lot more clearly. Thanks again.
Excellent stuff man 👌🏼 still my 2 favourite samples to scratch with along with "all that scratching is making me itch" (has been since Qbert's Summit routine)
Actually producer Michael Beinhorn is the creator of the fresh sound. He was Freddy's producer for change the beat. Basically Beinhorn revolutionized sound design in hip hop and then once again in rock with Soundgarden, Marilyn Manson, Korn etc. He is killer in the sound design department
@@BeatsBeneath you can check my other channel "Supaphonik". I've been qsu valedictorian 2016, there is a serie "supavocab" with a tone of combos to work on. Keep up the good work.
I own roland vocoder for a relativelly long time (way back from the 90's) but never though of using a white noise as a carrier, and never realized that is actually source of a countless hiphop/electrofunk tunes, and base for a classic scratch sound. Dumb.
@@BeatsBeneath Yeah not having "knowhow" was a thing back then. Producers on local studios was mostly selfish and guardkept some things. People nowadays don't realize how valuable is internet and yt channels including yours. in late 80's/early 90's when I was young, and full of will, curiosity, and energy, only way to learn things was somehow connect to similar interests people (and that was hard without social networks and with interest for subculture/alternative and not pop)..., through the music magazines, and they surely haven't "bother" with this kind of stuff, mostly usual self praising, social commentary and anecdotes unrelated to detailed music production. Only way to somehow learn what people use was listening to d.j. anouncements on a radio show late night, specialized tv shows, and reading booklets on some records and cd's. It ended up with lot's of savings from various manual part time jobs into dumb things they dump on me on music shops, like Yamaha RX5, Akai XR10, thinking it would make me a electro funk producer:) Haven't got a clue about compression, or mastering :) Thanks!
@@BeatsBeneath I was showing someone how flexible it was! 😂 This was when I was a teenager and didn’t know any better. He just burst out laughing. I bought it from Fat City Records in Manchester for a couple of quid. I still have the sleeve and every time I come across it I’m filled with regret! 😂
Why don't you state - at any point - the name of the track you've based your entire vid on? (Une Sale Histoire by Fab Five Freddy for anyone who's wondering, last few seconds: th-cam.com/video/ij-K629DFtg/w-d-xo.html )
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Great job very interesting still got the original 12 on my wall!
Ha awesome, I had to buy the repress but I'm glad I've added it to my collection
Together with the other sleeves in the Celluloid series creating the big picture.
I liked this a lot. AHHH FRESH is the Amen break of the scratch community.
Awesome thanks man! It certainly is
Bill Laswell also co-composed, produced, and played bass on Rockit. He's an under-appreciated musical force.
Thank you so much for the history lesson. I used to scratch at the turn of the millennium, back when the internet was just getting legs but still not sufficient to educate me on this. As for your analysis, I think I'd posit two more reasons. 1 The white noise makes the speed and acceleration of the scratch really satisfying and easy to hear at all parts of the sample. So we hear and enjoy the scratch better. 2 it's never out of tune. It can go anywhere on a record.
I think you touched on its ubiquity making it a good staple by which we can judge the scratch, but also things with which we are familiar have an unfair advantage over other things when it comes to our preference. We like what we know so it is a positive feedback loop.
0:01 - NIN - Sin (Short) sampled the "stuff" phrase in Change The Beat.
Insightful. You managed to put a lot of useful information in a relatively small amount of time, without rushing it. I'll definitely have to check out your other video's. This stuff is really fresh! 👍
The production value on your channel on what is somewhat a niche topic, is incredible. Mad respect. You've earned a subscriber. We need people like you for the culture.
Ha thanks! I do tend to over cook stuff somewhat haha
I love videos where I'm not even particularly interested in the topic but it's so well-done and insightful and researched that it's fascinating and enjoyable.
Thanks for the lovely comment Matt! That vid took me so long, so that means a lot 😌🙂🙂
Excellent video..research,content, presentation, and quality. Albeit not as versatile as other "traditional samples" my favorite it still "Ah yeah".
I don't know a dime or nickel about scratching or music.
But this video was put together hella well. The intro had me hooked
Ahh thanks man! I put a lot of effort into this one 😃
Man, awesome work! Thanks
Great video! I Great up in SF back when q- bert was around and this sample is impeded deep into my brain. Took a genius like you to break this all down!
When I started scratching I immediately started using the AHhhh sound because it was easy to hear what I was doing and not doing. Its true that its almost like reference tone
Was really interested to hear the history of the samples we all use. Great Job. Dj Chris2Cool South Africa.
Thanks dude. Glad you enjoyed
South africa 🇿🇦🤘
fabFiveFreddy said in an interview, available online, that he was the voice behind “ahh this stuff is really fresh”
Nice to see how far youve come since 1000 subs on this vid...
This was really interesting, that sample is synonymous with Hip Hop. Great vid, liked subbed.
One of the most well done videos I've ever seen
Heh you're too kind
This clip found it’s way to my algorithm…albeit 3 yrs later but, better late than never 👍🏾. Excellent analysis…well thought out. As someone who was in the culture prior to this phenomenon, I will add that part of the initial mystique of that sound was that many inside the culture initially doubted if that was authentic scratching on Rockit…nobody had ever heard such clean and advanced technique (by the standards of the time)…a lot of people swore that it was synthesized sounds…until that Grammy’s performance…once DJ’s saw that it was real, that sound and technique immediately became the standard measure of skill. Improving on DSt.’s original pattern was a flex…which is why so many records of the mid 80’s featured DJ’s using that sound…it was a means of proving turntable virtuosity.
Thanks for the insight! Makes a lot of sense. Its hard for someone luke me who wasnt really there to understand things in such a way. Thanks for sharing
Early 80s,Double D and Steinski,Lesson 1 had every clichéd DJ soundbite on the planet,between Lesson 1-4,probably covered them all, including the "this stuff is really fresh"sample,they were also known as the payback mixes,the first one,Lesson 1 even featured humphrey boggart,a scene from the film casablanca with him saying "you played it for Harry,play it for me",Double D and Steinski were actually 2 young German DJs from Europe hanging around New York in the early 80s,but D and Steinski were big on sampling back in the day,
Also,Hashim,al naafysh the soul"its time"is just as famous
Tha ks for that. I've always wondered how the original was done. Always knew it was a vocoder, but never knew what the carrier was. Brilliant.
All this time, I always thought that sample would come from a soft drink commercial from back in the late 70's, which was the time when I was born.😁
Amazing video! Great!
That was great! your videos keep getting better and better! Looking forward to the next.
Cheers man. Think I'm gonna take a break and do something a little more manageable though haha. Some kind of tutorial or something... I got a few more ideas for these vid essay type vids though.
I havent read the Dave Tompkins book but the scan you used was enlightening...
It was Bill Laswells' Manager Trilling that repeated the term into a vocoder, but the record exec he was imitating with the famous phrase, was Bruce Lundvall, ex-CEO of the Blue Note Label ?!
And imitating Lundvall, that's where the magic came from ? Fantastic, erm, stuff. Cheers fella.
Great knowledge! Glad you enjoyed the video
I think he was also boss of Elektra Records in the '80s when Blue Note was effectively defunct. (He revived it later). Rumour has it that when he first heard Norah Jones' 3-track demo which included two cover versions of jazz standards he said "This stuff is realllllly fresh".
This is made so well! thank you 🙏
Thank you!
Herbie also added his own Sennheiser Vocoder as vocals when producing Rockit!
Good knowledge
Yea buddy! This was a great look at the history of the two most needle abused sounds in world. Loved it.
Ah thanks. Need to do another video essay type thing like this one
As much as I like scratches of "Ah" and "Fresh", my favourite bit of the original sample is the "Reeeeaallllly". It sounds like a proper robot from the future.
Really dope! Well done man.
this is soo fire
had synth class yday and i was like, yeah! scratching is basically just ADSR!
Really really good Si! Thanks for the history lesson!
Nice vid, thanks for putting it together. Because both sounds are noisy (e.g. there's no harmonic content in the AHHH and very little in the FRESH) they don't need to worry about being in the key of the song you're scratching over. E.g. If it was instead a single piano note being scratched, it'd sound terrible over music that isn't in that same key. Generally popular scratch samples don't have clear musical harmonics.
True that, I wonder why we haven't taken more sounds like that and processed them in the same way though
Great content mate. Very interesting stuff.
Brilliant! This sound is so synonymous with Hip Hop. Long may it remain king! Phat video sir💯
Big up and thanks, happy New Year
This was cool to learn about I definitely wanted to know where those sounds came from and why djs started using it so thanks a lot!!
That was great. Definitely earned a like subscribe and comment.
I remember spending ages trying to find out what this was in 1986 before the days of the internet. Then Ed 'Jack N Chill' Stratton did a brilliant remix of "Showing Out" by Mel & Kim using both scratches to brilliant excess. I managed to track it down around 1991 finally. My first band name was ADSR in '87. :Great Stuff.
Heh cool man, it's funny as someone who was born in 1985, I missed all this stuff first time around and a lot of the music sounds pretty dated now
Yup everything was very linear as we were limited by affordable tech . I had access to a Yamaha DX-100 and a TR505 drum machine and that was it . Quite limiting :)
One of the top most scratched record samples of all time: It’s been sampled in songs such as:
-----------------------
Thrift Shop
by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis feat. Wanz (2012)
--------------------------
Paid in Full
by Eric B. & Rakim (1987)
-----------
Right Here
by Justin Bieber feat. Drake (2012)
--------
Rockit
by Herbie Hancock (1983)
----------
So Far...
by Eminem (2013)
----------
Finally Moving
by Pretty Lights (2006)
-----------
Yo Perreo Sola
by Bad Bunny and Nesi (2020)
-----------
Rhythm Rock Rapp
by Daniel Sofer feat. The Unknown DJ and Dr. Dre (1984)
-----------
Lamborghini
by Trenchcoat (1987)
-----------
P.S.K. - What Does It Mean?
by Schoolly D (1985)
-----------
I'm a Slave 4 U
by Britney Spears (2001)
------------
Hey Young World
by Slick Rick (1988)
-------------
Face the Music
by Crazy Town (1999)
-------------
Cure for the Itch
by Linkin Park (2000)
--------------
Supersonic by J.J Fad (1987)
--------------
Boyz-N-The-Hood
by Eazy-E (1987)
--------------
Hey Ladies
by Beastie Boys (1989)
--------------
U Can't Touch This (KMel Mix)
by MC Hammer (1990)
--------------
Stardust Speedway (Present)
by Naofumi Hataya (1993)
---------------
Posse in Effect
by Beastie Boys (1986)
------------
Something 2 Dance 2
by N.W.A (1988)
---------------
‘Scrappy’s Rap’ from ‘Scooby Doo & The Ghoul School’ (1988)
----------------
And literally so many more!
This video is worth a million views!! Thanks !
Bruh! Thanks for that 😊
Very well done! TY!
Merci merci!
This is fucking fascinating ... brilliant breakdown
Good Stuff Man 👍🏾
Super Topic! Really cool job mate 🔥🔥🔥
Cheers dude!
I have been scratching with these sounds for over 25 years and never knew where the original came from!
Fab five freddy change the beat.
That was really interesting. Just subscribed so will be checking out your other vids.
Awesome, thank you! I'm still finding my direction on this platform, but I'm managing to stay pretty consistent so far! Thanks for watching.
Great video. Will show this to my students. We should also remember that because of the ‘white noise’ within the samples they cut through a mix a lot more clearly. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing! That's awesome. What subject are you teaching them?
Si Hargreaves music tech and music practice UAL. We do a week on 80s hop hop.
Great video! Thanks for the history lesson!
Who was the guy in the intro dj’ing, if you can include a link to the video that would be great?
Just found your channel, shoutout to you my guy. Great videos ✅💎
Welcome aboard!
Dope video. 👏👏
Excellent stuff man 👌🏼 still my 2 favourite samples to scratch with along with "all that scratching is making me itch" (has been since Qbert's Summit routine)
That's dope dude. I haven't had a record with "all that scratching..." on the tables for a while now.
fantastic video!!!!!!!
You didn’t say the first track where “ahh” was scratched tho…Wasn’t MixMaster on a UTFO’s single of 1984? Roxanne Roxanne I believe…
Actually producer Michael Beinhorn is the creator of the fresh sound. He was Freddy's producer for change the beat. Basically Beinhorn revolutionized sound design in hip hop and then once again in rock with Soundgarden, Marilyn Manson, Korn etc. He is killer in the sound design department
Interesting. Wasn't what my research told me but what do I know haha. Where'd you find that out?
Just found your channel, great stuff man. Subscribed 👍🏼
Nice one! Thanks for watching
Great video. Thank you for this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video bro! Respect
Thank you!
Good job love your work!!! Keep on this Vid. is really good. Respect
Big up
Excellent video. Looks wicked and really informative
Cheers Dave. This the one I told you about ha
Thanks for the video 👍
No worries man 😁
Because creativity in samples is rare
Yeah its hard to find good ones. It does sound good though dunnit
You got yourself a new sub! Great video!
Cheers!
Awesome. 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
DOPE VIDEO
This stuff is really Freshhhh!
yeah boii
Good effort .enjoyed that
Nice one
Anyone know the name of the scratch sample used in Return of the mack?
Trying to think what the scratching in Return of the Mack even sounds like...
thank you!!! ❤️
Thanks for watching!
Dope! 🙌🙏
🙌
Good Job!👍
Thank you!!!
It's kinda the Wilhelm Scream of scratching.
Good video, i have been scratching fresh for 35 years
Right on
dope video!!! thank you!
Glad you liked it! ☺☺
Cause it’s the cornerstone of hip hop and it’s homage
Nice
Brutal!!!!
good job
Thanks
Really great!
Cheers man!
@@BeatsBeneath you can check my other channel "Supaphonik". I've been qsu valedictorian 2016, there is a serie "supavocab" with a tone of combos to work on. Keep up the good work.
great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Just checked, the Roland SVC350 vocoder sells for £1500. Ahhh this stuff is really expensive!
Damn, wish I'd bought more hardware before all these silly prices... Wait, was there even a "before these silly prices".
@@BeatsBeneath Ha ha that's fresh! Top vid btw
It's time ?
Popularized by Mixmaster Ice from UTFO......gotta teach truth.
DST!
Cause an Ahhh is the best practice sound everrrrrr
haha, not fresh?
@@BeatsBeneath
Sometimes lol
good one :)
Thanks 😃
Fresh
I own roland vocoder for a relativelly long time (way back from the 90's) but never though of using a white noise as a carrier, and never realized that is actually source of a countless hiphop/electrofunk tunes, and base for a classic scratch sound. Dumb.
Heh I dunno if that's dumb. Think you're being hard on yourself!
@@BeatsBeneath Yeah not having "knowhow" was a thing back then. Producers on local studios was mostly selfish and guardkept some things. People nowadays don't realize how valuable is internet and yt channels including yours. in late 80's/early 90's when I was young, and full of will, curiosity, and energy, only way to learn things was somehow connect to similar interests people (and that was hard without social networks and with interest for subculture/alternative and not pop)..., through the music magazines, and they surely haven't "bother" with this kind of stuff, mostly usual self praising, social commentary and anecdotes unrelated to detailed music production. Only way to somehow learn what people use was listening to d.j. anouncements on a radio show late night, specialized tv shows, and reading booklets on some records and cd's. It ended up with lot's of savings from various manual part time jobs into dumb things they dump on me on music shops, like Yamaha RX5, Akai XR10, thinking it would make me a electro funk producer:) Haven't got a clue about compression, or mastering :) Thanks!
Michael Beinhorn
Ahhh, I used to have the original on vinyl and broke it! Gutted.
gah! How'd you 'break' it??
@@BeatsBeneath I was showing someone how flexible it was! 😂 This was when I was a teenager and didn’t know any better. He just burst out laughing. I bought it from Fat City Records in Manchester for a couple of quid. I still have the sleeve and every time I come across it I’m filled with regret! 😂
fresh
Cheers!
Why don't you state - at any point - the name of the track you've based your entire vid on? (Une Sale Histoire by Fab Five Freddy for anyone who's wondering, last few seconds: th-cam.com/video/ij-K629DFtg/w-d-xo.html )
I mention it in the "history" part of the video 🙄In English it's called "Change the Beat - Beside"
How about we don't over analyze it and just say the samples are used by everyone because they sound dope.
Awesome video! Thank you!!
Glad you liked it!