Spot Trooper makes a great point, those rings are definitely way larger than the hooks on the bottom would be. Not to mention the fact that those look like a fantasized version of a dane axe and don’t have nor need hooks
In Russia it was firing trough wedding ring and into the edge of a dagger to split the arrow so it woudn't kill the person holding both. I don't think it is such a big problem if the hole is big enough for an arrow to go trough.
Things from the myth/legend you forgot to mention: Odysseus had a 'special' longbow only he could string, and he was stronger than any other man in his kingdom. His wife obviously knew this, and therefore knew only her husband would be able to pull off this feat.
@@StoneTitan i've had to translate the text for school, and i don't think the distance between the axes was mentioned. I could be wrong though, it was over a year ago.
@@jsjwhwh makes sense, I didn't expect a distance mentioned but hoped it were, If for instance the distance was greater than the length of the arrow that would be interesting.
Mythbusters crew: wants to test a ancient myth and prove if it is possible Also mythbusters crew: Uses a modern bow and avoids the archer’s paradox like a boss 😎
Mythbusters has always done things to make something happen, the reason they use the current set up is mostly because it is reliable. Testing it with ancient bows and people isn't, because there is a slim possibility that it could work if every condition is correct like with a compound bow and machine. If a human can replicate that its confirmed
Me: Reads the word "possible" in the comment I'm replying on Mythbusters Jr. group: Says "plausible" at the exact say time I read the word "possible" Me: *Mind blown*
they took mythbusters and replaced one of the co-hosts with kids... I don't get it, the point was that jamie and adam's personalities clashed and that they had different perspectives and ways to tackle the myth.
Adam's "WHAT?!" and reaction at 3:27 is one of the best from him i've ever seen. Like, legitimately confused, excited, terrified, and happy at the same time. Love it.
I know right. However, you could argue that the rings they had to traverse were not metal and if I recall correctly, often times the axes because they weren't metal moved.
Idk but theyve said in the vid that they chose not to use metal because it could cause junkiness if the shot was wrong. But if you rewatch the vid it looks clean even though the arrow sometimes hit the ring that just cause it to bouncs and continue
Love how these kids have an opportunity to peruse science. I remember loving science in middle school because of one teacher, but with no resources, guidance, or support to follow through with that love killed my chances of ever pursuing science any further. So when I see these kids I’m happy that they will get a chance to make science cool for the next generation.
And a recurve bow. Though they weren't using metal rings, if you slow the footage down, their arrow bounces off the edges of the rings quite a bit. Were they metal it probably would have deflected enough to fail. Still impressive, and he pulled it off in 1 shot each so all it would have taken was a few tries to dial in his aim probably, though it would have destroyed quite a few arrows.
@@diegodevars4618 they have 2 channels. The main one is vfx but their second channel is just a vlog channel. They did the arrow thing on the vlog one. They also don't really do trick shots even on the main channel. Normally more action/videgame vfx shorts
How would moving all the rings be easier? Lining those up must be a nightmare. Moving the bow is FAR easier than trying to change the direction of ALL those rings' alignment.
@@spamhere1123 yea. Why would you move 12 rings that are lined up already. That's a very strange suggestion. Moving the target is also not the main issue. Besides, that's not the myth. The idea is whether or not it's possible for someone to do this. And judging by that high speed, even with near perfect relocation, they still barely pulled off a miracle shot
spamhere1123 lasers, boards, doweling or a common base platform would have made that super easy since there are common touchable alignment points. The reason the bow was hard to align was because it doesn’t have anything that perfectly aligns with the shot except the arrows flight path which is hard to predict and impossible to hold still and use for alignment.
See I think it just shows how fucking awesome Adam Savage is because you know hes trying to pass on everything he can to these kids because hes good people like that
So many people comment that Corridor Digital did this last year. However, there are a few things to note: 1. Corridor had larger holes which were not metal. If they were, even a slight touch of the arrow (yes, the arrow touched the sides) would've resulted in a failure. 2. Odysseus' bow was the strongest bow ever made (according to the myth) and only he could draw it. A weak bow has naturally a greater projectile drop. 3. „Shooting though axe heads“ is a vague term. Some people cut holes into the axe heads, some add rings. But it is very likely that the holes the shafts are attached to are meant here, and shooting through multiple of those is nearly impossible.
I feel like high bow strength would actually make it harder. Less bow drop, but higher strength bow would mean the arrow flexes way more, making it more likely to hit the sides.
@@aaronyoung9922 if you look at the slowed down footage on the second shot you see that basically the only thing touching the axes is like the back "feathers" for a split second
I always interpreted the contest description as the hole in the head that the helve fits into, not a ring on the axe head nor a hole cut into the head of the axe. That would make it even more of an impossible task in that hole would be through a solid metal head with virtually no play, and the arrow would have to be launched not only precisely but with enough force to ensure that the speed of the arrow keeps it on as straight a course for as long as possible.
Something to keep in mind is that a "Bow-Master" would have likely had thousands of hours of practice and peer review under their belt, or to look at it in another way, today many of us drive cars, we drive them in the rain, snow, wind, we drive them in the day and at night and on roads who's condition sometimes begs the question if they deserve to be called roads and on occasions at speeds that are far far over the rated limits of the roads we drive on, and this is a skill today that we are all adept at and some we can truly say are masters of. In say 4 thousand years when all cars have been AI driven for at least a thousand years the thought that a human of thousands of years ago could drive could very well be the topic of some distant spin-off of this show where they discuss how plausible it could be that primitive humans could do such a task while they themselves are dismissive of the tools of today that we have learned to master.
Arrows flex in flight. It is the flexing of the arrow that is causing it to hit the rings. Compound bows shooting modern arrows can have less flex in them. We now have ratings for the amount of flex an arrow has. They probably chose the stiffest arrow available to shoot in that compound bow.
@@BRyeEUC Most likely, and I suspect this is something that would have been known about back then as well, it could well be likely that the rings were set up in such a way that his bow in his hand with his arrows would have been in tune with the path through them. That is something I could see a bow master doing and talking about with his wife. Keep in mind this is around the time were we had people able to calculate the diameter of the earth with a fair degree of accuracy by using 2 holes in the ground.
@@BRyeEUC Arrows flexing in flight was known to the Greeks. They also knew that the stronger the bow you used to more rigid the arrow had to be to avoid it just folding in on itself. Thus Odysseus' Bow being very strong would have been accompanied by stiff arrows made from a stronger piece of wood. Again as you said stiffer arrows have less flex and a straighter flight path.
@@jakistam1000 The funny thing about documentation is that it tends to have a half life. Now for instance if you want an exercise go and download a driver for a voodoo 2 video card, yes you can still source that ten year old driver, but the number of sources out there for it now has dwindled to almost nothing, and most of them are suspect. Add to that any documentation done today and in yesteryear's will have a bias, look at say for instance instructional videos from the 50's on how to drive, while much of what you see there is applicable there is much that has changed, and the two things to keep in mind is today we have the vantage point to detect those subtle changes, in a thousand years they may well say "a car is a car, and without AI I don't think they could go over 20 kmph" And they may base that on early car speeds and what ever survived on the topic to that age and was then translation mangled for them to read, watch and listen. Add to that, a huge amount of our driving instruction is still word of mouth, yes I can download a pdf to find the laws on driving in any state/country in the world, but the actual art of driving, by and large that is a skill that is passed on, teacher to student, via word of mouth while in hands on instruction. People as a rule never document those things that "everyone knows"
In the epic, the bow was nigh-impossible to string. Therefore it's a very stiff bow. Thus a very POWERFUL bow for a powerful man. That would make the arc of the arrow launched from it flatter in that range. Then the question on the arrows: how much can they flex before hitting the rings?
@John Smith The stronger the bow the more it should increase the paradox and even going with stiffer arrows will only result in the identical flight as a weaker bow and flimsier arrows. The only way to reduce the paradox would be by stiffer arrows under the same draw weight.
Someone recently made a "repeating longbow" that would consistently knock the arrow in the same way every time and was technically possible to make with the technology of the time, so yes, plausible is a reasonable conclusion.
I like how people are whining about how they used a machine to test the "Impossible" shot which probably never happened in the first place. How dare they. I'm also curious which of the 16 year olds people were expecting to personally do this.
You also have to understand that with a longbow or recurve bow, there is what is known as the “archer’s paradox”. The arrow will bend back and forth considerably between the bow and the target making this shot impossible with the technology during Odysseus’ time.
As a Classical scholar, I can tell you not only did Odysseus shoot the arrow from a long bow made from Ram's Horn, he shot it free hand & shot through the hole that the handle shaft went through NOT multiple custom manufactured axe heads. So although this is a mythical shot, your set up was totally incorrect. You have neither proved not busted a myth!
@@AnAveragePanini checked rn, it did touch the rings on multiple occasions, just not as hard as the other guy's arrow. Who knows, how it could behave in different conditions.Their result would've been much more solid with metal rings, without any complaints. Adam's crew invited that old guy, and i have seen him hit a ridiculously small and moving target on a SmarterEveryDay video. He's actually crazy with a bow and even he has failed.
Actually, no they didn't. They cheated in about a dozen different ways, the least of which being the material was foam crap and the apertures they were firing through were massive compared to what they SHOULD be for this challenge. Have you ever even seen the original scene from the movie or read the Odyssey? They didn't even get close.
@@R3Kyt Well i'm a mechanical engineer, and this thing is no where near problem solving. It's like watching elementary students doing chemistry experiments like it's cooking and tell people what they do is science.
Mythbuster's: Saying they needed a compound bow and a robot for this shot to be Plausible Niko From Corridor Crew With a regular bow and Himself: "Are You Challenging ME?"
I've seen a YT video a while back ago where a bunch of archers made this shot, there was even a noobie among them that made the shot too. This had been replicated and was perfectly executed in real life without machinery long before this episode came out.
That shot was a Golgo 13 level near impossible shot. He was known to hit a terrorist through the windshield of a commercial jet from 2km away with only 1 shot.
@@SavageGreywolf True, that's why even at this super short range this arrow shot was STILL extremely hard. As for hitting something with a sniper rifle 2km away, the bullet takes a few seconds to even get there. Besides accounting for winds messing with bullet trajectory, he also had to account for punching through the strong airplane windshield glass and still landing the shot in between the terrorist's eyes.
The problem with this is that Odusseus' bow would've been a long bow style. Long bow arrows are very different from compound bow's in the fact that they are much more flexible in the spine and actually wiggle as they fly. Look up "the archers paradox"
They didn't use metal rings which would have drastically changed the shot, if you watch the corridor video it does bounce of the "axes" if there where metal it wouldn't have worked like that so no they cheaped out also. The shot in the myth also had people holding the axes, again corridor didn't truly make the shot themselves.
@@zachdillenger5468 went back re watched he taps the middle axe with the arrow flex and the feathers hit the last axe still think it would have been on target metal or not
This is only amazing if you are not familiar with the performance of modern compound bows and how accurate and consistent a decent archer can shoot them.
Holy shit, they actually tested the arrow myth. Last Science Channel MythBusters clip I watched was titled “starting a fire using duct tape” but was about Jamie spear fishing with a stick. Alright Science Channel, I see you.
I am ok with plausible. But I do think at 30 yds which was technically the given distance some odd years ago, lol. It is easily possible for any man or woman with a 30 lbs recurve, long bow, or compound bow. It is not hard to shoot straight, it is hard when you try to shoot accurately or consistently and have that mindset. So in other words this was not a hard shot, but more of a test of time for humans ability to evolve and conquer, more or less. Am still very thankful for mythbusters and all the science planning and engineering behind the scenes. It really is revolutionary for us all. Thanks guys 👍🏻👍🏻
Finding Homeric stories to be based on reality, why would one call this a mythological shot? It was an amazing feat and you proved just how amazing it truly was.
that's what i was thinking, most people who do this challenge either put it on the blade or between them lol. I don't know why no one ever catches this when they are setting it up
There is a big flaw with the shooting technique. Bows don't shoot straight arrows, instead the arrows wobble when released due to the shear strain caused by the rim of the bow. So, it probably will hit the rings. This is my first mythbusters video and I don't know how much more inaccuracies are actually there. edit: Instead of wasting time like this, they could build some mathematical approximations to consider if it is possible
Not to mention that traditional long bows were made to achieve much higher poundage than a simple compound bow so much so that archers were trained since they were as young as six to fire them reliably
So I want to point somethings out, 1: Odysseus had a multi-hundred pound(like over 200lbs) recurve bow, not a longbow, this does change a lot of the factors, due to the fact that an average Welsh(British) Longbow was about 100lbs in weight, and by increasing the power of a bow, increases the amount of speed and force that arrow can produce, and can create a long flat fight path before it started to curve downwards. 2: They are by far not the first people to try to do this challenge(of their age range? Probably) this is actually a very common challenge to attempt throughout history, and it has been done. The reason why this shot is said to be impossible is because of the weight of the bow, as literally, no one should be able to draw a 200+lb bow and shoot accurately enough to thread an arrow through ringed Axe Heads. But this is by no means impossible
This is not correct- by using a modern compound bow, the arrow flexes a lot less because of its higher speed. With a traditional bow this would be impossible, not plausible at all.
Well according historians about the myth the archer was stronger than most people and he made a unique bow designed for only him to use. It may not be compound bow, but it could of been powerful as one from the custom longbow. Thus, it is possible for the individual to do so, but it is uncommon for that individual to have lot of strength. It's plausible to some to many no you have the right to claim it.
The flex of the arrow is not based on its speed through the air. It's based on the flexibility of the arrow and the strength of the bow pushing said arrow. A more rigid arrow pushed by a 40 lb recurve will barely flex at all even though it will travel at much lower speeds than a highly flexible arrow pushed by a 100 lb compound bow.
Devin Hernandez yes but if odysseus used that stiff of an arrow with a tradition bow like others of the time period the arrow would not be flexible enough to satisfy the archers paradox and fly “straight” as it were. Either way, I suppose it is important to remember that this is a myth where gods intervene with human action, strength, and decision making, so anything goes.
The Corrider Crew actually did this without a machine
Glad I wasnt the only one who realized that
yup! thats what I said too, haha
thank god i wasn't the only one to know
Was looking for this comment, and two guys did it in like one or two attempts.
That's exactly what i was thinking when they said "it's never been attempted"
The book is talking about the eye of the axe, which is hole the handle goes through. Not a round loop off the top.
Why isn't this comment more appreciated?
To be honest, the axes are basically just for show, it's just about the ring
Spot Trooper makes a great point, those rings are definitely way larger than the hooks on the bottom would be. Not to mention the fact that those look like a fantasized version of a dane axe and don’t have nor need hooks
In Russia it was firing trough wedding ring and into the edge of a dagger to split the arrow so it woudn't kill the person holding both. I don't think it is such a big problem if the hole is big enough for an arrow to go trough.
@Spot Trooper True, you get a point.
Things from the myth/legend you forgot to mention: Odysseus had a 'special' longbow only he could string, and he was stronger than any other man in his kingdom. His wife obviously knew this, and therefore knew only her husband would be able to pull off this feat.
Out of curiosity, did the myth mention anything about the distance between the axes?
Is there an estemation on how many people lived at Ithaca(sp?)
@@StoneTitan i've had to translate the text for school, and i don't think the distance between the axes was mentioned. I could be wrong though, it was over a year ago.
@@jsjwhwh
makes sense, I didn't expect a distance mentioned but hoped it were, If for instance the distance was greater than the length of the arrow that would be interesting.
@@StoneTitan i just looked up the text and it definately doesn't mention the distance
@@StoneTitan I can't find anything on either question.
I swear, Adam’s reactions have always been 100% candid and pure. He really stays on the show for the love of science.
Expectations rise every second, and chances of disappointment increase exponentially
^Truth
Mythbusters crew: wants to test a ancient myth and prove if it is possible
Also mythbusters crew: Uses a modern bow and avoids the archer’s paradox like a boss 😎
Mythbusters has always done things to make something happen, the reason they use the current set up is mostly because it is reliable. Testing it with ancient bows and people isn't, because there is a slim possibility that it could work if every condition is correct like with a compound bow and machine. If a human can replicate that its confirmed
Wdym Archer’s Paradox?
@@jolly3257 best explanation of the archer's paradox i know of th-cam.com/video/O7zewtuUM_0/w-d-xo.html
4:25
Me: Reads the word "possible" in the comment I'm replying on
Mythbusters Jr. group: Says "plausible" at the exact say time I read the word "possible"
Me: *Mind blown*
they took mythbusters and replaced one of the co-hosts with kids... I don't get it, the point was that jamie and adam's personalities clashed and that they had different perspectives and ways to tackle the myth.
The point is that they can milk some more money out of a well established and very popular series without having to pay for a real cast.
Kids' derivative show, for educational purposes mainly.
Jamie and Adam do not like each other and have stated that they would never work with each other again.
In my opinion this was probably done to get more money by including half naked women or girls..very sad to see the ideology of today's businessmen
@@Damdaarfahad what are you talking about
Adam's "WHAT?!" and reaction at 3:27 is one of the best from him i've ever seen. Like, legitimately confused, excited, terrified, and happy at the same time. Love it.
No record? Corridor Digital did it on camera a long while ago. And they didn't use machines.
I know right. However, you could argue that the rings they had to traverse were not metal and if I recall correctly, often times the axes because they weren't metal moved.
The shot was clean
Have them try again, but with metal axes
Idk but theyve said in the vid that they chose not to use metal because it could cause junkiness if the shot was wrong. But if you rewatch the vid it looks clean even though the arrow sometimes hit the ring that just cause it to bouncs and continue
Wedaw Cute agreed. They did it with out hitting the axes much at all
Whoever can string the old king's bow,
And shoot through twelve axes cleany,
Will become the new king, sit down at the throne
Penelope as his queen...
Screw this competition. 😠 We’ve been here for hours
Where is he?
Where is the man who can string this bo-o-ow?
@@sugarcrystal9390
None of us can string this....
We don't have the power...
Love how these kids have an opportunity to peruse science. I remember loving science in middle school because of one teacher, but with no resources, guidance, or support to follow through with that love killed my chances of ever pursuing science any further. So when I see these kids I’m happy that they will get a chance to make science cool for the next generation.
I loved shows like this when I was a kid. If I was still a kid today, I would be obsessed with this show.
It was actually done already by a group of TH-camrs called Corridor Crew xP
FoxyOwl Gaming lol I just commented something like this
I was just gunna say that
Took the words out of my mouth
Beat me to it
Yep, and they did it without machines and computers.
Corridor digital did it, free hand
David H I was about today it but yeah there is evidence of this happening by corridor
And a recurve bow. Though they weren't using metal rings, if you slow the footage down, their arrow bounces off the edges of the rings quite a bit. Were they metal it probably would have deflected enough to fail.
Still impressive, and he pulled it off in 1 shot each so all it would have taken was a few tries to dial in his aim probably, though it would have destroyed quite a few arrows.
Arent those guys the ones who use digital animation and SFX to do crazy stunts and trickshots?
@@diegodevars4618 they have 2 channels. The main one is vfx but their second channel is just a vlog channel. They did the arrow thing on the vlog one. They also don't really do trick shots even on the main channel. Normally more action/videgame vfx shorts
@@AnAveragePanini oh didnt know.... Thanks!
Odysseus would have had to compete with the archers paradox, which their compound bow heavily negates.
Don’t move the bow.... move the target and then the tunnel to where the bow wants to be.
To late, what's done is done
Yeah, I feel like that would have been WAY easier.
How would moving all the rings be easier? Lining those up must be a nightmare. Moving the bow is FAR easier than trying to change the direction of ALL those rings' alignment.
@@spamhere1123 yea. Why would you move 12 rings that are lined up already. That's a very strange suggestion. Moving the target is also not the main issue. Besides, that's not the myth. The idea is whether or not it's possible for someone to do this. And judging by that high speed, even with near perfect relocation, they still barely pulled off a miracle shot
spamhere1123 lasers, boards, doweling or a common base platform would have made that super easy since there are common touchable alignment points. The reason the bow was hard to align was because it doesn’t have anything that perfectly aligns with the shot except the arrows flight path which is hard to predict and impossible to hold still and use for alignment.
The kids make this horrible to watch.
So dumb. They do it because they don't have to pay kids as much as they pay adults.
@@lanceunderpants who cares about pay, they're cringy as hell.
@nikhil nair well someone has to supervise
Forreal
See I think it just shows how fucking awesome Adam Savage is because you know hes trying to pass on everything he can to these kids because hes good people like that
So many people comment that Corridor Digital did this last year. However, there are a few things to note:
1. Corridor had larger holes which were not metal. If they were, even a slight touch of the arrow (yes, the arrow touched the sides) would've resulted in a failure.
2. Odysseus' bow was the strongest bow ever made (according to the myth) and only he could draw it. A weak bow has naturally a greater projectile drop.
3. „Shooting though axe heads“ is a vague term. Some people cut holes into the axe heads, some add rings. But it is very likely that the holes the shafts are attached to are meant here, and shooting through multiple of those is nearly impossible.
I feel like high bow strength would actually make it harder. Less bow drop, but higher strength bow would mean the arrow flexes way more, making it more likely to hit the sides.
i dont think nikos shot would have done it on metal but nicks shot was perfect and would have totally made it
@@aaronyoung9922 if you look at the slowed down footage on the second shot you see that basically the only thing touching the axes is like the back "feathers" for a split second
I always interpreted the contest description as the hole in the head that the helve fits into, not a ring on the axe head nor a hole cut into the head of the axe. That would make it even more of an impossible task in that hole would be through a solid metal head with virtually no play, and the arrow would have to be launched not only precisely but with enough force to ensure that the speed of the arrow keeps it on as straight a course for as long as possible.
With a quick TH-cam search I've found a video of people not only attempting this but successfully doing it.
Something to keep in mind is that a "Bow-Master" would have likely had thousands of hours of practice and peer review under their belt, or to look at it in another way, today many of us drive cars, we drive them in the rain, snow, wind, we drive them in the day and at night and on roads who's condition sometimes begs the question if they deserve to be called roads and on occasions at speeds that are far far over the rated limits of the roads we drive on, and this is a skill today that we are all adept at and some we can truly say are masters of. In say 4 thousand years when all cars have been AI driven for at least a thousand years the thought that a human of thousands of years ago could drive could very well be the topic of some distant spin-off of this show where they discuss how plausible it could be that primitive humans could do such a task while they themselves are dismissive of the tools of today that we have learned to master.
Arrows flex in flight. It is the flexing of the arrow that is causing it to hit the rings. Compound bows shooting modern arrows can have less flex in them. We now have ratings for the amount of flex an arrow has. They probably chose the stiffest arrow available to shoot in that compound bow.
@@BRyeEUC Most likely, and I suspect this is something that would have been known about back then as well, it could well be likely that the rings were set up in such a way that his bow in his hand with his arrows would have been in tune with the path through them.
That is something I could see a bow master doing and talking about with his wife. Keep in mind this is around the time were we had people able to calculate the diameter of the earth with a fair degree of accuracy by using 2 holes in the ground.
Modern driving skills of humans are way better documented than archery from thousand of years ago was at the time.
@@BRyeEUC Arrows flexing in flight was known to the Greeks. They also knew that the stronger the bow you used to more rigid the arrow had to be to avoid it just folding in on itself. Thus Odysseus' Bow being very strong would have been accompanied by stiff arrows made from a stronger piece of wood. Again as you said stiffer arrows have less flex and a straighter flight path.
@@jakistam1000 The funny thing about documentation is that it tends to have a half life. Now for instance if you want an exercise go and download a driver for a voodoo 2 video card, yes you can still source that ten year old driver, but the number of sources out there for it now has dwindled to almost nothing, and most of them are suspect.
Add to that any documentation done today and in yesteryear's will have a bias, look at say for instance instructional videos from the 50's on how to drive, while much of what you see there is applicable there is much that has changed, and the two things to keep in mind is today we have the vantage point to detect those subtle changes, in a thousand years they may well say "a car is a car, and without AI I don't think they could go over 20 kmph" And they may base that on early car speeds and what ever survived on the topic to that age and was then translation mangled for them to read, watch and listen.
Add to that, a huge amount of our driving instruction is still word of mouth, yes I can download a pdf to find the laws on driving in any state/country in the world, but the actual art of driving, by and large that is a skill that is passed on, teacher to student, via word of mouth while in hands on instruction. People as a rule never document those things that "everyone knows"
The challenge wasn't the shot. It was stringing the bow. Only Odysseus knew the proper technique.
Its irritating with all those elf helpers screaming
mukeshinder singh sidhu I assume you are an adult. This really isn’t for adults but for kids
@@AlwaysBolttheBird Even as a kid watching this, I don't like it. It's uncomfortable.
@@timmydirtyrat6015 that's fine not everyone has to like everything but I keep seeing adults comment that they dint like the show. It's not for them
Deipatrous I’m assuming or under 15 or 14
*cries* look at how they massacred my boy.
In the epic, the bow was nigh-impossible to string. Therefore it's a very stiff bow. Thus a very POWERFUL bow for a powerful man. That would make the arc of the arrow launched from it flatter in that range. Then the question on the arrows: how much can they flex before hitting the rings?
Are u Legolas?
@John Smith The stronger the bow the more it should increase the paradox and even going with stiffer arrows will only result in the identical flight as a weaker bow and flimsier arrows. The only way to reduce the paradox would be by stiffer arrows under the same draw weight.
You should have had Olympic gold medalists Mark Nut shoot the arrow
I bet if they had Taylor Jones on he could outrun the arrow
Joseph Nai MARK NUT!
Joseph Nai Mark Nuuuuuuuuuutttt
maregondrako here comes Taylor Jones...
Joseph Nai but the real question is: can a moonball go through those axes
Someone recently made a "repeating longbow" that would consistently knock the arrow in the same way every time and was technically possible to make with the technology of the time, so yes, plausible is a reasonable conclusion.
Not reasonable at all it’s not possible
Most satisfying "one shot wonder" ever. Haven't seen anything go so well on the first try on mythbusters before. Amazing.
Corridor did it, and plus without a machine.
They used flexible axes, they would fail if they were using real metal ones
@@gamezone7518 might take a bit longer but I doubt it
I 100 pecebt like this because they said this was never done before. Not only did corridor do it but niko did it without hitting any of the axes.
@@YourGam3rJ3RRY yeah, the last shot
I like how people are whining about how they used a machine to test the "Impossible" shot which probably never happened in the first place. How dare they. I'm also curious which of the 16 year olds people were expecting to personally do this.
You also have to understand that with a longbow or recurve bow, there is what is known as the “archer’s paradox”. The arrow will bend back and forth considerably between the bow and the target making this shot impossible with the technology during Odysseus’ time.
The look of surprise on his face after the shot was priceless
When the crew from corridor digital did this a few months ago .. with no static rigs. Just pure skill.
This is cringeworthy compared to the original.
This is just as bad as the end of the original series.
Should have invited Niko from Corridor
Can we appreciate how The mythbusters make our day and take alot of time making it?
This is 2019 but these videos still look like they're from early 2000s, I like it
As a Classical scholar, I can tell you not only did Odysseus shoot the arrow from a long bow made from Ram's Horn, he shot it free hand & shot through the hole that the handle shaft went through NOT multiple custom manufactured axe heads. So although this is a mythical shot, your set up was totally incorrect. You have neither proved not busted a myth!
Just gonna say this has been attempted before, the guys at Corridor Digital did a video on it last June, and didn't use a rig or anything
C_Mike yep. Myth busted long ago
They used flexible axes
@@gamezone7518 Nikko's shot didn't hit any of the rings though when you watch the footage so the flexibility doesn't really matter though
@@AnAveragePanini checked rn, it did touch the rings on multiple occasions, just not as hard as the other guy's arrow. Who knows, how it could behave in different conditions.Their result would've been much more solid with metal rings, without any complaints.
Adam's crew invited that old guy, and i have seen him hit a ridiculously small and moving target on a SmarterEveryDay video. He's actually crazy with a bow and even he has failed.
Everything on mythbusters junior isn’t even a myth, they always do easily doable things
Uh huh. Guess where the "junior" part applies to?
Someone from the corridor crew attempted it and succeeded so
They used flexible axes
@@gamezone7518 doesnt matter if you dont hit them as nick did in the video
Those kids did a great job at recreating that mythological shot. I recently found this video that shows it can really be done by a human.
Actually other people did do it. Corridor Crew made this shot
Actually, no they didn't. They cheated in about a dozen different ways, the least of which being the material was foam crap and the apertures they were firing through were massive compared to what they SHOULD be for this challenge. Have you ever even seen the original scene from the movie or read the Odyssey? They didn't even get close.
ive seen 3 other videos of people doing this. But love seeing how you guys did it from an engineering aspect
Engeenering aspect? Did you not go to school?
@@jj987987987 ment engineer's, i am a college graduate in computers. Dont be hating
@@R3Kyt Well i'm a mechanical engineer, and this thing is no where near problem solving. It's like watching elementary students doing chemistry experiments like it's cooking and tell people what they do is science.
Myth Confirmed: Odysseus was real. All hail Poseidon!
Mythbuster's: Saying they needed a compound bow and a robot for this shot to be Plausible
Niko From Corridor Crew With a regular bow and Himself: "Are You Challenging ME?"
Adam is like an enthusiastic dad I LOVE IT
I've seen a YT video a while back ago where a bunch of archers made this shot, there was even a noobie among them that made the shot too.
This had been replicated and was perfectly executed in real life without machinery long before this episode came out.
The guys at corridor digital already did this on their 2nd channel.
The Archer's paradox on a longbow would make this shot far more difficult
That shot was a Golgo 13 level near impossible shot. He was known to hit a terrorist through the windshield of a commercial jet from 2km away with only 1 shot.
yeah but bullets don't wobble in the air like shafts do
@@SavageGreywolf What's this about wobbling shafts?
@@SavageGreywolf
True, that's why even at this super short range this arrow shot was STILL extremely hard.
As for hitting something with a sniper rifle 2km away, the bullet takes a few seconds to even get there. Besides accounting for winds messing with bullet trajectory, he also had to account for punching through the strong airplane windshield glass and still landing the shot in between the terrorist's eyes.
Adam is genuinely too cool man! Like I feel he is actually like this and that enthusiastic IRL!
Corridor has done it without a machine some while ago
See a corridor crew video. They did it. Without a mounted system.
Corridor Crew has done this for real. Specifically Niko
Using a laser beam would have saved a lot of work.
1:05 one little bump “gives two”😂
Corridor Crew Made that first try without the machine.
The problem with this is that Odusseus' bow would've been a long bow style. Long bow arrows are very different from compound bow's in the fact that they are much more flexible in the spine and actually wiggle as they fly. Look up "the archers paradox"
Geez. The myth is about shooting an arrow through a dozen axe handles, not a bunch of empty rings. FAIL
the problem is that Odysseus would've had a recurve bow
It's like a 90's mythbusters comedy spin-off were Adam has adopted a bunch of kids.
First off people have done this with fake bows with the black tips the corridor crew did
I was gonna say that lol
Caden Hooper I was thinking the same thing
Why would you base your profile off of PewDiePie?
because I can idiot
Wow. Not only did they not put the bow into Safety mode, they didn't even aim it away from downrange before going to see the target.
The corridor studio did it by hand with a wooden bow in outside "Legends"!!!
They didn't use metal rings which would have drastically changed the shot, if you watch the corridor video it does bounce of the "axes" if there where metal it wouldn't have worked like that so no they cheaped out also.
The shot in the myth also had people holding the axes, again corridor didn't truly make the shot themselves.
@@zachdillenger5468 you only watched nikos shot then nick didnt hit any of the axes so metal or not it wouldnt have mattered
@@aaronyoung9922 Yes he did, don't lie because you like him.
Corridor was always much closer then, the myth was, they cheaped out
@@zachdillenger5468 went back re watched he taps the middle axe with the arrow flex and the feathers hit the last axe still think it would have been on target metal or not
@@zachdillenger5468 do you have a link to this said video? I would like to see it
This is only amazing if you are not familiar with the performance of modern compound bows and how accurate and consistent a decent archer can shoot them.
I guess they clearly don't watch Corridor Crew.
Longbows have a crazy flex that makes them not fly in a directly straight line, I forget what the effect is called
I know Jamie is done with TV, but couldn’t they have just let Adam, Grant, Kari and Tory all do the show? Bleh
So many people are saying they should have seen Corridor Crew, but these videos came out around the same time.
Wait.. Am I missing something? Where's the Duct Tape?
I’m not a fan of Mythbusters Jr (probably because I’m 39) but I love Adam and the way he is with all that energy with the kids makes me love him more
"How to kill any show" Just add children as hosts.
Myth confirmed.
I saw the one you talked about why ancient people put the tip,that was to make it heavy because of wind,wind affects direction
Just watch corridor crew they already did this
"why would he be a robot?"
Allow me to introduce you to Hephaestus, and his little friend Bubo ...
Corridor digital did this without any fancy rigs 😂
I don't quite understand why they couldn't get the shot. Corridor Digital did this same shot and got it the first try.
Ever Heard Archer's Paradox with traditional bow and not using compound bow ?
What exactly is the archers paradox Google says it is the flexing of the arrow in flight but what i have been told is completely different
@@bluehornet197 Not what a lot of people in this comment section seem to think it is: th-cam.com/video/jOiCxFbFIEM/w-d-xo.html&t=
Welcome back Mythbusters 😭 I missed you
Didn't corridor crew do it in a video?
Corridor crew already did this without a machine. Although I still love it when the Myth Busters do it
The corridor crew did this with no machines and one person did it first try
Holy shit, they actually tested the arrow myth. Last Science Channel MythBusters clip I watched was titled “starting a fire using duct tape” but was about Jamie spear fishing with a stick. Alright Science Channel, I see you.
The Corridor guys did a version of this. No robot.
I am ok with plausible. But I do think at 30 yds which was technically the given distance some odd years ago, lol. It is easily possible for any man or woman with a 30 lbs recurve, long bow, or compound bow. It is not hard to shoot straight, it is hard when you try to shoot accurately or consistently and have that mindset. So in other words this was not a hard shot, but more of a test of time for humans ability to evolve and conquer, more or less. Am still very thankful for mythbusters and all the science planning and engineering behind the scenes. It really is revolutionary for us all. Thanks guys 👍🏻👍🏻
Finding Homeric stories to be based on reality, why would one call this a mythological shot? It was an amazing feat and you proved just how amazing it truly was.
1:00 the arrow in his head XD
wouldve enjoy this show more if there is none of these kids screaming
No one cares. Stop watching a show for kids and then complaining about the kids.
Yeah - who wants kids getting excited about science? Not me!
corridor crew did it first try and they used the "historically" correct bow
Nice well done, just one small thing, it was axe handles...
that's what i was thinking, most people who do this challenge either put it on the blade or between them lol. I don't know why no one ever catches this when they are setting it up
There is a big flaw with the shooting technique. Bows don't shoot straight arrows, instead the arrows wobble when released due to the shear strain caused by the rim of the bow. So, it probably will hit the rings. This is my first mythbusters video and I don't know how much more inaccuracies are actually there.
edit: Instead of wasting time like this, they could build some mathematical approximations to consider if it is possible
There’s a video by the corridor crew from June 2018 where they already did this
Not to mention that traditional long bows were made to achieve much higher poundage than a simple compound bow so much so that archers were trained since they were as young as six to fire them reliably
Lets not forget the deformity of having one arm larger and longer than the other.
I love myth busters but damnit i hate kids. I can't watch this lmao
Then don't watch Mythbusters Jr. and stop crying lmao
Lol we were just reading about the odyssey in my classroom. Coincidence?
Sad seeing Adam's reaction without Jamie, I bet he misses him
Not really. The two weren't friends you know.
2:40 "The only character to ever make this shot was fictitious."
Niko and his brother from Corridor Crew: Are we a joke to you?
the arrow needs time to stabilize in flight, you need to be back farther
So I want to point somethings out, 1: Odysseus had a multi-hundred pound(like over 200lbs) recurve bow, not a longbow, this does change a lot of the factors, due to the fact that an average Welsh(British) Longbow was about 100lbs in weight, and by increasing the power of a bow, increases the amount of speed and force that arrow can produce, and can create a long flat fight path before it started to curve downwards. 2: They are by far not the first people to try to do this challenge(of their age range? Probably) this is actually a very common challenge to attempt throughout history, and it has been done.
The reason why this shot is said to be impossible is because of the weight of the bow, as literally, no one should be able to draw a 200+lb bow and shoot accurately enough to thread an arrow through ringed Axe Heads. But this is by no means impossible
This was done before. Do you guys do no research at all?
Perfect match up with Adam and kids. Need a complimentary show with Jaime and older teens that are snarky but actually know their stuff
This is not correct- by using a modern compound bow, the arrow flexes a lot less because of its higher speed. With a traditional bow this would be impossible, not plausible at all.
Wrong look at corridor crew they did it
Well according historians about the myth the archer was stronger than most people and he made a unique bow designed for only him to use. It may not be compound bow, but it could of been powerful as one from the custom longbow. Thus, it is possible for the individual to do
so, but it is uncommon for that individual to have lot of strength. It's plausible to some to many no you have the right to claim it.
Trevor Allen ok, the mythical bow that Odysseus was able to use from his strength granted to him by Athena would be able to do this.
The flex of the arrow is not based on its speed through the air. It's based on the flexibility of the arrow and the strength of the bow pushing said arrow. A more rigid arrow pushed by a 40 lb recurve will barely flex at all even though it will travel at much lower speeds than a highly flexible arrow pushed by a 100 lb compound bow.
Devin Hernandez yes but if odysseus used that stiff of an arrow with a tradition bow like others of the time period the arrow would not be flexible enough to satisfy the archers paradox and fly “straight” as it were. Either way, I suppose it is important to remember that this is a myth where gods intervene with human action, strength, and decision making, so anything goes.
"Don't forget the only character to ever make that shot, was fictitious."
The Corrider Crew laughing as a baker makes this "Legendary shot"