The Senators walk it off in the 12th to win the 1924 world series, a breakdown
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Where's Joe West??
He was but a twinkle in his grandmother's eye. Joe West's mother was trying to be that twinkle, but of course he has to take everything over.
He wasn't umping that game because he was down the street at dunkin donuts
The bat boy duh
Imagine scratching your head at ball game and no one calls you out for it until nearly a century later.
Underrated comment
It somehow looks like there was a million people at that game.
My first thought was, holy cow that's a lot of people
Coolidge is like "I'm not a huge fan of baseball, but this is a great way to keep an eye on the entire country."
Griffith Stadium was at the time the largest capacity field in the AL. Maybe around 46,000, and more here, because of standing room.
I know, the stands looked like it had a 10,000 fan count in each frame, and the fans are like dots.
what else was there to do in the olden days?
Clearly the whirly bird increases the pitch velocity three fold.
@Kelltron Like rolling back the odometer on a used car
@@wittay hahaha perfect
Walter Johnson (the pitcher for the Senators) threw 134 ft/s which is about 91 mph (I've heard 122 ft/s which is like 88-89 mph but currently Wikipedia says otherwise). He was the fastest pitcher of his time. Of course this is before Bob Feller and him racing his fastball against motorcycles.
@@williamblackfyre4866 well not exactly. 91 mph was tested at home plate. Radar guns today get the speed 50 feet in front of home plate. So really that pitch was more like 95.4. Walter Johnson was also tested with a motorbike just like feller did. Johnson registered 99.7 mph. Johnson was probably the first guy to touch home plate
@@tjjanosko133 You made jomboy look bad for saying they could not have been throwing the ba that hard back then lol
My grandpa (7 years old at the time) was at Game 1, when the Big Train threw a 12 inning complete game, but the Nats lost. Apparently at Griffith Stadium back then kids could get in for half price (about $1.25 according to my grandpa) with a paying adult. So my grandpa and his brother found some adults and offered to wait in line for them for food and cigars if they let them go in with them.
He didn't go to Game 7 (one of his biggest regrets) but did go to games in the 1925 and 1933 World Series (Nats lost both of those). The rest of his life he dreamed to see another World Series... then the Senators were unjustly moved to Minnesota in 1961 and Texas in 1971. He thought he'd never see his dream come true. He died midway through last season at age 102, just a few months shy of seeing the first World Series won in this city since this video. But the happiest I ever saw him was when baseball returned to Washington in 2005. 34 years without a team here, he never gave up, never picked another team.
Not to mention from 1934 to 1971 (when the Senators left town for good) they were so bad that they literally had more 100 loss seasons than winning seasons.
The first game we went to together in 2005, when he saw baseball back in his city, with MLB players wearing "DC" on their jerseys, was the first time I ever saw him cry. The only other time was in 2012, when the Nats clinched the first playoff appearance in DC in 79 years.
I went to his grave today (Father's Day) and left a WS rally towel. From the excitement of 1924 to winning it all in 2019... this one's for you Grandpa.
Here's to you gramps
It's weird when you're referring them as "Nats".
@@iamhungey12345 I mean... they were the Nats tho. That's what the current iteration of the Nationals are named after.
Look at these headlines from the 1920s and 1930s, "Cronin Eludes Mob of Women in Chase After Nats Clinch Pennant" and "Nationals Win Capital's First Pennant, World Series to Open Here Saturday." They've been called the Nats since the early 1900s, all the way through when they left for Texas in 1971, to the new Nats coming in 2005.
www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2012/10/01/images-from-past-nats-pennant-winners/?arc404=true
@@SFTaYZa Thanks man, I'm always happy to share his stories... as a rabid sports fan who lived to be over 100 he had a lot of them. He was also at the 1937 NFL Championship game (actually working there selling food and beer, not as a fan) and saw Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and other AL greats play numerous times, as well as Jackie Robinson (who didn't even debut until Gramps was 30), Maurice Richard, and tons of other sports legends.
@@alltheDCteams Still it sounded pretty weird since they can easily get confused with the certain team that used to be from Montreal.
The guys who made suits and hats are making a killing back in the day, at least 50,000 sales in that stadium alone
Culture and Geography Man As a bald guy I totally support bringing back hats as a necessary fashion accessory
@@pauldzim I mean....there's nothing stopping you from wearing a hat now...
@@LuckySmurf Yeah, except then everyone knows I'm the bald guy. If everyone wears one, I'm just being fashionable
@@pauldzim I regularly wear a flat cap and I'm not bald or balding.
In that era, everybody from the lowest laborer to the President wore a hat outdoors. It was just part of being properly dressed. Going hatless would be like going shirtless today.
Man the things I would give to be able to experience a 1920's ballgame
What a shame they tore down Griffith Stadium.
Would you be willing to donate 1200$? And wear a blindfold till we got there? Think Yankees game ;)
You mean experience real men playing ball?
I would have loved to see Babe Ruth play.
This is game 7.
Walter Johnson on 1 day rest pitched came in relief and pitched them out of the jam you see after the triple in the 9th and held them 10th 11th and 12th.
He was able to scratch himself to first on an error leading to the final hit. He was on first as the winning run was scored.
Legendary stuff!
The guy jumping at the end was no other than Walter "Jumpy" Masterson who was known for hitting the ball, taking three step stride, and making it to 1st on a single leap.
Hats off to New Jersey native and eventual Hall if Famer Leon “Goose” Gosling who hit three home runs,drove in seven runs and hit .344 in this Series. He also collected six straight hits for a Series record he held for 66 years.
Sweet fact thanks for sharing mang.
What and epic series! On a more serious note, so cool that Walter Johnson, one of the all time great pitchers and great people in the game, and a longtime member of a Senators team that had been a basement dweller for much of his career, FINALLY got to win a world championship at the age of 36.
I can't say for sure what he looked like or said to himself in that moment, but I'm sure it's akin to Ryan Zimmerman raising his hands above his head saying "Oh my god. Holy shit"
Why did he say they couldn't have been pitching fast when Walter Johnson is out there?
@@williamblackfyre4866 People tends to underestimate players from back in the days.
@@iamhungey12345 that always bothers me...especially when people minimize the achievements of the past..even more especially when they talk about Wilt Chamberlain, who was probably the greatest athlete of all time
@@williamblackfyre4866 Johnson was clocked on a radar gun in the upper 90's by a police officer. How accurate that was, I don't know. But he was famous for how hard he threw, as much as anything. There's generally just a disrespect or, at the least, an under-appreciation of players of the past.
The man doing this video apparently only gave these clips time of day because there was no baseball season at the time and he was trying to keep making profit on his channel. I've watched a couple of his "look back" videos and he's generally condescending about the players and game back then, with a real lack of understanding. He doesn't even understand the real, critical reasons why the catcher stood tall back then.
Gold medal at the Olympics with that jump - guy was on turbo boost
Must have been on greenies see! ( I don't know how to type old timey voice)
I couldn’t stop laughing lmao
The last time DC would see a World Series title until the Nats won it all last year - a span of 95 years.
Yeah, the crowd did right to storm the field when they could.
Not to mention different team as well.
Was about to rant about saying they went on to be the twins but then realised what you said. Yeah that’s incredible they had to wait so long
That ball boy probably got thrown at next pitch.
He probably died at Bastogne or Iwo Jima. He was the right age for it.
@@nickhanlon9331 dark. Love it
No, these are men, if they didnt like what a player did they talked it out, no throwing bats or screaming or anything of that sort. Baseball has fallen so far.
Yea I’ll take a side of the Benny Hill music with that hilarious base running.
"Yakety Sax" I totally agree.
😄👍
The home run was hit by Hall of Fame manager Bucky Harris. It's the only home run hit that game.
The Giants were so incredulous about the game-tying single at 1:27 likely because it was a ground ball that bounced over the head of third baseman Freddie Lindstrom.
The popup actually came in the ninth inning. Lindstrom popped up before Frank Frisch tripled with one out.
It's a damned shame the footage of the walk-off single wasn't any clearer because then we could have seen that the ball bounced over Lindstrom's head for the second time in the game.
Good times!
Harris of course was player-manager of that Senators team, and later won a World Series with the Yankees in 1947. On the winning hit, Johnson was actually the runner on first base who takes off at about the 2:02 mark. He had reached on an error.
I think it’s really valuable to see a major leaguer from the 20s jump like that to show that even though the game was different and the athleticism was different, these weren’t pushovers out there. These were professional athletes and if a random didn’t make the majors baseball player from today were put into the league back then, they’d be up against very serious competition and most of us would look REALLY bad. Because we are really bad.
Human physiology really hasnt changed that much in terms of like your average physical abilities for a pro athlete the real difference maker is the fact that we now know so much fucking more about maintaining and building up the body to exceed our normal limits without causing injury.
I’ll give you all that but you’re never gonna convince me that running with your arms at your sides like they did was anything BUT funny AF 😂
That blur of excitement was the best part lol
The third baseman who caught the pop-up at 1:42 is Ossie Bluege.
He also scouted Harmon Killebrew in 1954, which is huge.
It is actually utility infielder Ralph Miller you see here, playing 3B. Bluege played SS that game because regular SS Roger Peckinpaugh was injured.
There is a play-by-play account of this game on Retrosheet. To give you a quick summary, though, Washington took a 1-0 lead on Bucky Harris' solo home run in the bottom of the third inning. New York scored three runs in the top of the sixth courtesy of two hits and two Washington errors. Washington tied the game 3-3 with two out in the bottom of the eighth inning when Bucky Harris drove in two runs on a bases-loaded single. Walter Johnson came in as a relief pitcher in the top of the ninth inning. In the ninth inning the film clip shows Freddie Lindstrom popping up to third base followed by a triple from Frankie Frisch. He was stranded at third base. The Giants also got hits in the 10th and 12th innings but failed to score. The Giants scored the winning run in the bottom of the 12 on two doubles. Washington's Muddy Ruel is shown scoring the Series-winning run. One other thing: The pitcher with the quirky windup was New York starter Virgil Barnes. He pitched 7-2/3 innings of Game #7.
Accidentally clicked on the notification, I don’t regret that
Fast forward to present day and DC's baseball team are the [defending] champions again.
Not a Nats fan, but I think the timing of this is kind of cool.
I would have hated facing Walter Johnson as a righty. Would have been so tough to pick up the ball from that arm slot.
Doesnt help that the guy probably threw high 90s too
TJ Janosko pitch repertory too: fastball, curve, slider (he called it a “nickel curve”). Oof.
@@OuijTube yeah. The guy got tested at 99.7 in 1914 ans 95 in 1917 in STREET CLOTHES. Thats crazy fast
TJ Janosko it’s amazing isn’t it? I would wager that there were only a handful of pitchers that tossed 90s during that era. Bob Feller reportedly beat a motorcycle cop which estimated his throw over 100 mph. I would bet there are the same amount of pitchers that throw top speed in low 90s nowadays as there were pitchers pre WW2 who threw mid-upper 90s. But the fact that anyone could do it over 100 years ago baffles my mind. Just goes to show human evolution has probably peaked in terms of pitch speed.
@@konniemac316 Amos Rusie is said to have been the first man to throw 90. And that was in 1890. I don't know if many were throwing above 100 becauese even today threre isn't many but if there was a guy it would be walter johnson. As i said before he got tested at 99.7 once in 1914 so he probably averaged a 96 or so mph fastball and possibly topped out at 100. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the first guy to do it
I believe the pitcher is Walter Johnson and he threw high 90s
I think Walter Johnson never threw faster than 88.
with that arm action I find it hard to believe he broke 90.
I think some of these guys back then threw as hard as some of today's pitchers. There are numerous records of MLB players throwing a Baseball over 400 ft at the turn of the century. That translates to 95+ mph
@@ousamaabdu794They could throw! Just remember, its better for the ball to be a breaking ball, its harder to hit, thats why it doesnt look like they are throwing so hard.
I remember reading the player scoring the winning run was a very slow runner and it seemed like an eternity for him to reach home plate.
have you seen the high def footage with sound of the babe & lou gehrig taking batting practice?
Can't imagine how insane that crowd must have been with the winning hit
Dude, please oh please give us more of these.... you are so fucking funny!
Man, I’m in bed right now with the flu and these old baseball videos are really lifting my spirits.
My great uncle played for the Senators this year…. Mule Shirley
No social distancing in the outfield seats. They're packed in like a can of sardines!
the freeze frame shot of the bat boy with his hand up should be a t shirt that would look sick
Imagine being Julio Franco and winning a World Series in your rookie year on a walkoff in the 12th.
Is this the one that ended with the ball skipping off a pebble away from the infielder allowing the winning run to score?
Oddly, that infielders name was Buck Billner
@@pavanatanaya Funny how his name actually works better backwards (Bill Buckner) than it does as it is
Bring the whirlybird windup back!
Pat Rector you need to watch some Ross Ohlendorf highlights
Bring those old gloves and mitts back, they would make todays players better.
"Nineteen twenty four... good times!"
Hey Jomboy, I got one word for ya, just one word - "PROHIBITION".
Ok... maybe also "speakeasies". So two words, then.
And "flappers", did I mention "flappers"? They were the cat's pajamas. The bees' knees.
Now look whatcha did! I’ve got a hankering for a steak and cigarette sandwich because of you! Why I oughta!!
I love old baseball
LOVE the super old school break down! More of these please! Also, audience reactions, commentary always kills me! Keep it up, yo!
That last bit....."1924.....Good times" lmao, thank you for that!
You forgot to talk about how Bartolo Colon started this game for the Senators.
I think if someone had to name all 45 (really 44) U.S. presidents Calvin Coolidge would be that last one they have trouble remembering. Like the Padres of presidents.
How dare you! People would remember him based on alliteration and “cool” being in his name, not to mention the “Calvin and Hobbes” slant. If anyone was the Padres of presidents it’d be Zachary Taylor, Chester A. Arthur as a backup. My team is terrible 🙃
The roaring 20s were a hoot
You got Babe Ruth and Jack Dempsey, what more could you want.
You hit the nail on the head, there is absolutely nothing more satisfying than watching a player round the bases. Watching a triple is like magic, unless it's Prince Fielder or Benji Molina, then it's like watching an overloaded pickup at top speed with a wobbly wheel.
Damn look how many people are there, that’s crazy
So human excitement hasn’t changed in 100 years lol
The guy who hit the triple was hall of famer Frankie Frisch! Like so others can see
I adore these old videos
Love these old breakdown!
We need more of these.
Walter Johnson was one of the hardest throwers ever.
Better than Nolan Ryan, Johnson fineshed more games, so had more stress on his arm after each game. Johnsons record is more impresive.
Can you breakdown some Wilie Mays video clips?
Man if time travel existed that would be ony list of things to do, go see an old ball game
Muddy Ruel scored the winning run from second base. Ruel was allegedly the slowest man in baseball in 1924, so it was nerve-wracking for Washington fans to see him try to score from second base on that play (a hit by Earl McNeely).
This was the Senators' first and only World Championship.
Although they would go on to return to back-to-back WS in 2010, 11.
The Senators became the twins and the twins won in 87 and 91.
@@MikeOzmun thats the second stint senators that became the rangers. The first senators became the twins.
No, no, no. You can't say the Senators won in 1987, 1991, 2010, 2011, or 2019. The Senators were around as the Senators for sixty-plus years and had just this one ring, which makes the video of their celebration here more special. It's a singular moment in baseball for the ultimate Cinderella franchise.
@@MikeOzmun Wrong Senators.
And then they got their paycheck of one hot dog
The catcher was in a high crouch because he wanted the pitch up. Remember back then umps called the high strike so it wasn't unusual to see a catcher almost standing up. If they wanted the pitch down then they would crouch. Had nothing to do with velocity. There were pitchers even back then that could throw in the 90's with Walter Johnson being close to 100.
Also, if you were using those old mitts you'd want room in your stance to get that throwing hand neer that mitt, couldnt use 1 hand to catch with those mitts.
That stand up tripple tho...
That speed.
Yep, throwing not quite as hard as the guys today, but Walter Johnson, pitching sidearm, is estimated to have been throwing at least 91 - 92mph, and some estimate higher that that.
But... that ball was not replaced every 2 or 3 pitches like modern baseball. It was stained with tobacco juice, spit, dirt and whatever else the pitcher could smear onto it. On top of that it was often slightly egg-shaped from the constant hitting and mistreatment. These factors made the ball much harder to see and a lot more random movement in flight. I doubt modern players would be able to hit these constant junk-balls real well without adjusting their technique first.
The "Whirly-bird" windup you ridicule is also important to (some) pitchers of that era. Pitching 300+ innings per year, and sometimes starting on back-to-back days meant a lot of tired and stressed arms. The whirly-bird method helped to keep pitchers loose and limber since there were not multiple relievers waiting to come into the game to bail them out.
The standing catcher technique too is for a real reason... ever try catching with a pre-WWII catchers mitt? I have, and it's damn-near impossible unless the mitt is held right in front of your chest. Why? Catchers mitts of that era had no hinge, meaning they could not really be squeezed closed real well. Instead it was more like stopping the baseball with a handheld-pillow. In order to ensure the ball landed squarely in the middle you have to align yourself dead-on to the approaching ball. Reaching means the ball does not hit the mitt square and risks bouncing off in a different direction. Keep in mind too, that ball being thrown is brown-stained and difficult to see, so squaring up to it is a vital skill for a catcher of that era. Catchers of the modern era have to deal with 5-10 mph additional speed, but at least they get a pristinely-white baseball to see and at least that baseball flies in a consistent manner!
Not exactly. Walter Johnson was tested at 99.7 in 1914. That 91 mph you referenced was the speed at home plate. Not 50 feet ahead of it like todays radar guns. So really it was 95. He probably averaged 96 or 97. When the league average was 84-88
They banned any kind of pitching cheating in 1920. They had umps check the ball more in 1921. And im sure the players didnt mind the ball being mess up a bit, they got more walks that way anyway.
I don’t think I see the area behind the pitcher in the outfield being “blacked out”...that seems like that would be hard to pick up the pitch
Old baseball is so adorable
This is the first time I’ve watched my team’s first franchise World Series championship on film! Such a diehard Twins fan that I wish those games were fully recorded for us to watch. Would kill to hear 1920s baseball commentary!
I was there. Left early though. Always regretted it.
That ball boy wanted to give a high five. It's hard to believe that it took so many years to acquire that custom.
You should do Chris Chambliss's walk off in 1976!
His AL pennant winning walk off came in 1976.
Oops good catch
Walter Johnson was maybe the GOAT but he played for the Senators so this was his only World Series. He was considered a giant on the mound at 6'1 and 200 lbs. People were smaller then but scrappy.
1920 minnesota twins
Bruh that man jumped a mile goddamn
Leauge Average.
Oh shiiiit! D.C. BASEBALL TIME!
Walter Johnson was expected to retire a year before, but he continued on and won the MVP this year in 1924 and his first WS
Everybody ran with their arms to their sides!!! 🤷♂️ 🤣
Because if they lifted there arms they would start flying like an airplane!
You can easily catch a chapman slider like that. It might be easier to stand up and catch that. According to baseball historians the average fastball in 1920 was 86-89. Compared to 91-93 today. So its not all that far off
Walter Johnson also was really the first guy to throw fast for the entire game. He probably averaged 96.5 and topped out at 99
you definitely could not easily catch a chapman slider like that. having to turn your glove and move lower while it comes at you at 90 mph and breaks drastically aint happening
According to baseball historians... If they're catching the ball like that we all know that the pitchers were throwing mid 60s to high 70s, people just like to glorify the past...
@@JomboyMedia youre standing up...... Chapman who is a lefty has a slider that breaks outside to a lefty batter. All the catchwe has to do is put his glove forehand diagonally to the left. You might have to bend down a bit at most
@@arthurbrunnenkant6444 I've spoken to many of historians😐 they all have said the same thing. The range of a fastball was 86-89 with 40% of the league breaking 90 on average and 10% of the league at 95. They do this for a job. They would know. I think you got a case of the recency bias my friens
Jomboy can you break down Pedro Guerrero firing the bat at David Cone in 1988?
Noooo im pretty sure that batboy was like “YAAAA!!! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!”
All the base runners nicknames were “Crazy Legs”.
It does look funny! They move so fast because they are men and wont scream after hitting a home run, they wont clap after a base hit, they wont show up the other team, they are men.
god damn this could be your best video
Give them a little 23 skidoo
You watch this and wonder how the hell this caught on.....
Well, with everyones minds still on WW1, you'd want a break to have some laughfter and joy.
Didn’t know they broadcasted games back then lmao
Radio. Or just go to the game, if you were rich back then.
“Good job, mister! Good job, mister!”
That actually looked like a fun game!
It sure was, for most of us.
No comment about Silent Cal?
Idk know if you’ve done this one yet but can you do Delmon young’s go ahead double in the 2014 ALDS it all we have as an orioles fan now
They stood bc of the # of bunts. Its easier than modern day catchers kneeling. I think the kneeling looks even worse.
It does look worse. Its also easyer to throw out runners trying to steal. Also with those old mitts witch you'd need to use both your hands to catch with would give you more time to get a better throw to the bag.
Just think, the first radio broadcast of an MLB game came just 3 years before this World Series!
Is the title right?
Who is the Jason Giambi teammate on this team?
Larry Hilbert watching this video:
“Wait Billy told me Lindstrom hit a game winning double after this, where’s his double???”
Coolidge looked stoked.
Or stroked...
It’s funny I don’t even watch baseball but I love your vids
Old school!
damn, they were fast back then
Alot faster than people seem to think.
Angel Hernandez probably found a way to make a few bad calls in this game too.
Why is Paul O’Neill at this game 1:22
Edgar Martinez pinched hit and got a hit off Bartolo Colon in this game.
Satchel Paige used the windmill windup. He threw aspirin tablets. That windup didn't disappear until the mid 50s.
Obviously there was no TV in 1924, so I presume this film was shown in theaters.
Most likely. And now we get to watch video of those films.
Nelson Cruz went 2-4 with a HR in this game.
greatest game 7 of a world series of all time
96yrs ago crazy
2:16 this dude be jumping higher than gas prices dawg 😫